IRC log for ##guleague on 20121210

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17:52.34bzbotNew news from gumatches: Dec 10 17:46 => Apocalypse:3, The Resistance:2
18:32.40bzbotNew news from gumatches: Dec 10 18:29 => Apocalypse:8, The Resistance:0
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18:37.53Snake12534Hi all
18:41.05blast007hi
18:41.07*** part/##guleague blast007 (~blast007@bzflag/developer/Blast)
18:42.09allejolmao
18:42.41Snake12534Hey
18:43.10Snake12534I feel sick
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18:43.55Snake12534Hey blast
18:44.46blast007hi
18:44.48*** part/##guleague blast007 (~blast007@bzflag/developer/Blast)
18:45.09allejorofl
18:45.17Snake12534Why do you keep leaving?
18:45.39allejoWe keep asking you the same thing but you never stick around for longer than a minute
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18:46.22Snake12534I am quite busy
18:47.02Snake12534I hope my two mates online will official a team.
18:47.26blast007'Official' is not a verb.
18:48.04Snake12534In GU, everyone uses it as a verb.
18:48.13Snake12534Like, lets offi
18:48.23Snake12534Or did you offi them?
18:49.26allejoGU league does not influence Webster Dictionary in the slightest. 'Official' is not a verb nor is 'offi' a word
18:49.55Snake12534Yeah, gu players do this.
18:50.20Snake12534What do you expect? :) They offi everyday
18:50.33Snake12534No one wants to spell it out fully.
18:52.15allejoLaziness does not lead to a new word being created. Poor grammar is cancer
18:52.32Snake12534Agreed. But sometims
18:52.38Snake12534Sometimes*
18:52.39allejohttp://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/24486500.jpg
18:52.48Snake12534In life, you have to go with the flow.
18:53.12Snake12534Spiderman gives you cancer?
18:53.27blast007Offi with their heads!!
18:53.29allejoI beg to differ. If blast007 suddenly decided to start Windows 8 and ported BZFlag to Windows and that was the "flow," I would not go with it.
18:53.45allejostart using*
18:53.49Snake12534I repeat sometimes.
18:54.01Snake12534S O M E times :)
18:54.15blast007If I decided to start using Windows 8, I'd probably be too busy slamming my fist through the screen to bother with BZFlag.
18:54.32Snake12534Do not use Windows 8
18:54.36blast007"Touch screen?  I thought it said *punch* screen!"
18:54.48Snake12534:)
18:55.00allejohehe
18:55.01Snake12534I am using a touch screen currently to type, chat.
18:55.39blast007Snake12534: why?
18:55.42blast007tablet?
18:55.50Snake12534Yeah, iPad.
18:55.58allejoblast007, the new trend of posts for porting BZFlag should be the Surface instead of iPhone or Android
18:56.08blast007My condolences...
18:56.14allejolol
18:56.21Snake12534Bzflag on tablets are not a good idea.
18:56.25Snake12534UNLESS
18:56.33allejois*
18:56.37blast007there is no "unless"
18:56.41Snake12534You have a REAL keyboard and a mouse
18:56.42blast007it's not a good idea
18:56.57Snake12534Well, it would save people lots of time and perhaps cash.
18:57.04blast007no it wouldn't
18:57.10blast007are you stupid? :P
18:57.27Snake12534More convient. And no, I am not a-stewpid.
18:57.34blast007decent tablets are not that much less than a full featured PC.
18:57.38allejo"a-stewpid"?
18:57.39blast007How much did your iPad cost?
18:58.04Snake12534On eBay, around ... oh yeah, good point.
18:58.22allejoblast007, in retort, at least the iPad doesn't advertise twice the available space ;)
18:58.35Snake12534*a stewpid* means asian accent, stupid.
18:58.38allejohttp://sourcefednews.com/microsoft-being-sued-over-surface-storage/
18:58.39bzbotTitle: Microsoft Being Sued Over Surface Storage - SourceFed (at sourcefednews.com)
18:59.04allejoThat is a racist comment and should not be tolerated.
18:59.14blast007the iPad 2 is $400.  The iPad with the fancy screen is $500.  I built a complete PC with a 3.3GHz dual-core hyperthreaded processor, 16GB of RAM, and a 64GB SSD for roughly $500 (not counting the screen)
18:59.44blast007my PC would run laps around an iPad any day of the week
18:59.57Snake12534Ok ok
19:00.08blast007heck, my PC even supports up to three screens at once :)
19:00.21Snake12534:) I wish I could do that.
19:00.24allejoblast007 but is your computer mobile?
19:00.37blast007allejo: mobile enough to throw at your head
19:00.40blast007:P
19:00.49Snake12534Tsk tsk, Windows are really close to bankrupt.
19:00.51allejohehe
19:01.13blast007wut
19:01.25blast007if by "close" you mean "not"
19:01.30blast007then sure
19:02.04allejois*
19:02.04Snake12534They are.
19:02.16blast007[citation needed]
19:02.18allejoWindows is not a company, it's an Operating System
19:02.27Snake12534Apple is going to bankrupt Windows badly.
19:02.30allejooh look at blast. getting all wikipedia on us
19:02.45Snake12534Wikipedia is fraud!
19:03.17Snake12534I know allejo, for Microsoft.
19:03.22Snake12534Winfoe
19:03.29Snake12534Oops
19:03.51Snake12534Well both ways, bye bye Microsoft soon.
19:04.18blast007http://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ:MSFT&fstype=ii
19:04.19bzbotTitle: Financial Statements for Microsoft Corporation - Google Finance (at www.google.com)
19:04.20allejoHighly doubtful. Microsoft is still stable financially even if they are losing market shares of the PC industry
19:05.00blast007they only had $16.97 billion in net income so far this year.  yeah, definitely bankrupt.
19:05.16Snake12534Well. They *will* be bankrupt.
19:05.22blast007no, they won't
19:05.40allejoBeing an Apple fan myself, I can see Apple going bankrupt before Microsoft
19:05.41Snake12534Their sales gone down close to 75% since 2000.
19:05.52blast007Snake12534: citation needed
19:06.42Snake12534Who wants to see Reptiles blog?
19:06.46blast007nobody does
19:07.00Snake12534We have 3 staff members already.
19:07.12blast007no you don't
19:07.16allejoblast007: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Windows-8-Devices-Microsoft-Sales,19430.html People clearly love Windows 8
19:07.17bzbotTitle: Windows PC Sales Down 21% Since Windows 8 Launch (at www.tomshardware.com)
19:07.22blast007you have three people writing on a blog
19:07.30Snake12534Alezakos, Unclelightning, and me.
19:07.31blast007with fake titles
19:07.39Snake12534We call them staff :)
19:08.05Snake12534Lol blast, it's just a title to desribe their significance to the blog.
19:08.10blast007your organization is bankrupt
19:08.21allejolmao
19:08.22Snake12534We just started, my good sir.
19:08.29Snake12534We hit c
19:08.38Snake12534Close to 100 views a day
19:08.44blast007you will be bankrupt
19:08.49Snake12534:)
19:08.56Snake12534Proof?
19:09.05blast007refers to Apple
19:09.08blast007see?
19:09.09blast007proof
19:09.23blast007undeniable proof
19:09.34Snake12534Shall I wiki you?
19:09.36blast007Undeniable, I say!
19:09.37Snake12534:)
19:09.48blast007wiki is not a verb
19:09.50Snake12534Let me find a site.
19:10.10allejoI fail to see the correlation between page views and bankruptcy
19:11.23blast007hi
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19:12.17Snake12534i
19:12.24blast007j
19:12.34Snake12534I could not find anything.
19:13.06allejok
19:13.35Snake12534Can someone go on bzflag and tell hawkeye to match with alezakos
19:13.50blast007yes, someone can.
19:13.51allejoNo.
19:13.58blast007But will they?
19:14.03Snake12534No
19:14.20Snake12534May*
19:14.30blast007oh, and here's the thing with apple vs microsoft
19:14.38Snake12534Yes?
19:14.51blast007microsoft has a pretty consistent revenue, whereas apple is increasing rapidly
19:14.58blast007but apple is going to hit a peak soon and drop off
19:15.06allejosadly enough :-/
19:15.21blast007so microsoft has more stability
19:15.25Snake12534I doubt so.
19:15.44blast007Snake12534: that's because you're an apple zealot
19:16.15Snake12534Blast, I use microsoft.
19:16.36blast007microsoft what?
19:16.45Snake12534<PROTECTED>
19:16.52blast007congrats
19:17.28blast007that doesn't necessarily exclude you from being an apple zealot, though :)
19:17.38Snake12534True.
19:17.59Snake12534I support Apple because of their iPads, minis, and iPhones.
19:18.07Snake12534Otherwise Windows is better.
19:18.16blast007I insult apple because of every product they make.
19:18.26Snake12534Why?
19:18.27allejoAnd I retort with Windows 8
19:18.46Snake12534I don't use 8.
19:18.51blast007allejo: and I pray for 9 :P
19:19.10blast007or else I'll be switching this school district to Linux
19:19.15allejoWindows Blue*
19:19.23blast007blehhhhh
19:19.26Snake12534Ew Linux.
19:19.33allejoLinux ftw
19:19.34blast007Snake12534: better than Windows 8 :P
19:19.51Snake12534True:)
19:21.58blast007Snake12534: my problem with apple is that they constantly screw over their customers, and they put excessive restrictions on their products.
19:22.06blast007"Do it our way or else!"
19:22.10blast007"You're holding it wrong!"
19:22.14Snake12534...
19:22.29Snake12534I never thought of ta.
19:22.32Snake12534Tat.
19:22.48blast007for instance, the people who bought PowerPC systems.  They cannot run anything newer than Mac OSX 10.5.
19:23.00Snake12534Why?
19:23.20blast007because apple stopped supported PowerPC systems.  They wanted everyone buy new Intel systems.
19:23.34Snake12534Oh, sucky.
19:23.43blast007and 10.5 does not get security updates anymore
19:23.51Snake12534That sucks.
19:23.56blast007so anyone on PPC is vulnerable to exploits on the internet
19:24.07Snake12534ohok.
19:24.15Snake12534How about Macafee?
19:24.24Snake12534Cant they download that?
19:24.35allejoMcAfee is a murder
19:24.39blast007other things no longer support PPC Macs either
19:24.39allejomurderer*
19:24.49Snake12534Whyall
19:24.54blast007like, for instance, you can't installed the newest Flash player on PPC OSX
19:24.58Snake12534Why allejo*
19:25.05blast007Snake12534: read the news :P
19:25.11Snake12534<PROTECTED>
19:25.24Snake12534I do, every so often.
19:25.28allejoSnake12534 http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/04/15683685-software-guru-john-mcafee-suspected-of-murder-seeks-asylum-in-guatemala?lite
19:25.29bzbotTitle: Software guru John McAfee, suspected of murder, seeks asylum in Guatemala - World News (at worldnews.nbcnews.com)
19:25.29blast007Then there is their developer program and app store stuff and 10.8.
19:25.54blast007In order to have software on 10.8 that doesn't pop up a scary warning, you have to digitally sign your software with a certificate from Apple.
19:26.20blast007But to do that you need to be using a relatively recent version of OSX, and you have to have a developer account, which costs $100/year
19:26.31blast007lol, I think he went to that link in the same tab
19:26.38allejololol
19:26.40blast007or closed the whole window or something
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19:27.28blast007in summary of my rant.. the only reason apple is doing so well at the moment is that they control all aspects of their software and hardware
19:27.29Snake12534Macafee is a murderer!
19:27.37allejoMcAfee*
19:27.47blast007and I think people will get sick of that soon and start to bail on the platform
19:28.00Snake12534Also because apple has so much innovations, causing people to buy their products.
19:28.07blast007that, and I think we'll soon see a game changer in the console market
19:28.16Snake12534Perhaps
19:28.18blast007the Ouya box is coming in March, and the Steam box is coming soon
19:28.35blast007the Ouya being an android system for your TV with wireless controllers
19:28.36Snake12534I am not buying neither of those.
19:28.38allejoblast007 you can't forgot about the Wii U
19:28.46allejoforget*
19:28.49blast007and the Steam box being a locked down PC that runs linux
19:29.00Snake12534Nah
19:29.13blast007allejo: yes, I can.
19:29.17blast007*poof* forgotten
19:29.27blast007the last console I bought was the PS2
19:29.29allejolinux is the way to go for any device that needs an OS
19:29.33allejolol
19:29.44blast007And I still use that thing.  It's awesome.
19:30.08blast007I've got it softmodded as well, so I can do stuff like play video files off a USB hard drive.
19:30.09allejoI have a 360 and I still use it. That's one of the few good things Microsoft makes
19:30.20Snake12534Lol same here blast.
19:30.27Snake12534I use PS2
19:30.37blast007do you have the Slim PS2?
19:30.43Snake12534No
19:30.48blast007good
19:30.52Snake12534The fat one?
19:31.02blast007yeah, I have two of the larger ones
19:31.08blast007though one doesn't turn on anymore
19:31.08Snake12534<PROTECTED>
19:31.19Snake12534Oh, sell on eBay then.
19:31.22blast007I have the Linux kit for my PS2, but the hard drive it came with died.
19:31.40Snake12534I do not ever use Linux.
19:32.09blast007so I have a keyboard/mouse for the PS2, and a different model fo the network adapter specifically for linux, and the VGA adapter
19:32.14allejoLinux is the way to go Snake12534
19:32.17blast007this was a kit sold by sony for the PS2
19:32.33blast007sold out years ago, but I found it on ebay
19:32.43Snake12534Interesting.
19:32.51Snake12534Perhaps I will use Linux allejo.
19:33.03Snake12534I still have the PS1
19:33.08blast007put linux on your iPad.  Oh wait!
19:33.18Snake12534Planning to sell that one on eBay.
19:33.34Snake12534Wait? Why?
19:35.28blast007if I get a hard drive back into the PS2, I can run games off the hard drive instead of needing the disc
19:36.06Snake12534I just buy the games in the disc.
19:36.13blast007I do as well
19:36.22blast007but I can prolong the life of the optical drive this way
19:36.54blast007same for playing DVDs.  I rip the DVDs on my computer and convert them to a file that I can play off a hard drive.
19:36.59Snake12534The life of my games neverbdie.
19:37.15Snake12534Never die*
19:38.47Snake12534Brb, hungry.
19:39.38allejoblast007 too bad I need to flash my Xbox to play games off my hard drive, it'd be nicer that way
19:40.01Snake12534Anyone wanna be part of Reptiles?
19:40.06blast007allejo: I have a hacked memory card
19:40.28allejohacked memory card?
19:40.50blast007used a cheat disc (well, specifically an emulator on that disc) to run a program that then exploited something to write new code to the memory card
19:41.08blast007thus why it's a "softmod"
19:41.12Snake12534I am going to update the blog now.
19:41.13blast007no soldering involved
19:41.25allejohmmm interesting
19:41.28blast007so when the console boots up, it loads code off the memory card
19:41.43allejoah so you need the memory card at boot?
19:42.15blast007yup
19:43.50allejoi may take another look at this stuff for my xbox. i kinda got iffy of the thought of soldering and the risk of a brick
19:44.04blast007that the 360?
19:44.14blast007for the old one there was simple clip-on hardware hacks
19:44.39blast007(though probably less reliable than soldered ones)
19:45.02blast007I dunno if there are any software mods for the Xbox
19:45.20blast007also, there's some things I still can't do without a hardware mod (such as playing backup discs)
19:45.43blast007though backup discs are possible with this one swap magic disc
19:45.59allejoyea 360
19:46.36allejoi think the only reason i wanted to flash my xbox in the first place was to torrent games and get copies from friends
19:47.07blast007I'd not do it on one tied to your XBL account
19:47.27blast007keep modding consoles unassociated with your non-modded stuff
19:49.07allejoyea i'm aware of the ban waves
19:49.48allejoto be frank, i rarely play any new games on it so i won't go through the effort
19:50.00allejoi mainly use it watch dvds
19:50.20allejoor to wireless stream movies from my hard drive to my xbox to watch on my tv
19:52.15blast007you should still buy the games you intend to play on it
19:52.59blast007and don't same game discs have unique IDs in them?
19:53.11blast007if so, and you copy from a friend, you might get their copy banned
19:54.15allejoall the games I have are legit, i support the devs as best as i can
19:54.27allejoand no clue about the unique IDs. wouldn't doubt it though
19:54.41blast007"i think the only reason i wanted to flash my xbox in the first place was to torrent games and get copies from friends"
19:54.58blast007that's what I was referring to
19:55.26blast007for me, the ability to play from a backup disk or off the hard drive is to prolong the life of the original discs and/or the console itself
19:55.46blast007though both options I don't think I can play online (but I only have one game that supports online play anyway)
19:56.06allejoah yea. that was a while ago. i can afford games now :D
19:56.18blast007well, actually, I probably have more than one now.. some other games came with that linux kit ebay bundle
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20:04.07Snake12534Check out the blog now! It has been updated :)
20:04.44Snake12534http://gu-reptiles.blogspot.com/
20:04.47bzbotTitle: Reptiles (at gu-reptiles.blogspot.com)
20:08.17blast007no

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