IRC log for ##guleague on 20160115

00:53.25*** join/##guleague apt (ibot@rikers.org)
00:53.25*** topic/##guleague is Welcome to the official channel for the GU League || GU site http://www.guleague.org/ || http://forums.bzflag.org/viewforum.php?f=114 ||
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03:48.56Constitutionwe may be able to use archive.org to find the team names for some of the deleted matches
03:49.45blast007or backups - you guys have backups, right?  :)
03:51.21Constitutionthat's not as thrilling of a way to live life
03:57.08Constitutionglares at brad
04:03.23the_mapbrad is probably asleep; try again in 3-4 hours?
04:03.30the_map:P
04:06.05BulletCatcherThe autoreport server may have useful logs.
04:08.33Constitutionallejo already looked at that, and I believe the answer was no
04:33.18kierraIf we went to replay server, wouldn't it be  there?
04:33.26kierraTedious i k
04:33.58kierraOn that note, gn
04:37.33BulletCatcherIndeed.
04:37.34BulletCatcherThe league overseer includes team names in replay file names.
04:37.54BulletCatcherThere aren't too many replay servers to check these days, either.
04:37.58Constitutiongood idea
04:41.19BulletCatcherOn BRL there a only 3 recent official matches, all in the week of November 29 - December 5.
04:52.23allejobrad disabled the one feature I put that would have saved us from this issue
04:52.34allejoBut yea, replay files have the team names and dates
04:56.36Constitutionbrad: if you can get me an updated site dump, I'll try to make a list of broken team associations we need to fix
06:07.56allejoblast brought up a good point last time. Can we just remove the ability to delete teams from the code in bz-owl?
06:08.03allejoOr has that been done already
06:19.49Constitutionif only bzion was ready... :P
09:09.20bradallejo: which feature?
09:09.26bradblast007: yes, backups exist ;)
09:11.00bradConstitution: backups go back every day from 2015-10-01 so if you'd prefer one of those let me know
14:49.32Constitutionbrad: a recent dump (a nightly backup is fine) would at least give me a place to start... I believe there was at least one team that was deleted after I last got a database dump from you
14:50.45ConstitutionI'm not aware of any good way to pinpoint which backups we need to look at until we've looked at the current data to identify the missing teams
15:29.25kierraWhat happened to FiringSquad's acct on gu site?
15:29.48kierraI didnt think a player could delete their acct
15:30.16kierraWhat did i miss while out of town?  EIE is deleted
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16:46.09*** join/##guleague Flak (~Flak@2001:558:6030:27:cdbc:d363:dd9e:f5c3)
18:42.59allejobrad, the logging ability of the PHP script
21:26.09bradkierra: maybe due to inactivity?
21:27.11kierradoes gu site delete players' accts with maintenance?
21:29.06bradpossibly :P
21:29.15kierradoesnt....cuz shuya hasn't logged in since 2010-09-06 and still on site
21:29.31kierracan a player delete his own acct?
21:30.01kierraI guess if I test it with my own acct, i'll lose all those mails
21:30.15kierrathats one way to delete them, i guess :P
21:30.18braddon't really understand how it works tbh
21:30.36bradI don't even see the point of deleting inactives
21:32.52kierrai logged in with another of my accts and cannot delete my acct
21:32.59kierraso....what happened to FS
21:33.22kierraand did all of EIE members get deleted?
21:33.49kierralooks like it :/
21:34.13kierraboy do we need bzion soon
21:47.43Flaki'm looking into the issue which causes teams to be purged after they are deleted
21:48.45blast007it's just how the site was designed to work
21:49.12Flakare you certain?
21:49.36blast007on the Ducati site I disabled the maintenance stuff that deletes inactive teams/players and (iirc) turned off the option to delete a team
21:49.50Flakoh
21:50.16Flakhttps://www.guleague.org/News/
21:50.27FlakImport Announcement at 2015-12-29 01:59:51
21:52.51blast007I never said the site we designed well ;)
21:52.55blast007was*
21:53.07Flakoh
21:53.30blast007it's only less horrid than the previous system
21:53.39Flaki looked into a website archive
21:53.46Flakit may help
21:53.59blast007that was already mentioned before you joined
21:54.33blast007they also mentioned that replay files have the team names and there are some database backups that could be looked through
21:56.15Flakthats good

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