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| 00:36.05 | Tobsn | someone here knows a cross platform widget lib that supports igoogle, facebook etc.? |
| 00:44.42 | jerkface03 | is it possible for the android eclipse plugin to operate on something that's outside of the workspace? for example can I put my res folder and src folder in a folder that isn't apart of the sclipse workspace and still be able to use the eclipse plugin? |
| 01:05.26 | romainguy | jerkface03: why don't you want to put them in the workspace? |
| 01:29.18 | jerkface03 | no reason in particular |
| 01:29.30 | jerkface03 | i just have a seperate svn repo for all my test code |
| 01:29.36 | jerkface03 | and its all already checked out in 1 folder |
| 01:40.55 | jerkface03 | lol nice, it imported properly |
| 01:41.07 | jerkface03 | but it wont run in the emulator yet |
| 01:43.20 | jerkface03 | k sweet |
| 01:43.22 | jerkface03 | it works now |
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| 06:10.56 | zhobbs | romainguy: when drawing text onto a canvas is there a way to auto wrap, or do I just need to use measureText() and do it myself? |
| 06:11.56 | zhobbs | that's Paint.measureText() btw |
| 06:12.50 | romainguy | you have to do it yourself |
| 06:13.17 | zhobbs | k, thanks |
| 06:39.51 | zhobbs | hey romainguy, hope I'm not bugging you...but can you give me some pointers on how to define (via theme I guess) the look of selected items in a ListActivity/ListView? |
| 06:41.56 | zhobbs | I have a feeling it's with a StateListDrawable...just not sure how to use it |
| 06:43.42 | romainguy | yeah you need a StateListDrawable |
| 06:43.47 | romainguy | which are a lot easier to use in XML |
| 06:44.05 | romainguy | they look like this: |
| 06:44.05 | romainguy | <selector xmlns:android="http://schemas.android.com/apk/res/android"> |
| 06:44.21 | romainguy | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:44.24 | romainguy | </selector> |
| 06:45.05 | romainguy | you can use android:focused, android:selected, android:enabled, android:window_focused and android:pressed |
| 06:45.48 | zhobbs | so I can define that in my <style>? Or do I just pass the selector in to a view in xml? |
| 06:46.00 | romainguy | either way |
| 06:46.16 | romainguy | but you can just use android:selector="@drawable/myStateListSelector" |
| 06:46.53 | zhobbs | great, thanks a lot |
| 06:47.32 | romainguy | you're welcome :) |
| 06:49.17 | zhobbs | I was having a hell of a time figuring out how to do that for imagebuttons as well |
| 06:50.34 | romainguy | same thing |
| 06:50.40 | romainguy | except you set android:background |
| 06:54.10 | zhobbs | hehe, late night of coding huh? |
| 06:54.13 | romainguy | yeah |
| 06:54.20 | romainguy | GridView is getting on my nerves :) |
| 06:55.27 | zhobbs | how many devs working on the ui stuff? |
| 06:55.36 | romainguy | I cannot tell you :) |
| 06:57.44 | zhobbs | :) |
| 06:57.55 | zhobbs | you guys are sneaky :) |
| 06:58.11 | romainguy | hehe |
| 06:59.06 | zhobbs | man...I'm going to be banging my head into a wall now... |
| 06:59.13 | romainguy | why? |
| 06:59.33 | zhobbs | eclipse is messed up...isn't creating an apk in /bin for some reason |
| 06:59.50 | zhobbs | no errors |
| 07:00.16 | romainguy | aah Eclipse :)) |
| 07:00.29 | romainguy | at least you have a nice plugin to work with :) |
| 07:00.55 | romainguy | when you work on the UI toolkit like me, you have no such plugin and you need to restart the emulator for every change you want to try :) |
| 07:01.04 | romainguy | (not really the emulator but the android runtime) |
| 07:02.21 | zhobbs | doh |
| 07:02.50 | zhobbs | this nice plugin is doing some strange things...won't generate R or build apk right now |
| 07:03.23 | romainguy | GRIDVIEW @!# |
| 07:03.23 | zhobbs | damn selector blew up my whole project :) |
| 07:03.31 | romainguy | hehe |
| 07:05.20 | zhobbs | yep, deleted my selector and all is well now...is ther anything wrong with having a selectors.xml file in res/values? |
| 07:05.33 | romainguy | it should not be in values |
| 07:05.43 | romainguy | it won't be recognized by aapt and it's likely to crash your build |
| 07:06.04 | romainguy | what is selectors.xml? a <selector/>? |
| 07:06.07 | romainguy | if so, put it in drawable |
| 07:06.24 | zhobbs | ahhh...I've never put xml in drawable |
| 07:06.28 | romainguy | :) |
| 07:06.36 | romainguy | I should have been more precise |
| 07:06.39 | zhobbs | even drawable colors I put in values |
| 07:06.52 | romainguy | well, in drawable you can use XML for two things mainly |
| 07:06.56 | romainguy | state lists |
| 07:07.03 | romainguy | and shape drawable |
| 07:07.14 | romainguy | (those are pretty nice, this is how, for instance, I implemented the rotating progress bar) |
| 07:07.44 | romainguy | the rotating progress bar is an XML composed of two layers, one is the background, the second one being the actual progress shape itself |
| 07:07.56 | romainguy | you can also use those XML to apply scales, rotations, etc. to other drawables |
| 07:08.28 | zhobbs | wow...it'll be nice when all your code is available for us to learn from |
| 07:08.42 | romainguy | or better yet, comprehensive documentation :) |
| 07:08.56 | zhobbs | hehe, yeah I couldn't find any of the state stuff in the docs |
| 07:10.21 | zhobbs | I'm getting "No resource identifier found for attribute 'focused' in package 'android'" for that selector's <item> |
| 07:10.39 | romainguy | hmm |
| 07:11.17 | romainguy | oops sorry |
| 07:11.20 | romainguy | it's state_focused |
| 07:11.24 | romainguy | state_pressed |
| 07:11.25 | romainguy | etc. |
| 07:12.23 | zhobbs | ahh, thanks |
| 07:17.02 | zhobbs | now it's complaining about android:selector not existing for my ListView |
| 07:17.40 | romainguy | listSelector not selector |
| 07:17.49 | romainguy | my memory's fucked up tonight :) |
| 07:18.37 | zhobbs | that'll happen after you mess around with gridviews this late after a long day of coding I'm sure |
| 07:18.49 | romainguy | not GridViewS |
| 07:18.53 | romainguy | GridView :) |
| 07:19.00 | romainguy | If I was merely using it, that'd be fine |
| 07:19.08 | zhobbs | that's true |
| 07:20.59 | zhobbs | Error: No resource found that matches the given name (at 'listSelector' with value '@drawable/list_selector'). |
| 07:21.27 | zhobbs | in /drawable/selector I have a <selector xmlns:android="http://schemas.android.com/apk/res/android" name="list_selector"> |
| 07:21.55 | romainguy | er |
| 07:21.55 | romainguy | no |
| 07:22.04 | romainguy | it should be in a file called list_selector |
| 07:22.10 | romainguy | and you don't need the name attribute |
| 07:22.12 | zhobbs | ok |
| 07:22.19 | romainguy | it's just like any other drawable |
| 07:22.33 | zhobbs | ahhh... |
| 07:22.37 | zhobbs | makes sense |
| 07:24.26 | zhobbs | do I need to define all states in that drawable? |
| 07:24.55 | romainguy | nope |
| 07:25.05 | romainguy | only the ones you want |
| 07:25.13 | romainguy | and you can combine them |
| 07:25.25 | romainguy | I highly encourage you to be as specific as possible |
| 07:25.44 | romainguy | for instance: android:state_pressed="true" android:state_focused="true" rather than just state_pressed |
| 07:26.10 | zhobbs | gotcha |
| 07:26.13 | zhobbs | getting runtime InflateException now :( |
| 07:26.29 | romainguy | ouch |
| 07:26.33 | romainguy | details? |
| 07:26.53 | zhobbs | only happens when I have the android:listSelector on my listview.. |
| 07:27.04 | romainguy | I mean, what does the exception says? |
| 07:27.05 | zhobbs | I'll get strace |
| 07:30.01 | zhobbs | well, here's the message: An error has occurred in process <package>. Unable to start activity ComponentInfo {<package>/<listactivity>}; android.view.ViewInflate$InflateException: Binary XML file like #371: Error inflating class java.lang.reflect.Contructor |
| 07:30.20 | romainguy | there should be more in the logs |
| 07:30.42 | romainguy | it looks like your selector has errors in it |
| 07:30.47 | romainguy | and it crashes ListView's constructor |
| 07:30.57 | romainguy | can you paste it here? |
| 07:31.59 | zhobbs | <selector xmlns:android="http://schemas.android.com/apk/res/android"><item android:state_focused="true" android:state_selected="false" android:drawable="@drawable/disabled_tab" /></selector> |
| 07:32.16 | zhobbs | in colors.xml: <drawable name="disabled_tab">#44000000</drawable> |
| 07:32.32 | zhobbs | I also tried use just a random png drawable and same result |
| 07:33.43 | romainguy | hmm it looks good to me |
| 07:34.18 | zhobbs | hmm...the layout is kinda big, gets inflation errors if I try to stick a mapview in it also |
| 07:34.29 | romainguy | weird |
| 07:35.18 | zhobbs | It's a 5 tab activity, and stuck the layout for each tab in a ViewAnimator :) So it might be kinda a mess |
| 07:35.49 | romainguy | ahah indeed :) |
| 07:36.10 | romainguy | are you sure the logs don't show anything more? |
| 07:36.30 | romainguy | I thought inflate exceptions showed the line number that failed in XML |
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| 07:37.04 | zhobbs | ahh, there is a lot in the logs |
| 07:37.18 | romainguy | :) |
| 07:38.58 | romainguy | raaah, I finally tamed GridView \o/ |
| 07:39.36 | zhobbs | Nice |
| 07:39.41 | zhobbs | E/AndroidRuntime(713): Caused by: org.xmlpull.v1.XmlPullParserException: Binary XML file line #2: invalid drawable tag resources |
| 07:39.55 | zhobbs | It's not liking the drawable in my selector |
| 07:43.17 | zhobbs | ahh...I guess I'm not supposed to have a <resources> tag in my list_selector.xml... |
| 07:43.21 | zhobbs | :) |
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| 07:45.35 | romainguy__ | oops |
| 07:45.39 | zhobbs | :) |
| 07:45.44 | romainguy__ | did I miss anything? |
| 07:45.49 | zhobbs | hehe, yeah |
| 07:45.58 | zhobbs | I guess I'm not supposed to have a <resources> tag in my list_selector.xml... |
| 07:46.20 | zhobbs | that was my prob |
| 07:46.33 | romainguy__ | ah no, you're not supposed to do that :) |
| 07:47.48 | zhobbs | so you think creating a tabbed activity with ViewAnimator is a bad idea? |
| 07:48.10 | zhobbs | pretty layouts on each tab for the most part |
| 07:48.12 | romainguy__ | I think it's a bad idea given the state of tabs in M3 |
| 07:48.23 | zhobbs | No, don't use your tabs |
| 07:48.24 | romainguy__ | but other than that, no, I don't see why it could be a bad idea :) |
| 07:48.28 | romainguy__ | ah cool |
| 07:48.34 | zhobbs | made a custom tab view |
| 07:48.56 | romainguy__ | zhobbs: tabs may make a come back in the next SDK ;-) |
| 07:49.33 | zhobbs | Ahhh, well...if they were to come back would you use different activities for each tab, or just different views? |
| 07:50.21 | romainguy__ | views I believe |
| 07:50.50 | zhobbs | use multiple activities was too slow...so I'm using the ViewAnimator to switch views |
| 07:51.12 | romainguy__ | actually the tabs might support both |
| 07:55.03 | zhobbs | whoops, "double caffeine coffee" |
| 07:55.41 | romainguy__ | I wish I liked coffee :) |
| 07:58.22 | xbit | no, be lucky you don't |
| 07:58.26 | romainguy__ | :) |
| 07:58.34 | xbit | it's poison for the body :) |
| 07:58.43 | zhobbs | yep |
| 07:59.13 | romainguy__ | yeah but it'd help right now |
| 07:59.13 | zhobbs | probably better for you than lots of energy drinks though... |
| 07:59.20 | zhobbs | that sugar makes me crash |
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| 08:03.07 | romainguy | VPN @!# |
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| 08:03.35 | xbit | great stuff ;) |
| 08:05.12 | sushmu | why is coffee bad? |
| 08:05.36 | duey | indeed |
| 08:05.39 | duey | why is it bad? |
| 08:05.58 | sushmu | i have heard only good things about coffee |
| 08:06.03 | duey | me too |
| 08:06.15 | xbit | it contains all kinds of different stimulants that has different effects on your body |
| 08:06.23 | duey | like caffine? |
| 08:06.30 | duey | thats the only stimulant |
| 08:06.38 | duey | all the rest is antioxidents |
| 08:06.41 | duey | which is ++ for body |
| 08:06.46 | sushmu | correct |
| 08:06.48 | xbit | at instant, it's good, it makes you productive and stuff, but the longer term effects is bad |
| 08:06.57 | duey | thats incorrect |
| 08:06.57 | sushmu | no long term is good |
| 08:07.10 | duey | the only long term effect is you become dependant on caffine |
| 08:07.14 | duey | but most of the population is |
| 08:07.15 | sushmu | ha ha |
| 08:07.25 | duey | and there is no known downsides to that |
| 08:07.32 | duey | except you have to have coffee in the morning |
| 08:07.37 | sushmu | you got to be some sort of an addict right, better to be a coffee addict |
| 08:07.42 | duey | yep |
| 08:07.52 | duey | and you can't become addited to caffine (aka you need more and more) |
| 08:07.55 | duey | only dependant |
| 08:07.56 | sushmu | and i heard tea is also good :) |
| 08:08.04 | duey | yeah tea has lots of the good stuff too |
| 08:08.47 | xbit | drinking coffee in the day makes it harder for me to fall asleep at night |
| 08:08.59 | xbit | and therefore more tired in the morning, so i need more coffee, and so on.. |
| 08:09.18 | duey | i dont drink coffe after 3pm |
| 08:09.28 | sushmu | i drink only twice |
| 08:10.16 | duey | i roast my own beans |
| 08:10.20 | duey | espresso i nthe morning |
| 08:10.25 | duey | and drip during the day |
| 08:10.37 | zhobbs | nice, in a special roaster or just in the over or something? |
| 08:10.40 | duey | yeah |
| 08:10.45 | duey | www.hottopusa.com |
| 08:10.45 | xbit | i only drink coffee when i don't have to get up early the next morning |
| 08:10.50 | sushmu | can we build a coffee brewer in android? |
| 08:11.24 | zhobbs | http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Coffee.html |
| 08:11.56 | zhobbs | that with some bluetooth and you're in business |
| 08:12.31 | sushmu | Linux DOES make coffee; and it tastes good as well! |
| 08:12.36 | sushmu | good to know this from the site |
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| 08:14.11 | jerkface03 | aye |
| 08:14.34 | jerkface03 | romainguy, you there? are you sure calling clipRect() with the entire view size will reset the clip? |
| 08:15.30 | jerkface03 | im calling clipRect(int,int,int,int) |
| 08:15.49 | romainguy | what values do you pass? |
| 08:16.00 | romainguy | again, I highly advise you *not* to do this |
| 08:16.20 | jerkface03 | 0,0,view.width,view.height |
| 08:16.22 | romainguy | the framework uses optimized code paths to avoid (re)drawing unnecessary portions of the screen |
| 08:16.34 | romainguy | and it's very likely that what you draw outside of your view's bounds will be erased |
| 08:16.39 | romainguy | what is "view"? |
| 08:16.51 | jerkface03 | the current view the canvas belongs to |
| 08:17.08 | romainguy | you mean the "this" in onDraw()? |
| 08:17.14 | jerkface03 | ya |
| 08:17.23 | romainguy | yeah that won't work |
| 08:17.28 | zhobbs | jerkface03: try clipRect(0,0,canvas.getBitmapWidth,canvas.getBitmapHeight) |
| 08:17.40 | romainguy | that should work |
| 08:17.44 | romainguy | but again, don't do this :) |
| 08:18.10 | jerkface03 | wait, but the docs say that it intersects the current clip with the new clip |
| 08:18.18 | romainguy | ah |
| 08:18.19 | romainguy | good |
| 08:18.24 | romainguy | then you cannot do what you want :) |
| 08:18.33 | jerkface03 | lol |
| 08:18.51 | jerkface03 | romainguy: well, the reason i want to do it is because i want to only draw a certain portion of an image |
| 08:18.57 | jerkface03 | so i set the clip |
| 08:19.01 | jerkface03 | then i offset the image drawing |
| 08:19.16 | romainguy | you should use save()/restore() for that |
| 08:19.18 | jerkface03 | so only the portion i want shows up on the screen |
| 08:19.42 | jerkface03 | but i only want the clip, so i should do save(CLIP_SAVE_FLAG ) instead |
| 08:19.43 | jerkface03 | right? |
| 08:20.02 | jerkface03 | save(CLIP_SAVE_FLAG )/restore() i mean |
| 08:20.06 | romainguy | yep |
| 08:20.16 | jerkface03 | k, i was hoping there'd be a way to do it all in 1 call |
| 08:20.19 | jerkface03 | but i guess not |
| 08:20.20 | jerkface03 | thanks! |
| 08:20.31 | romainguy | unfortunately no |
| 08:20.40 | jerkface03 | romainguy: add it to your todo list ;) |
| 08:20.45 | zhobbs | hehe |
| 08:20.53 | romainguy | :p |
| 08:25.34 | romainguy | ok GridView works |
| 08:25.35 | romainguy | onto ListView |
| 08:28.45 | zhobbs | I don't buy this, "Up To A Dozen 'Gphone' Prototypes Expected At GSMA": http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/djf500/200802081906DOWJONESDJONLINE000833_FORTUNE5.htm |
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| 08:38.11 | zhobbs | I'm having trouble getting a listview focused so that you can make selections with the dpad...I'm calling the requestFocus() for the listview from a handler, but not working... |
| 08:39.06 | romainguy_ | are you sure it's not your selector? |
| 08:39.39 | zhobbs | I disabled the selector just to make sure |
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| 09:01.22 | romainguy | argh I broke my change @!# |
| 09:03.39 | ersi | D'oh |
| 09:06.00 | romainguy | fixed |
| 09:26.33 | jasta | hi romainguy :) |
| 09:26.40 | romainguy | hey jasta |
| 09:27.18 | jasta | i've written 2000 lines of C just today hehe :) |
| 09:27.32 | romainguy | I've written 100 lines of Java :) |
| 09:27.35 | jasta | my Android project relies heavily on a server I implemented in C. |
| 09:27.54 | romainguy | actually less than that |
| 09:27.56 | jasta | it was my way of keeping sane while working on Android. |
| 09:28.15 | romainguy | you missed pointers? |
| 09:28.22 | jasta | Yeah, C has grit. |
| 09:29.00 | jasta | I am cheating though. I'm using GLib. |
| 09:29.14 | jasta | It's hardly C anymore with GLib. |
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| 10:12.05 | davidw | jasta, what's your server in C do? |
| 10:12.16 | davidw | it's hard for me to find uses for C these days |
| 10:12.27 | jasta | manages the server portion of the meta data synchronization system. |
| 10:12.37 | jasta | and also serves content directly, of course. |
| 10:13.13 | jasta | C is very portable, and that is one of the reasons it is appropriate for this task. |
| 10:13.36 | jasta | another is that libsyncml is natively written in C, and that library is what i have chosen to use. |
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| 17:21.17 | davidw | anyone had any luck making a listview track the last item? |
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| 17:25.17 | michaelnovakjr | impressive C discussion before jasa |
| 17:35.07 | michaelnovakjr | eh, i can't say much my app server is in java :) |
| 17:35.12 | michaelnovakjr | i do love C though |
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| 18:59.34 | zhobbs | jasta: I saw above that you wrote your server in c, do you use sockets or http? |
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| 19:06.16 | cybereagle | in c is there even a difference? lol |
| 19:08.59 | davidw | different layers |
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| 19:16.34 | jasta | zhobbs: i use libsyncml, which uses soup, which is an implementation of an HTTP server. |
| 19:16.44 | jasta | which uses sockets. :) |
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| 19:45.44 | zhobbs | jasta: with your solution can the server contact the phone? Or does the phone have to poll for updates? |
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| 21:02.10 | jasta | zhobbs: The phone polls for update. The only mechanism on current mobile platforms for notification is SMS, and I do not need or want to support that. |
| 21:02.15 | jasta | updates* |
| 21:02.55 | jasta | Android of course is trying to replace that with XMPP to some degree, but I'm cautious at present. |
| 21:03.48 | jasta | If that implementation proves reliable and efficient, it will be easy to introduce support. |
| 21:05.40 | zhobbs | I just hate that android's xmpp relies on gtalk servers/accounts |
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| 21:11.26 | The_PHP_Jedi | sup legind |
| 21:12.10 | legind | hey The_PHP_Jedi |
| 21:20.07 | jasta | zhobbs: Well, there's always SMS, complete with the insane service premiums. |
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| 21:40.22 | davidw | jasta, you can send XMPP messages too |
| 21:40.28 | davidw | oops |
| 21:40.29 | davidw | yeah |
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| 23:03.28 | bishnu | just downloaded android |
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| 23:03.42 | jasta | k? |
| 23:03.51 | bishnu | can't seem to be able to resolve CLASSPATH In eclipse in ubuntu |
| 23:04.02 | jasta | Can you be more specific? |
| 23:04.17 | bishnu | I tried to create HelloAndroid project |
| 23:04.33 | jasta | Yes, and? |
| 23:04.44 | bishnu | It gives me the following error: The import android cannot be resolved |
| 23:04.53 | bishnu | I tried exporting CLASSPTH |
| 23:05.00 | bishnu | few different ways |
| 23:05.15 | bishnu | It seems like plugin error |
| 23:05.26 | xbit | did you follow the instructions and set the path to android in eclipse? |
| 23:05.28 | jasta | Did you follow the instructions on the Android install page? The Eclipse plugin needs to be configured to use android.jar. |
| 23:05.34 | bishnu | Yes |
| 23:05.42 | jasta | bishnu: Why do I not believe you? |
| 23:05.52 | bishnu | Probably I didn't do the last one |
| 23:06.13 | bishnu | How do I set the plugin to use android.jar |
| 23:06.23 | jasta | You follow the instructions. |
| 23:07.02 | bishnu | I had followed everthing till I got to a point where it says create your own project |
| 23:07.30 | jasta | Did you tell the Eclipse plugin where to find android.jar? |
| 23:07.44 | jasta | And all the other tools? |
| 23:08.11 | bishnu | yes couple of times |
| 23:08.31 | jasta | Are you sure? Just a moment you ago you seemed confused that the step was even necessary. |
| 23:08.44 | jasta | moment ago* |
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| 23:09.57 | davidw | you want the truth? You can't hhaaaaandle the truth |
| 23:10.27 | bishnu | here is the error |
| 23:10.32 | bishnu | again |
| 23:10.51 | bishnu | Could not find folder 'tools' inside SDK '/'. |
| 23:11.03 | bishnu | Please check the Android plugin's preferences |
| 23:11.25 | xbit | well can it be more obvious? |
| 23:11.33 | jasta | Please read the installation instructions carefully, like I said. |
| 23:11.34 | xbit | it says what's wrong, right there. |
| 23:12.09 | bishnu | I followed |
| 23:12.15 | jasta | bishnu: No, you did not. |
| 23:12.44 | jasta | http://code.google.com/android/intro/installing.html#installingplugin -- see #11. |
| 23:13.30 | jasta | We're sick of your lies bishnu :) |
| 23:13.56 | bishnu | that not help |
| 23:14.36 | jasta | Yes, it does. |
| 23:15.19 | xbit | gief screenshot of android preferences! |
| 23:15.55 | bishnu | i also got a call and you started going nuts i guess |
| 23:16.06 | bishnu | i had downloaded and followed from the same page |
| 23:16.08 | jasta | bishnu: The error you just pasted suggests that the Eclipse plugin is looking in "/" for your Android SDK. You almost certainly did not install it in "/", and you must specify where you did install it. |
| 23:16.35 | bishnu | I tried adding android right there where it shows that error |
| 23:16.45 | jasta | You tried what? |
| 23:16.47 | bishnu | i removed that was showing in '/' |
| 23:16.52 | jasta | What? |
| 23:17.25 | bishnu | android.jar |
| 23:17.35 | bishnu | and added again from downloaded path |
| 23:18.09 | jasta | You don't ever "add" android.jar in any direct way. You simply configure the Eclipse plugin and specify where you unpacked the SDK directory. |
| 23:18.10 | xbit | hehe...good luck.. |
| 23:18.33 | bishnu | i am not an eclipse guy nor a java guy |
| 23:18.37 | jasta | For example, I have mine in /usr/local/lib/android. |
| 23:18.37 | bishnu | just wanted to give it a try |
| 23:18.46 | bishnu | i got it now |
| 23:19.20 | jasta | Please note that permissions may be an issue, however I doubt that you have even gotten as far as to configure the plugin as the instructions explain. |
| 23:19.52 | xbit | dude, i think he just got it :) |
| 23:20.42 | jasta | It's pretty obvious to me that he is just ignoring details he doesn't understand and lying to us about them :) |
| 23:21.48 | bishnu | not ignoring. things happened like this because i'm also suddenly working in linux |
| 23:22.18 | jasta | If you didn't ignore that step, then what DID you do with it? |
| 23:22.47 | xbit | bishnu: new os, new ide, new programming language? might think about going a bit slower? ;) |
| 23:23.04 | bishnu | instruction is for Windows and Mac only |
| 23:23.10 | bishnu | not for linux |
| 23:23.19 | bishnu | there is no Window prefrences options |
| 23:23.31 | bishnu | I had to find the option some other way |
| 23:23.33 | jasta | bishnu: No, the instructions are for all platforms supported by Android. |
| 23:23.38 | xbit | bullshit |
| 23:23.57 | bishnu | figure out yourself |
| 23:24.04 | jasta | I have, long before you. |
| 23:24.13 | bishnu | not what I figure out now |
| 23:24.18 | bishnu | what is not there is not there |
| 23:24.25 | bishnu | you just assume linux has same thing as in windows |
| 23:24.33 | xbit | bishnu: so, where was the preferences hidden in eclipse on linux? |
| 23:24.38 | jasta | bishnu: The Linux version of Eclipse is the same as the Windows version. |
| 23:24.49 | jasta | I am using it right now on Ubuntu, in fact. |
| 23:24.51 | bishnu | i didn't see it |
| 23:24.57 | bishnu | I selected through properties |
| 23:25.16 | xbit | well, didn't see and "wasn't there" is to VERY different things. |
| 23:25.27 | xbit | s/to/two |
| 23:25.31 | jasta | are two? is his English rubbing off on you? :) |
| 23:25.39 | xbit | yes :p |
| 23:28.07 | bishnu | sorry. thanx. everything is there. i guess i was stupid |
| 23:28.07 | jasta | (using ant) |
| 23:29.37 | davidw | we lost R2! |
| 23:29.54 | jasta | huh? |
| 23:30.00 | davidw | "are two" |
| 23:30.10 | jasta | oh boy |
| 23:30.51 | jasta | i really wish they'd write a man page for dx. |
| 23:42.41 | jasta | i want to know what all those options do :) |
| 23:55.02 | chomchom | bishnu: Did you get your classpath error fixed? |
| 23:55.22 | bishnu | yes |
| 23:55.27 | chomchom | good good |
| 23:55.58 | chomchom | for future note, you can check the class path of a project easily in eclipse by right clicking on the project and clicking build path |
| 23:56.19 | chomchom | then you can see exactly what your JVM will have access to at runtime |
| 23:56.19 | jasta | chomchom: class path was not his problem. Stop confusinghim. |
| 23:56.25 | bishnu | just looking at the first android that got compiled |
| 23:56.44 | jasta | bishnu: FYI, a new UI is expected this month. |
| 23:56.53 | bishnu | ok |
| 23:57.51 | bishnu | it's going to take a while to learn this but seem it will be worth |
| 23:58.03 | jasta | you're pretty late to the party :) |
| 23:58.17 | bishnu | i guess |