| 00:16.40 | f00f- | what |
| 00:16.44 | f00f- | is the worry acsia |
| 00:20.18 | acsia | f00f-: lol |
| 00:21.12 | acsia | the thing that s worries me is when I check my watch and it says 1:20AM and I think to myself, great I have another hour or so... |
| 00:21.39 | acsia | I ve been sleeping an average of 4 hours for the last 2 weeks |
| 00:22.07 | chomchom | me too man |
| 00:22.27 | chomchom | I'm planning on sleeping after the submission |
| 00:22.55 | chomchom | It's the first time I've ever bought cans of red bull to keep in the house |
| 00:24.14 | jerkface03 | chomchom: i had a redbull binge when my finals were happening last week |
| 00:24.20 | acsia | there was an article I red on slashdot about a newspaper investigating the health of bloggers as they overwork from home and don t do much exercise... I was reading it and thought, I am working from home, I am not doing any exercise... |
| 00:24.27 | jerkface03 | went a good 60 hours with 7 hours of sleep |
| 00:25.34 | chomchom | I want to get in the habit of a little exercise again, its stimulating for your brain. Not ot mention my metabolism is starting to slow down. |
| 00:26.40 | jasta | someone should make one of those diet planner / eating guide apps for android that prevents you from lying about what and how much you've eaten by listening to you eat :) |
| 00:26.54 | jasta | you click apple and it goes "fat chance, that was a snickers" |
| 00:26.57 | acsia | :) haha |
| 00:27.17 | chomchom | HEH |
| 00:27.19 | jasta | you say "6 crackers" it says "you were eating for 5 minutes." |
| 00:27.32 | acsia | it should have been the first app as example |
| 00:28.14 | f00f- | my latest, going to sleep is 4:15 AM |
| 00:28.17 | acsia | or a android dev planer |
| 00:28.20 | f00f- | then waking up at 10 or 11 to go to work |
| 00:28.23 | f00f- | bbiab |
| 00:28.40 | jasta | f00f-: welcome to my world, but i get up at 9 for work :) |
| 00:29.20 | acsia | well I am working from home so it is hard to wake up when I do a late night, I end up starting my computer to ensure I dont have important emails and then I watch a family guy or something |
| 00:29.24 | chomchom | man, we're all feeling this pain to be no the cusp. |
| 00:29.31 | chomchom | on the cusp even. |
| 00:30.28 | acsia | there is one factor to why my productivity is better from home... |
| 00:30.33 | jasta | i can't imagine how crummy i'm going to feel if i don't win at least the qualifying round :) |
| 00:30.37 | acsia | I have much stronger and tastier coffee |
| 00:31.12 | jasta | i've decided may 4th i'm going to buy a bottle of scotch. may 5th, when they announce the winners, i'm gonna drink it either way :) |
| 00:31.37 | acsia | :) I follow you on that |
| 00:31.45 | chomchom | heh, I've really given up on the fact I could get through. |
| 00:31.49 | acsia | meeting up on IRC drunk |
| 00:32.04 | jasta | actually, if i win, i'm definitely throwing a kegger at my house :) |
| 00:32.15 | acsia | I am not that confident either especially with the new videos around |
| 00:32.21 | chomchom | It would be really nice but it doesn't take away from all the effort thats went into the app, it's made and will continue to get really good. |
| 00:32.25 | jasta | acsia: what new videos? |
| 00:32.25 | acsia | jasta: where do you live? |
| 00:32.30 | jasta | acsia: Seattle |
| 00:32.41 | chomchom | party in seattle |
| 00:32.42 | acsia | if I win, I ll buy a ticket ;) |
| 00:33.03 | jasta | chomchom: my thoughts as well. if i don't win, at least i stopped being lazy for 3 months and produced an app i want to use on my mobile. maybe that will be satisfaction enough :) |
| 00:34.05 | chomchom | Well the really cool thing is that I made mine with my girlfriend as the client |
| 00:34.17 | chomchom | so she got a bespoke piece of software :) |
| 00:34.57 | jasta | what is it? |
| 00:35.24 | chomchom | man, I'd love to say. But I may as well wait until everyone is breaking the news. It will be more fun that way |
| 00:35.37 | jjt001 | anyone know anything about jdbc and mysql |
| 00:35.40 | jjt001 | ? |
| 00:35.43 | jjt001 | i need some help |
| 00:35.57 | jjt001 | jasta: ? |
| 00:35.59 | jjt001 | anyone? |
| 00:36.03 | chomchom | what kind of help? |
| 00:36.08 | chomchom | ask don't ask to ask |
| 00:36.23 | jjt001 | chomchom: strange exception thrown |
| 00:36.24 | acsia | have you seen this: |
| 00:36.25 | acsia | http://groups.google.com/group/android-challenge/browse_thread/thread/9687dfffb684f06d |
| 00:36.58 | jasta | chomchom: what? wait until when? |
| 00:37.01 | acsia | jasta: number 5 |
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| 00:37.22 | jasta | you, but he isn't a judge ;) |
| 00:37.33 | chomchom | yeah I'll say |
| 00:37.35 | jasta | also, he's kind of a strange fellow, so i don't think he's much like the judges even :) |
| 00:37.36 | chomchom | drum roll ... |
| 00:37.47 | chomchom | I'm making an app called |
| 00:37.52 | chomchom | Running Buddy |
| 00:38.04 | chomchom | can you guess what it does? |
| 00:38.27 | romainguy___ | it makes your cell phone run? |
| 00:38.34 | jjt001 | chomchom: i'm getting an error saying ResultSet has already been closed |
| 00:38.37 | jjt001 | when it hasn't |
| 00:38.38 | jasta | chomchom: tracks battery life? :) |
| 00:39.02 | chomchom | Its a jogging application :) |
| 00:39.15 | jjt001 | chomchom: I have no calls to close on a resultSet in my code |
| 00:39.18 | acsia | that tracks your jog? |
| 00:39.22 | chomchom | yeah |
| 00:39.22 | jjt001 | chomchom: any idea? |
| 00:39.33 | chomchom | jjt001: no idea sorry |
| 00:39.51 | jjt001 | anyone else here use mysql and jdbc> |
| 00:39.53 | acsia | jjt001: is it a cursor? then you might have the activity closing it |
| 00:39.55 | chomchom | jjt001: the thread you sent was the thread about the winner predictions |
| 00:40.16 | jjt001 | chomchom: i didn't send any thread_ |
| 00:40.26 | acsia | it was me |
| 00:40.26 | jjt001 | that was acisa |
| 00:40.31 | chomchom | oh yeah sorry :) |
| 00:40.43 | acsia | jasta: I was talking about this one http://www.pocketjourney.com/androidVideo.do |
| 00:40.47 | jjt001 | acisa: it has nothing to do with android |
| 00:40.55 | jjt001 | it's basically a server for an android app |
| 00:40.59 | acsia | so why are you asking in this channel :) |
| 00:41.05 | chomchom | Yeah, Running Buddy is a jogging application to help joggers share times with their running buddys |
| 00:41.17 | jjt001 | acisa: nobody in mysql knew the answer |
| 00:41.51 | chomchom | Its not incredibly innovative but my girlfriend jogs and would like something like this so she can boast about her times and show where shes ran :) |
| 00:41.53 | acsia | sorry I am not knowledgable along those lines |
| 00:42.16 | romainguy___ | anybody from Vending machine here? |
| 00:42.20 | acsia | chomchom: you could integrate it into my app |
| 00:42.24 | chomchom | Theres a great number of people in the world with legs after all |
| 00:42.25 | acsia | coca cola? |
| 00:42.50 | romainguy___ | acsia: no, the application to download android apps |
| 00:42.59 | romainguy___ | I don't remember the name or the name of the company |
| 00:43.03 | romainguy___ | they recently announced a v2 |
| 00:43.52 | chomchom | wI take it you are making some sort of healthy app acsia? |
| 00:44.32 | acsia | chomchom: not really, I am doing a pluggable container for geo located data |
| 00:44.37 | jasta | acsia: oh, that app looks neat |
| 00:44.41 | acsia | non intrusif |
| 00:45.13 | acsia | so you define a meta data with your overlay, implement a single interface and if it is within a certain area it displays within my app |
| 00:45.38 | chomchom | Sounds interesting |
| 00:46.00 | acsia | so you can have several application doing their own location gathering and have one place where you have 'all' your location based data |
| 00:46.10 | jasta | i am irritated that ihavent been able to get this stupid feature working for days, so i haven't recorded a video of my app yet |
| 00:46.42 | jasta | fuck it, i'll just hack it and not design it correctly just to have something :) |
| 00:47.05 | acsia | I am having a lot of similar thought lately ;) |
| 00:47.59 | chomchom | acsia: well after the hand in I'll integrate it even if it's just on anothe rbranch |
| 00:48.36 | acsia | sure that would be really cool...I just have my simple app for the tests and would like to try with some others... |
| 00:48.47 | jjt001 | anyone know of any java-related irc channels |
| 00:48.47 | acsia | I ll set it up on topophilia.mobi |
| 00:48.50 | jjt001 | ?? |
| 00:48.52 | acsia | topophilia -> love of place |
| 00:49.57 | jjt001 | acsia: you |
| 00:50.05 | jjt001 | acsia: know of any java channels |
| 00:50.37 | acsia | not really sorry |
| 00:53.38 | acsia | is it possible to get the scheme from the providerInfo? |
| 00:53.44 | acsia | or Uri |
| 00:54.14 | acsia | I would expect so but from the doc it does not look like it |
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| 01:00.28 | Kraln | what's the deal with android:weight? I can't seem to use it though it's referenced in the documentation |
| 01:00.38 | romainguy___ | what do you want to do? |
| 01:01.20 | Kraln | well, I have this textbox which had a height set to "fill_parent", but it kept getting bigger than the screen, so looking at the documentation it recommends setting width and height to zero and assigning a weight |
| 01:01.36 | romainguy___ | yes, inside LinearLayout |
| 01:01.46 | Kraln | ah, so that doesn't work in a relative layout? |
| 01:02.11 | romainguy___ | nope |
| 01:02.30 | Kraln | hmm. any idea why adding text to a textbox would cause it to grow in height past "fill_parent" ? |
| 01:02.42 | Kraln | it's seriously running off the screen |
| 01:02.56 | romainguy___ | is the textview wrap_content or fill_parent? |
| 01:03.19 | jjt001 | romainguy___: do know how i can register for the ##java channel on freenode |
| 01:03.25 | romainguy___ | no idea |
| 01:03.31 | jjt001 | romainguy___: ok |
| 01:04.09 | Kraln | romainguy: it's fill_parent |
| 01:07.03 | Kraln | romainguy: http://androidchat.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/androidchat/res/layout/chat.xml |
| 01:09.06 | romainguy___ | android:layout_height="wrap_content" |
| 01:09.12 | romainguy___ | that's wrap_content, not fill_parent |
| 01:10.23 | Kraln | oh, I was just messing with it. it's fill_parent, I swear. |
| 01:10.36 | Kraln | er, yeah. |
| 01:10.40 | Kraln | the textbox "ircdisp" |
| 01:10.42 | Kraln | not the edit. |
| 01:10.44 | Kraln | it looks like, uh |
| 01:11.06 | Kraln | takes a picture |
| 01:13.15 | Kraln | http://i26.tinypic.com/rtksg2.png |
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| 01:15.59 | Kraln | as you can see, the textview with the channel text has mysteriously migrated northwords |
| 01:16.11 | Kraln | (testing... is supposed to be at the bottom) |
| 01:16.18 | acsia | Kraln: I can see that you are a family guy fan |
| 01:16.50 | romainguy___ | Kraln: there's just not enough room to display your text so the textview scrolls it upwards |
| 01:17.00 | romainguy___ | nothing crazy here |
| 01:17.09 | michaelnovakjr | what is this business about the affidavit of eligibility. |
| 01:17.11 | Kraln | scrolling upwards is fine |
| 01:17.18 | Kraln | but what's with the blank space at the bottom? |
| 01:17.31 | romainguy___ | a line return? |
| 01:17.36 | Kraln | nope. |
| 01:17.45 | Kraln | no line returns. also, android:gravity="bottom" |
| 01:18.14 | acsia | why is it that the background disappear after selecting in a listview |
| 01:18.25 | acsia | can I keep it? |
| 01:18.31 | acsia | or grid view |
| 01:18.47 | Kraln | also, I cannot seem to activate the ircdisp textview so I can scroll it |
| 01:19.12 | chomchom | ok, Im offskie. Going to take a break for two days until l the last big push. Good luck guys. |
| 01:19.27 | acsia | cherio, good luck to you to |
| 01:24.39 | acsia | in an abstract class is it possible to define 2 abstract methods and force at least one method to be implemented? |
| 01:25.53 | romainguy___ | sure |
| 01:25.58 | romainguy___ | make one method abstract :) |
| 01:26.05 | romainguy___ | abstract methods must be implemented |
| 01:26.22 | romainguy___ | but in an abstract class you can have non abstract methods |
| 01:26.25 | romainguy___ | these can be overriden |
| 01:27.00 | Kraln | romainguy: this is behaving seriously weird. |
| 01:27.12 | Kraln | it's almost like it's ignoring the gravity. |
| 01:27.15 | acsia | let say I ahve onCreate(Uri uri) and onCreate(Uri uri, Drawable d) |
| 01:27.20 | Kraln | can I post an APK? You really have to see this. |
| 01:27.27 | romainguy___ | I can't run your .apk |
| 01:27.28 | acsia | can I force at least one to be implemented? |
| 01:27.43 | romainguy___ | acsia: yes, make it abstract |
| 01:28.03 | acsia | but if I put both abstract then they will need to have both of them implemented? |
| 01:28.09 | romainguy___ | yes |
| 01:28.10 | Kraln | hmm |
| 01:28.18 | Kraln | romainguy: any way I can demonstrate what is going on? |
| 01:28.40 | romainguy___ | Kraln: you should put android:background="#FFFF0000" on your TextView |
| 01:28.46 | romainguy___ | at least you would see if it has the right dimension |
| 01:30.03 | Kraln | okay. I'll do that and post a video |
| 01:31.00 | michaelnovakjr | what is the best way to handle a table not found issue and create the table? |
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| 01:34.57 | acsia | michaelnovakjr: db you mean? |
| 01:36.42 | michaelnovakjr | haha, i actually already have the code in there, my emulator was being cranky |
| 01:37.22 | Kraln | romainguy: http://www.kraln.com/issue.swf |
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| 01:40.13 | romainguy___ | aahh |
| 01:40.14 | romainguy___ | the EditText |
| 01:40.17 | romainguy___ | that's what I said |
| 01:40.22 | romainguy___ | it's wrap_content |
| 01:40.26 | romainguy___ | you need to make it singleLine |
| 01:40.29 | romainguy___ | or horizontaly scrolling |
| 01:41.14 | Kraln | no no, not the edit text |
| 01:41.20 | Kraln | the thing below it is messed up |
| 01:41.22 | Kraln | the big red thing =p |
| 01:41.42 | Kraln | I don't mind if the edit text resizes itself, it's the main chat display moving off the screen that is so troubling |
| 01:41.53 | romainguy___ | because of the edit text... |
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| 01:42.20 | romainguy___ | you wrote: android:layout_below="@+id/ircedit" |
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| 01:42.33 | romainguy___ | that means the TextView should always stick to the EditText's bottom edge |
| 01:42.42 | romainguy___ | if the EditText grows, as in your video, the TextView is resized... |
| 01:42.59 | acsia | bed time |
| 01:44.55 | Kraln | it's not resized, though |
| 01:45.01 | Kraln | it's being pushed off the bottom of the screen |
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| 01:45.18 | romainguy___ | ***because of the EditText*** |
| 01:45.21 | Kraln | or something weird, because the text in the text view is supposed to be 'glued' to the bottom of the textview |
| 01:46.06 | Kraln | okay, new example. |
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| 01:48.47 | jerkface03 | romainguy__: any idea if you guys are plannign to showcase any of the winning submissions after the 14th? |
| 01:48.53 | jerkface03 | romainguy__: or even any of the submissions at all? |
| 01:49.04 | romainguy___ | any diea |
| 01:49.05 | romainguy___ | idea |
| 01:49.13 | jerkface03 | or is it all going to be on the hush hush? |
| 01:50.33 | Kraln | www.kraln.com/issue2.swf - also, I appreciate the help =) |
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| 01:57.58 | Kraln | romainguy: the only reason I'm sure it's not spurrious newlines is because I just added a character to every 'line' that gets added to the textview, and there's simply nothing past the last line |
| 02:03.38 | Kraln | romainguy: this is how the textview is being updated |
| 02:03.39 | Kraln | http://rafb.net/p/7MixPW22.html |
| 02:05.57 | Kraln | results in-> http://www.kraln.com/issue3.swf |
| 02:07.15 | Kraln | any ideas, anyone? |
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| 02:21.25 | michaelnovakjr | why do Nodes only read to new line when you call the getNodeValue method |
| 02:21.28 | michaelnovakjr | that is a real pain |
| 02:38.13 | zhobbs | who's doing the severe weather application? |
| 02:38.33 | michaelnovakjr | me :) |
| 02:38.35 | zhobbs | http://money.cnn.com/2008/04/09/technology/fcc_cell_phone_alert/index.htm?section=money_latest |
| 02:38.37 | michaelnovakjr | got bad news for me? |
| 02:38.46 | zhobbs | good news I guess |
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| 02:39.56 | michaelnovakjr | only bad thing is text based messages aren't all that reliable |
| 02:40.07 | Kraln | morrildl: http://www.kraln.com/issue3.swf <- any ideas? =/ |
| 02:40.16 | michaelnovakjr | just this morning i got a txt message from a week ago |
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| 02:51.14 | zhobbs | when using TabActivity, should tabs be able to do things like this.getParent().setTitle("blah") ? |
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| 02:54.29 | Kraln | I can't seem to scroll that textview, either |
| 02:54.49 | romainguy___ | put it in a scrollview |
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| 03:08.41 | zhobbs | getParent().setTitle isn't working.... |
| 03:11.55 | zhobbs | Oh wait, it does work...I'm dumb |
| 03:12.37 | michaelnovakjr | we all have those kinds of moments |
| 03:14.11 | Kraln | meh. I only hope I can get a resolution by sunday. http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=628 |
| 03:14.33 | zhobbs | hehe, good luck with that |
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| 03:24.29 | Kraln | zhobbs: it didn't use to break, but the new sdk broke it. lol |
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| 03:40.58 | michaelnovakjr | can a non UI thread redraw the layout? |
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| 03:41.55 | zhobbs | don't think so |
| 03:42.16 | michaelnovakjr | hmmm.... after calling StartService... is there a way to tell when its done? |
| 03:42.28 | zhobbs | if you bind to it |
| 03:47.03 | raidfive | if anyone is interested in a free pass to the InnoTech 2008 conference in Portland, OR pm me ... have a few remaining to give away |
| 03:47.40 | zhobbs | is there a way to repeat a background for a View (horizontally in this case)? |
| 03:48.04 | zhobbs | or do I have to make it 9 patch |
| 03:55.25 | romainguy___ | zhobbs: you can use a tile shader |
| 03:55.47 | zhobbs | romainguy___: can you do that in XML? |
| 03:56.57 | romainguy___ | no |
| 03:57.13 | zhobbs | I'll just do 9-patch |
| 03:57.53 | romainguy___ | a 9 patch won't repeat |
| 03:57.56 | romainguy___ | it will stretch |
| 03:58.12 | zhobbs | oh yeah...for this image I think that's the same |
| 03:58.17 | zhobbs | maybe not |
| 03:58.51 | zhobbs | it's just like a vertical gradient |
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| 04:27.14 | muthu | i'm getting a feeling |
| 04:27.24 | michaelnovakjr | gas? |
| 04:27.41 | muthu | if i work hard for the next 4 days, i might have a chance |
| 04:28.09 | muthu | but twitter is keeping me busy :-D |
| 04:28.17 | muthu | damn, its so addictive |
| 04:28.39 | muthu | anyone 100% sure, they win |
| 04:28.43 | muthu | ? |
| 04:28.48 | jasta | just spent an hour in the Apple store |
| 04:28.50 | jasta | i have lots of idea :) |
| 04:29.01 | jasta | muthu: no one is 100% sure, but some people are 100% arrogant :) |
| 04:29.08 | muthu | lol |
| 04:29.17 | muthu | some, may be |
| 04:29.20 | muthu | but not everyone |
| 04:29.27 | muthu | a few submissions are real cool |
| 04:29.30 | zhobbs | I'm not very confident....I wish I would have had time to do an app for myself |
| 04:29.30 | jasta | well, 100% arrogant is probably rare to come by :) |
| 04:29.56 | jasta | muthu: a lot of the submissions i have seen are not that exciting actually |
| 04:29.58 | muthu | hobbs: why, you are doing 2? |
| 04:30.14 | muthu | jasta: it needs to evolve |
| 04:30.23 | muthu | for phase 1 i wouldn't expect much |
| 04:30.27 | zhobbs | muthu: yeah, but it's contract work...I have to do what they want even if it sucks |
| 04:30.38 | muthu | does it suck? |
| 04:30.48 | zhobbs | not too bad :) |
| 04:30.48 | muthu | atleast 1 out of 2 might be good |
| 04:31.04 | muthu | my cooking show rocks! |
| 04:31.20 | zhobbs | there's advantages of course, like they have designers and they pay |
| 04:31.30 | muthu | hope the google chef judges my app yeehaaaw! |
| 04:32.00 | muthu | yeah, collaboration can do wonders |
| 04:33.35 | michaelnovakjr | how do you put an image with a menu item? |
| 04:34.19 | muthu | you send the image as an argument |
| 04:34.39 | jasta | i am really excited after scoping out an iPod :) |
| 04:34.42 | jasta | i'd never used an iPod touch before hehe |
| 04:34.59 | jasta | it helped me figure out two big UI problems, and get a clear direction of how i want to proceed :) |
| 04:35.10 | zhobbs | I just bought an iPod classic a couple days ago...they've come a long way since my 2g ipod |
| 04:35.29 | muthu | i'm waiting for android.. that's my next phone |
| 04:35.54 | zhobbs | muthu: me too |
| 04:36.18 | zhobbs | can't wait...hope I don't have to get on with some crappy provider |
| 04:36.45 | zhobbs | I'd probably just wait for unlock if possible (sprint,t-mobile phones don't have sim cards right?) |
| 04:38.45 | muthu | good, we can use our phones in india with any provider |
| 04:39.09 | muthu | only the provider sucks, the broadband plans are so expensive |
| 04:39.29 | muthu | need to check, when android comes out.. currently i'm not even bothered |
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| 04:54.20 | muthu | i love this name |
| 04:54.24 | muthu | frucall |
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| 06:17.53 | Kraln | guh |
| 06:17.58 | Kraln | this is beyond me why this is doing this. |
| 06:18.06 | jasta | why what is doing what? |
| 06:18.17 | Kraln | the textview is not behaving! |
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| 06:18.27 | Kraln | not even remotely to what it's supposed to |
| 06:18.51 | jasta | what is it doing? |
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| 06:20.16 | Kraln | ignoring gravity |
| 06:20.57 | jasta | try setting baselineAligned="false" in the wrapping linearlayout |
| 06:22.16 | davidw | 'morning |
| 06:22.27 | Kraln | nope., still being stupid |
| 06:22.30 | Kraln | want to see the .apk? |
| 06:22.35 | jasta | not realy |
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| 06:23.00 | Kraln | will you because I wvu? |
| 06:23.21 | Kraln | I am absolutely at wits end |
| 06:23.36 | jasta | im sorry, im busy |
| 06:23.59 | Kraln | :/ |
| 06:25.29 | muthu | krain: it must be the parent layouts |
| 06:25.55 | muthu | if one of your view is not working as expected, make sure the parent attributes are set correctly |
| 06:26.32 | Kraln | I tried switching to a linearlayout from a relative one |
| 06:26.38 | Kraln | I think I'm going to try making it a tablelayout |
| 06:27.01 | muthu | relative should be good |
| 06:27.10 | Kraln | http://rafb.net/p/eyHTnB43.html |
| 06:27.14 | Kraln | doesn't get much simpler than this... |
| 06:27.20 | muthu | let me see |
| 06:28.19 | zhobbs | you probably want android:layout_gravity on that TextView |
| 06:28.22 | muthu | baselinealigned |
| 06:28.27 | muthu | need the namespace |
| 06:28.52 | Kraln | zhobbs: probably, but it's being set in code too... |
| 06:29.17 | muthu | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:29.38 | muthu | gravity is fine |
| 06:29.57 | Kraln | it behaves until there are more lines than the textbox is big |
| 06:30.03 | Kraln | it properly creates the scrollbar |
| 06:30.13 | Kraln | but then for each line that it is bigger, there's a blank line at the bottom |
| 06:31.16 | zhobbs | you want the text to be at the bottom right? |
| 06:31.19 | Kraln | yes |
| 06:31.33 | Kraln | also, I can't focus the textview to scroll it for some reason |
| 06:32.52 | zhobbs | I thought it had to be in a scrollview |
| 06:33.23 | Kraln | huh? |
| 06:33.30 | Kraln | the scroll bars and everything show up... |
| 06:33.51 | zhobbs | romain said they need to be in a scrollview |
| 06:33.57 | Kraln | http://www.kraln.com/issue4.swf <- |
| 06:34.14 | Kraln | watch and you'll see exactly what I mean |
| 06:37.54 | zhobbs | strange |
| 06:43.23 | muthu | krain: you should use relative layout |
| 06:43.36 | Kraln | that video *is* relative layout |
| 06:43.42 | muthu | what? |
| 06:43.55 | muthu | when you position the textview below editview |
| 06:44.14 | muthu | set the positioning |
| 06:44.23 | Kraln | that's exactly what I did |
| 06:44.43 | muthu | your pastebin doesn't show that |
| 06:44.55 | Kraln | that's what I just recently tried |
| 06:45.04 | Kraln | video was taken when it was still relative |
| 06:47.38 | Kraln | like, even if I set the textview to a very small height, it still does that |
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| 06:54.37 | rohan | i want to set a ContentView for my class which extends ImageView |
| 06:54.45 | rohan | how can i do it |
| 06:54.56 | rohan | can anybody help me |
| 06:55.18 | jasta | a ContentView? |
| 06:55.39 | jasta | what is that? |
| 06:58.17 | Kraln | it seems that if I put it in a scrollview it gets almost what I want |
| 06:58.23 | Kraln | how do I disable the silly shading in the scrollview? |
| 06:59.54 | rohan | jasta r u there |
| 07:00.04 | rohan | i want to set a view |
| 07:00.11 | rohan | for my application |
| 07:00.29 | rohan | jasta r u there? |
| 07:00.59 | rohan | oh |
| 07:03.08 | Kraln | quite honestly it looks like textview is beyond broken |
| 07:05.52 | zhobbs | rohan: what are you trying to do? |
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| 07:11.15 | rohan | we usually write setContentView() |
| 07:11.32 | zhobbs | That sets the main view for an Activity |
| 07:11.59 | rohan | that only i'm trying to do |
| 07:12.11 | rohan | but my class extends ImageView |
| 07:12.45 | zhobbs | then you're class doesn't need to do that |
| 07:12.58 | rohan | then |
| 07:13.27 | rohan | for now my class is dysplaying the images i want to display in a slide show |
| 07:13.54 | rohan | i want to add buttons for that slide showw |
| 07:14.02 | jtoy | can someone tell me what is wrong with this aidl interface? import java.util.List; List<Long> getAlarms(); |
| 07:14.13 | jtoy | I get an error: unknown return type List<Long> |
| 07:14.26 | rohan | zhobbs r u there? |
| 07:14.49 | muthu | for a spinner, which event to handle? |
| 07:14.53 | zhobbs | jtoy: I don't think list is Parcelable |
| 07:15.08 | zhobbs | rohan: not sure what the question is |
| 07:15.12 | muthu | need to do some action, after the drop down is selected |
| 07:15.19 | rohan | zhobbs how should i sdd buttons for my slide show |
| 07:15.38 | zhobbs | muthu: don't remember, it's in the tour guide app in the tutorials section on HA |
| 07:15.44 | jtoy | the docs says this: Here are the data types that AIDL can support: List - All elements in the List must be one of the types in this list, including other AIDL-generated interfaces and parcelables. List may optionally be used as a "generic" class (e.g. List<String>). The actual concrete class that the other side will receive will always be an ArrayList, although the method will be generated to use the List interface. |
| 07:15.49 | zhobbs | rohan: ImageButtons or Buttons |
| 07:16.02 | zhobbs | jtoy: ahh, cool |
| 07:16.30 | jtoy | does anyone know what I am doing wrong then? |
| 07:16.33 | rohan | ya but for that i need to specify findViewById() |
| 07:16.38 | rohan | for that buttons |
| 07:16.39 | zhobbs | jtoy: I remember a bug on that |
| 07:16.47 | zhobbs | rohan: the id of the button? |
| 07:17.02 | rohan | ya but it is in xml file |
| 07:17.16 | rohan | how to refer to that xml file then? |
| 07:18.29 | jtoy | hmm, changin it to jsut Long getAlarm(); fails saying unknown return type Long |
| 07:18.39 | zhobbs | oh yeah, it's long |
| 07:18.46 | jtoy | isn't Long imported by default? |
| 07:18.56 | zhobbs | use long instead of Long |
| 07:19.07 | rohan | zhobbs can u help me |
| 07:19.17 | rohan | how to refer to the xml file |
| 07:19.26 | rohan | to find the button id |
| 07:19.35 | jtoy | zhobbs: I had tried that, but then I got another error saying in code saying that I cant make lists with primitaves, is that true? |
| 07:19.39 | zhobbs | what is the xml file? The layout for the activity? |
| 07:19.52 | zhobbs | jtoy: Ahh, didn't know that either |
| 07:20.08 | rohan | ya |
| 07:20.13 | rohan | the layout |
| 07:20.28 | zhobbs | maybe aidl doesn't recognize the Long class |
| 07:20.42 | jtoy | i think so anyway, the exact error is: found : long required: reference |
| 07:20.55 | zhobbs | rohan: so just do findViewById(int id) in your activity |
| 07:21.16 | rohan | but my class extends ImageView |
| 07:21.37 | rohan | how to set the ContentView in that |
| 07:21.43 | zhobbs | you don't |
| 07:21.51 | rohan | then |
| 07:22.02 | zhobbs | imageview can't have children |
| 07:22.06 | rohan | ok |
| 07:22.11 | rohan | then what shall i do |
| 07:22.23 | rohan | ok |
| 07:22.32 | rohan | can i just mail u my code |
| 07:22.40 | zhobbs | sorry, don't have time |
| 07:22.45 | rohan | ok |
| 07:22.46 | zhobbs | maybe I could take a look next week |
| 07:22.53 | rohan | then just tell what shall i do |
| 07:23.21 | zhobbs | read the docs, go through some tutorials |
| 07:23.26 | rohan | ok |
| 07:23.34 | rohan | one more ques |
| 07:23.57 | rohan | how can i access any file on my computer for my application |
| 07:24.23 | zhobbs | you can't...you can include files in your package is the assets folder and access them thatway |
| 07:24.39 | rohan | ok |
| 07:24.45 | zhobbs | s/ is / in / |
| 07:25.17 | rohan | ok |
| 07:25.44 | rohan | so my application needs some photos from my computer |
| 07:25.58 | zhobbs | res/drawable would be the best place for those |
| 07:26.09 | rohan | no i have done that |
| 07:26.52 | rohan | but my application downloads photos from the server ,so at that time where to store those photos and how? |
| 07:28.04 | Kraln | ugh |
| 07:28.08 | Kraln | I've got an ugly hack working |
| 07:28.18 | Kraln | pisses me off that I have to resort to this when it worked like it should have in previous releases |
| 07:28.24 | rohan | infobot:can u tell me |
| 07:29.03 | rohan | but my application downloads photos from the server ,so at that time where to store those photos and how? |
| 07:29.20 | zhobbs | rohan: did you look at the docs? |
| 07:29.58 | zhobbs | there are some functions to access the filesystem in the ApplicationContext class |
| 07:30.14 | rohan | ok so i need to look at storing and retrevial of data |
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| 07:55.09 | jtoy | im having a hard time, can anyone show me how to ahve a list of Long or any object returned in an aidl file? |
| 07:56.31 | jasta | List foo(); // don't use generics |
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| 08:01.41 | jtoy | im still learning java, does that mean use primitives? |
| 08:02.14 | jasta | no, primitves are types like int and long; those that do not instantiate from classes. |
| 08:02.40 | jasta | generics are a new feature in 1.5 that allow you to specify the type contained within generalized classes, like List<String> |
| 08:03.26 | jasta | Android supports this through AIDL, however, it does not correctly support generics when used with the promoted object primitives (Long, Integer, etc) |
| 08:03.45 | jasta | so List<Long> is not legal for that reason. Use List instead; this is the old, non-generics approach. |
| 08:04.29 | jasta | It lacks type-safety, but that is irrelevant here. |
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| 08:06.05 | jtoy | ok, that seems to work |
| 08:06.41 | jasta | now, you will be required to perform a cast when accessing the list. This is the evil that was avoided with generics, but in this case you can't use them. |
| 08:07.47 | jtoy | how do I cast a list? |
| 08:08.12 | jasta | i meant when accessing elements contained within it, such as with list.get |
| 08:08.12 | jtoy | if I am using Long everywhere, I still need to cast it? |
| 08:08.21 | jasta | but you'll know that a cast is required, because your code will refuse to compile without. |
| 08:08.30 | jtoy | ok, cool |
| 08:08.38 | jasta | jtoy: You should really take some time out to learn Java before you work too much on Android :) |
| 08:08.57 | jtoy | jasta: true, i did write a couple of crappy apps already though :) |
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| 08:11.39 | jtoy | can you do any metaprogramming in java? |
| 08:11.46 | jasta | how do you mean? |
| 08:11.46 | jtoy | seems like not really |
| 08:11.58 | jtoy | unless with scala/jruby/groovy |
| 08:12.08 | jasta | that depends what you mean |
| 08:12.28 | jasta | oh, that ;) |
| 08:12.44 | jtoy | for example object.eval ('method_name') or if class.name == 'Blah' run this method |
| 08:13.09 | muthu | jtoy: java has reflection |
| 08:13.13 | muthu | dynamic proxies |
| 08:13.16 | muthu | aop et al |
| 08:13.22 | jasta | Java has a concept called Reflection that offers inspection of class meta data. |
| 08:14.00 | jasta | However, a wise programmer would avoid its usage where possible. |
| 08:14.11 | mickrobk | jtoy: watch out though, reflection, especially in a non-JITed (like Dalvik) is slow as fuck |
| 08:14.18 | jasta | It's clumsy to abuse, and has performance concerns. |
| 08:14.30 | jtoy | right, i do avoid it where possible, but repeating writing repetitive code sucks |
| 08:14.34 | muthu | jasta: which event to handle in a spinner, to do an action after the item is selected? |
| 08:14.41 | muthu | any ideas? |
| 08:14.48 | jasta | dunno, never looked at that class |
| 08:14.53 | muthu | zhobbs: you said something about it? |
| 08:15.07 | muthu | oh ok tour guide app |
| 08:15.12 | muthu | let me look at it in HA |
| 08:15.13 | jtoy | this question is unrelated, but can you pull data from sqlite3 without passing a context around? |
| 08:15.40 | duey | avoid reflection on android at least.. |
| 08:15.46 | duey | it has some cool uses |
| 08:16.01 | mickrobk | jtoy: you might have a look at AspectJ |
| 08:16.23 | jtoy | as in not do contextInstance.openDatabase ? |
| 08:16.32 | mickrobk | theres a few other code generators, or u can use another language that targets the JVM |
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| 08:17.44 | jtoy | I would like to use scala on android, but currently the binaries are too big |
| 08:20.36 | jasta | alright, time to retire for the night |
| 08:20.44 | jasta | got a *LOT* done :) |
| 08:20.47 | jasta | my app is starting to look really sexy now |
| 08:20.52 | muthu | wow |
| 08:20.59 | muthu | cool |
| 08:21.02 | muthu | good night jasta |
| 08:21.33 | muthu | you are working hard lately |
| 08:23.07 | jasta | yes, well, i'm doing UI stuff now and that is not my strong suit |
| 08:23.27 | jasta | the first month and a half of the challenge i had only one Activity in my app with just a few text labels and a button |
| 08:23.52 | jasta | the sync engine was tricky to get righ t;) |
| 08:26.54 | jtoy | i have a sync engine too! |
| 08:26.57 | jtoy | but mine sucks |
| 08:28.43 | davidw | ui stuff is the bane of my existence |
| 08:30.17 | muthu | UI sucks - +1. |
| 08:31.07 | davidw | when I'm in charge, users will be required to learn to use command line stuff |
| 08:31.47 | davidw | that would be cool... replace the built in stuff in android with a command line system:-) |
| 08:32.09 | davidw | 'mutt' for sms's |
| 08:32.16 | muthu | david: command line in mobile would be insane |
| 08:33.28 | davidw | muthu, well, I don't mean seriously, but as a 'cool hack' |
| 08:33.42 | muthu | yeah i know |
| 08:33.50 | muthu | for hackers |
| 08:33.55 | muthu | it would be cool. |
| 08:34.05 | zhobbs | bluetooth keyboard would help |
| 08:34.25 | zhobbs | but, most command line on the phone will probably be via ssh |
| 08:35.41 | jtoy | what is the difference between local and remote service binding? |
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| 09:05.43 | acsia | morning |
| 09:08.10 | muthu | afternoon |
| 09:08.41 | muthu | in chennai |
| 09:08.49 | muthu | acsia: where you from? |
| 09:09.00 | acsia | uk |
| 09:09.30 | muthu | cool |
| 09:09.40 | muthu | how's the weather? |
| 09:09.42 | acsia | well it is raining all the time |
| 09:09.47 | acsia | today actually is very nice |
| 09:09.52 | muthu | great |
| 09:09.56 | acsia | I am not british, I ve been living here for 3 years now |
| 09:10.06 | muthu | then where you from? |
| 09:10.10 | acsia | I am from the south of France |
| 09:10.15 | muthu | ok |
| 09:10.28 | acsia | how bout chennai, how s the weather there? |
| 09:10.38 | muthu | its always hot |
| 09:10.46 | acsia | :) |
| 09:10.51 | muthu | but weird weather conditions these days |
| 09:10.54 | acsia | I would need that after the challenge finishes |
| 09:11.06 | muthu | me too |
| 09:11.13 | muthu | i'm going somewhere cooler ;) |
| 09:11.34 | acsia | we could exchange apartment for a week or so :) |
| 09:11.39 | muthu | lol |
| 09:11.44 | muthu | i had the same thought |
| 09:11.56 | muthu | wow, human brains are the same i guess |
| 09:12.58 | davidw | delicious braaaaaiiinsss |
| 09:13.23 | davidw | south of france sounds nice |
| 09:14.02 | muthu | david i know you are in france |
| 09:15.37 | acsia | south of france is the best |
| 09:15.42 | acsia | especially Antibes |
| 09:15.53 | acsia | or Juan les pins |
| 09:16.06 | acsia | but not for now... it s for when you are old or something |
| 09:16.17 | acsia | you don t want to do anything, just take it easy |
| 09:16.49 | muthu | oh the retirement town |
| 09:16.54 | muthu | i want to visit france |
| 09:16.59 | muthu | in my travel agenda |
| 09:17.25 | acsia | I am not french myself but was born and lived there most of my life |
| 09:17.35 | acsia | orginially I am half swedish and half maroccan |
| 09:17.35 | davidw | ah, where're you from? |
| 09:17.49 | acsia | but I feel French more then anything |
| 09:17.53 | davidw | muthu, I'm in Innsbruck actually |
| 09:18.09 | acsia | you know, I smell of garlic, I am arrogant etc... |
| 09:18.40 | muthu | lol |
| 09:19.07 | muthu | the beauty of culture |
| 09:19.11 | acsia | davidw: how's Ilenia? :) |
| 09:19.16 | davidw | fine |
| 09:19.26 | acsia | I landed on your page |
| 09:19.29 | muthu | is there anything like "open culture" |
| 09:19.45 | muthu | david: you feel, you'll win? |
| 09:19.49 | muthu | acsia: same question/ |
| 09:20.13 | zhobbs | muthu: you going to win? |
| 09:20.17 | muthu | yes. |
| 09:20.23 | zhobbs | nice |
| 09:20.30 | muthu | ah that's the arrogance ;) |
| 09:20.47 | muthu | as i said, mine is a cooking app |
| 09:20.52 | muthu | very simple, but useful |
| 09:20.56 | acsia | I might have a chance if I show off a bit |
| 09:21.08 | davidw | who knows, I think they'll either like the idea a lot or dislike it because it's not an end-user app |
| 09:21.19 | muthu | right |
| 09:21.36 | muthu | i would like to think i win |
| 09:21.41 | acsia | what s your plans after the challende? |
| 09:21.54 | muthu | work on my mobile search engine. |
| 09:22.10 | muthu | for the challenge, i'm working with a partner |
| 09:22.18 | muthu | the cooking show is his trademark |
| 09:22.33 | muthu | i went for collaboration for ADC |
| 09:22.43 | muthu | if it adds any value.. i was always looking for some team |
| 09:22.54 | zhobbs | muthu: you going to release the app soon? |
| 09:23.04 | muthu | search engine is in june |
| 09:23.05 | acsia | I really want to get into the mobile world |
| 09:23.13 | acsia | this is on my free time |
| 09:23.23 | muthu | we are fully into the mobile world |
| 09:23.44 | muthu | and now there's focus, there's goals |
| 09:23.48 | acsia | I am might try to apply for google :D I saw they are looking for mobile developer in london |
| 09:24.02 | acsia | muthu do you have a link? |
| 09:24.13 | muthu | a lot of people are using ADC as a way of getting into google |
| 09:24.15 | muthu | which is good |
| 09:24.19 | zhobbs | I had a phone interview for a job at YouTube...they called up with an 8 question test |
| 09:24.23 | muthu | http://mobeegal.in |
| 09:24.34 | zhobbs | all CS, algorithm type of questions...I got worked |
| 09:24.37 | muthu | its a 1 page site, which tells you what i said here |
| 09:24.56 | muthu | you selected? |
| 09:24.59 | acsia | nothin much yet |
| 09:25.00 | muthu | zhobbs? |
| 09:25.08 | zhobbs | I just hack code together...my education is in engineering not programming |
| 09:25.16 | muthu | acsia: v1.0 for june |
| 09:25.21 | zhobbs | no, didn't get the job |
| 09:25.39 | acsia | if I can suggest 2 books: programming collective intelligence and beautiful code |
| 09:25.39 | muthu | i've done poor interview over the course of my job career |
| 09:25.52 | acsia | both are very good regarding code as type of poetry |
| 09:26.01 | muthu | between jobs, i tend to lose interest |
| 09:26.04 | zhobbs | I'm getting out of programming, start a new job the 21st |
| 09:26.13 | acsia | in what? |
| 09:26.14 | zhobbs | designing control systems |
| 09:26.26 | zhobbs | so might be some programming, but more hardware |
| 09:26.26 | acsia | zhobbs: where are you located? |
| 09:26.32 | muthu | i'm already out of programming, i just run a company now ;) |
| 09:26.38 | zhobbs | Orlando, FL USA |
| 09:26.40 | muthu | ADC will be last coding adventure |
| 09:26.58 | muthu | zhobbs: why not get into mobile? |
| 09:27.14 | zhobbs | I like hardware |
| 09:27.17 | acsia | zhobbs: I lived in melbourne FL |
| 09:27.22 | muthu | get into mobile hardware.. |
| 09:27.26 | acsia | for 2 years |
| 09:27.34 | zhobbs | acsia: that's cool, I'm moving to Cape Canaveral next weekend |
| 09:27.42 | zhobbs | muthu: yeah, that would be cool |
| 09:27.57 | muthu | zhobbs: get into the future |
| 09:28.02 | acsia | zhobbs: I had a uni class at Cape Canaveral building a meteorological balloon |
| 09:28.18 | zhobbs | muthu: this upcoming job is my first engineering job (just graduated in december)...so gotta get some experience |
| 09:28.33 | muthu | man.. you are that young! |
| 09:28.40 | zhobbs | 24 |
| 09:28.47 | muthu | lot of maturity, zhobbs |
| 09:28.53 | muthu | you'll do good |
| 09:28.56 | zhobbs | acsia: that's cool, what's your background? |
| 09:29.05 | acsia | CS |
| 09:29.23 | acsia | I studied in Sophia Antipolis in France and did a 2 years exchange at FIT |
| 09:29.31 | muthu | zhobbs: get into what you want early. |
| 09:29.37 | muthu | don't wait. |
| 09:29.51 | zhobbs | muthu: I'm excited about doing control systems |
| 09:29.58 | muthu | cool |
| 09:30.13 | zhobbs | controlling big expensive machinery sounds like fun |
| 09:30.30 | zhobbs | and I think there's a good market for consulting after a while |
| 09:30.31 | muthu | controlling small inexpensive mobile might be more fun :) |
| 09:30.48 | zhobbs | that'd be cool too |
| 09:31.02 | zhobbs | acsia: My friend's dad teaches at FIT |
| 09:31.09 | muthu | zhobbs: if i were you, i'll look at google |
| 09:31.11 | zhobbs | small world |
| 09:31.13 | acsia | what s his name? |
| 09:31.17 | acsia | yes very small |
| 09:31.29 | acsia | I graduated in 2004 |
| 09:31.34 | zhobbs | acsia: last name Venuto...not sure his first |
| 09:31.45 | muthu | now i know why i'm not able to compete with you folks |
| 09:31.50 | zhobbs | think he did like enviromental engineering or something |
| 09:31.51 | muthu | all young and fast |
| 09:31.54 | muthu | i'm 36 btw |
| 09:32.09 | acsia | does not ring a bell |
| 09:32.17 | acsia | I am 26 :) |
| 09:32.31 | acsia | I went to the london meetup for android |
| 09:32.38 | muthu | hows't? |
| 09:32.49 | acsia | most people were between 35 and 50 |
| 09:32.55 | acsia | well we were 8 |
| 09:33.08 | muthu | 35 - 50 is the confused lot |
| 09:33.12 | acsia | haha |
| 09:33.22 | acsia | well none knew anything about android whihc I thought strange |
| 09:33.30 | muthu | yeah, by now we should have made it |
| 09:33.30 | muthu | if not, we attend meetup |
| 09:33.35 | acsia | they were all excited about it |
| 09:33.35 | muthu | lol |
| 09:33.44 | acsia | but did not know anything about it |
| 09:33.51 | zhobbs | I'd like to go to Google I/O |
| 09:34.25 | acsia | me to! |
| 09:34.29 | zhobbs | got an invite from Google, but can't take off work |
| 09:34.33 | acsia | but I am poor and far away |
| 09:35.19 | zhobbs | yeah that's a long trip |
| 09:35.22 | davidw | yeah, sounds like fun, but not spend a bundle to travel halfway around the world fun |
| 09:35.54 | davidw | is starting to think about going back to california.... |
| 09:37.54 | muthu | i'm planning for a visit to SF this year |
| 09:38.09 | muthu | if i win, i go for sure |
| 09:40.08 | acsia | do you know the usage of PanelMenu? |
| 09:40.26 | acsia | I am trying to find view demo of differente menus but can't find any |
| 09:40.28 | muthu | panelmenu? |
| 09:40.41 | acsia | well there is a onCreatePanelMenu in the activity |
| 09:40.51 | muthu | i'm using the default menu |
| 09:41.06 | acsia | hum... |
| 09:41.21 | zhobbs | yeah, never heard of the PanelMenu |
| 09:42.06 | acsia | ok I need to pass a menu between objects... |
| 09:42.12 | acsia | I am not sure what type of menu |
| 09:42.41 | acsia | I would need some kind of demo I could check menu against |
| 09:42.56 | acsia | or implement all of them and check the difference :) |
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| 09:44.10 | muthu | its in apidemos |
| 09:44.13 | muthu | from the sdk |
| 09:45.42 | davidw | living in europe is much nicer than california |
| 09:45.42 | acsia | where? |
| 09:45.49 | jtoy | can someone explain to me what IRemoteServiceCallback is in the aidl examples? |
| 09:45.50 | davidw | but everything is kind of.... static ... |
| 09:45.50 | acsia | I love europe |
| 09:46.06 | jtoy | it doesnt talk about that anywhere in the docs, its just a class that appears out of nowhere it seems |
| 09:46.24 | zhobbs | jtoy: an example of an asynchronous interface to use with AIDL |
| 09:46.28 | acsia | muthu: I can not see menu demo in the apidemos |
| 09:47.37 | muthu | the menu is part of the notepad |
| 09:47.56 | jtoy | so how do I make that class? is it something generated from aidl? the docs here dont explain it at all : http://code.google.com/android/reference/aidl.html |
| 09:48.36 | acsia | davidw: if you are looking for a type of silicon valley in Europe, you should check Sophia Antipolis... |
| 09:48.41 | zhobbs | jtoy: take a look at jasta's example: http://devtcg.blogspot.com/2008_01_01_archive.html |
| 09:49.03 | acsia | it s on the french riviera, has nearly all high tech companies, helps startups etc... biggest technopole in europe |
| 09:49.10 | zhobbs | davidw: what do you mean it's static? |
| 09:49.11 | acsia | I studied there and it is really cool |
| 09:49.41 | jtoy | zhobbs: i will read the source |
| 09:49.48 | muthu | the problem is, wherever you live it becomes static after a while |
| 09:50.17 | acsia | they have laws like 70% of your domain must be nature and no building can be taller then the trees so it is like worknig in a big forest but there are like 300k people going in and out every day |
| 09:50.29 | jtoy | zhobbs: do i need to add the servicecallback if all I want is to get a message back from a method that i call from a remote service? |
| 09:50.29 | muthu | wow sounds cool |
| 09:51.08 | zhobbs | jtoy: well, it might be nice if it takes a long time to do the processing to get that message |
| 09:51.31 | zhobbs | jtoy: but if you're just getting a variable or something then don't worry about it |
| 09:51.59 | jtoy | zhobbs, hmm, is there a full example you know of i can follow online then? |
| 09:52.58 | davidw | zhobbs, a lot of countries really aim to have a situation where no one rocks the boat |
| 09:53.15 | davidw | zhobbs, creating an LLC in the US is on the order of magnitude of $100 |
| 09:53.22 | davidw | (I paid $55 in Oregon) |
| 09:53.45 | davidw | in Italy, an SrL costs something like 5000 Euros just to set up, and you have to put about 10,000 euros of capital into it |
| 09:53.46 | acsia | davidw: in britain is 1 pound |
| 09:53.58 | acsia | I created my web design company when I was 17 here |
| 09:54.19 | acsia | then lost interest when I was 18 :) |
| 09:54.27 | acsia | but a couple of tousands in between |
| 09:55.41 | muthu | davidw: and don't even talk about india |
| 09:55.53 | muthu | they make you run through pillar to post |
| 09:56.26 | muthu | acsia: you can start again |
| 09:58.58 | acsia | muthu: will defintely do if I get something out of the ADC |
| 09:59.09 | acsia | we could join forces |
| 09:59.14 | muthu | yeah sure |
| 09:59.38 | muthu | acsia: are you good at writing articles |
| 09:59.52 | muthu | what do you like? |
| 10:00.34 | acsia | muthu: I am going to write article for informit.com regardin android |
| 10:00.48 | muthu | great |
| 10:00.55 | acsia | I have never done it before so we will see if I like it or not :) |
| 10:01.04 | muthu | let me know |
| 10:01.08 | muthu | when it comes out |
| 10:01.10 | acsia | sure why you asking? |
| 10:01.23 | muthu | you can write for an android site |
| 10:01.44 | acsia | yes I intend to |
| 10:01.44 | muthu | if you are interested |
| 10:02.03 | muthu | talk to zhobbs |
| 10:02.07 | acsia | to be honnest, I have been working a lot on my android project + I am currently moving position within my company |
| 10:02.21 | acsia | well I wrote some stuff in anddev.org |
| 10:02.33 | acsia | at its beginning |
| 10:02.40 | muthu | ok |
| 10:02.48 | muthu | if you are interested, write for helloandroid |
| 10:03.24 | acsia | sure as soon as I have some time on me |
| 10:03.31 | muthu | ok |
| 10:03.48 | acsia | I am also handling androforge.net |
| 10:04.04 | muthu | great |
| 10:04.04 | acsia | 120 dll for MySpot |
| 10:04.51 | acsia | well I have not seen any other proejcts then the ones that I put there.... |
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| 10:05.06 | muthu | you need to market it |
| 10:05.14 | acsia | some registered but I would like to see the OSS grow within android |
| 10:05.18 | acsia | I know |
| 10:05.51 | acsia | I am just a bit unsure about my VPS so for the moment I am putting my effort on android and then I might begin to market it |
| 10:06.19 | muthu | ok |
| 10:09.36 | acsia | do you know why the background of a list disappear after it has been selected? |
| 10:22.23 | muthu | the selected item shows the hilite color |
| 10:25.28 | zhobbs | acsia: let me know if you ever want to get in involved with helloandroid.com for any reason...we're recruiting :) |
| 10:26.38 | zhobbs | acsia: writing, posting news, backend, whatever |
| 10:28.02 | acsia | zhobbs: sure, as I said now might not be the best time but within the next week I could gladly contribute |
| 10:28.24 | acsia | has anybody put some easter egg in their software? |
| 10:28.32 | zhobbs | completely understandable about time right now |
| 10:28.44 | zhobbs | (considering is 6:30 AM and I'm still up) |
| 10:28.58 | acsia | lol |
| 10:29.00 | muthu | good morning zhobbs: sleep well ;) |
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| 10:29.11 | acsia | yea I stayed up till 4 yesterday and could not sleep due to my coffee intake |
| 10:29.34 | zhobbs | well now that I'm done with my android stuff I can get started on my normal work |
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| 11:01.13 | davidw | oh my: Apache goes web 2.0: http://www.apache.org/ |
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| 11:07.01 | acsia | which is best for a pop up menu? |
| 11:07.27 | acsia | davidw hum... not sure i like it... yet |
| 11:07.58 | Hai-Fai | "popup menu"? showAlert? |
| 11:08.38 | acsia | is there anything else then showAlert? |
| 11:10.29 | acsia | I guess I need to create my own dialog interface... don t really have time for that |
| 11:10.40 | Hai-Fai | well it's not that hard.. |
| 11:11.00 | Hai-Fai | couple of lines of code and few graphics and tadaa =) |
| 11:11.14 | Hai-Fai | but now I have to be going, good luck |
| 11:20.06 | muthu | woah apache |
| 11:40.22 | acsia | has anybody an example of context menu |
| 11:46.39 | dpino | there is an example of populateContextMenu in ExpamdableList example in the ApiDemos |
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| 11:53.39 | acsia | does it only work on expandableList? |
| 11:56.26 | zhobbs | acsia: no, works on any list |
| 11:56.43 | zhobbs | might actually work on other view types as well |
| 12:01.09 | acsia | hum... |
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| 12:07.03 | acsia | ok strange, eclipse did not give me the option on a gallery and now it works |
| 12:07.10 | acsia | after importing it... |
| 12:18.11 | suls | what's the best strategy to unit test android code? |
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| 12:23.39 | suls | is there some kind of standard way to mock the context outside of the emulator? |
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| 12:24.55 | zhobbs | Opera Mini released for android: http://www.helloandroid.com/node/362 |
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| 12:38.10 | muthu | zhobbs: cool, keep the news coming |
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| 12:49.13 | acsia | you know what I really dislike on my company's computer |
| 12:49.35 | acsia | not the fact that it is windows but the freaking anti virus that starts at 12 and finishes at 17 |
| 12:49.46 | acsia | you can snooze it 2 times and after it does not let you |
| 12:50.03 | acsia | I just do a hard reboot to teach my computer how to respect my authority |
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| 12:52.05 | acsia | I was expecting at least 1 lol out of this... |
| 12:52.10 | acsia | I have no friends :( |
| 12:52.34 | zhobbs | lol <- at you not having friends :) |
| 12:52.59 | acsia | :) |
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| 13:25.49 | acsia | any known issue with onLongClickListener? |
| 13:25.57 | acsia | against a gallery |
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| 13:44.32 | dpino | acsia, what do you mean? |
| 13:47.45 | acsia | well the onClick works but not the onLongClick |
| 13:47.54 | acsia | dpino: on the same gallery |
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| 13:49.18 | dpino | I think your activity has to implement onLongClickListener, right? |
| 13:49.52 | dpino | http://code.google.com/android/reference/android/view/View.OnLongClickListener.html |
| 13:50.05 | dpino | otherwise the event never comes up |
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| 14:07.21 | acsia | No I have it implemented |
| 14:07.41 | acsia | dpino: I have View.OnClickListener implemented the same |
| 14:07.43 | acsia | way |
| 14:07.52 | acsia | maybe it it because of that let me check |
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| 14:11.55 | acsia | onLongClick does not seem to work with gallery |
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| 14:44.49 | michaelnovakjr_ | howdy |
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| 14:48.15 | acsia | hi |
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| 14:49.51 | LaptopZZ | hi |
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| 14:57.35 | suls | are there any documents available on how a android app will get installed on the actual mobile? |
| 14:58.00 | suls | will it be possible to download an apk and install it? |
| 14:58.20 | davidw | you'll have to type in the binary by hand |
| 14:58.39 | benley | with toggleswitches |
| 14:58.41 | davidw | or rather, type in the source code, out of magazines like Byte |
| 14:59.01 | B0jangles | lol |
| 14:59.20 | B0jangles | I'm glad I'm not the only one who remembers typing in .com files |
| 14:59.30 | B0jangles | to get some random utility |
| 14:59.39 | benley | with debug.com |
| 15:03.14 | edcba | maybe android mobiles will be equipped with punchcard readers |
| 15:03.55 | B0jangles | If the handsets are the same size as the emulator, there will certainly be enough room for a punchcard ;-) |
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| 16:10.18 | michaelnovakjr_ | its quiet ... figured there would be loads of people with questions like... help me write my application in two days! |
| 16:13.00 | acsia | can you do that michaelnovakjr? |
| 16:13.10 | acsia | help me finish my app in 2 days :) |
| 16:14.55 | michaelnovakjr_ | sure... :) |
| 16:15.15 | michaelnovakjr_ | its always good to start two days before the deadline |
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| 16:29.23 | jobu | anyone know if android can be put on a nokia n800? i saw posts for n810, just curious |
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| 18:26.33 | acsia | in the api demo, does the expandableList menu work? |
| 18:26.50 | acsia | I think I am going crazy, I am pretty sure it used to work before |
| 18:26.58 | acsia | but now when I click nothing happen, no toast |
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| 18:30.11 | muthu | it works |
| 18:30.14 | muthu | in the api demo |
| 18:30.29 | acsia | I am pretty sure it used to work |
| 18:30.39 | acsia | I might need a wipe-data |
| 18:30.56 | acsia | I click on the list of child and no popup... |
| 18:32.25 | acsia | can you just confirm muthu -> Expandable -> Custom adapter -> you click and a popup appear |
| 18:34.20 | muthu | let me try |
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| 18:39.07 | muthu | no popups |
| 18:39.09 | muthu | only expands |
| 18:39.25 | acsia | a |
| 18:39.38 | acsia | isnt it suppose to popup? |
| 18:39.42 | acsia | refering to http://code.google.com/android/samples/ApiDemos/src/com/google/android/samples/view/ExpandableList1.html |
| 18:40.00 | acsia | I might look at the wrong one but the names are the same... |
| 18:40.34 | acsia | I am very confused but it could be the lack of sleep |
| 18:41.26 | muthu | what popup? |
| 18:41.34 | muthu | when you click the list, it expands |
| 18:41.52 | acsia | Toast.makeText(this, title + ": Child " + childPos + " clicked in group " + groupPos, |
| 18:41.52 | acsia | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:42.00 | acsia | from the java code |
| 18:42.09 | acsia | that should show a popup? |
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| 18:42.56 | rhett | hey androiders |
| 18:43.04 | rhett | does anyone know how to use the frame layout in a dialog? |
| 18:43.08 | acsia | hey rhett |
| 18:43.15 | rhett | I want to put an edittext in there |
| 18:43.18 | muthu | oh the toast |
| 18:43.29 | muthu | acsia: the toast might not show sometimes |
| 18:43.45 | acsia | aha when woudl it show? |
| 18:44.19 | acsia | do you know? I am having trouble with this as I have a log.i and I can not on the onCreateContext and it does not seem to be called... |
| 18:45.23 | muthu | i've noticed it sometimes |
| 18:45.31 | muthu | not sure why |
| 18:45.58 | acsia | hum... |
| 18:46.01 | acsia | rhet |
| 18:46.17 | acsia | rhett: are you looking for frame layout or any layout |
| 18:46.40 | acsia | muthu: do you think it could the the on* and not the toast? |
| 18:47.20 | rhett | I don't know, I just want a text field to show up in a dialog |
| 18:47.33 | rhett | and an ok button to enter a password |
| 18:47.42 | acsia | you can check out this code thta I did for M3 but works in M5 |
| 18:47.42 | acsia | http://androforge.net/gf/project/androlib/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fsrc%2Fnet%2Fandroforge%2Fwidget%2FLocationDialog.java&view=markup |
| 18:47.59 | acsia | it is a dialog box with a spinner but you probably can easily change it to a editbox |
| 18:48.37 | muthu | acsia: try changing the toast to a dialog |
| 18:48.42 | rhett | thanks acsia |
| 18:49.13 | acsia | np |
| 18:49.39 | acsia | muthu: well I have a Log.i which doesn't appear |
| 18:49.59 | acsia | I ll look into this further, just wanted to double check with the api demos |
| 18:50.06 | muthu | ok |
| 18:50.06 | acsia | ensuring I am not going crazy |
| 18:50.19 | muthu | you are not crazy - certified. |
| 18:51.23 | acsia | :) |
| 18:51.46 | muthu | :) |
| 18:53.47 | acsia | rhett: it might be a lot for a simple dialog, basically you extend Dialog, set the content to the one that you want and in your main activity you use show(). I use a handler to get the values back to my main activity but you could probably do it differently as well |
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| 19:04.11 | jasta | romainguy: if you were participating in the ADC, what app would you write? :) |
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| 19:07.04 | muthu | jasta: did you check the gesture app |
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| 19:12.43 | jasta | gesture app? |
| 19:13.33 | muthu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7A6OHWfSOE > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxwGMtNS_YA |
| 19:14.09 | B0jangles | cool |
| 19:14.55 | jasta | jesus, that guy writes really gracefully with the mous |
| 19:14.56 | jasta | e |
| 19:16.04 | zhobbs | haha, I'm sure he's been practicing a lot everyday for like 3 months |
| 19:16.10 | jasta | yeah :) |
| 19:16.18 | jasta | but seriously, it's impressive how precise his hand is |
| 19:16.23 | B0jangles | he probably has a tablet |
| 19:16.30 | michaelnovakjr_ | what's up with the affidavit for the contest? |
| 19:16.31 | jasta | even still |
| 19:16.32 | zhobbs | I like the spiral zoom in/out gesture |
| 19:16.36 | jasta | his hand writing on screen is better than mine in real life |
| 19:16.41 | jasta | with a pen, i mean |
| 19:17.01 | acsia | it s a really cool app |
| 19:17.02 | jasta | that is really cool though, and has a lot of applicability for the platform |
| 19:17.03 | B0jangles | affidavit? |
| 19:17.13 | jasta | my music app could use that for sure. to let you filter the list of artists and albums without a keyboard |
| 19:17.14 | michaelnovakjr_ | number 2 on the paperwork list |
| 19:17.15 | zhobbs | that'll be useful if the phone isn't multitouch especially |
| 19:17.27 | B0jangles | michaelnovakjr_: link? |
| 19:17.38 | zhobbs | jasta: that's true, just start gesturing the artist/album name |
| 19:17.55 | michaelnovakjr_ | http://code.google.com/android/adc_judging.html |
| 19:18.00 | jasta | yeah, much better than sliding out a qwerty keyboard or whatever |
| 19:18.20 | jasta | i have the alphabet bar on the left, but even i know that will not be enough. |
| 19:18.28 | jasta | i'll have to enhance that a lot to make it usable |
| 19:18.31 | B0jangles | michaelnovakjr_: seems reasonable |
| 19:18.38 | jasta | but gesturing would be a great way to do searches |
| 19:18.39 | B0jangles | "Affidavit of Eligibility, Publicity Release, and Payment Information -- Each participant will need to sign an affidavit confirming their eligibility to receive a prize and a release for Google to use your name in connection with your Entry. Also, we'll need certain information in order to actually complete payment of the prize money. " |
| 19:18.41 | acsia | hey jasta ther eis this website where you sign and it recognizes the singer... Do you get the hint |
| 19:18.55 | michaelnovakjr_ | i meant what do we have to do with it B0jangles |
| 19:18.58 | jasta | acsia: where you sign? |
| 19:19.10 | acsia | give me a sec I ll try to find it |
| 19:19.21 | B0jangles | michaelnovakjr_: If you win, they'll make you sign something to claim the money |
| 19:19.27 | michaelnovakjr_ | ah ok |
| 19:19.31 | jasta | i am hoping android has some nice speech-to-text stuff as well |
| 19:19.35 | zhobbs | yeah, that's only if you win |
| 19:19.37 | jasta | i'd love to be able to hands-free the music app :) |
| 19:19.39 | michaelnovakjr_ | B0jangles, i thought it was before |
| 19:19.42 | B0jangles | ah, no |
| 19:19.45 | michaelnovakjr_ | cool |
| 19:20.54 | zhobbs | yeah, speech recog would be great...lots of people would love that |
| 19:21.09 | muthu | someone was writing the speech reg |
| 19:21.35 | zhobbs | is it going to be possible in java with a 600 Mhz processor? |
| 19:21.46 | B0jangles | sure |
| 19:21.49 | zhobbs | might be better off in c |
| 19:21.53 | Kraln | uh |
| 19:22.02 | Kraln | speech recog is a terribly complex problem |
| 19:22.12 | Kraln | do you want it to recognize words or transcripe spoken speech? |
| 19:22.21 | Kraln | transcribe* |
| 19:22.42 | zhobbs | that's true, maybe be fast enough to do a word at a time...but not whole phrases |
| 19:22.55 | Kraln | it's not about speed |
| 19:22.58 | Kraln | it's about accuracy |
| 19:23.08 | B0jangles | more speed = more accuracy |
| 19:23.13 | Kraln | if you can figure out a word 95% of the time, how many words in this sentence did you just muck up? |
| 19:23.28 | Kraln | now make it a more realistic 80%. |
| 19:24.12 | Kraln | if you want some java speech recognition code, I actually just wrote a basic one. |
| 19:25.06 | B0jangles | Kraln: how did you go about doing it? |
| 19:26.50 | Kraln | uh, record samples, isolate utterance from background noise and silence |
| 19:27.02 | B0jangles | well, that much is obvious |
| 19:27.07 | Kraln | fft, hamming window |
| 19:27.11 | B0jangles | got it |
| 19:27.15 | Kraln | compare against known lengths, samples, and ffts |
| 19:27.15 | B0jangles | was wondering if you used fft |
| 19:27.28 | B0jangles | or tried to do it without |
| 19:27.29 | Kraln | without fft "hello" = "goodbye" |
| 19:27.44 | Kraln | could have done dct instead of fft, but the result is about the same |
| 19:27.53 | Kraln | and fft is faaaaast for power of 2 samples |
| 19:28.03 | B0jangles | one could theoretically do it with a series of bandpass filters |
| 19:28.16 | Kraln | this is true. want me to put up the code? I have no further interest in it |
| 19:28.24 | B0jangles | that's okay |
| 19:28.29 | B0jangles | I know how to do it w/ fft |
| 19:28.44 | B0jangles | just wondering if you had come up with some way that worked better on a mobile phone |
| 19:29.09 | Kraln | it does /alright/ with just the length of the utterance and the RMSE of the samples |
| 19:29.24 | B0jangles | ah |
| 19:29.31 | Kraln | if your spoken commands are disparate enough, that'll suffice |
| 19:29.41 | B0jangles | interesting |
| 19:29.43 | Kraln | ie, stop, play, pause, next. |
| 19:30.18 | Kraln | I got it to recognize "hi, mike, testing, hello, goodbye" with only one sample to compare against |
| 19:31.09 | B0jangles | cool |
| 19:31.10 | Kraln | the thing that took the longest is finding where the utterance borders |
| 19:31.15 | Kraln | and that could be sped up quite a bit |
| 19:31.36 | B0jangles | yeah, I wrote a pitch detecting algorithm awhile ago. same problem |
| 19:31.56 | B0jangles | or rather, a system that employed pitch detection |
| 19:32.13 | Kraln | to detect zero point, I order all the samples and pick the one 10% of the way in as the 'zero' |
| 19:32.26 | Kraln | so, it's an array sort (n log n) |
| 19:32.37 | Kraln | shrugs |
| 19:32.40 | B0jangles | aye |
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| 20:24.22 | ritztech | aloha everybody |
| 20:34.13 | ritztech | anyone know of the new p750 phone |
| 20:35.09 | jasta | what about it? |
| 20:41.33 | davidw | wow... not bad, 136 buffers in emacs |
| 20:43.22 | jasta | is tempted to start a holy war, but there's just no time :) |
| 20:43.55 | Kraln | viiii |
| 20:45.29 | zhobbs | uh oh...that war just isn't worth it |
| 20:46.26 | B0jangles | why do people use vi when they can use vim? |
| 20:46.44 | zhobbs | why do people use vim when they can use emacs? |
| 20:46.47 | davidw | does anyone who says 'vi' actually not mean 'vim' ? |
| 20:46.55 | B0jangles | davidw: I dunno |
| 20:47.00 | B0jangles | do they? |
| 20:47.09 | davidw | zhobbs, fetal alcohol syndrome or something like that |
| 20:47.10 | B0jangles | If you mean vim, why not just say vim |
| 20:47.41 | davidw | I guess that's not all that funny... never mind |
| 20:47.42 | zhobbs | lol |
| 20:47.52 | zhobbs | I think it's pretty funny |
| 20:48.08 | B0jangles | hey, nothing funnier than fetal alcohol syndrome |
| 20:48.53 | davidw | it would be better suited to a joke over a few beers or something... anyway... |
| 20:49.05 | B0jangles | I can go get a beer if you'd like |
| 20:49.17 | ritztech | can i put the android os on any phone that has wm6 |
| 20:49.38 | B0jangles | there have been a lot of people asking about installing android on phones today... |
| 20:49.52 | acsia | ritztech: that s funny |
| 20:50.07 | ritztech | i know i know darn andriod |
| 20:50.15 | acsia | windows mobile 6 yes? |
| 20:51.15 | ritztech | im trying to find out a good phone out there and you got bunch of phones over seas |
| 20:51.22 | acsia | ritztech: android is the OS itself, it is not intended to run ontop of any other OS |
| 20:51.31 | acsia | wait til this summer |
| 20:51.37 | ritztech | i know that i would have to load that |
| 20:51.48 | B0jangles | There isn't currently any way to install Android aside from hacking your phone |
| 20:51.49 | ritztech | hmmm really ehh |
| 20:51.59 | B0jangles | And it probably won't work very well |
| 20:52.03 | ritztech | i saw the asus p750 |
| 20:52.22 | acsia | or emulated within your computer but that s not very portable |
| 20:52.25 | davidw | B0jangles, actually, living in Austria, I'm kind of sick of beer |
| 20:52.31 | ritztech | hmmm is it jsut a linux load |
| 20:52.38 | B0jangles | davidw: heresy! |
| 20:53.07 | davidw | it's monotonous... I'll take a good red wine any time |
| 20:53.15 | B0jangles | I also like wine |
| 20:53.24 | B0jangles | Can't afford "good" red wine |
| 20:53.29 | acsia | belgium has the best beer in the world |
| 20:53.32 | B0jangles | but I enjoy "regular" red wine |
| 20:53.46 | acsia | and it is not monotonous |
| 20:54.09 | davidw | wine is expensive in the US |
| 20:54.19 | B0jangles | It's cheap in Austria? |
| 20:54.41 | acsia | I enjoy any beverage that help in my quest of oblivion |
| 20:54.45 | B0jangles | I'll spend $10-$20 on a bottle of wine |
| 20:54.46 | davidw | cheaper than in the states, because they produce a bit themselves, and can easily import it from italy, france, spain, etc... |
| 20:54.54 | B0jangles | any more than that, and I assume I can't taste the difference |
| 20:55.12 | acsia | davidw: I remember in austria this really cool type of wine place |
| 20:55.14 | acsia | wine and co |
| 20:55.17 | acsia | that s it |
| 20:55.21 | acsia | cool idea IMO |
| 20:55.26 | davidw | what was it? |
| 20:55.51 | acsia | you choose your bottle and you can sit and have some cheese or snacks with your wine |
| 20:56.01 | acsia | it was in vienna that I saw that |
| 20:56.23 | acsia | I know it does not sound very extraordinary but it was more like a wine shop that let you sit and drink your bottle |
| 20:56.48 | davidw | ah, yeah that is cool |
| 20:58.24 | acsia | davidw: where do you live? |
| 20:58.32 | davidw | Innsbruck |
| 20:58.42 | davidw | Vienna would probably be a bit nicer in many ways |
| 20:59.16 | davidw | here they eat massive portions of fatty pork, potatoes, and drink lots of beer. Which is great if you work outside in the snow 10 hours a day, but is otherwise a recipe for heart disease |
| 20:59.37 | acsia | lol |
| 21:00.12 | acsia | i enjoyed vienna very much, never been to innsbruck |
| 21:00.21 | acsia | I went to klagenfurt as well |
| 21:01.06 | zhobbs | I need a vacation to Europe, I haven't ever been out there |
| 21:01.46 | acsia | I enjoy europe, especially living in London, you can travel for very cheap anywhere |
| 21:01.51 | davidw | not a good time with the dollar where it is:-/ |
| 21:02.00 | acsia | true |
| 21:02.09 | zhobbs | yeah I know |
| 21:02.27 | zhobbs | actually, I could get some free lodging in Holland...a friend of mine is moving out there |
| 21:02.40 | zhobbs | so, might have to take advantage of that this year |
| 21:03.18 | davidw | portugal's still fairly cheap |
| 21:03.21 | davidw | I liked it too |
| 21:03.38 | davidw | Italy is cool and along with france is perhaps one of the more varied countries in europe |
| 21:04.18 | davidw | you can see everything from typical tirolean wood houses high in the dolomites to greek looking whitewashed cities on the shore in the south |
| 21:04.33 | davidw | and italian girls are cute:-) |
| 21:04.49 | acsia | cute but a pain in the a** |
| 21:05.31 | acsia | I had a italian gf for 3 years |
| 21:05.47 | michaelnovakjr_ | i am married to an italian girl :) |
| 21:05.52 | acsia | :) |
| 21:05.53 | michaelnovakjr_ | gained 30 pounds! |
| 21:06.01 | acsia | hahaha yes that s how it goes |
| 21:06.03 | davidw | michaelnovakjr_, where from? |
| 21:06.14 | acsia | became 'la mama' |
| 21:06.27 | michaelnovakjr_ | i am in new york city |
| 21:06.43 | davidw | and her? italian italian or italian-american? |
| 21:06.53 | michaelnovakjr_ | her family is from Naples |
| 21:07.28 | acsia | meaning taht she grew up in italy or that he family grew up in italy? |
| 21:07.33 | acsia | her |
| 21:07.43 | michaelnovakjr_ | both |
| 21:08.03 | acsia | everytime I meet americans, they tell me they are irish or italians but it was actually their grand parents who were |
| 21:08.08 | davidw | that's cool... it doesn't take long for most families to get completely assimilated and lose the language |
| 21:08.15 | michaelnovakjr_ | haha true |
| 21:08.21 | michaelnovakjr_ | i learned italian real fast |
| 21:08.25 | acsia | I consider your nationality mostly where you grew up |
| 21:08.26 | davidw | my wife is from near Padova |
| 21:08.38 | michaelnovakjr_ | some of the older people in her family don't speak english at all realy |
| 21:09.08 | acsia | from all my travels, the most beautiful girls I ve seen are in lebanon |
| 21:09.14 | acsia | untouchable but magnificent |
| 21:09.26 | acsia | the most easy going are israelies |
| 21:09.49 | acsia | the most beautiful girls per km in sweden |
| 21:09.50 | michaelnovakjr_ | intersting |
| 21:09.59 | michaelnovakjr_ | i'll be back in a bit |
| 21:10.07 | acsia | the most interesting in kazakstan |
| 21:10.17 | davidw | wow... kazakhistan? |
| 21:10.19 | acsia | the most disapointed in russia |
| 21:10.26 | acsia | I went there for a wedding |
| 21:10.39 | davidw | cool |
| 21:10.44 | zhobbs | russia exports all their women |
| 21:10.46 | acsia | the funny thing is that KZ was the garbage of USSR |
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| 21:11.02 | jasta | weird |
| 21:11.16 | acsia | so you had all the jews/german/ukrainian/inteligencia that were sent to KZ |
| 21:11.36 | acsia | so now you have this kind of combination of mongol type of girl with blue eyes |
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| 21:12.08 | zhobbs | there was a guy in the IT dep of a place a worked for bit that was interviewing mail order brides |
| 21:12.08 | davidw | I think mixed up genes like that usually make for attractive people |
| 21:12.14 | zhobbs | (from russia) |
| 21:12.31 | davidw | here in innsbruck they all look like AAAhhnuld |
| 21:12.44 | acsia | etc.. a bit like venezuela and the imigration of germans after the WW2, nver been but I heard you can find the most beautiful girsl -> black skin with blue eyes |
| 21:12.46 | davidw | well, not really, but a lot of them;-) |
| 21:13.24 | acsia | zhobbs: I have a guy at work who s doing the same |
| 21:13.32 | acsia | we managed to find a profile page for him |
| 21:13.35 | acsia | so embarrassing |
| 21:13.40 | acsia | let me see if I can find it again |
| 21:17.16 | acsia | whe you use registerContentObserver, you can close you app and it will still be registered? |
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| 21:30.55 | jasta | acsia: no, though you still should unregister. |
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| 22:28.13 | jasta | I just realized that by the time Google I/O happens, we should know who the ADC winners are. Hopefully some of them attend :) |
| 22:29.10 | michaelnovakjr | they will be able to afford it :) |
| 22:29.40 | jasta | right, but most folks going will have decided before the 5th. |
| 22:30.00 | michaelnovakjr | why is it again? |
| 22:30.49 | michaelnovakjr | when is it again |
| 22:31.05 | jasta | may 28-29 |
| 22:32.42 | f00f- | i am not going |
| 22:32.50 | f00f- | are any of you? |
| 22:33.04 | michaelnovakjr | if i can win and decide after the 5th :) |
| 22:33.32 | jasta | f00f-: I am. |
| 22:34.02 | jasta | It's an excuse to part with my buddy that lives down there |
| 22:34.18 | jasta | also, his company is sending him to the conf. for some reason |
| 22:39.12 | Kraln | is there a way to set a scrollview so it cannot scroll past the bottom? |
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| 22:54.01 | acsia | is there any issues with the onLongClickListener on a ExpandableListActivity? |
| 22:54.20 | acsia | I can not make it work for some reason while the onClickListener works jsut fine |
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| 23:10.47 | Ix-X|tan | some nice question to the experts :P If i have a model loaded and i need to put several queries on it from different threads since i will not be modifying the rdf is it safe to use the same model ? |
| 23:11.07 | Ix-X|tan | read only |
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| 23:38.42 | jasta | alright, wrote my project's README for the adc :) |
| 23:43.13 | acsia | how long is it? |
| 23:44.00 | acsia | I am thinking about either keeping it simple or add screenshots etc... |
| 23:49.50 | acsia | is it possible to disable the zoom dialog on a map? |
| 23:50.16 | jasta | acsia: It's 105 lines in a text file. |
| 23:50.35 | jasta | I plan to include the README file and a demo video, that's it. |
| 23:50.43 | jasta | I mean, and the application :) |
| 23:50.53 | acsia | :) a video is a nice touch |
| 23:51.29 | jasta | I'm gonna post a demo video here any day now too. I just have too many ideas! |
| 23:51.29 | jasta | :) |
| 23:52.25 | jasta | Can't settle on an interface because I keep improving it hehe |
| 23:52.32 | acsia | plenty are looking forward to your video ;) |
| 23:52.35 | jasta | Anyway, heading home now. Got a lot more work to do tonight :) |
| 23:53.00 | acsia | I am brain dead, not sure if I should do some editing still or go to bed early... |
| 23:53.04 | acsia | maybe another hour |
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