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| 10:20.48 | Klenje | hi |
| 10:21.07 | Klenje | i have a question about intents |
| 10:22.30 | Klenje | an intent can be received only by running processes or there is a mechanism that also start the right for that intent if the process in not started yet? |
| 10:22.56 | Klenje | the right process i mean |
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| 10:48.54 | mike1o | what's the difference between starting an activity and starting a SUB activity? |
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| 11:04.49 | mike1o | gosub?? |
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| 14:30.13 | mike1o | how do I load a background image to my activity? |
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| 14:45.05 | der_maddis | http://code.google.com/android/reference/android/view/View.html#setBackground(android.graphics.drawable.Drawable) |
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| 16:20.04 | chomchom | Anyone else had any trouble applying styles to string references in tablelayouts embedded within other tablelayouts? |
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| 16:40.20 | romainguy | chomchom: it's a bug but it's unrelated to TableLayout |
| 16:47.32 | chomchom | how so? |
| 16:47.46 | chomchom | could you please explain or point me to the issue? |
| 16:48.08 | chomchom | thats great thats its been recognised though |
| 16:49.16 | davidw | they're pretty fast at finding and fixing problems |
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| 16:53.29 | davidw | they're not so skilled at keeping a stable irc connection alive |
| 16:53.42 | romainguy__ | that's when I turn on VPN :) |
| 16:54.17 | romainguy | besides, I can sitll see the conversation from this side :)) |
| 16:54.52 | romainguy | chomchom: So the problem is that we cache String that come from XML files |
| 16:55.14 | romainguy | chomchom: If you use the same reference String several times in your layout and apply a style to one of them, it messes up with the others |
| 16:58.01 | chomchom | ah right |
| 16:58.30 | chomchom | so do you need to copy the reference to apply a style then? |
| 16:59.43 | chomchom | that would fix it on the compiler side, meantime is there any way for me to make references of references? |
| 17:00.29 | chomchom | so @color/green would look first to copy the reference of @color/master ? |
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| 17:01.45 | romainguy | chomchom: the result would be the same |
| 17:02.05 | romainguy | chomchom: for now, you can try creating several entries with the same value |
| 17:02.22 | chomchom | yeah I guess, thanks |
| 17:02.30 | romainguy | but really, this is a bug we need to fix :) |
| 17:03.03 | chomchom | Is there any other big style bugs that you could give me a heads up on? |
| 17:03.19 | romainguy__ | None that I am aware of |
| 17:03.34 | romainguy__ | But I don't really work on that part of Android, so it might just be ignorance from my part :) |
| 17:04.26 | chomchom | While I've got an active conversation going, is there any way to have a notification swoosh into the screen? |
| 17:04.53 | chomchom | preferably a notification that has been substituted with a picture |
| 17:05.39 | romainguy__ | using the NotificationManager? |
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| 19:00.40 | jasta | so quiet :) |
| 19:00.44 | jasta | must be something big about to happen... |
| 19:01.23 | xbit | yes, it's quiet before the storm |
| 19:05.46 | jasonlee | can you RSVP for the boston event yet? |
| 19:12.44 | davidw | it was worth going to the even they did in munich, btw |
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| 19:13.00 | davidw | there was plenty of time to just chat with them about various things |
| 19:22.34 | chomchom | were there loads of apps on display at the events? |
| 19:23.31 | chomchom | I've noticed a real lack of apps available for android in general even though there must be tons in development. I think everyone is keeping them close to their chest until the first deadline |
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| 19:25.28 | chomchom | I'm really looking forward to when everyone shows off their new apps, very exciting. I thought maybe at a developer event maybe some of the developers had brought along their betas |
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| 19:28.37 | chomchom | Did anyone in here attend any of the android developer days? Did google have a few more tid bits and demos to show off? |
| 19:29.14 | zhobbs | They haven't come to the southeast yet... |
| 19:30.15 | zhobbs | I heard at the campfire there wasn't a presentation or agenda really...sounds like the other ones had a slide presentation |
| 19:30.39 | davidw | zhobbs, yeah, that's what I liked about it |
| 19:30.53 | zhobbs | davidw, the campfire? |
| 19:31.06 | davidw | I hate those things if there's an Agenda, and halfway through you realize it's not what you are interested in |
| 19:31.09 | zhobbs | chomchom, here's some info on the munich one: http://jars.de/java/android-workshop-in-munich |
| 19:31.12 | davidw | well, the munich thing |
| 19:31.35 | zhobbs | ahh, you're in germany |
| 19:31.40 | chomchom | thx |
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| 19:31.46 | davidw | austria, but... I drove to munich |
| 19:32.51 | chomchom | I missed the one in london. ... reading the post you just linked. The new sdk has a new UI?! wow |
| 19:33.32 | zhobbs | chomchom, yeah, looking forward to that |
| 19:46.23 | chomchom | The astonishing tribe (the guys to who google have outsourced the UI) look like an interesting bunch. Lots of concepts on their site: http://blog.tat.se/default.aspx |
| 19:47.31 | zhobbs | I didn't know they outsourced it... |
| 19:49.22 | chomchom | its a swedish company, theres a comment by Juergen Fey sagt saying that Dan Morill stated it was being developed by TAT |
| 19:49.36 | chomchom | a comment on the site you posted |
| 19:53.28 | zhobbs | I wonder if google is going to wait for the Mobile World Congress (Feb 11-14) to reveal the new UI |
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| 20:02.27 | chomchom | That sounds likely. That will rev up audiences enough to attract yet more attention to the new sdk release |
| 20:11.15 | jasta | yeah, i checked out TAT last night as well, there's some interesting stuff there. |
| 20:11.22 | jasta | i'm really anxious :) |
| 20:12.18 | davidw | techcrunch guy puts foot in mouth: http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/04/googles-android-is-already-delayed/ |
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| 20:23.29 | jasta | davidw: there's been a lot of really backwards blog media coverage of Android... |
| 20:24.03 | jasta | frankly, i think the industry is scared ;) |
| 20:24.16 | jasta | nobody knows what to think hehe |
| 20:33.41 | jasta | in a related note, there are a lot of idiots on the android-developers list ;) |
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| 21:56.39 | davidw | jasta, yep |
| 22:01.12 | Yeggstry | that's useful, I needed a bit more time on my project |
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| 22:11.55 | jasta | ugh, i have to go to Peachtree City, GA tomororw |
| 22:14.25 | jasta | i hate the south so much :) |
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| 22:37.30 | mike1o | can I use a png image as the wallpaper/background for my activity? |
| 22:40.14 | zhobbs | yeah, add it to res/drawables and then set the android:background="@drawable/background" |
| 22:41.46 | davidw | so... messages and handlers |
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| 22:43.22 | chomchom | yeah... message and handlers |
| 22:44.21 | davidw | what's Looper? loops waiting for messages? |
| 22:47.18 | chomchom | I think the Looper is something that wraps around thread calls waiting for messages yeah |
| 22:47.38 | chomchom | So its like a message handler for the life of a particular event |
| 22:48.31 | chomchom | actually you create a Looper within a Thread by the looks of things |
| 22:49.48 | chomchom | here is a nice implementation of them: http://www.anddev.org/trackbuilder_for_mock_location_providers-t384.html |
| 22:51.56 | jasta | the looper is just the event loop for a particular thread. |
| 22:53.09 | zhobbs | Hmm, in that anddev tutorial are they using the looper in the thread to avoid using messages I guess? |
| 22:54.19 | jasta | the looper should not be used in that way. that example is crap. |
| 22:54.47 | zhobbs | yeah, that's weird...I would use a handler |
| 22:55.00 | jasta | yeah, they should use a handler and post the UI changes they are trying to make to the main UI thread that way. |
| 22:55.10 | jasta | and handle them there. the thread should not be doing anything relating to the UI. |
| 22:55.14 | jasta | that is, the spawned thread. |
| 22:56.12 | jasta | in fact, this is just entirely accidental that it works correctly. they're really creating their own nested event loop which can handle only one event (the modal alert dialog) |
| 22:56.37 | jasta | but that is precisely what the alert is doing on its own. |
| 22:58.24 | jasta | this is a really easy way to deadlock your program too. |
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