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| 02:29.21 | pmazer | what file handles the bash color schemes and what's the easiest way to change it? manually? |
| 02:34.30 | dooky | in bash or in like pythong? |
| 02:41.13 | mastergoon | /etc/DIR_COLORS i think |
| 02:43.19 | mackstann | dircolors(1) |
| 02:43.45 | mackstann | shouldn't mess with system files for personal preferences |
| 02:44.08 | pmazer | mackstann: thanks |
| 02:46.54 | pmazer | hmm.. that doesn't help... is there anyway to change the color blue that's used? that bright blue doesn't work so well, and i know if i add a bit more green/red itll show up a lot better |
| 02:47.18 | mackstann | there are only 16 colors |
| 02:47.29 | mackstann | to change the way they look on screen, mess with your terminal emulator |
| 02:47.43 | mackstann | for blue there's only the dark and light blue |
| 02:47.46 | pmazer | ah, okay |
| 02:52.04 | pmazer | because im randomly curious: im taking a poll: what's your favorite language and why? |
| 02:53.03 | mackstann | python, ca |
| 02:53.08 | mackstann | damn it |
| 02:53.13 | mackstann | can't explain it a whole lot |
| 02:53.30 | pmazer | because it's sexay |
| 02:53.32 | pmazer | ? |
| 02:53.34 | pmazer | =P |
| 02:53.38 | mackstann | it's expressive |
| 02:53.50 | mackstann | simple language that allows for powerful things |
| 02:54.38 | mackstann | i love simplicity and cleanliness |
| 02:55.26 | pmazer | mines probably java because i really haven't done much else and it's really clean and has a nice api |
| 02:55.39 | pmazer | though i do really enjoy python for the few things ive coded in it |
| 02:59.09 | whatah | c++ |
| 02:59.56 | whatah | because it has the benefits of c, with the OOP paradigm. I can't tell you how much i love classes over structs, the only time i choose a struct is when i wanna pop a couple data members together to pass in as a reference |
| 03:00.21 | mackstann | after coding a bunch of python, then coding a bunch of c++, i'm so glad to be coding python again |
| 03:00.31 | dooky | mackstann: thats how I feel about Perl/C |
| 03:00.40 | mackstann | c++ is neat for its own reasons but for a lot of things it's just masochistic compared to something like python |
| 03:00.54 | whatah | mackstann: depends what you want to do. for usability programming, i'm sure python is easier, but c++ is good for algorithms |
| 03:01.14 | whatah | which is what i like |
| 03:01.17 | mackstann | whatah: yeah but how many people sit around writing sort functions? |
| 03:01.21 | whatah | me |
| 03:01.24 | mackstann | heh |
| 03:01.26 | mackstann | booooooooooooooooring |
| 03:01.31 | whatah | i find that stuff interesting |
| 03:01.37 | mackstann | i do to an extent |
| 03:01.39 | whatah | topcoder is all algorithms |
| 03:01.47 | whatah | once i am good enough, i am gonna enter a competition |
| 03:01.48 | mackstann | but i don't want to sit around doing it all the time |
| 03:02.35 | whatah | hm |
| 03:02.46 | whatah | i think i would prefer that over programming useable programs |
| 03:03.01 | whatah | i don't like the tediousness involved in saying 'ok, if the user gives this input, then i have to do this' |
| 03:03.11 | mackstann | it's not just category 1: algorithms, category 2: gui toolkit busywork |
| 03:03.45 | whatah | erm, no |
| 03:04.04 | whatah | but there i certainly feel i have more creativity with algorithms |
| 03:04.23 | whatah | the idea that a program has a flow is not up my alley |
| 03:04.34 | mackstann | i like behind the scenes coding a lot |
| 03:04.38 | mackstann | but i wouldn't call it algorithms |
| 03:04.42 | whatah | well |
| 03:04.50 | whatah | i like the problem solving bits |
| 03:04.57 | mackstann | right, that's what i like |
| 03:05.04 | whatah | maybe i just need to do more programming until i learn to appreciate the rest |
| 03:05.18 | pmazer | whatah: im the same way... try coding up some games... that's fun, especially if you include ai and such... (connect 4 ai... heh heh heh) |
| 03:05.20 | whatah | but i don't go out of my way to program the tedious parts, but once i take a class in it, i will be forced to |
| 03:05.34 | whatah | pmazer: you have an algorithm for connect 4 ai? |
| 03:05.49 | dooky | anybody got some HTML python books? |
| 03:06.02 | pmazer | whatah: i just tried all 8 moves and calculated a score for each and moved to the highest score |
| 03:06.08 | mackstann | http://incise.org:82/books/ |
| 03:06.14 | whatah | that's a good way of doing it, pmazer |
| 03:06.30 | pmazer | whatah: but it requires a lot more thinking than normal programming, which you would probably enjoy |
| 03:06.32 | whatah | pmazer: you have a complex rule set for calculating scores? |
| 03:07.00 | pmazer | complex rule set? |
| 03:07.10 | whatah | like take double traps into account |
| 03:07.16 | whatah | see if the next move will lead you to a victory |
| 03:07.19 | whatah | and so on |
| 03:07.20 | pmazer | yeah |
| 03:07.23 | pmazer | pretty much |
| 03:07.32 | whatah | i am gonna take an AI course eventaully |
| 03:07.48 | pmazer | it wasn't as advanced as i wanted it to be, but the coding wasn't that good, so i didn't feel like taking it any further |
| 03:08.14 | dooky | Programming_Python_2nd_Ed._(O'Reilly).rar <-- html book? |
| 03:08.19 | mackstann | dooky: dunno |
| 03:08.22 | pmazer | O'Reilly Learning Python.pdf? |
| 03:08.32 | mackstann | learning python sucks |
| 03:08.35 | pmazer | is that legal? lol |
| 03:08.37 | mackstann | no |
| 03:08.38 | whatah | no |
| 03:08.40 | dooky | pmazer: no |
| 03:08.46 | whatah | i have that in hardcopy |
| 03:08.57 | whatah | it was definitely worth the 40$ |
| 03:09.01 | mackstann | i have learning python, that's it |
| 03:09.13 | mackstann | learning python is quite outdated |
| 03:09.33 | pmazer | mackstann: are there any good python books u know of? |
| 03:09.36 | mackstann | lots of important things that are now inaccurate |
| 03:09.38 | dooky | mackstann: /td |
| 03:09.47 | mackstann | pmazer: programming python i think is supposed to be the good one |
| 03:10.02 | mackstann | dooky: /td? |
| 03:10.08 | dooky | yeah its a script you have |
| 03:10.08 | dooky | lol |
| 03:10.15 | mackstann | eh? |
| 03:10.22 | dooky | http://incise.org:82/thisdick/ |
| 03:10.26 | mackstann | oh yeah |
| 03:10.27 | mackstann | haha |
| 03:10.30 | dooky | lol |
| 03:10.32 | mackstann | forgot about that |
| 03:10.32 | dooky | something like that |
| 03:10.37 | mackstann | an alias in irssi |
| 03:10.39 | dooky | what does ox do? |
| 03:10.57 | whatah | ox? |
| 03:11.10 | dooky | http://incise.org:82/pub/ox.cc.txt |
| 03:11.41 | mackstann | http://freshmeat.net/projects/ox/ |
| 03:12.19 | dooky | a cardboard box computer case? |
| 03:12.24 | mackstann | yeah |
| 03:12.28 | mackstann | it's now a logitech mouse box |
| 03:12.32 | dooky | lol |
| 03:12.45 | pmazer | im curious: why do people use std::string rather than add "using namespace std" at the top of their code and just use string? |
| 03:12.48 | mackstann | http://incise.org:82/pub/pics/feb2004/im705.jpg |
| 03:13.00 | mackstann | pmazer: in headers you're not supposed to pollute the namespace |
| 03:13.07 | mackstann | in implementation files it's just a matter of taste |
| 03:13.12 | dooky | mackstann: you don't get heat issues? |
| 03:13.19 | mackstann | it's a little extra to type but imo it's much clearer where things are "coming from" |
| 03:13.22 | pmazer | mackstann: oh, okay |
| 03:13.33 | mackstann | dooky: nah, it's a tualeron, runs real cool |
| 03:14.02 | dooky | cool |
| 03:14.08 | dooky | tuallie's were cool |
| 03:14.12 | dooky | tualtin powah |
| 03:14.47 | pmazer | mackstann: what arch is that? x86? |
| 03:14.57 | dooky | pmazer: uh yes |
| 03:15.10 | mackstann | pmazer: yeah, it's a celeron |
| 03:16.09 | pmazer | oh |
| 03:19.41 | whatah | hmmm |
| 03:19.44 | whatah | i wanna read this ox code |
| 03:20.13 | mackstann | http://incise.org:82/archzoom.cgi/mack@incise.org--2004?expanded |
| 03:20.33 | whatah | what is this? |
| 03:20.41 | whatah | you use arch code management? |
| 03:20.43 | mackstann | web frontend for arch |
| 03:20.44 | mackstann | yeah |
| 03:20.50 | whatah | meh |
| 03:21.02 | mackstann | meh? |
| 03:21.16 | whatah | it's allright looking |
| 03:21.23 | whatah | websvn kicks it's ass |
| 03:21.23 | mackstann | arch? |
| 03:21.35 | mackstann | i don't choose revision control based on the web frontend |
| 03:21.48 | mackstann | i found archzoom and threw it up one day |
| 03:22.11 | whatah | i use revision control based on how kick ass it is |
| 03:22.11 | whatah | actually, no |
| 03:22.14 | whatah | i just randomly chose svn |
| 03:22.17 | mackstann | heh |
| 03:22.32 | mackstann | arch is a big change from cvs but it's worth it imo |
| 03:22.43 | whatah | how so? |
| 03:22.51 | mackstann | just look at how cvs sucks |
| 03:22.58 | mackstann | in all of those ways, arch is great |
| 03:23.21 | mackstann | and then read the docs and stuff |
| 03:23.45 | whatah | how's cvs suck? |
| 03:23.50 | mackstann | heh |
| 03:23.56 | mackstann | forget it! |
| 03:24.00 | whatah | ok |
| 03:25.25 | mackstann | no revision control of renames or directories, non-atomic commits, need for running ssh or pserver |
| 03:25.37 | whatah | hmm |
| 03:25.41 | whatah | atomic? |
| 03:25.52 | mackstann | it either happens or it doesn't |
| 03:25.59 | whatah | i don't get it |
| 03:26.01 | mackstann | an atomic operation can't be "half done" |
| 03:26.04 | whatah | i see |
| 03:26.04 | mackstann | or incomplete |
| 03:26.07 | whatah | ok |
| 03:26.13 | whatah | svn solves all those problems |
| 03:26.37 | mackstann | afaik, you have to run some sort of server thing |
| 03:27.09 | mackstann | it's all tangled up with apache |
| 03:27.33 | mackstann | and the way arch repositories work is just quite pimp if i do say so myself |
| 03:28.16 | whatah | you have to run a server no matter what |
| 03:28.27 | whatah | svn has it's own server, but it is nice to be able to tie it in with apache |
| 03:28.37 | mackstann | right but i don't want to tie it in with anything |
| 03:28.44 | whatah | because my school limits my listening ports |
| 03:28.52 | mackstann | i just make a symlink of my arch repository in my web root and there we go, i have arch on the web |
| 03:28.53 | whatah | and only a select few are open |
| 03:29.06 | whatah | interesting |
| 03:29.08 | mackstann | anyone can do checkouts of my code |
| 03:29.14 | whatah | same with my code |
| 03:29.27 | mackstann | well obviously you can do it with any of them |
| 03:29.31 | mackstann | i mean with a simple symlink |
| 03:29.36 | mackstann | no server of any type to setup |
| 03:29.37 | whatah | ah |
| 03:29.39 | whatah | that's cool |
| 03:29.46 | whatah | how do they checkout? |
| 03:29.56 | mackstann | the files are all there |
| 03:30.03 | whatah | how does it do revision management? |
| 03:30.06 | mackstann | it just gets them and reconstructs them in its special way |
| 03:30.09 | whatah | you have to have a server of some sort |
| 03:30.12 | mackstann | eh? |
| 03:30.16 | whatah | well |
| 03:30.17 | mackstann | they're just files |
| 03:30.22 | whatah | how does arch track changes? |
| 03:30.30 | mackstann | changes where? |
| 03:30.39 | whatah | in the files, silly |
| 03:30.46 | mackstann | ... |
| 03:31.00 | mackstann | in the repository or in the local copy? |
| 03:31.37 | whatah | repository |
| 03:31.49 | mackstann | track in what way? |
| 03:31.52 | whatah | and how do people remotely upload changes |
| 03:31.55 | mackstann | what is the cvs or svn equivelant? |
| 03:32.05 | whatah | svn commit |
| 03:32.17 | whatah | from inside an svn tracked directory |
| 03:32.36 | mackstann | not sure, haven't used it for that yet |
| 03:32.42 | whatah | ah, there we go |
| 03:32.46 | mackstann | this is mostly why i mentioned the docs |
| 03:32.55 | whatah | well, if someone wants to checkout code and then check it back in |
| 03:32.56 | mackstann | the author knows a whole lot more than i do about arch |
| 03:32.58 | whatah | you aren't sure how to do it yet |
| 03:33.08 | mackstann | correct |
| 03:33.44 | mackstann | my own projects are just worked on by me |
| 03:33.47 | whatah | right |
| 03:33.58 | whatah | but, now, the point of a revision management system is so you can see revisions |
| 03:34.34 | whatah | i don't see what the different between you are doing and just autogenerating an index.html and then having the person do a wget -r somecode/repo/index.html |
| 03:34.44 | whatah | s/you/what you/ |
| 03:35.16 | mackstann | what i'm "doing"? |
| 03:35.19 | mackstann | with respect to what? |
| 03:37.04 | whatah | what you are using arch for |
| 03:37.15 | whatah | it seems like you are only using it so other people can easily download your code |
| 03:37.22 | mackstann | nope |
| 03:37.28 | whatah | what else? |
| 03:37.32 | mackstann | using it for revision control, of course |
| 03:37.40 | whatah | i asked you how you track changes |
| 03:37.46 | whatah | and you said 'changes? what are changes?' |
| 03:37.48 | whatah | heh |
| 03:37.58 | mackstann | you gave little context |
| 03:38.18 | whatah | i think i explained it pretty well |
| 03:38.29 | mackstann | well either way we misunderstood each other |
| 03:38.33 | whatah | right |
| 03:38.42 | whatah | you need a server for arch, right/ |
| 03:38.48 | whatah | that's how you track changes |
| 03:38.49 | mackstann | imo any project should be in revision control |
| 03:38.51 | mackstann | no |
| 03:39.07 | whatah | so how does it track changes? |
| 03:39.10 | mackstann | the repository is just a directory in ~ |
| 03:39.17 | mackstann | the 'tla' command line program manages everything |
| 03:39.23 | mackstann | as would 'cvs' or 'svn' |
| 03:39.34 | mackstann | who needs a server? |
| 03:39.35 | whatah | so how do other people commit a change |
| 03:39.40 | mackstann | revision control has nothing to do with multiple people |
| 03:39.51 | mackstann | necessarily, anyways |
| 03:40.14 | whatah | this is true, but most revision control apps have a way for multiple people to edit code |
| 03:40.20 | mackstann | it's like having a bank account, instead of just tossing a bunch of money in a jar |
| 03:40.27 | mackstann | of course |
| 03:40.49 | whatah | damnit, do you know how other people commit changes or not? |
| 03:40.57 | mackstann | haha |
| 03:40.57 | whatah | this is so frustrating |
| 03:40.58 | mackstann | NO |
| 03:41.00 | whatah | ok |
| 03:41.02 | mackstann | tla commit |
| 03:41.05 | whatah | right |
| 03:41.08 | whatah | but when they check it out |
| 03:41.11 | mackstann | but as far as remotely, i'm not sure what the semantics are for setting that up |
| 03:41.13 | whatah | on your symlink |
| 03:41.17 | whatah | they can't check it back in |
| 03:41.24 | mackstann | thought i answered that before |
| 03:41.24 | whatah | because, apache doesn't give remote users write access |
| 03:41.28 | mackstann | it can |
| 03:41.30 | whatah | so you need some sort of server |
| 03:41.35 | whatah | then you need to fuck around with apache |
| 03:41.42 | whatah | which is something you said you didn't want to do in the first place |
| 03:41.55 | mackstann | i didn't say that |
| 03:42.01 | mackstann | it's just cool not to need to |
| 03:42.05 | whatah | ok |
| 03:42.30 | whatah | very good |
| 03:43.25 | whatah | i am really afraid of a hard drive failure |
| 03:43.31 | whatah | because i put so much time into configuring everything |
| 03:43.32 | mackstann | Some archives can be accessed over a network, currently via any of the protocols: |
| 03:43.32 | mackstann | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:43.32 | mackstann | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:43.32 | mackstann | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:43.32 | mackstann | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:43.36 | mackstann | there you have it |
| 03:43.48 | whatah | sftp needs ssh |
| 03:43.53 | whatah | ftp isn't secure |
| 03:44.01 | mackstann | sftp is ssh, essentially |
| 03:44.07 | whatah | yes, i know that |
| 03:44.44 | mackstann | i'm not trying to tell you to use arch |
| 03:44.53 | mackstann | i'm just trying to answer your questions |
| 03:47.22 | whatah | ok |
| 03:47.34 | whatah | i was just wondering what was so good about arch |
| 03:48.50 | mackstann | Fully Distributed arch doesn't rely on a central repository . For example, there is no need to give write access to a project's archive to all significant contributors, instead, each contributor can have their own archive for their work. arch seamlessly operates across archive boundaries. |
| 03:48.58 | mackstann | i believe that's what i was trying to get at |
| 03:50.17 | whatah | interesting method |
| 03:57.08 | whatah | ok, i just backed up my stuff |
| 03:57.12 | whatah | i am really afraid of losing my settings |
| 03:57.26 | whatah | did an etc/ and home/ backup of my settings |
| 03:57.28 | whatah | thank god |
| 03:59.55 | whatah | anyone here switch to the new bash? |
| 04:00.16 | mackstann | is there some sort of summary of what's new in it? |
| 04:00.21 | whatah | yeah |
| 04:00.21 | mackstann | the changelog was a bit verbose |
| 04:01.10 | whatah | oh |
| 04:01.14 | whatah | i was about to send you it |
| 04:01.16 | whatah | http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&start=25&hl=en&lr=lang_da%7Clang_en%7Clang_no%7Clang_pl%7Clang_sv&ie=UTF-8&group=comp.unix.shell&c2coff=1&selm=ce69oa%24sevñ%40eeyore.INS.cwru.edu |
| 04:01.31 | mackstann | Message id or article number ce69oa$sevñ@eeyore.INS.cwru.edu not found. |
| 04:01.45 | whatah | http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&start=25&hl=en&lr=lang_da%7Clang_en%7Clang_no%7Clang_pl%7Clang_sv&ie=UTF-8&group=comp.unix.shell&c2coff=1&selm=ce69oa%24sevñ%40eeyore.INS.cwru.edu |
| 04:01.54 | whatah | hrm |
| 04:02.16 | whatah | http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/07/29/139218 |
| 04:02.23 | whatah | click the 'usenet post' link |
| 04:03.04 | mackstann | yeah that was what i meant |
| 04:03.10 | whatah | ah |
| 04:03.17 | whatah | it's not that verbose |
| 04:03.26 | whatah | all i've noticed is that my readline is b0rked |
| 04:03.28 | mackstann | it's like 10 pages |
| 04:03.42 | whatah | and therefore when i type, it doesn't go all the way to the end of the terminal, but wraps earlier |
| 04:03.46 | mackstann | i guess it does have a summary, but there's nothing interesting in that |
| 04:03.47 | whatah | just read the shortlist at the top |
| 04:23.45 | pmazer | night |
| 04:27.43 | whatah | good niht |
| 04:58.16 | dooky | back |
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| 09:08.39 | aum | hi - how's aegis coming along? |
| 09:43.50 | floppyears | aum: they are doing pretty good |
| 09:44.14 | floppyears | aum: I saw that they are working on logos, and also they are now using FOX |
| 09:44.19 | floppyears | instead of Cairo. |
| 09:50.10 | aum | Cairo is a graphical lib? |
| 09:51.01 | mackstann | a vector graphics library |
| 09:51.04 | mackstann | cairographics.org |
| 09:51.10 | aum | oh |
| 09:53.22 | mackstann | i'm not sure how cairo and fox are really equivelant |
| 09:53.26 | mackstann | and fox is teh ugly |
| 09:53.38 | mackstann | but, i don't pay too much attention |
| 09:53.52 | aum | any alpha release eta? |
| 09:54.17 | mackstann | don't think so |
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| 14:14.15 | doc|work | any devs around? have website designed if you want to cast an eye upon it? |
| 14:16.54 | pmazer | yeah, that would be awesome |
| 14:19.08 | doc|work | one sec |
| 14:19.54 | doc|work | bear in mind it's just a graphical design so you can say yay or nay |
| 14:23.26 | doc|work | http://www.synack-tech.com/dev/aegis/aegismain.png (1.3mb) |
| 14:24.07 | pmazer | dude, that's incredible |
| 14:24.38 | doc|work | :) |
| 14:24.47 | doc|work | i take it you're happy then? :) |
| 14:25.37 | pmazer | yeah, very |
| 14:28.37 | doc|work | say it to the rest and once i know everyone's happy I start on the site itself |
| 14:28.43 | doc|work | s/I/I'll |
| 14:29.05 | doc|work | I have a cms which should cover the content. all I'll need is hosting and a mysql db |
| 14:31.40 | dooky | www.poipulinux.org |
| 14:31.45 | dooky | that is a hawt and sexy page right there |
| 14:32.03 | doc|work | and slow |
| 14:32.05 | doc|work | :) |
| 14:32.20 | dooky | Lol. |
| 14:34.44 | pmazer | dooky: is poipu being built from scratch or on top of gentoo? |
| 14:38.13 | pmazer | the one problem bn.com has that could make it better than amazon.com, you should be able to search your local bookstore to see if they have certain books in stock |
| 14:39.28 | doc|work | pmazer: would involve a fairly concise inventory system don't you think? |
| 14:39.47 | dooky | pmazer: wtf |
| 14:39.49 | dooky | from scratch |
| 14:40.23 | pmazer | dooky: i just thought you were building the package system on top of emerge... would've made it easier :-/ |
| 14:41.10 | pmazer | doc|work: hmm.. i would think that you would just have to make each store's database avaliable only, and be able to search that |
| 14:41.15 | dooky | since when does easier = better? ;) |
| 14:41.24 | pmazer | but i think the problem is that the store and the website are seperate companies |
| 14:41.28 | pmazer | dooky: lol |
| 14:41.40 | doc|work | pmazer: exactly, no mean feat for a small book shop |
| 14:42.04 | pmazer | doc|work: barnes and noble? small? heh heh heh |
| 14:43.04 | doc|work | ah ok |
| 14:43.13 | doc|work | didn't know bn.com was barnes & noble |
| 14:43.18 | pmazer | ah, sorry |
| 14:43.38 | pmazer | yeah. that would be tough for most smaller bookstores |
| 14:43.47 | pmazer | but i think barnes and noble could do it |
| 16:19.03 | pmazer | dooky: the desktop's looking good |
| 17:03.15 | whatah | yo yo yo |
| 17:03.57 | dooky | pmazer: what? |
| 17:07.01 | pmazer | dooky: was just looking at the august desktops thread |
| 17:10.18 | dooky | oh, thanks. :) |
| 17:21.52 | whatah | august desktops thread? |
| 17:21.59 | whatah | gooeylinux? |
| 17:22.41 | pmazer | gentoo linux forums =P |
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| 18:13.38 | pmazer | Come'on baby run Linspire |
| 18:13.47 | pmazer | haha, did anyone else see that flash? |
| 18:14.02 | dooky | yorp |
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| 18:15.59 | pmazer | they took it off their website :( |
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| 21:53.59 | pmazer | I just got "The C++ Programming Language" by Bjarne Stroustrup :-D |
| 21:57.10 | andoo | the master himself :) |
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| 22:11.22 | whatah | pmazer: that's an awesome book |
| 22:11.26 | whatah | pmazer: i want to buy it |
| 22:11.45 | whatah | i have the pdf version |
| 22:11.53 | whatah | or whatever the online one i have is |
| 22:15.39 | pmazer | whatah: yeah, it is |
| 22:16.21 | pmazer | couldn't learn c++ from it, but if you know c++, you learn so much more |
| 22:20.13 | whatah | yeah, i think i know c++ |
| 22:22.08 | pmazer | lol |
| 22:22.41 | pmazer | yeah, i wasn't implying that you don't... i've just read a lot of reviews that complain about the book because they wanted to learn the language from it |
| 22:22.52 | whatah | right |
| 22:23.21 | whatah | i am such an asshole |
| 22:23.28 | whatah | someone told me they were babysitting, so i said baby sitting is fun |
| 22:23.41 | whatah | and that babies are just so much tighter than 12 year olds |
| 22:23.46 | andoo | whatah: where can i find the online version? |
| 22:25.50 | pmazer | whatah: how does that make u an asshole? |
| 22:26.01 | whatah | cause i was implying that babies are fun to fuck |
| 22:26.19 | whatah | http://store.yahoo.com/ppfastore/ihadabt.html |
| 22:28.26 | pmazer | no, that's just disgusting |
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| 23:05.20 | whatah | pmazer: you think it's disgusting? |
| 23:47.09 | pmazer | umm... yes............... |
