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| 07:03.48 | zhobbs | is there a built in way to add a separator into a listview? |
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| 08:12.29 | cutmasta | mornin |
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| 13:14.27 | cutmasta | ciao |
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| 14:33.57 | mike1o | is there a list of all possible actions? |
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| 14:46.15 | sushmu | i think the list of actions are available in Intents |
| 14:48.08 | sushmu | must agree the documentation is pretty limited on the list of actions and the list of contents |
| 14:48.57 | zhobbs | There is a list on the Intent page |
| 14:49.17 | zhobbs | of static vars used for actions and a *short* description |
| 14:49.55 | sushmu | yes.. but is that the complete list? |
| 14:50.09 | zhobbs | well, you can use any string for an action |
| 14:50.42 | zhobbs | you're not limited to those listed |
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| 14:52.27 | sushmu | correct |
| 14:52.41 | sushmu | but for predefined intents we need to know |
| 14:53.17 | sushmu | zhobbs: are you done for the challenge? |
| 14:53.22 | zhobbs | I don't even know if there is anything on the other side of lots of those intents |
| 14:53.34 | zhobbs | sushmu: supposed to have it done next week |
| 14:53.40 | sushmu | great |
| 14:53.53 | sushmu | i invite you to join openintents |
| 14:53.54 | zhobbs | yeah, then moving on to the next one |
| 14:54.07 | zhobbs | yeah, I've meen monitoring openintents |
| 14:54.15 | sushmu | please join |
| 14:54.45 | sushmu | i think there's good potential |
| 14:55.12 | zhobbs | so the idea is, if I create an app that provides some type of service I can submit specs on how to form an intent to utilize the service? |
| 14:55.40 | sushmu | yeah.. sort of |
| 14:56.05 | sushmu | the base objective is to make reusable intents available open and free |
| 14:56.41 | sushmu | a free android development stack, if you will |
| 14:56.50 | zhobbs | yeah, it's a cool idea |
| 14:57.09 | sushmu | it can be the apache for android |
| 14:57.15 | sushmu | atleast that's what i think |
| 14:57.58 | sushmu | bye zhobbs.. time to go home |
| 14:58.11 | zhobbs | sushmu: cya later |
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| 16:53.41 | romainguy__ | re |
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| 17:25.23 | jasta | yawn |
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| 17:47.21 | romainguy | re |
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| 17:58.13 | jasta | yawn |
| 17:58.19 | jasta | i could do this all day :) |
| 17:58.50 | romainguy | me too :) |
| 17:59.10 | jasta | i'm about to go into a meeting that is going to suck the fun right out of my whole day |
| 18:00.03 | jasta | i have to tuck my tail and admit i overcommitted on a big project and we either need to scrap the project, or nearly double our initial deadline. |
| 18:00.17 | jasta | management is going to flip ;) |
| 18:00.45 | benley | that's why you should always at least double your time estimates :) |
| 18:01.04 | benley | and then double it again if you can get away with it |
| 18:01.19 | benley | then deliver faster than they're expecting |
| 18:01.21 | benley | and you're a hero! |
| 18:03.44 | jasta | yeah, i know the mantra |
| 18:03.47 | jasta | i thought i was doing that ;) |
| 18:04.06 | jasta | i was just not even in the right ballpark with my original idea of how much work was involved. |
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| 18:04.39 | jasta | really the problem is that i'm not the right person for this job. i'm a software engineer, and this project walked the designer line too much :) |
| 18:04.59 | jasta | but hey, good news, i just found out the meeting was rescheduled to next Friday hehe |
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| 21:00.34 | mike1o | I accidently deleted my android project :) |
| 21:01.06 | davidw | oops...sfiga:-) |
| 21:05.11 | mike1o | eheh but I found a way to recover them maybe :) |
| 21:08.25 | davidw | back up your files regularly? |
| 21:08.28 | jasta | you don't use version control? |
| 21:08.58 | jasta | i use version control even when i'm the only person working on a project, and only from one computer. |
| 21:09.05 | jasta | it's just so nice having all that delicious meta data. |
| 21:09.16 | davidw | yeah, me too |
| 21:09.30 | davidw | that's even better than backups in any case because it's far more fine-grained |
| 21:11.18 | zach_ | mike1o: you recover it? |
| 21:12.07 | mike1o | jasta, I should start using mercurial |
| 21:12.49 | mike1o | in #debian they suggested to "string /dev/hda2 > temp" |
| 21:14.08 | mike1o | zhobbs, so now I have a 4GB file with all the strings I produced in the last months :) including my java sources |
| 21:14.48 | zhobbs | doh, guess it's better than nothing |
| 21:16.29 | davidw | mike1o, or git or subversion or whatever - just pick one and use it, instead of getting involved in the silly flame wars over which one is best |
| 21:16.54 | zhobbs | and put it on a remote server |
| 21:17.11 | zhobbs | if possible |
| 21:17.30 | mike1o | davidw, after I recover from this Ill definitely take all precautions :) |
| 21:17.34 | zhobbs | my remote server is sitting next to my computer, which doesn't work if there is a fire |
| 21:18.32 | davidw | yeah, something remote is good |
| 21:18.40 | mike1o | ill put stuff on the remote server too |
| 21:18.57 | davidw | like get two external drives, and leave one with a friend/family member /at work every few weeks and swap them out |
| 21:19.34 | zhobbs | I have a colocated box I use for hosting stuff...just too lazy to work up a rsync script of some type |
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| 21:26.42 | zhobbs | romainguy_ or romainguy: how do I define a selector for an ImageButton or Button? |
| 21:26.55 | zhobbs | (in xml) |
| 21:27.46 | mike1o | id rather upload stuff via ssh |
| 21:27.53 | mike1o | to a remote server |
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| 21:33.22 | jasta | zhobbs: my remote server is in the living room, but the best part is that i frequently work on stuff after hours at work. so at any given time i at least have a recent subversion checkout offsite. |
| 21:33.48 | jasta | but really thats the best advantage of open source projects. so many great online hosting options. |
| 21:34.11 | jasta | i usually just use my local repositories until the project gets big enough to warrant somethign online |
| 21:38.02 | zhobbs | wonder if my renters insurance would pay anything for my burned down code :) |
| 21:38.24 | zhobbs | it's worth $25,000 in may at least! |
| 21:38.29 | jasta | extremely doubtful. |
| 21:38.40 | jasta | they'd know your code sucks ;) |
| 21:38.45 | zhobbs | hehe |
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| 21:39.53 | skicson | zhobbs: wrt selector for imagebutton - if you have the selector xml, just set the background drawable to point to it. |
| 21:40.09 | skicson | (that took me about a day or so to figure out :-/) |
| 21:40.58 | jerkface03 | anyone know where i can find specs on the 9patch format? |
| 21:41.04 | jerkface03 | well |
| 21:41.06 | jerkface03 | not the format |
| 21:41.14 | jerkface03 | but the documentation seems to be lacking for the NinePatch class |
| 21:41.18 | jerkface03 | i'm not too sure what to pass into chunk |
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| 21:41.50 | zhobbs | skicson: nice, thanks...I tried lot's of different made up attributes |
| 21:43.21 | zhobbs | for a ListView it's listSelector, so I was tring buttonSelector, selector, et |
| 21:43.23 | zhobbs | etc |
| 21:46.10 | skicson | jerkface: i don't know about doing it programmatically, but you can draw your own ninepatch. it's very unforgiving tho |
| 21:46.12 | jasta | just decompile the view :) |
| 21:46.34 | jerkface03 | skicson: define unforgiving? |
| 21:46.46 | jerkface03 | jasta: yes that's also an option ;) |
| 21:46.47 | romainguy | zhobbs: the same way you did before |
| 21:46.53 | romainguy | zhobbs: just set is as the background drawable |
| 21:47.49 | skicson | jerkface: i found that if I had a gradient underneath, and then tried to draw the guidelines on top of the gradient it would not work. understandable i guess, it just took me a little while to realize what was going on |
| 21:49.41 | skicson | it actually barfed in eclipse and kept the project from compiling too. |
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| 21:55.11 | benley | [seko@localhost ~] $ |
| 21:56.01 | jasta | yup. |
| 22:07.47 | jerkface03 | what are the default properties of a new paint object, does anyone know? |
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| 22:19.47 | zhobbs | jerkface03: I bet 0 for the flags |
| 22:20.27 | stifffff | any news about the new sdk? |
| 22:20.55 | zhobbs | stifffff: nope |
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| 23:30.22 | davidw | any of you guys ever use google's AuthSub? |
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| 23:47.14 | mike1o | davidw, what the hell is it? :) |
| 23:47.29 | davidw | it's some kind of authentication system |
| 23:49.19 | mike1o | ok I don't think I've used it before then |
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| 23:56.08 | zhobbs | some video of ui: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Drxj-uL1UaY |
| 23:56.10 | edcba | YouTube - Google Android chez Wind River |
| 23:56.24 | zhobbs | shows an activity selection screen when user selected a video |
| 23:56.46 | zhobbs | actually, does the current sdk have that? |
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| 23:58.53 | rwhitby | so, any videos of android prototype handsets from the 3G conference in spain? |
| 23:59.32 | zhobbs | http://www.anddev.org/viewtopic.php?p=3542#3542 |
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