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| 01:30.05 | rhett | I hate to be a complainer, but being a developer who worked on an app that doesn't "phone home" I feel like it's a little unfair that the phone-home apps know they're if they're in the top 100 at this point |
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| 01:35.18 | f00f- | i worked on a phone home app and it never phoned home |
| 01:35.51 | f00f- | so let's all just calm down and wait |
| 01:36.46 | rhett | ouch f00f- |
| 01:36.50 | rhett | that doesn't sound like a good sign |
| 01:42.07 | edcba | it failed at phoning home :) |
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| 01:43.37 | jjt001 | anyone here got any recent hits? |
| 01:43.46 | jjt001 | i was reading some posts, and a guy said he got one today |
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| 01:51.41 | rhett | does anyone know where I could check out some cool new android apks? |
| 01:51.53 | rhett | anyone see anything neat that's released yet? |
| 01:57.29 | living_sword | there r several sites, helloandroid.com, modmygphone.com, anddev.org etc. |
| 02:02.26 | michaelnovakjr | weatherphone!! |
| 02:02.58 | poffy | http://code.google.com/p/androidchat/ |
| 02:03.30 | poffy | It's really unfortunate how worthless these apps are, currently... |
| 02:08.08 | jtoy | i didnt get denied yet |
| 02:08.10 | jtoy | when do we know!!! |
| 02:10.00 | poffy | This week |
| 02:16.26 | living_sword | thats if dan and others work this weekend |
| 02:16.58 | living_sword | else its on monday |
| 02:18.49 | convivial | I have a taste for food that is currently unavailable because it is 9:13PM and this sucks because if I was in NYC or someone where in CA like San Jose, I could get fried chicken anytime of the day! even at 1AM in the morning ! Chicago, IL sucks ... take my advice do not move here!!!! |
| 02:19.41 | f00f- | convivial: duly noted :) |
| 02:19.58 | dmoffett | There would have to be a lot more than good restaurants to get me to move Chicago. |
| 02:20.23 | convivial | :( |
| 02:20.24 | michaelnovakjr | convivial: in NYC not everything is open so late :) |
| 02:20.32 | f00f- | actually at 1 AM, your choices here are In-N-Out, Jack in the Crack, or some awful diner |
| 02:20.32 | michaelnovakjr | only the tourist areas |
| 02:20.43 | michaelnovakjr | i'm in NYC |
| 02:20.52 | f00f- | not *that* many better-than-fast-food places open past midnight |
| 02:21.15 | convivial | well, it's 9:21PM here so that's no excuse |
| 02:21.30 | convivial | stores should close at 12:00AM or 11PM latest |
| 02:21.36 | convivial | earliest |
| 02:21.56 | f00f- | yeah, let's change the world |
| 02:22.31 | dmoffett | The only thing you can get to eat in Montrose, Colorado that late is bearded clam. |
| 02:22.32 | convivial | f00f-: the world needs to be completed destroyed by thermo nuclear war then we can rebuild from scratch!!! |
| 02:22.45 | michaelnovakjr | i'd like to live near Boston :) |
| 02:23.02 | f00f- | LOL |
| 02:23.20 | convivial | but this time no copper wires, no religion, no microsoft, no government and no mtv! and will be fine. |
| 02:23.22 | f00f- | clam chowdah, or chow-deure |
| 02:23.41 | michaelnovakjr | :) |
| 02:24.10 | f00f- | have any of you used the spatial extension for MySQL ? |
| 02:24.21 | michaelnovakjr | negative ghostrider |
| 02:24.35 | dmoffett | Did some in Rails. |
| 02:24.52 | dmoffett | Seems like the distance functions don't work. |
| 02:24.55 | convivial | all will be GB internet backbone, fibre optics, and nuclear fission energy ... and plant plenty of trees to end bitching about CO2 levels because trees will simply CO2 to oxygen ... problem fixed. period. |
| 02:25.12 | f00f- | dmoffett: are they still based on a planar model, as opposed to spherical? |
| 02:25.53 | dmoffett | been a while let me take a look |
| 02:28.25 | f00f- | it looks like there should be something in 5.1 that's more accurate |
| 02:30.52 | dmoffett | 5.0 which is what I used is based on OpenGIS. Not sure what they used. |
| 02:31.21 | dmoffett | I know I had to right my own distance calculations. |
| 02:31.34 | f00f- | well that sucks |
| 02:31.55 | f00f- | it seems like 5.1 isn't ready yet |
| 02:32.10 | dmoffett | Since the distances were pretty small I used a simple calculation. |
| 02:32.38 | dmoffett | if you want the code I can give it to you in sql. |
| 02:33.10 | f00f- | dmoffett: i've been looking at this: http://www.voxclandestina.com/2006-09-01/optimizing-spatial-proximity-searches-in-sql/ |
| 02:33.49 | michaelnovakjr | dmoffett: i'll be adding something very similar to my app although i haven't looked into it yet |
| 02:34.17 | dmoffett | similar to what I had to do but it looks like it the calculations are more accurate. |
| 02:35.45 | dmoffett | There are a ton of discussions on the subject. |
| 02:38.16 | f00f- | yeah, i guess i'll try it without the extensions first |
| 02:38.41 | dmoffett | SQRT(POW(69.1 * ABS(longitude - #{longitude}), 2) + POW(53.0 * ABS(l\ |
| 02:38.42 | dmoffett | atitude - #{latitude}) * COS(longitude/57.3), 2 )) < #{distance_in_miles}) |
| 02:38.58 | dmoffett | hold on let me try that again. |
| 02:39.20 | dmoffett | SQRT(POW(69.1 * ABS(longitude - #{longitude}), 2) + POW(53.0 * ABS(latitude - #{latitude}) * COS(longitude/57.3), 2 )) < #{distance_in_miles}) |
| 02:39.30 | dmoffett | This works ok for short distances. |
| 02:39.57 | dmoffett | Note the distance in miles. |
| 02:40.17 | f00f- | right |
| 02:40.27 | dmoffett | Please check the work though. |
| 02:44.04 | dmoffett | Now that Sun owns MySQL they may fix it and charge you money for it. :-) |
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| 02:45.23 | f00f- | dmoffett: yeah, they gotta make up for the $1bn somehow :) |
| 02:54.24 | convivial | oh well, guess i'll settle for a chunk of cheddar cheeze with a few crackers and some pine apple juice :( |
| 02:55.36 | f00f- | i'm just going to go to chipotle to get a burrito |
| 03:01.19 | convivial | they closed at 10:00PM :( |
| 03:01.22 | convivial | this shit sucks |
| 03:01.30 | convivial | naeprville is assinine |
| 03:01.47 | michaelnovakjr | family used to live in lisle |
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| 03:06.42 | convivial | michaelnovakjr: you have my condolences. :( |
| 03:06.46 | michaelnovakjr | haha |
| 03:06.54 | convivial | lol |
| 03:07.01 | rainabba_ | There a list of supported platforms for Android? I just got the idea that my HTC Titan may support linux and/or Android and I'm looking for info (using google and xda-developers). |
| 03:07.15 | michaelnovakjr | not yet |
| 03:07.22 | michaelnovakjr | nothing has been announced |
| 03:07.45 | rainabba_ | Where will it be announced? |
| 03:08.36 | michaelnovakjr | no idea |
| 03:08.47 | michaelnovakjr | i'm sure it'll be covered everywhere :) |
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| 03:28.37 | muthu | mornin |
| 03:29.06 | michaelnovakjr | howdy |
| 03:29.16 | muthu | hey michaelnovakjr |
| 03:29.33 | muthu | any news? |
| 03:29.45 | michaelnovakjr | nada |
| 03:29.50 | muthu | k |
| 03:30.02 | michaelnovakjr | i'm working on sms capabilities on my backend |
| 03:31.30 | muthu | cool |
| 03:31.50 | muthu | SMS will require carrier tieups? |
| 03:32.53 | michaelnovakjr | i'd like to |
| 03:33.02 | michaelnovakjr | right now its just standard sms for testing |
| 03:33.14 | muthu | k |
| 03:34.14 | michaelnovakjr | going to make it available for a certain number of users at first, to get some attention and then hopefully expand the infrastructure to support more and more users |
| 03:34.31 | muthu | who are the certain number? |
| 03:34.34 | muthu | how many? |
| 03:34.59 | michaelnovakjr | have decided... but its whatever the server system can hold.... first come first serve .... no preference |
| 03:35.36 | muthu | makes sense |
| 03:36.02 | michaelnovakjr | i am expecting no less than 10,000.... that is the absolute lowest |
| 03:36.07 | michaelnovakjr | i expect much higher |
| 03:36.27 | muthu | 100k might be the minimum |
| 03:37.17 | michaelnovakjr | possibly |
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| 04:09.31 | muthu | free phones are coming |
| 04:09.45 | muthu | will it be emailed? |
| 04:09.49 | muthu | haha |
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| 04:12.14 | skicson | i already got mine :-) |
| 04:12.32 | muthu | skicson: don't use it yet |
| 04:13.05 | muthu | its got a autotransfer of funds from your bank account ;) |
| 04:13.14 | Kraln | free phones? |
| 04:13.28 | skicson | i was wondering about why they needed my bank account number |
| 04:13.35 | skicson | d'oh. |
| 04:13.38 | muthu | Kraln: nah.. having fun |
| 04:14.16 | michaelnovakjr | skicson: got your what? |
| 04:14.33 | muthu | was expecting a client news this week.. but not coming |
| 04:14.38 | muthu | tough week |
| 04:15.11 | muthu | hope google conducts the android events everywhere |
| 04:15.22 | skicson | michaelnovakjr:my free new android phone they are giving to runner-ups. (THIS IS JUST A JOKE, IT IS ONLY A JOKE) |
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| 04:15.31 | michaelnovakjr | haha |
| 04:15.50 | michaelnovakjr | skicson: i heard that microsoft built them for google |
| 04:15.58 | skicson | LOL! |
| 04:16.26 | michaelnovakjr | apparently they look like mini xboxes with steve ballmer's head as the screensaver |
| 04:16.38 | skicson | throwing icons around |
| 04:16.48 | michaelnovakjr | of the letter 'G' |
| 04:17.09 | skicson | and as of the other day, "Y" |
| 04:17.39 | michaelnovakjr | yea, now they are $ - MS = Y |
| 04:18.43 | muthu | yhoo - 24.47, not bad huh |
| 04:18.47 | muthu | 15%drop |
| 04:18.54 | michaelnovakjr | i hope it drops more |
| 04:18.58 | muthu | it will |
| 04:19.04 | michaelnovakjr | i don't like jerry yang |
| 04:19.17 | muthu | no one can understand his moves |
| 04:19.31 | muthu | this is the perfect closure for yhoo and jerry yang |
| 04:19.42 | michaelnovakjr | i hope he gets the boot! |
| 04:19.56 | muthu | it might happen |
| 04:20.34 | muthu | Why not a bigger rout? Possible reasons include lingering hope that Microsoft may return with another offer, the potential for a lucrative deal with Google (GOOG), and perhaps most surprisingly, recognition that Yahoo is doing better than it was when the deal came to light. |
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| 04:44.26 | muthu | James Davis - is he in google? |
| 04:45.15 | muthu | if anyone is checking, check at the founders level since JD is a friend of Sergey |
| 04:47.24 | muthu | Rajeev Motwani? |
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| 05:30.24 | muthu | android.google.com - like it |
| 05:32.24 | poffy | k, so everyone has confused me about when results are going to be announced. Results are going to be announced sometime this week, correct? |
| 05:32.32 | muthu | poffy: yes |
| 05:32.36 | poffy | ok |
| 05:32.38 | muthu | no one knows when |
| 05:32.41 | poffy | Yeah |
| 05:32.48 | poffy | I heard some people saying next week |
| 05:32.52 | muthu | nope |
| 05:32.52 | poffy | Some people saying Wednesday |
| 05:32.55 | poffy | crazy |
| 05:33.04 | muthu | on or before May 9 for sure |
| 05:33.14 | muthu | possibly May 7 |
| 05:33.15 | poffy | yeah |
| 05:33.17 | poffy | ok |
| 05:44.53 | duey | muthu, you dont know for sure |
| 05:44.55 | duey | stop bsing |
| 05:45.15 | duey | it might be may 09! |
| 05:45.23 | muthu | duey: what's the bs here |
| 05:45.38 | muthu | it can be any one of the date |
| 05:45.49 | duey | it could be 10,11,12,14,15,16,17 |
| 05:45.53 | muthu | no |
| 05:46.15 | muthu | it has been clarified, that May 9 is the deadline |
| 05:46.24 | muthu | are you under a rock somewhere? ;) |
| 05:46.41 | duey | i only read "may 9 might be the deadline" |
| 05:46.46 | muthu | nope |
| 05:46.49 | muthu | it is the deadline |
| 05:47.10 | muthu | as of now |
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| 05:47.16 | muthu | unless someone changed it alreaady |
| 05:57.46 | duey | they should give top 500 people a android device! |
| 05:57.59 | muthu | that might happen |
| 05:58.03 | muthu | some discounts or the other |
| 05:58.09 | duey | yeah discounts even |
| 05:58.20 | duey | its really hard to develop my app without a camera |
| 05:58.33 | muthu | hey duey, did you look at photok |
| 05:58.36 | muthu | ? |
| 05:58.43 | muthu | its very similar to yours |
| 05:58.47 | duey | no |
| 05:58.51 | muthu | check it out |
| 05:59.03 | duey | where isi t |
| 05:59.17 | muthu | 1 sec |
| 05:59.43 | muthu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Or96-48nhI |
| 06:01.27 | duey | intersting.. |
| 06:01.43 | muthu | yeah, they integrate with picasa, calendar |
| 06:01.56 | muthu | and goog will likey |
| 06:02.26 | duey | these are all the ideas of mine :( |
| 06:02.29 | duey | wtf |
| 06:04.36 | muthu | haha |
| 06:04.59 | duey | uhh wtf |
| 06:05.01 | duey | thats bs |
| 06:05.11 | muthu | just like lbs |
| 06:05.14 | muthu | you take anything |
| 06:05.21 | muthu | there's atleast 10 people doing the samething |
| 06:05.26 | duey | heh |
| 06:05.30 | duey | interesting though |
| 06:05.37 | duey | they had some hand writing recognition going on |
| 06:05.45 | duey | and it was really accurate |
| 06:06.03 | duey | im calling fake until i see it in action |
| 06:06.09 | muthu | might be |
| 06:06.15 | muthu | most of them are presenting poc |
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| 06:10.39 | muthu | Yo zhobss |
| 06:10.49 | muthu | zhobbs: where you gone? |
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| 06:55.19 | muthu | http://www.helloandroid.com/node/535 |
| 07:00.04 | duey | so muthu |
| 07:00.07 | duey | got any hits on your app? |
| 07:00.16 | muthu | duey: no server for me |
| 07:00.19 | duey | ah ok |
| 07:00.20 | muthu | so no idea |
| 07:00.29 | duey | i wonder how jasta is goin |
| 07:00.30 | muthu | my submission was a simple cooking app |
| 07:00.37 | muthu | its either a hit or a miss |
| 07:00.45 | muthu | both of which is understandable |
| 07:00.54 | muthu | jasta: has gone partying |
| 07:00.59 | muthu | for cinco de mayo |
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| 07:03.06 | duey | thats the second time i have heard that saying today |
| 07:03.07 | duey | what is it |
| 07:03.16 | muthu | that's mexican new year |
| 07:03.20 | duey | ah |
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| 07:03.29 | muthu | and americans love mexico!! |
| 07:06.07 | mickrobk | muthu: it's actually more of a mexican pride day - it celebrates a historic army battle that they won |
| 07:06.26 | muthu | mickrobk: oh thanks |
| 07:06.33 | muthu | thought it was the mexican new year |
| 07:06.48 | mickrobk | 6 years of spanish classes... :) |
| 07:07.58 | muthu | cool.. you like spanish? |
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| 07:08.50 | mickrobk | not really, havn't taken any in years, i was never any good at languages - but that might have more to do with interest |
| 07:09.14 | muthu | right, learning languages needs some interest for sure |
| 07:10.24 | mickrobk | it'd be fun to move to another country and learn the language though, that would be good incentive |
| 07:10.31 | duey | I know english :D |
| 07:10.54 | muthu | mickrobk: yeah, going out and learning new things will make you a lot smarter in general |
| 07:11.27 | muthu | duey: is that the british, american, australian or what? ;) |
| 07:11.33 | duey | umm |
| 07:11.46 | duey | i guess its a mix of british and aussie :) |
| 07:12.17 | muthu | cool |
| 07:12.32 | duey | real cool |
| 07:12.33 | duey | haha |
| 07:12.42 | muthu | recently read an article |
| 07:12.45 | muthu | about your place |
| 07:13.04 | muthu | and they were all praise for nature |
| 07:13.17 | muthu | need to visit sometime |
| 07:14.43 | duey | no hits |
| 07:14.49 | duey | no new hits* |
| 07:14.53 | duey | i must be out :D |
| 07:14.59 | muthu | haha |
| 07:15.53 | davidw | I read that cinco de mayo |
| 07:16.02 | davidw | isn't actually that big a deal in mexico |
| 07:16.20 | muthu | really? so its only in US then.. |
| 07:16.59 | mickrobk | davidw: yea thats what i've heard as well |
| 07:18.02 | duey | good excuse to party i guess |
| 07:20.22 | duey | i so wish i had a quad core machine right now :( |
| 07:20.47 | muthu | happy with my dual so far |
| 07:20.53 | duey | i have a dual |
| 07:20.59 | duey | just im running some experiments |
| 07:21.01 | romainguy | duey: it doesn't help much in most applications |
| 07:21.02 | duey | and they are taking ages |
| 07:21.09 | romainguy | (but I'm very happy with my 8 cores :) |
| 07:21.11 | duey | it helps if I thread them :) |
| 07:21.20 | muthu | 8 cores? |
| 07:21.23 | romainguy | yes |
| 07:21.23 | muthu | woah |
| 07:21.26 | duey | 8 cores would be nice |
| 07:21.32 | duey | i could get these done in a few minutes |
| 07:21.34 | romainguy | it's really cool in Lightroom and Photoshop |
| 07:22.29 | duey | ill have to get me a macpro |
| 07:22.35 | duey | no desk space though :( |
| 07:22.45 | duey | put the ps3 back in its box |
| 07:23.12 | romainguy | the macpro goes under the desk :p |
| 07:23.28 | duey | ah i dont like putting computers under my desk they get full of dust |
| 07:23.43 | romainguy | on top of the desk too |
| 07:23.46 | romainguy | but whatever :) |
| 07:23.58 | duey | yeah but i get way more if i put it on the carpet |
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| 08:25.31 | duey | http://www.vodafone.com/start/media_relations/news/group_press_releases/2007/vodafone_to_offer0.html |
| 08:25.35 | duey | intersting .. |
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| 08:25.48 | muthu | yeah duey |
| 08:25.53 | muthu | iphone coming everywhere |
| 08:25.57 | duey | yeah |
| 08:26.29 | muthu | i hate those tieups with 1 vendor though |
| 08:27.43 | duey | ah im used to it |
| 08:28.01 | muthu | and such delayed launch |
| 08:28.09 | duey | we only have two vendors in nz |
| 08:28.12 | duey | and vodafone is the better |
| 08:28.32 | muthu | its not who's better |
| 08:28.40 | duey | the other one has a cdma network so they cant even use iphones |
| 08:29.09 | muthu | iphone doesn't work on cdma? |
| 08:29.15 | duey | i dont think so |
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| 08:55.54 | Lede | am i the only who thinks people are whining on the mailinglist about winning and losing? |
| 08:56.39 | duey | i just ignore it all now |
| 08:58.12 | duey | wicked 77% classification rate on my scenary dataset~~! |
| 08:58.35 | Lede | s/only/only one |
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| 10:22.13 | davidw | Lede, they don't even know yet, either |
| 10:22.16 | davidw | "blah blah blah |
| 10:22.17 | davidw | " |
| 10:24.54 | davidw | decides to upgrade ubuntu |
| 10:25.47 | Lede | hasnt upgraded from fedora core 6 in a while |
| 10:27.55 | Lede | ill wait for fedora 10 :o) |
| 10:37.53 | muthu | fedora 8 is cool |
| 10:37.59 | muthu | upgrade from fc6 |
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| 11:52.52 | muthu | yo boos |
| 11:53.27 | muthu | wake up and read my latest post in http://helloandroid.com |
| 11:56.53 | cutmasta | muthu, nice link ;) |
| 11:57.09 | muthu | cutmasta: thanks |
| 11:57.41 | muthu | looks like i'll win the Android president post now ;) |
| 11:59.04 | ligi | muthu for president !-) |
| 11:59.12 | muthu | yooohooo! |
| 12:02.25 | cutmasta | muthu, what about http://androidportal.com |
| 12:02.34 | cutmasta | also cool stuff ;) |
| 12:02.37 | ligi | muthu: now google has a template for the mail for the x=(1788-50) ;-) |
| 12:02.56 | muthu | haha |
| 12:02.59 | cutmasta | hehehehe |
| 12:03.21 | muthu | let me see, if they contact me |
| 12:03.24 | muthu | lol |
| 12:03.37 | muthu | cutmasta: will check out androidportal |
| 12:03.41 | muthu | you run it? |
| 12:03.55 | ligi | cutmasta: but the site iss to bright |
| 12:04.03 | ligi | need sun glasses |
| 12:04.03 | cutmasta | why to brigth ligi |
| 12:04.16 | cutmasta | you have to go out 1 day of 30 in a month :) |
| 12:04.24 | muthu | haha |
| 12:04.27 | ligi | no |
| 12:04.28 | ligi | ^^ |
| 12:04.43 | cutmasta | i liked the color scheme |
| 12:04.54 | ligi | i like dark pages http://ligi-tec.blogspot.com/ |
| 12:05.16 | cutmasta | ligi, so dark |
| 12:05.27 | cutmasta | its spring |
| 12:05.30 | cutmasta | nearly summer |
| 12:05.41 | ligi | not in my office |
| 12:05.42 | ligi | ^^ |
| 12:05.43 | cutmasta | change to bright, chooose summer :) |
| 12:07.24 | muthu | cutmasta: were you on vacation? you post what once every 3 months? ;) |
| 12:07.38 | cutmasta | muthu, work is stressing me more and more |
| 12:07.46 | muthu | yeah i know |
| 12:07.56 | muthu | take it easy |
| 12:08.09 | cutmasta | i run androidportal just for fun |
| 12:08.32 | muthu | cool, that's the way it should be |
| 12:08.46 | cutmasta | if i have time i code some stuff for android |
| 12:08.49 | cutmasta | if not |
| 12:08.54 | cutmasta | :) |
| 12:10.20 | muthu | you were busy with ADC |
| 12:10.31 | muthu | excited about results? |
| 12:10.43 | cutmasta | i dont see any results |
| 12:10.48 | cutmasta | are they out? |
| 12:10.53 | muthu | no |
| 12:11.03 | muthu | if they are out, what's the fun? |
| 12:11.07 | cutmasta | hehe |
| 12:11.25 | cutmasta | i am exited about paralellkingdom |
| 12:11.27 | cutmasta | and enkin |
| 12:11.32 | muthu | oh yeah |
| 12:11.36 | muthu | those are top 2 |
| 12:15.04 | cutmasta | definitly |
| 12:16.54 | cutmasta | muthu, i just saw my analytics account |
| 12:17.03 | muthu | what it says? |
| 12:17.08 | cutmasta | was suprised that 20 visitors were yesterday on the page |
| 12:17.15 | muthu | wow! |
| 12:17.22 | cutmasta | but if search for android developer challenge winners.... |
| 12:17.27 | cutmasta | my page is rank 3 |
| 12:17.29 | cutmasta | wtf |
| 12:17.31 | cutmasta | :) |
| 12:17.38 | muthu | so we are early |
| 12:17.49 | muthu | early mover advantage ;) |
| 12:20.19 | cutmasta | only the early bird gets the worm ;) |
| 12:20.35 | muthu | bigtime! |
| 12:22.09 | cutmasta | muthu, im currently a client for open-xchange for android |
| 12:22.36 | cutmasta | to have all my contacts, appiointments, mails online and access them in real time |
| 12:23.31 | muthu | wow, cool |
| 12:24.10 | cutmasta | i hate to manage contacts on a mobile |
| 12:24.18 | cutmasta | and like the ox web gui to manage them |
| 12:24.33 | muthu | yeah simplifying the contacts on the mobile |
| 12:24.35 | cutmasta | and the cool thing is, they have a json interface , which is very very fast |
| 12:24.38 | muthu | that's something everyone needs |
| 12:24.55 | cutmasta | i have written this also for iphone |
| 12:24.58 | cutmasta | but iphone is crap |
| 12:25.26 | muthu | iphone - is too hard for me now to do |
| 12:25.45 | muthu | no point in bending backwards for iphone |
| 12:25.49 | cutmasta | muthu, i wrote a webapp |
| 12:26.01 | cutmasta | optimized in design and functionality for iphone |
| 12:26.01 | muthu | which one? |
| 12:26.11 | muthu | did you sell it? |
| 12:26.22 | cutmasta | you can jump from iphones contact list (which is online) directly to maps |
| 12:26.34 | cutmasta | or call contact. or mail him |
| 12:26.43 | cutmasta | but you can managetr them online |
| 12:26.51 | cutmasta | and dont have the fucking sync to do |
| 12:26.56 | muthu | how you distributed? |
| 12:26.57 | cutmasta | which IS also crap, |
| 12:27.19 | cutmasta | muthu, currently i just posted in the forum |
| 12:27.21 | cutmasta | dont have more time |
| 12:27.47 | muthu | ok |
| 12:27.53 | muthu | what's your day job? |
| 12:28.28 | cutmasta | consultant for java,mail and integration projects |
| 12:29.09 | cutmasta | so i love projects/products |
| 12:29.19 | cutmasta | which have well documented and working interfaces |
| 12:29.27 | cutmasta | to integrate in another great product |
| 12:29.39 | muthu | great, where in US? |
| 12:29.51 | cutmasta | no, germany |
| 12:29.58 | muthu | oh cool |
| 12:30.08 | muthu | either US or germany |
| 12:30.15 | muthu | that's where the droids are from :) |
| 12:30.33 | ligi | cutmasta: wo kommstn her? |
| 12:30.41 | cutmasta | ligi, near cologne |
| 12:30.59 | ligi | greetinx to cologne from Leipzig |
| 12:30.59 | cutmasta | 40miles to the east |
| 12:31.08 | cutmasta | ligi, back to leipzig :) |
| 12:31.11 | muthu | thx to android, i've got some german friends now |
| 12:31.18 | cutmasta | my grandma is from leipzig |
| 12:31.21 | ligi | muthu: ;-) |
| 12:31.25 | muthu | :) |
| 12:34.09 | cutmasta | ligi, you heard from the bad crime which happened in NRW yesterday |
| 12:34.21 | cutmasta | where 3 babys were found in the freezer |
| 12:34.45 | ligi | cutmasta: no i have no TV |
| 12:34.55 | ligi | and not yet read the news |
| 12:35.14 | cutmasta | ah ok, ligi http://www.stern.de/politik/panorama/:Olpe-Drei-Babyleichen-K%FChltruhe/619280.html |
| 12:35.34 | cutmasta | the house is 100m near mine, i was shocked, i knew these people |
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| 12:35.45 | muthu | oh man, that's terrible |
| 12:36.07 | ligi | what a world we live in |
| 12:36.48 | cutmasta | you cant imagine how much tv teams were there |
| 12:37.27 | muthu | the good comes with the bad |
| 12:37.28 | muthu | that's life |
| 12:37.57 | ligi | and life suxx |
| 12:37.57 | ligi | ^^ |
| 12:38.22 | cutmasta | ..often :) |
| 12:38.27 | cutmasta | but not all... |
| 12:38.28 | cutmasta | :) |
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| 12:40.59 | muthu | its highs and lows |
| 12:41.07 | muthu | need to take both |
| 12:41.40 | cutmasta | muthu, where r u from? |
| 12:42.25 | muthu | Chennai, India. |
| 12:42.47 | cutmasta | cool |
| 12:42.56 | cutmasta | i am planning to travel to india these year |
| 12:43.01 | cutmasta | for 2 weeks |
| 12:43.07 | muthu | are you coming to chennai? |
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| 12:43.24 | cutmasta | currently i have no idea, where its good to travel to |
| 12:43.38 | muthu | there's a lot of great places to see |
| 12:43.38 | cutmasta | i do "research" |
| 12:43.40 | muthu | india is huge |
| 12:44.00 | muthu | come to chennai, you can see some temples |
| 12:44.07 | muthu | tamilnadu is famous for temples |
| 12:44.34 | cutmasta | muthu, perhaps i can ask you this evening some quests ? |
| 12:44.41 | muthu | sure |
| 12:44.45 | muthu | feel free |
| 12:44.45 | cutmasta | cool, thx |
| 12:45.03 | cutmasta | i will do so |
| 12:45.07 | cutmasta | :) |
| 12:45.20 | cutmasta | expect many many quests :) |
| 12:45.27 | muthu | sure |
| 12:45.30 | muthu | np |
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| 15:42.34 | ligi | anyone got results? |
| 15:43.03 | michaelnovakjr__ | judges stuff isn't due until tomorrow.... wouldn't expect them until thursday or friday |
| 15:43.08 | michaelnovakjr__ | the earliest |
| 15:46.13 | muthu | we'll know by tomorrow |
| 15:46.35 | michaelnovakjr__ | grrr, don't say that |
| 15:46.43 | michaelnovakjr__ | its still a maybe |
| 15:46.49 | muthu | michaelnovakjr say what? |
| 15:46.55 | michaelnovakjr__ | we'll know by tomorrow |
| 15:46.59 | muthu | you mean may 7 is not the date? |
| 15:47.13 | muthu | morrildl: is it may 7? |
| 15:47.16 | michaelnovakjr__ | muthu: you posted it on hello android? |
| 15:47.38 | michaelnovakjr__ | it said wednesday judges get their stuff in tomorrow so they are still on track for 'sometime' this week |
| 15:47.39 | muthu | michaelnovakjr my understanding is may 7 is possible |
| 15:47.43 | michaelnovakjr__ | sure |
| 15:47.48 | michaelnovakjr__ | possible, but not definite |
| 15:47.52 | muthu | right, so it might happen |
| 15:48.12 | michaelnovakjr__ | its possible, but it could come thursday or friday even according to dan's statement |
| 15:48.31 | michaelnovakjr__ | i don't want to get my hopes up again :) |
| 15:48.43 | dmoffett | I thought once the judges turned in their results it had to go to lega? |
| 15:48.48 | dmoffett | legal. |
| 15:49.08 | michaelnovakjr__ | i'd say its a very small chance they will come tomorrow |
| 15:49.21 | muthu | legal will be country check |
| 15:49.33 | muthu | where the submissions came from |
| 15:49.36 | michaelnovakjr__ | i was siked for monday, and don't want to go through that again |
| 15:49.55 | muthu | michaelnovakjr may 7, may 7, may 7 |
| 15:50.04 | muthu | lol |
| 15:50.09 | michaelnovakjr__ | haha |
| 15:51.22 | michaelnovakjr__ | muthu, the sms services are coming along, release date is looking like friday for the service |
| 15:51.31 | morrildl | muthu: no, it's May 6 today |
| 15:51.42 | ligi | lol |
| 15:51.43 | michaelnovakjr__ | haha, dan is really funny |
| 15:51.43 | ligi | ^^ |
| 15:52.09 | ligi | muthu: blog that |
| 15:52.12 | ligi | ;-) |
| 15:52.14 | muthu | may 6, really? |
| 15:52.20 | michaelnovakjr__ | my god |
| 15:52.21 | muthu | ** here i go, blogging |
| 15:52.21 | ligi | he said today |
| 15:52.32 | ligi | and he is an official |
| 15:52.33 | michaelnovakjr__ | dude, you must be kidding right? |
| 15:53.07 | ligi | no kidding |
| 15:53.13 | muthu | cool.. check the emails everyone |
| 15:53.17 | michaelnovakjr__ | what |
| 15:53.18 | muthu | i didn't get one yet |
| 15:53.19 | ligi | muthu: ? |
| 15:53.22 | ligi | ^^ |
| 15:53.30 | michaelnovakjr__ | seriously, muthu read that line again :) |
| 15:53.47 | michaelnovakjr__ | (11:51:32 AM) morrildl: muthu: no, it's May 6 today |
| 15:53.50 | muthu | michaelnovakjr its today, confirmed |
| 15:54.02 | michaelnovakjr__ | he said today is May 6th |
| 15:54.12 | michaelnovakjr__ | didn't mention the challenge |
| 15:54.16 | poffy | heh |
| 15:54.17 | ligi | michaelnovakjr__: but in this context |
| 15:54.24 | ligi | context iss important |
| 15:54.38 | michaelnovakjr__ | (11:49:56 AM) muthu: michaelnovakjr may 7, may 7, may 7 |
| 15:54.41 | michaelnovakjr__ | there is your context |
| 15:54.58 | dmoffett | It's the 7th in Austrailia |
| 15:55.07 | ligi | is clicking "get mail" button once per second now |
| 15:55.17 | muthu | guess he wanted me to do breaking news ;) |
| 15:55.20 | muthu | let me do it |
| 15:55.31 | ligi | muthu: yes thats wat he wanted |
| 15:55.33 | poffy | in b4 results aren't announced till the 9th |
| 15:55.47 | ligi | poffy: b4? |
| 15:55.57 | poffy | bee-four |
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| 15:56.04 | Dougie187 | good morning |
| 15:56.09 | michaelnovakjr__ | guys, i believe he was kidding |
| 15:56.40 | muthu | no kidding |
| 15:56.55 | michaelnovakjr__ | i'm lost |
| 15:57.06 | ligi | we're all |
| 15:57.10 | ligi | lost |
| 15:57.24 | muthu | where's he? |
| 15:57.29 | muthu | couldn't find him now |
| 15:57.38 | michaelnovakjr__ | he bailed right after saying his infamous statement |
| 15:57.44 | muthu | oh oh |
| 15:58.02 | muthu | wanted to get confirmation |
| 15:58.04 | muthu | but he left |
| 15:58.21 | muthu | what you folks say, break this? |
| 15:58.34 | poffy | Negative |
| 15:58.44 | ligi | breaking news this |
| 15:58.46 | Dougie187 | so hows it going guys? |
| 15:58.56 | muthu | Dougie187: the results are out today |
| 15:59.01 | michaelnovakjr__ | haha |
| 15:59.02 | ligi | Dougie187: fine but waiting for results |
| 15:59.03 | Dougie187 | ohh |
| 15:59.13 | Dougie187 | too bad it doesnt affect me |
| 15:59.27 | michaelnovakjr__ | good for you! :) |
| 15:59.30 | Dougie187 | :) |
| 15:59.34 | Dougie187 | i already know im a winner |
| 15:59.38 | michaelnovakjr__ | i think some people are ready to jump |
| 16:00.00 | muthu | i want to interview the first one who comes out in public |
| 16:00.02 | Dougie187 | eh it happens. |
| 16:00.09 | Dougie187 | of the closet? |
| 16:00.15 | muthu | check the WINNERMETER!! |
| 16:00.48 | michaelnovakjr__ | its me!! |
| 16:00.58 | michaelnovakjr__ | holy shit! |
| 16:01.03 | muthu | woah |
| 16:01.13 | ligi | ?! |
| 16:01.24 | ligi | url? |
| 16:01.37 | muthu | michaelnovakjr congrats!! |
| 16:01.52 | michaelnovakjr__ | kidding guys, you are too easy |
| 16:02.03 | muthu | ** checking email |
| 16:02.03 | michaelnovakjr__ | read what he said again |
| 16:02.08 | muthu | its me!!! |
| 16:02.15 | muthu | holy cow!! |
| 16:02.34 | muthu | ** buys interviewing myself |
| 16:02.37 | muthu | ** busy |
| 16:02.46 | ligi | *rofl* |
| 16:03.01 | muthu | lol |
| 16:03.47 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 16:03.54 | Dougie187 | you guys are going crazy with anticipation |
| 16:04.03 | michaelnovakjr__ | :) |
| 16:04.13 | michaelnovakjr__ | you should have been here when dan cracked his joke |
| 16:04.15 | muthu | Dougie187: this is the next best thing to winning |
| 16:04.17 | Dougie187 | what joke? |
| 16:04.22 | michaelnovakjr__ | i think everyone fell off the chair |
| 16:04.43 | michaelnovakjr__ | (11:48:32 AM) michaelnovakjr__: i don't want to get my hopes up again :) |
| 16:04.43 | michaelnovakjr__ | (11:48:44 AM) dmoffett: I thought once the judges turned in their results it had to go to lega? |
| 16:04.43 | michaelnovakjr__ | (11:48:49 AM) dmoffett: legal. |
| 16:04.43 | michaelnovakjr__ | (11:49:09 AM) michaelnovakjr__: i'd say its a very small chance they will come tomorrow |
| 16:04.43 | michaelnovakjr__ | (11:49:22 AM) muthu: legal will be country check |
| 16:04.44 | michaelnovakjr__ | (11:49:34 AM) muthu: where the submissions came from |
| 16:04.46 | michaelnovakjr__ | (11:49:37 AM) michaelnovakjr__: i was siked for monday, and don't want to go through that again |
| 16:04.48 | michaelnovakjr__ | (11:49:56 AM) muthu: michaelnovakjr may 7, may 7, may 7 |
| 16:04.50 | michaelnovakjr__ | (11:50:05 AM) muthu: lol |
| 16:04.52 | michaelnovakjr__ | (11:50:09 AM) michaelnovakjr__: haha |
| 16:04.54 | michaelnovakjr__ | (11:51:22 AM) michaelnovakjr__: muthu, the sms services are coming along, release date is looking like friday for the service |
| 16:04.57 | michaelnovakjr__ | (11:51:32 AM) morrildl: muthu: no, it's May 6 today |
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| 16:05.37 | michaelnovakjr__ | as you can see, its been fun :) |
| 16:05.40 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 16:06.20 | michaelnovakjr__ | i wonder if one of them leaked it to the forums yet |
| 16:06.57 | muthu | actually i asked dan, is it may 7? |
| 16:07.12 | michaelnovakjr__ | and... |
| 16:07.13 | muthu | he said, no its May 6 today |
| 16:07.20 | muthu | that's the joke |
| 16:07.30 | muthu | and he left |
| 16:07.37 | michaelnovakjr__ | when did you ask him? |
| 16:07.53 | muthu | michaelnovakjr check the thread, there's a direct message to him |
| 16:08.17 | michaelnovakjr__ | ah so then he was serious |
| 16:08.35 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 16:08.35 | muthu | now what this means is, its not before may 9 |
| 16:08.36 | michaelnovakjr__ | he said may 6 cause that's cali time and said today as well for those over seas |
| 16:08.54 | michaelnovakjr__ | its today :) |
| 16:08.58 | ligi | but "It's May 6" would be a cool topic for a post to the android-challenge-group actually |
| 16:09.18 | Dougie187 | you would just make everyone mad again though. |
| 16:09.46 | Dougie187 | from what i hear they are already just complaining about the whole judging process. |
| 16:10.03 | michaelnovakjr__ | :) |
| 16:10.12 | michaelnovakjr__ | boo hoo! :) |
| 16:10.16 | ligi | Dougie187: thats not so bad - will give us free Android Phones ,-) |
| 16:10.33 | ligi | for calming us down |
| 16:10.34 | michaelnovakjr__ | yea, they are built by Microsoft |
| 16:11.28 | michaelnovakjr__ | the results will come when they are ready....until then have a beer and play Call of Duty! |
| 16:11.35 | michaelnovakjr__ | or work... |
| 16:11.35 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 16:11.36 | Dougie187 | HALO |
| 16:11.40 | michaelnovakjr__ | haha |
| 16:11.48 | Dougie187 | im playing mario kart right now |
| 16:11.51 | poffy | or study for finals |
| 16:11.53 | Dougie187 | people who play mario kart online are terrible |
| 16:12.08 | michaelnovakjr__ | poffy. yea if you are still in school sure :) |
| 16:12.13 | Dougie187 | poffy: what level of school? |
| 16:12.20 | poffy | College |
| 16:12.25 | Dougie187 | nice |
| 16:12.32 | Dougie187 | what kinda classes are you taking? |
| 16:12.58 | poffy | Well, as this is my first year, I had to take a simple programming class |
| 16:13.01 | poffy | Programming Fundamentals I |
| 16:13.05 | ligi | http://feeds.engadget.com/~r/weblogsinc/engadget/~3/284737906/ |
| 16:13.11 | poffy | I don't think I have a grade below a 94 |
| 16:13.13 | poffy | er |
| 16:13.14 | poffy | 95 |
| 16:13.20 | ligi | "And of course, we had to ask about Android: the first device is (still) coming later this year, but it will not br in the form of the Diamond." |
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| 16:16.26 | Dougie187 | nice |
| 16:16.32 | Dougie187 | what are you learning in it? |
| 16:17.02 | poffy | It's C++ |
| 16:17.11 | poffy | but we aren't even going to get to pointers :| |
| 16:17.17 | poffy | Which I'm pretty good with. |
| 16:17.26 | Dougie187 | Lol |
| 16:17.33 | Dougie187 | sounds like cake |
| 16:17.33 | poffy | Pointers and classes will be covered in Programming Fundamentals II |
| 16:17.37 | poffy | indeed, it is |
| 16:18.00 | Dougie187 | I wonder what carriers are getting that Diamond |
| 16:18.08 | michaelnovakjr__ | poffy, no C? |
| 16:18.19 | Dougie187 | lol noone teaches c anymore. |
| 16:18.20 | poffy | eh a little C |
| 16:18.21 | Dougie187 | its all c++ |
| 16:18.26 | Dougie187 | thats like asking if they learn fortran. |
| 16:18.32 | michaelnovakjr__ | disappointing |
| 16:18.39 | michaelnovakjr__ | seeing Linux is still written in C |
| 16:18.40 | Dougie187 | c++ teaches you c, and oop |
| 16:18.45 | michaelnovakjr__ | not really |
| 16:18.51 | Dougie187 | for the most part. |
| 16:18.56 | michaelnovakjr__ | c++ adds a layer of crap on true C programming |
| 16:18.57 | Dougie187 | i mean you dont really get structs and stuff |
| 16:19.23 | Dougie187 | but if you learn c++ without streams then you can easily learn c |
| 16:19.44 | Dougie187 | streams, are in my opinion one huge difference. |
| 16:19.58 | Dougie187 | but also universityies want students to learn the idea of OOP |
| 16:20.05 | michaelnovakjr__ | you could, but i always thought its smarter to learn c and then go into c++ looking at all the oop concepts without worrying about C stuff |
| 16:20.29 | Dougie187 | I learned it C -> Java -> C++ |
| 16:20.31 | Dougie187 | personally |
| 16:20.34 | Dougie187 | and i didnt have an issue with it. |
| 16:20.35 | poffy | Weird. |
| 16:20.39 | poffy | I learned |
| 16:20.40 | Dougie187 | but I also didnt learn C in university |
| 16:20.44 | poffy | C -> C++ -> Java |
| 16:20.56 | Dougie187 | I hadnt seen c++ until this year actually |
| 16:21.05 | poffy | Java was really easy after learning C++ |
| 16:21.07 | Dougie187 | first term of grad school |
| 16:21.14 | Dougie187 | but then again, i wasnt CS |
| 16:21.49 | michaelnovakjr__ | i <3 C |
| 16:21.53 | Dougie187 | me too |
| 16:21.59 | Dougie187 | C is by far my favorite |
| 16:22.06 | michaelnovakjr__ | totally |
| 16:22.08 | Dougie187 | though, i like being able to do new in C++ |
| 16:22.13 | Dougie187 | rather than malloc |
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| 16:22.57 | michaelnovakjr__ | i don't mind malloc |
| 16:22.58 | Dougie187 | man. |
| 16:23.01 | Dougie187 | i want my laptop back |
| 16:23.03 | Dougie187 | i dont either. |
| 16:23.06 | Dougie187 | i just think new is easier |
| 16:23.07 | michaelnovakjr__ | still waiting huh? |
| 16:23.13 | Dougie187 | yeah its making me mad. |
| 16:23.21 | Dougie187 | been 5 days and they havent updated the status |
| 16:23.31 | Dougie187 | its been there a week actually |
| 16:23.36 | michaelnovakjr__ | that sucks |
| 16:23.44 | Dougie187 | i would think you could easily diagnose and repair a laptop within 2 days |
| 16:23.55 | Dougie187 | personally i know you can because ive done that crap before. |
| 16:26.27 | Dougie187 | I actually did take a data structures class that was taught in c |
| 16:26.45 | Dougie187 | that class was awesome |
| 16:27.52 | Dougie187 | once i get my laptop back. im going to start writing an android app |
| 16:27.55 | Dougie187 | for adc2 |
| 16:28.19 | michaelnovakjr__ | Dougie187: i plan to start another one very soon too |
| 16:28.25 | Dougie187 | nice |
| 16:28.28 | Dougie187 | any idea what your going to do? |
| 16:28.33 | michaelnovakjr__ | not yet :) |
| 16:28.34 | Dougie187 | or is it secret? |
| 16:28.36 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 16:28.49 | michaelnovakjr__ | no secret.... it'll be something not done yet and open source :) |
| 16:28.50 | Dougie187 | you should copy jasta's "Anti Ex-GF" idea |
| 16:28.57 | michaelnovakjr__ | haha |
| 16:29.42 | Dougie187 | Tax Rebate checks this friday, for some people. |
| 16:29.46 | Dougie187 | myself included |
| 16:30.00 | michaelnovakjr__ | i don't get one :) |
| 16:30.05 | Dougie187 | bust how come? |
| 16:30.16 | michaelnovakjr__ | didn't fall into the salary bracket |
| 16:30.38 | Dougie187 | on the irs' website it just says you have to make more then 3000 in qualified expenses in 2007 |
| 16:30.42 | Dougie187 | no upper limit. |
| 16:30.58 | michaelnovakjr__ | yea? |
| 16:31.09 | michaelnovakjr__ | i was told there was a limit? do you have to do anything for it? |
| 16:31.10 | Dougie187 | Are you eligible? The vast majority of people who file a 2007 income tax return qualify, and many who don't regularly file a tax return may qualify as well. You're eligible if you have a valid Social Security Number (SSN), can't be claimed as a dependent on a tax return and have either an income tax liability or "qualifying income" of at least $3,000. Qualifying income includes any combination of earned income and certain benefits fro |
| 16:31.10 | Dougie187 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:31.10 | Dougie187 | Both people listed on a "married filing jointly" return must have valid SSNs to qualify for the payment — if only one has a valid SSN, neither can receive the payment. |
| 16:31.39 | michaelnovakjr__ | looks like i fit into that |
| 16:31.46 | Dougie187 | Did you file for 2007? |
| 16:32.06 | michaelnovakjr__ | yes |
| 16:32.15 | Dougie187 | you get Direct Deposite? or Paper Check? |
| 16:32.19 | michaelnovakjr__ | direct |
| 16:32.23 | Dougie187 | http://www.irs.gov/irs/article/0,,id=180250,00.html |
| 16:32.28 | Dougie187 | you can see when you should get yours then |
| 16:32.57 | michaelnovakjr__ | hm, i didn't need to fill anything out with them? |
| 16:33.06 | Dougie187 | nope |
| 16:33.08 | Dougie187 | they send it to you |
| 16:33.12 | Dougie187 | as long as you filed for 2007 |
| 16:33.26 | michaelnovakjr__ | ah, i would get mine june 6 |
| 16:33.30 | Dougie187 | no. |
| 16:33.33 | Dougie187 | thats paper checks |
| 16:33.38 | Dougie187 | you get yours friday |
| 16:33.38 | michaelnovakjr__ | my tax returns came back with paper checks though |
| 16:33.49 | Dougie187 | i thought you said you do direct deposit |
| 16:33.55 | michaelnovakjr__ | i misunderstood |
| 16:33.58 | Dougie187 | oh |
| 16:33.58 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 16:33.59 | Dougie187 | ok |
| 16:34.00 | Dougie187 | then yes |
| 16:34.00 | michaelnovakjr__ | haha |
| 16:34.02 | Dougie187 | june 6th |
| 16:34.04 | michaelnovakjr__ | interesting |
| 16:34.06 | Dougie187 | so you have about a month to wiat |
| 16:34.07 | Dougie187 | wait |
| 16:34.17 | Dougie187 | most people get theirs friday |
| 16:34.20 | Dougie187 | (for dd at least) |
| 16:34.30 | Dougie187 | pretty sweet though |
| 16:34.32 | michaelnovakjr__ | yea |
| 16:34.35 | Dougie187 | everyone get an extra 600 bucks |
| 16:34.45 | Dougie187 | 1200 for couples |
| 16:35.06 | Dougie187 | though they say 300-600 for individuals and 600 - 1200 for couples |
| 16:35.21 | Dougie187 | but from what i have heard everyone who is an individual has gotten 600 |
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| 16:35.32 | michaelnovakjr__ | nice |
| 16:35.34 | Dougie187 | i guess if you make a lot you might only get 300 |
| 16:36.35 | michaelnovakjr__ | yea :( |
| 16:36.39 | Dougie187 | but still |
| 16:36.42 | Dougie187 | moneys money |
| 16:37.06 | michaelnovakjr__ | absolutely :) |
| 16:42.13 | michaelnovakjr__ | and the results are.... |
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| 16:50.13 | poffy | morrildl, you created a storm of confusion |
| 16:50.23 | michaelnovakjr__ | haha |
| 16:50.43 | morrildl | O RLY |
| 16:51.32 | poffy | http://rafb.net/p/r1qyLQ48.html |
| 16:51.35 | poffy | Just some of it |
| 16:51.36 | poffy | heh |
| 16:51.50 | michaelnovakjr__ | muthu thought you said the results are today morrildl |
| 16:52.48 | dmoffett | Of course that is not very hard with about 83 very pumped up developers on this irc. :-) |
| 16:52.49 | davanum | fyi, they got JavaFX running on Android |
| 16:52.54 | davanum | http://www.ustream.tv/sun |
| 16:53.15 | morrildl | yes, today is May 6th |
| 16:53.17 | davanum | Rich Green just demoed it |
| 16:53.19 | michaelnovakjr__ | haha |
| 16:53.25 | poffy | Indeed |
| 16:53.26 | morrildl | I guess that's only true where I am though, so I can see how there might be confusion :P |
| 16:53.27 | poffy | May 8th |
| 16:53.30 | Lede | morrildl: are you excited as we are? |
| 16:53.31 | poffy | er |
| 16:53.33 | poffy | May 6th |
| 16:53.35 | poffy | indeed |
| 16:53.55 | michaelnovakjr__ | morrildl: you guys should announce the top 100 today :) |
| 16:54.05 | Lede | gives morrildl some nervousness |
| 16:54.13 | morrildl | Lede: I am excited to have it be over ;) |
| 16:54.18 | Lede | :P |
| 16:54.24 | morrildl | hee hee |
| 16:54.32 | michaelnovakjr__ | morrildl: all the more reason to push out that top 100 :) |
| 16:54.42 | morrildl | anyway yeah it should kick ass, there are some nice apps in there |
| 16:54.47 | davanum | morrildl: did you know about this already? JavaFX on Android? |
| 16:55.01 | morrildl | davanum: know about what? |
| 16:55.17 | davanum | Sun got JavaFX ported to run on Android |
| 16:55.43 | davanum | http://www.sun.com/software/javafx/index.jsp |
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| 16:56.05 | Lede | what is JavaFX? |
| 16:56.14 | davanum | Rich Green - JavaOne Keynote - just saw a demo - http://www.ustream.tv/sun |
| 16:56.22 | morrildl | davanum: which part of JavaFX? |
| 16:57.11 | davanum | hard to figure out...need to figure out. definited looked like a native UI. not browser based |
| 16:57.30 | morrildl | well, they're more than welcome to :) |
| 16:57.40 | morrildl | davanum: did they show something running on the emulator or something? |
| 16:58.00 | romainguy_ | I'm bummed I couldn't go to the keynote |
| 16:58.02 | davanum | morrildl: yep on the emulator |
| 16:58.05 | morrildl | nifty |
| 16:58.15 | morrildl | they should have submitted it to the ADC ;) |
| 16:58.25 | davanum | hehe, that's why i asked :) |
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| 17:00.44 | michaelnovakjr__ | i am excited for these results! I can't wait for it to be over |
| 17:04.00 | Lede | i am excited to hear i didn't won so i can go on with my life :o) |
| 17:04.36 | michaelnovakjr__ | haHA |
| 17:05.49 | michaelnovakjr__ | the suspense is driving me crazy |
| 17:06.48 | muthu | wow, javafx on android |
| 17:06.51 | muthu | cool |
| 17:06.55 | muthu | we don't need flash then |
| 17:07.04 | Lede | .. |
| 17:07.12 | Lede | you think youtube isnt needed? |
| 17:07.39 | muthu | Lede: that on the web |
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| 17:08.32 | muthu | finally sun making the moves |
| 17:08.36 | muthu | * right moves |
| 17:08.54 | michaelnovakjr__ | Sun is going to do very well this year i think |
| 17:09.07 | muthu | if they are embracing android, yes |
| 17:09.17 | muthu | then they get it |
| 17:11.01 | michaelnovakjr__ | i like Sun |
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| 17:21.48 | muthu_ | davanum: thanks for the javafx news |
| 17:26.36 | davidw | what's with sun "getting X running on Y" |
| 17:26.52 | davidw | it's almost like...they have no confidence in their own platform:-/ |
| 17:27.12 | davidw | reboots...hopefully into the new ubuntu! |
| 17:27.18 | muthu_ | davidw: fx on android makes sense |
| 17:27.36 | michaelnovakjr__ | makes lots of sense |
| 17:28.22 | muthu_ | hopefully fx helps build rich media apps quickly |
| 17:30.07 | davanum | muthu: twas quite a surprise when i saw romainguy_'s emulator background photo pop up :) |
| 17:30.32 | muthu_ | davanum: should be haha |
| 17:30.35 | romainguy_ | davanum: ^^ |
| 17:30.40 | muthu_ | what's the example app they ran? |
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| 17:31.13 | muthu_ | romainguy_ javafx coming to android.. sun demoed it today, at javaone on the emulator |
| 17:31.15 | davidw | that wasn't so bad |
| 17:31.20 | romainguy_ | muthu_: I saw :) |
| 17:31.27 | davidw | muthu_, so why does it make sense on android? |
| 17:31.36 | muthu_ | cool |
| 17:31.43 | muthu_ | davidw: to quickly build RIA |
| 17:32.25 | davanum | muthu_: they had some social app they showed on the desktop and a PDA and then they showed it on Android |
| 17:32.27 | davidw | RIA? |
| 17:32.57 | muthu_ | davanum: hmm cool sun keeps tab on android |
| 17:33.14 | muthu_ | davidw: Rich Internet Apps on clients |
| 17:33.22 | davidw | you can do that with Hecl |
| 17:33.26 | michaelnovakjr__ | haha |
| 17:33.45 | muthu_ | Hecl has a UI? |
| 17:34.00 | michaelnovakjr__ | java is used a bit more i think |
| 17:34.24 | davidw | muthu_, in what sense? |
| 17:34.55 | muthu_ | to quickly put an app together |
| 17:35.16 | davidw | ah, you mean an IDE/gui builder thing |
| 17:35.25 | muthu_ | davidw: yeah even the api's |
| 17:35.43 | muthu_ | like programming flash |
| 17:35.52 | davidw | what do you mean 'even the apis' ? I've never done flash |
| 17:36.19 | michaelnovakjr__ | so then how does hecl support RIA development? |
| 17:36.44 | muthu_ | davidw: i think you mean writing internet app is easier in hecl |
| 17:36.49 | davidw | I'm kind of not getting what muthu_ is saying |
| 17:36.57 | davidw | writing lots of things is easier in Hecl |
| 17:37.17 | michaelnovakjr__ | even flash or flex based applications? |
| 17:37.23 | michaelnovakjr__ | thats RIA |
| 17:37.31 | davidw | ahh, ok I wasn't familiar with that term |
| 17:37.40 | davidw | does javafx do that though? |
| 17:37.44 | muthu_ | yup |
| 17:37.57 | muthu_ | that's why i'm saying its huge |
| 17:38.06 | muthu_ | flash / air / silverlight etc., |
| 17:38.10 | muthu_ | not there yet |
| 17:38.17 | muthu_ | so java has this early mover thing |
| 17:38.21 | muthu_ | i mean fx |
| 17:38.34 | davidw | hrm, I'll have to investigate more... |
| 17:38.38 | davidw | the language seems ok |
| 17:38.47 | romainguy_ | JavaFX has a special language for UIs |
| 17:38.54 | muthu_ | right |
| 17:38.57 | romainguy_ | the language itself knows about animations, binding, etc. |
| 17:39.00 | davidw | sort of like javascript gets into a car wreck, with the declarative UI stuff, which is nice |
| 17:39.03 | romainguy_ | it has really powerful feature |
| 17:39.22 | mnel_work | too bad that HTC didn't reveal dream today. :( |
| 17:39.24 | muthu_ | then we can all program fx, and ditch romainguy_ UI thingy ;) |
| 17:39.44 | muthu_ | no activity, view stuff |
| 17:39.46 | muthu_ | haha |
| 17:40.11 | michaelnovakjr__ | good luck with that |
| 17:40.29 | muthu_ | and finally what you get is, you can run your fx app wherever fx runs |
| 17:40.51 | muthu_ | mobile, web, pda's, oven etc., |
| 17:42.22 | michaelnovakjr__ | on my phone too? |
| 17:42.33 | muthu_ | that's what adobe, msft is fighting for |
| 17:42.41 | muthu_ | with flash, silverlight etc., |
| 17:42.52 | muthu_ | michaelnovakjr your phone too |
| 17:43.00 | michaelnovakjr__ | :) |
| 17:43.09 | michaelnovakjr__ | haha |
| 17:43.30 | muthu_ | only catch is no one know how cool fx is |
| 17:43.34 | davidw | we'll see... |
| 17:43.43 | muthu_ | is it better than flash? |
| 17:43.47 | muthu_ | better than silverlight? |
| 17:43.51 | michaelnovakjr__ | wait for HeclFX |
| 17:43.56 | davidw | never underestimate sun's ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory |
| 17:44.03 | muthu_ | lol |
| 17:44.10 | muthu_ | heclFAX |
| 17:44.40 | muthu_ | davidw: good point |
| 17:44.53 | muthu_ | they'll screw it up finally |
| 17:46.04 | muthu_ | adobe will have big plans for android.. can't wait to see |
| 17:46.16 | michaelnovakjr__ | how do you know |
| 17:46.42 | muthu_ | michaelnovakjr you think they'll be ignoring android? |
| 17:46.45 | davidw | I kind of loathe flash:-/ |
| 17:46.59 | michaelnovakjr__ | i am not sure, they might just do what they do for all the other platforms |
| 17:47.00 | Dougie187 | i think flash is pretty cool |
| 17:47.16 | Dougie187 | lol they could make a flash on top bug like they have with linux |
| 17:47.21 | muthu_ | android is going to be big |
| 17:47.28 | muthu_ | and everyone is going grab that share |
| 17:47.30 | Dougie187 | at least you hope |
| 17:47.45 | Dougie187 | at least i hope as well though |
| 17:47.51 | muthu_ | Dougie187: right |
| 17:47.55 | muthu_ | its going to be interesting |
| 17:48.18 | muthu_ | no single player is going to monopolize though |
| 17:48.38 | Dougie187 | I hope it knocks out windows mobile. |
| 17:49.01 | muthu_ | Dougie187: hope so |
| 17:49.15 | Dougie187 | at least people can write apps so it integrates with every os easily |
| 17:49.22 | Dougie187 | whereas stupid windows mobile doesnt. |
| 17:49.32 | Dougie187 | though i bet google will do that already |
| 17:49.59 | muthu_ | google will do what? |
| 17:50.06 | muthu_ | goog gave us android |
| 17:50.07 | michaelnovakjr__ | there needs to be a mobile/web video streaming standard |
| 17:50.25 | Dougie187 | make android apps so it integrates with all oses easily |
| 17:50.27 | michaelnovakjr__ | **open source standard |
| 17:50.32 | Dougie187 | for file sharing, and tethering |
| 17:50.49 | muthu_ | Dougie187: what are you talking about? |
| 17:50.57 | Dougie187 | Ok.. |
| 17:51.00 | muthu_ | android apps integrating with other O/S? |
| 17:51.03 | Dougie187 | Windows mobile.. |
| 17:51.21 | Dougie187 | Windows Mobile doesnt easily let you talk to a linux computer for file sharing and tethering apps |
| 17:51.44 | muthu_ | the objective of android is to get rid of all other mobile o/s |
| 17:51.50 | Dougie187 | ... |
| 17:52.00 | Dougie187 | thats not a resonable objective though |
| 17:52.08 | michaelnovakjr__ | not at all |
| 17:52.12 | Dougie187 | i think the objective is more to make a cheap alternative that is feature rich |
| 17:52.13 | michaelnovakjr__ | it won't ever happen |
| 17:52.22 | Dougie187 | and user friendly |
| 17:52.38 | michaelnovakjr__ | yes, but it will never be the only mobile o/s |
| 17:52.38 | Dougie187 | that way they wont have to pay a license fee for something that sucks balls |
| 17:52.44 | Dougie187 | i agree |
| 17:52.53 | Dougie187 | some cell makers will choose to use windows mobile |
| 17:53.01 | Dougie187 | or maybe they have some agreement with msft |
| 17:53.13 | Dougie187 | but also android is "supposed" to allow for cheaper versions of smart phones. |
| 17:53.21 | Dougie187 | because the os won't cost so much any more |
| 17:53.25 | muthu_ | if the mobile oem's can freely boot android, why will they go to msft? |
| 17:53.35 | Dougie187 | because they wont have to pay for it. |
| 17:53.38 | Dougie187 | the end user will |
| 17:53.51 | Dougie187 | and if cell carriers will sell their stuff people will still by it |
| 17:54.03 | Dougie187 | plus, some people don't like google, similar to how some people don't like msft |
| 17:54.12 | Dougie187 | (granted its not as wide spread) |
| 17:54.23 | Dougie187 | but those people would refuse to buy an android phone |
| 17:54.31 | muthu_ | i can predict one thing |
| 17:54.38 | Dougie187 | and im sure android will lack some feature that some people will want |
| 17:54.43 | muthu_ | there's going to be a lot of android phones in the next couple of years |
| 17:54.49 | Dougie187 | and those people wouldnt know how to program and add that feature in for themselves |
| 17:55.01 | Dougie187 | True, but android is not goign to be the only os |
| 17:55.10 | muthu_ | right |
| 17:55.19 | Dougie187 | also, a lot of developers have their own os that they developed. |
| 17:55.22 | Dougie187 | RIM for instance |
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| 17:55.41 | Dougie187 | they probably would rather use the one they paid for then use a free one google developed |
| 17:55.57 | muthu_ | it depends on the carriers though |
| 17:55.58 | jasta | *WHOA* |
| 17:56.09 | Dougie187 | no it doesnt. |
| 17:56.10 | muthu_ | jasta: how was the party? |
| 17:56.11 | jasta | i am SOOOOO hungover |
| 17:56.14 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 17:56.17 | muthu_ | hehe |
| 17:56.24 | Dougie187 | i wish i could smack your head |
| 17:56.25 | jasta | i still feel drunk! |
| 17:56.35 | michaelnovakjr__ | that sounds like fun |
| 17:56.35 | muthu_ | jasta: what you had? |
| 17:57.26 | jasta | mostly whiskey and beer |
| 17:57.38 | jasta | but apparently way too much of it! |
| 17:57.59 | muthu_ | that's a party then |
| 17:58.39 | Lede | "i am so hungover" lol |
| 17:59.45 | Dougie187 | im bored |
| 17:59.48 | Dougie187 | i want linux back |
| 18:00.11 | Dougie187 | will someone buy me a new laptop with their winnings? |
| 18:00.19 | Dougie187 | ;) |
| 18:00.43 | muthu_ | Dougie187: sure |
| 18:00.48 | Dougie187 | nice |
| 18:00.59 | Dougie187 | not an olpc though |
| 18:01.17 | muthu_ | what you have in mind? |
| 18:01.24 | Dougie187 | lenovo thinkpad r61 |
| 18:01.33 | Dougie187 | w/ nvidia nvs |
| 18:01.40 | Dougie187 | its only like $730 |
| 18:01.47 | muthu_ | that's it.. cool |
| 18:01.52 | Dougie187 | i price it about twice an hour |
| 18:02.20 | Dougie187 | what kinda laptop do you have? |
| 18:02.27 | Dougie187 | or do you have a desktop |
| 18:02.45 | muthu_ | i have a cheap hp-compaq |
| 18:02.52 | muthu_ | and an old dell laptop |
| 18:02.56 | Dougie187 | if you win are you gonna get a new one? |
| 18:03.17 | muthu_ | i'm ok with mine |
| 18:03.24 | muthu_ | but you'll always want to buy a new one |
| 18:03.46 | Dougie187 | what would you do if you won? |
| 18:03.53 | muthu_ | mine is a team |
| 18:04.01 | muthu_ | so probably i get like 8k |
| 18:04.04 | Dougie187 | how many are on it? just two right? |
| 18:04.10 | muthu_ | yes |
| 18:04.22 | Dougie187 | do they get more than you? |
| 18:04.37 | muthu_ | no |
| 18:04.42 | muthu_ | 50/50 |
| 18:05.01 | muthu_ | remember the taxes |
| 18:05.04 | muthu_ | that's 1/3 gone |
| 18:05.11 | Dougie187 | but your out of the country right? |
| 18:05.42 | muthu_ | right, i partnered with one in SF |
| 18:05.53 | Dougie187 | oh |
| 18:06.03 | Dougie187 | and are they giving the prize to the team captain or splitting it? |
| 18:06.14 | muthu_ | captain, we agree |
| 18:06.19 | Dougie187 | whos the captain |
| 18:06.28 | muthu_ | never really bothered |
| 18:06.33 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 18:06.35 | muthu_ | but if we win, will have to look into it |
| 18:06.38 | Dougie187 | well didnt the captain have to submit things? |
| 18:06.39 | muthu_ | all the legalese |
| 18:06.54 | muthu_ | yes |
| 18:07.01 | muthu_ | SF is the captain |
| 18:07.07 | Dougie187 | oh ok |
| 18:07.12 | Dougie187 | i was just gonna say |
| 18:07.14 | Dougie187 | just my two cents. |
| 18:07.26 | muthu_ | but you can decide how you want the prize |
| 18:07.28 | Dougie187 | but if you get a choice, and you wouldnt have to pay taxes. you should be the captain |
| 18:07.44 | Dougie187 | also, if you had them split it I bet they would split it first, and then take out taxes. |
| 18:08.03 | michaelnovakjr__ | stupid taxes |
| 18:08.05 | Dougie187 | so if you dont pay taxes, you would probably get 12.5k |
| 18:08.07 | muthu_ | right.. winning actually would pose a lot of problems ;) |
| 18:08.22 | Dougie187 | problems worth the money though |
| 18:08.23 | michaelnovakjr__ | my project is non-profit and free software! |
| 18:08.42 | muthu_ | i'm more looking forward to the IO event |
| 18:08.42 | Dougie187 | im pumped for adc2 |
| 18:08.46 | Dougie187 | i didnt know they were making one |
| 18:09.31 | muthu_ | adc2.. that would be fun |
| 18:09.31 | Dougie187 | why do they have to talk about stupid social applications |
| 18:09.44 | Dougie187 | im going to try and submit an app to adc2 |
| 18:09.51 | muthu_ | any idea? |
| 18:09.56 | Dougie187 | yeah |
| 18:10.01 | Dougie187 | the electric fence |
| 18:10.09 | Dougie187 | jasta and I were talking about it a couple of weeks ago |
| 18:10.18 | muthu_ | what? |
| 18:10.39 | Dougie187 | its kinda like parental controls. but based on plan details |
| 18:10.48 | muthu_ | cool |
| 18:10.55 | Dougie187 | if you go over your limits your battery explodes |
| 18:11.05 | muthu_ | woah |
| 18:11.19 | Dougie187 | pretty sweet huh? |
| 18:11.25 | jasta | wait a minute |
| 18:11.30 | Dougie187 | it will teach those bastard children not to go over their minutes. |
| 18:11.30 | muthu_ | the kids would love you |
| 18:11.30 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 18:12.13 | Dougie187 | whats up jasta? |
| 18:12.30 | jasta | whats this post on helloandroid.com? |
| 18:12.42 | jasta | oh, nm, it's just muthu being chatty |
| 18:12.47 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 18:12.56 | muthu_ | jasta: that's for next week |
| 18:13.00 | jasta | im too hungover. i am gonna go to lunch with my brother. |
| 18:13.01 | jasta | later folks |
| 18:13.24 | muthu_ | jasta: no work today? |
| 18:13.34 | Dougie187 | see ya |
| 18:13.39 | morrildl | I think I am hungover too |
| 18:13.43 | morrildl | and I didn't even drink last night |
| 18:13.59 | michaelnovakjr__ | morrildl: that is because you still have the top 100 under wraps.... |
| 18:14.02 | michaelnovakjr__ | :) |
| 18:14.16 | Dougie187 | i bet he is so irritated with comments like that he is keeping it more secret |
| 18:14.18 | Dougie187 | just to spite you |
| 18:14.19 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 18:14.23 | michaelnovakjr__ | haha |
| 18:14.29 | morrildl | Nah |
| 18:14.29 | Dougie187 | he ate it |
| 18:14.31 | Dougie187 | so noone will know |
| 18:14.37 | muthu_ | morrildl: i was "this" close to breaking the may 6 news |
| 18:14.40 | morrildl | But every time I see one, the score goes down a little bit ;) |
| 18:14.46 | Dougie187 | haha |
| 18:14.48 | michaelnovakjr__ | haha |
| 18:14.50 | Dougie187 | they lose a place |
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| 18:14.59 | Dougie187 | see michaelnovakjr__ you did win the competition. |
| 18:15.06 | Dougie187 | but.. after pestering dan so many times. |
| 18:15.12 | Dougie187 | you barely lost. |
| 18:15.16 | Dougie187 | coming it at 51st place |
| 18:15.17 | muthu_ | hehe |
| 18:15.19 | michaelnovakjr__ | haha |
| 18:15.48 | Dougie187 | nerds need to learn patientice |
| 18:15.59 | michaelnovakjr__ | oh yes, but nerds can't! |
| 18:16.52 | Dougie187 | are you married? |
| 18:16.52 | michaelnovakjr__ | me? |
| 18:16.52 | Dougie187 | yes |
| 18:16.52 | michaelnovakjr__ | engaged |
| 18:16.52 | Dougie187 | well. soon enough you will need patientice |
| 18:16.52 | michaelnovakjr__ | that or a corner to hide in |
| 18:16.52 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 18:16.52 | Dougie187 | no a mix |
| 18:16.57 | dmoffett | ear plugs |
| 18:16.59 | Dougie187 | you need a corner to hide in. then you need to be patient and wait in the corner |
| 18:17.29 | muthu_ | morrildl: legal work, done? |
| 18:17.30 | michaelnovakjr__ | haha |
| 18:17.38 | Dougie187 | muthu: -1 place |
| 18:17.50 | morrildl | muthu_-- |
| 18:17.51 | dmoffett | lol |
| 18:17.58 | Dougie187 | now the scoreboard reads muthu - 52nd place |
| 18:18.02 | muthu_ | hehe |
| 18:18.12 | muthu_ | i'm not even sure, if its in 100 |
| 18:18.21 | muthu_ | cooking.. come on |
| 18:18.24 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 18:18.33 | Dougie187 | cooking could be useful |
| 18:18.37 | Dougie187 | more useful than facebook |
| 18:18.40 | Dougie187 | or myspace |
| 18:18.42 | morrildl | dude |
| 18:18.51 | morrildl | win or lose, that app is going on MY device, at least |
| 18:18.58 | muthu_ | woah |
| 18:19.05 | muthu_ | i salute my partner |
| 18:19.09 | morrildl | So is jasta's five :) |
| 18:19.11 | Dougie187 | ok muthu_ now misconstrue that as saying you won. |
| 18:19.18 | Dougie187 | go put it up on your blog |
| 18:19.22 | Dougie187 | and tell everyone that you won |
| 18:19.23 | michaelnovakjr__ | haah |
| 18:19.25 | Dougie187 | and everyone will freak out |
| 18:19.30 | muthu_ | oh oh |
| 18:19.30 | Dougie187 | and say WHAT WHERE ARE THE RESULTS?!?! |
| 18:19.44 | muthu_ | i report only facts |
| 18:19.50 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 18:19.50 | muthu_ | no rumors!! |
| 18:20.02 | michaelnovakjr__ | the site isn't www.helloandroidrumors.com! |
| 18:20.10 | muthu_ | morrildl: you looked at your boss posting today? |
| 18:20.12 | Dougie187 | its helloandroidn.com/rumors |
| 18:20.18 | Dougie187 | helloandroid* |
| 18:20.34 | muthu_ | i mean the motivational post around your boss ;) |
| 18:20.46 | dmoffett | morrildl: So what is your device and when can we get one? :-) |
| 18:20.57 | michaelnovakjr__ | dmoffett: -2 |
| 18:21.00 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 18:21.11 | michaelnovakjr__ | -1 for what is and -1 for when can we get one |
| 18:21.19 | Dougie187 | man dmoffett you just made a facebook app take 50th place |
| 18:21.20 | dmoffett | Taht would put me at 1790 |
| 18:21.21 | Dougie187 | comon. |
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| 18:21.33 | michaelnovakjr__ | haha |
| 18:21.55 | muthu_ | http://helloandroid.com/node/535 |
| 18:22.00 | muthu_ | for those of you who missed it |
| 18:22.03 | michaelnovakjr__ | i have a feeling mine is a little too boring for some people's taste..... i'm expecting 1,787 |
| 18:22.04 | Dougie187 | hey morrildl when you release the results, will you supply people with a denomination of app categories? like social networking and stuff? |
| 18:22.12 | Dougie187 | USEFUL though |
| 18:22.20 | Dougie187 | Yours can save lives. |
| 18:22.24 | Dougie187 | thus very useful |
| 18:22.40 | Dougie187 | i want to see how many facebook and myspace apps there were |
| 18:22.42 | morrildl | muthu_: who, Andy Rubin? or my actual manager? |
| 18:22.49 | michaelnovakjr__ | Dougie187: i hope none |
| 18:22.53 | muthu_ | morrildl: lol |
| 18:22.59 | Dougie187 | you know there were some |
| 18:23.04 | michaelnovakjr__ | myspace and facebook should die |
| 18:23.09 | Dougie187 | true |
| 18:23.20 | Dougie187 | but you know in your heart that someone submitted at least one facebook and myspace app |
| 18:23.21 | muthu_ | read the post and click the link |
| 18:23.29 | michaelnovakjr__ | Dougie187: of course |
| 18:23.59 | morrildl | muthu_: oh, that :) I like how his page says "I am currently at Google" |
| 18:24.03 | Dougie187 | i just want it to be quantified |
| 18:24.13 | morrildl | I think he could remove the word 'at' to increase accuracy ;) |
| 18:24.18 | Dougie187 | heh thats what i said yesterday morrildl |
| 18:24.25 | muthu_ | morrildl: oh yeah, that was the inspiration for the post |
| 18:24.35 | muthu_ | after i saw that, wanted to write something around it |
| 18:24.57 | muthu_ | and what better crowd to address, than the people who might have lost and thus dejected |
| 18:25.02 | michaelnovakjr__ | i want someone to write.... the winners have been announced! |
| 18:25.17 | Dougie187 | The winners have been announced! |
| 18:25.23 | michaelnovakjr__ | haha |
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| 18:25.43 | muthu_ | and the homepage reminds me my school days |
| 18:25.52 | Dougie187 | you should greet everyone who joins the channel by "OMG ____ Did you win?!?!" |
| 18:26.01 | muthu_ | that's how the homepages where those days |
| 18:26.04 | Dougie187 | write an irc bot for it |
| 18:26.49 | michaelnovakjr__ | www.youdidnotwin.com |
| 18:26.55 | Dougie187 | duh |
| 18:26.57 | Dougie187 | i know i didnt win |
| 18:26.59 | michaelnovakjr__ | haha. |
| 18:27.10 | Dougie187 | the question is. |
| 18:27.11 | Dougie187 | did you win? |
| 18:27.18 | muthu_ | michaelnovakjr does it ever say, that someone win? |
| 18:27.33 | michaelnovakjr__ | haha not that i know of |
| 18:27.48 | muthu_ | its not yours? |
| 18:27.54 | michaelnovakjr__ | ;) |
| 18:28.03 | Dougie187 | its called youdidnotwin.com |
| 18:28.17 | Dougie187 | i would think of it as contradictory if someone actually won |
| 18:28.42 | muthu_ | haha |
| 18:28.58 | Dougie187 | i would be confused if it told me I won |
| 18:29.01 | Dougie187 | i would be like wtf. |
| 18:29.09 | muthu_ | so its only for entering others apps huh? |
| 18:29.09 | Dougie187 | www.youdidnotwin.com didnt work. it said i Did win. |
| 18:29.46 | Dougie187 | michaelnovakjr__: halo? |
| 18:29.55 | michaelnovakjr__ | halo? |
| 18:29.59 | Dougie187 | halo? |
| 18:30.06 | michaelnovakjr__ | halo for android? |
| 18:30.10 | Dougie187 | no |
| 18:30.12 | Dougie187 | halo? |
| 18:30.36 | Dougie187 | would you like to play halo? |
| 18:30.45 | michaelnovakjr__ | oh, i'm at the office :( |
| 18:30.49 | Dougie187 | bust |
| 18:30.52 | michaelnovakjr__ | yea |
| 18:30.56 | michaelnovakjr__ | stupid office |
| 18:31.01 | Dougie187 | is prison mike there? |
| 18:31.55 | michaelnovakjr__ | yea, he's in the corner twitching |
| 18:32.00 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 18:32.15 | michaelnovakjr__ | saying 'dont drop the soap!' |
| 18:32.21 | Dougie187 | heh |
| 18:32.32 | Dougie187 | what a perverted fellow |
| 18:32.37 | michaelnovakjr__ | haha |
| 18:32.43 | Dougie187 | that is the only think on prison mikes mind though |
| 18:32.57 | Dougie187 | he certainly isnt worried about winning the adc |
| 18:33.09 | michaelnovakjr__ | not at all :) or finding out the results! |
| 18:33.18 | Dougie187 | nope |
| 18:33.22 | Dougie187 | btw... -1 |
| 18:33.41 | michaelnovakjr__ | haha |
| 18:33.48 | michaelnovakjr__ | damn 1,791 |
| 18:34.00 | Dougie187 | lol isnt that lower than the number of apps submitted? |
| 18:34.13 | michaelnovakjr__ | :) |
| 18:34.30 | Kraln | pokes muthu_ |
| 18:34.44 | muthu_ | Kraln: hey bud |
| 18:34.46 | Dougie187 | your app was so bad they made a special place for it |
| 18:34.55 | Dougie187 | Hey Karln the results were announced |
| 18:35.00 | Kraln | oh really? |
| 18:35.07 | Dougie187 | yup ask michaelnovakjr__ |
| 18:39.05 | michaelnovakjr__ | ? |
| 18:39.26 | michaelnovakjr__ | oh yea Kraln i am 1,791 on the list |
| 18:42.57 | michaelnovakjr__ | have no fear muthu_ said may 6th is the day for the announcment |
| 18:43.07 | michaelnovakjr__ | announcment +e |
| 18:43.16 | muthu_ | michaelnovakjr you believe that? |
| 18:43.33 | michaelnovakjr__ | eh, not really.... its more just hopeful |
| 18:43.40 | michaelnovakjr__ | i doubt it very much :( |
| 18:43.43 | muthu_ | am guess may 9 now |
| 18:43.56 | muthu_ | since dan is making a joke about may 7 |
| 18:44.18 | michaelnovakjr__ | may 9 makes more sense |
| 18:44.28 | Lede | yeah |
| 18:44.28 | muthu_ | weekend |
| 18:44.38 | Lede | they don't work in the weekend |
| 18:45.08 | muthu_ | it can't go beyond may 9.. then phase II would suffer |
| 18:45.10 | michaelnovakjr__ | may 9 is a friday here |
| 18:45.23 | Lede | .. |
| 18:45.27 | michaelnovakjr__ | or well everywhere :) |
| 18:45.27 | Dougie187 | man i just schooled these kids at swords on snowbound |
| 18:45.40 | muthu_ | haha |
| 18:45.41 | michaelnovakjr__ | what i mean is may 9 in calie |
| 18:45.55 | Dougie187 | what are you talkingabout? |
| 18:46.01 | michaelnovakjr__ | i have no idea |
| 18:46.05 | michaelnovakjr__ | i am mumbling now |
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| 18:46.16 | muthu_ | lol |
| 18:46.21 | muthu_ | michaelnovakjr gone insane |
| 18:46.45 | michaelnovakjr__ | yea |
| 18:47.22 | Lede | wonders how people will react if they didnt win |
| 18:47.38 | michaelnovakjr__ | Lede, preparing for that :) |
| 18:49.47 | muthu_ | allright, another long day tomorrow |
| 18:49.54 | muthu_ | goodnight folks |
| 18:49.58 | Dougie187 | i think most people are preparing for that |
| 18:50.00 | Dougie187 | night muthu_ |
| 18:50.02 | michaelnovakjr__ | enjoy |
| 18:56.12 | Kraln | muthu hilariously set his root password to something |
| 18:56.17 | Kraln | and didn't remember what it was. |
| 18:56.26 | jerkface03 | poontang? |
| 18:56.34 | Kraln | my cellphone goes off "I forgot my root password" |
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| 18:56.40 | Kraln | but of course it was worded like it was my fault somehow |
| 18:57.24 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 19:03.46 | davidw | wow, this new firefox history behavior is hyper annoying |
| 19:03.58 | davidw | hahhaha |
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| 19:05.14 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 19:05.20 | Dougie187 | how it drops down a list of sites |
| 19:05.23 | Dougie187 | and they are huge boxes? |
| 19:05.46 | Dougie187 | then 3/4 of your screen is history boxes? |
| 19:06.02 | davidw | yeah |
| 19:06.15 | davidw | and it seems to search on the title too |
| 19:07.42 | Dougie187 | your not big on 450 boob pages coming up when your wfie types bo? |
| 19:07.53 | michaelnovakjr__ | haha |
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| 19:08.09 | davidw | har har |
| 19:08.27 | dmoffett | lol |
| 19:08.40 | davidw | did you see that newscast pic that came up on some turkish channel? the guy started typing youtube, but the first one in the list was youporn or something like that |
| 19:08.56 | Dougie187 | haha |
| 19:08.57 | jasta | asfhrrhghgh!$(* |
| 19:09.00 | jasta | i am burning up |
| 19:09.16 | Dougie187 | roll in some ice |
| 19:09.27 | jasta | i wish, but i'm at work |
| 19:09.36 | Dougie187 | i can take out your kidneys and put you on ice |
| 19:09.46 | michaelnovakjr__ | haha |
| 19:10.22 | jasta | does muthu basically run helloandroid.com now? |
| 19:10.29 | jasta | all the posts are his |
| 19:10.36 | davidw | ahahahah |
| 19:11.46 | jasta | he also writes way too much of this inspirational drivel |
| 19:12.06 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 19:12.08 | Dougie187 | true |
| 19:12.14 | Dougie187 | but your hungover |
| 19:12.16 | Dougie187 | so its amplified |
| 19:12.32 | jasta | maybe so |
| 19:12.50 | davidw | jasta, does someone have a case of the Mondays? |
| 19:13.08 | Dougie187 | its tuesday |
| 19:13.19 | davidw | Dougie187, it's a joke |
| 19:13.24 | davidw | it's a line from Office Space |
| 19:13.32 | Dougie187 | lol i know |
| 19:13.35 | Dougie187 | but its tuesday |
| 19:13.45 | michaelnovakjr__ | hahahhahaaaha |
| 19:14.42 | Dougie187 | if you recall. the original joke was used on a monday |
| 19:15.50 | Dougie187 | damnit toshiba. ship me back my laptop |
| 19:15.54 | Dougie187 | i want to play with linux |
| 19:15.55 | Dougie187 | not windows |
| 19:16.13 | Dougie187 | <--- has no patience |
| 19:16.25 | Dougie187 | as you can clearly tell |
| 19:17.50 | morrildl | Tonight: Absinthe & Guitar Hero. |
| 19:17.58 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 19:18.09 | Dougie187 | that sounds like a messed up evening |
| 19:18.11 | morrildl | I am just saying... |
| 19:18.22 | morrildl | Dougie187: no, that was the Absinthe Milkshake from a few weeks ago |
| 19:18.22 | michaelnovakjr__ | a break |
| 19:18.29 | michaelnovakjr__ | hmmm..... that is interesting morrildl |
| 19:18.48 | morrildl | (the milkshake actually worked, except that I mixed the absinthe too strong) |
| 19:18.49 | michaelnovakjr__ | taking a break due to an upcoming announcement |
| 19:19.04 | michaelnovakjr__ | ok ok.,,, minus myself -1000 |
| 19:19.13 | davidw | well if morrildl is not going to be around when the announcement comes out, we should take this time now to hurl epithets at him! |
| 19:19.14 | morrildl | ;) |
| 19:19.27 | morrildl | better find another channel then, this one is still logged ;) |
| 19:19.31 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 19:19.38 | davidw | "OMG, Google is the sucks!!!! U R so lame not to pick me!!!!!" |
| 19:20.14 | Dougie187 | wouldnt those be better suited on a wednesday? |
| 19:21.32 | michaelnovakjr__ | but if the announcement is before this evening in cali morrildl will be around for it and then going home to relax |
| 19:21.35 | jasta | hehe, i'm wearing a guinness t-shirt at work hehe |
| 19:21.39 | michaelnovakjr__ | ok, where's muthu |
| 19:21.50 | jasta | no, please don't bring him here |
| 19:21.53 | jasta | not today, i'm too hungover :) |
| 19:21.55 | michaelnovakjr__ | haha |
| 19:22.05 | morrildl | no, there is no announcement today :) |
| 19:22.09 | michaelnovakjr__ | haha |
| 19:22.21 | morrildl | I am just going to play Guitar Hero and get my absinthe on because I feel like it :) |
| 19:22.27 | Dougie187 | what theres an announcement today? |
| 19:22.28 | michaelnovakjr__ | figured as much.... from your announcement monday that would make sense |
| 19:24.48 | Dougie187 | which guitar hero are you playing? |
| 19:25.20 | davidw | is going to read some fish entrails to divine when the announcement will be |
| 19:26.56 | Dougie187 | davidw: as always. i think you may have crossed the line. |
| 19:27.23 | jasta | i hope Google sends the winners a comically oversized check |
| 19:27.31 | michaelnovakjr__ | haha |
| 19:27.51 | michaelnovakjr__ | they should knock on everyone's door with a camera too |
| 19:28.47 | jasta | i hope so |
| 19:28.58 | jasta | i wonder if anybody is going to win from San Francisco |
| 19:29.47 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 19:30.23 | jasta | probably not, they all smell and are bad. |
| 19:30.46 | Dougie187 | i have a friend who lives in san fran |
| 19:31.08 | jerkface03 | are we making discriminatory jokes? |
| 19:31.14 | Dougie187 | jasta is |
| 19:31.22 | jerkface03 | well then, let me join in |
| 19:31.24 | Dougie187 | you may join in if you want to |
| 19:31.37 | jerkface03 | i bet the majority of enteries from sanfran are gaydar related |
| 19:31.43 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 19:31.52 | jasta | ohh, that new HTC phone looks sexy. |
| 19:31.54 | Dougie187 | you are what the spaniards call "El terrible" |
| 19:33.48 | Dougie187 | too bad it doesnt have android on it |
| 19:37.06 | jasta | yeah, but we know they are going to release one, so this is good news that the company is starting to think sexy. |
| 19:38.15 | jasta | i would actually buy this thing if not for an Android phone coming out around the same time :) |
| 19:38.23 | Dougie187 | yeah |
| 19:38.26 | Dougie187 | i want an android phone |
| 19:39.21 | michaelnovakjr__ | i have an android phone :) |
| 19:40.29 | jasta | i cant believe it has a 3.2MP camera |
| 19:40.31 | Dougie187 | emulator.... on... your computer... |
| 19:40.41 | Dougie187 | thats as good as our digital camera |
| 19:40.42 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 19:41.02 | michaelnovakjr__ | nope.... i have android phone because once i get android i'll put it on whatever i'd like ! |
| 19:41.13 | jasta | this phone is clearly the basis for their android offering. |
| 19:47.00 | jasta | i can see HTC getting sick of Microsoft's lazy attitude toward Windows Mobile |
| 19:47.10 | michaelnovakjr__ | i hope |
| 19:50.43 | Dougie187 | i wonder how much they had to develop for msft |
| 19:51.38 | jasta | i have a friend who is a project manager on the windows mobile team... |
| 19:52.18 | jasta | she asserts that Android is not even on their radar as a competitor. |
| 19:52.35 | jasta | which makes me smile. it means windows mobile will just lay down and die :) |
| 19:52.40 | michaelnovakjr__ | wow, they are really full of themselves |
| 19:53.05 | jasta | it won't be long now ;0 |
| 19:53.25 | michaelnovakjr__ | there's two teams i would like to work on] |
| 19:53.32 | michaelnovakjr__ | 1. win mobile and 2. flash |
| 19:53.48 | michaelnovakjr__ | reasons are to figure out what the hell is going on with the code |
| 19:54.03 | jasta | sabotage? :) |
| 19:54.28 | michaelnovakjr__ | win mobile power consumption is crap.... and i'd like to see the flash runtime |
| 19:55.00 | Dougie187 | I thought you were going to say you had a friend working at windows mobile, and she hates her life |
| 19:55.08 | michaelnovakjr__ | haha |
| 19:58.38 | Dougie187 | i dont even know how they can say its not on the radar |
| 19:58.54 | michaelnovakjr__ | they are microsoft..... are you really that surprised? |
| 19:59.00 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 19:59.21 | Dougie187 | you should write a radar app for android. and put a blip on it that says "Android" and say look its on the radar!! |
| 19:59.22 | michaelnovakjr__ | if you ask them, Vista is the best selling operating system ever |
| 19:59.38 | michaelnovakjr__ | and its stable!! |
| 19:59.39 | Dougie187 | and thats why Xp costs more than vista from lenovo and most companies right? |
| 19:59.45 | michaelnovakjr__ | :) |
| 20:00.02 | michaelnovakjr__ | they never admit bumps in the road |
| 20:00.05 | Dougie187 | xp pro costs more then vista home basic and premium |
| 20:00.14 | Lede | hah |
| 20:00.18 | Dougie187 | they should publicly apologize for vista |
| 20:00.23 | Lede | michaelnovakjr__: they admit and know what vista is like |
| 20:00.36 | Lede | michaelnovakjr__: they are turning it into a show |
| 20:00.51 | Dougie187 | thats why they are pumping out vista 2.0 soon right? |
| 20:00.52 | Lede | michaelnovakjr__: so when Windows 7 comes they will say "This is the best thing ever!" (like always) |
| 20:00.53 | Dougie187 | at a time tbd |
| 20:00.56 | michaelnovakjr__ | where do they acknowledge the crap they put out there? |
| 20:00.58 | Dougie187 | it will fix all the issues |
| 20:01.06 | michaelnovakjr__ | hahahaha |
| 20:01.09 | Dougie187 | heh |
| 20:01.53 | Dougie187 | it will be called. Windows Infinity |
| 20:02.20 | f00f- | Windows Ad Nauseum |
| 20:02.21 | michaelnovakjr__ | haha |
| 20:02.32 | Lede | http://gizmodo.com/342920/holy-crap-did-bill-gates-just-say-windows-sucks |
| 20:02.36 | michaelnovakjr__ | No more windows! |
| 20:02.52 | Dougie187 | i wonder if google as a company hates microsoft |
| 20:03.05 | f00f- | they probably lub em to death |
| 20:03.23 | Dougie187 | Hahaha |
| 20:03.25 | jasta | yeah, probably. |
| 20:03.25 | Dougie187 | that was funny |
| 20:03.29 | Lede | Dougie187: that would be stupid |
| 20:03.37 | Dougie187 | why? |
| 20:03.49 | Lede | why would you "hate" a company? |
| 20:03.58 | Dougie187 | ... |
| 20:04.04 | Dougie187 | because you hate them? |
| 20:04.06 | Lede | instead of focusing your energy on your products |
| 20:04.21 | Dougie187 | you cant focus all of your energy on that. |
| 20:04.27 | Dougie187 | there some for entertainment |
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| 20:04.30 | Dougie187 | and women |
| 20:04.32 | Dougie187 | and then hating |
| 20:04.46 | benley | focusing your energy on a particular competitor seems like a bad idea to me |
| 20:04.59 | Dougie187 | they arnt focusing all their energy. |
| 20:05.02 | Dougie187 | no energy actually |
| 20:05.05 | Dougie187 | i just wonder if they hate them |
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| 20:12.20 | jasta | Dougie187: i am certain they do not. |
| 20:12.26 | Dougie187 | ok |
| 20:12.30 | Dougie187 | thank you for answering my question jasta |
| 20:12.34 | jasta | think about it: microsoft's failure is google's opportunity. |
| 20:12.36 | Dougie187 | you are a saint among men |
| 20:13.03 | jasta | huh?> |
| 20:15.45 | Dougie187 | i was just saying thank you |
| 20:15.59 | Dougie187 | thats all |
| 20:16.50 | michaelnovakjr__ | in a very interesting way ;) |
| 20:17.01 | Dougie187 | im interesting. what can i say? |
| 20:17.06 | michaelnovakjr__ | haha |
| 20:21.17 | Dougie187 | arnt you interesting too? |
| 20:23.08 | convivial | can I indicate that I am learning Android on resume? |
| 20:23.30 | michaelnovakjr__ | of course you can, but no one has a clue what it is yet |
| 20:23.55 | michaelnovakjr__ | if anything supply more specific android experience |
| 20:24.07 | michaelnovakjr__ | not just 'learning android' |
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| 20:25.45 | vol_ | Hell, put down "j2se" |
| 20:25.48 | vol_ | it's close enough |
| 20:26.28 | convivial | hiring managers and recruiters are too stupid to know that... you know that! |
| 20:26.45 | Dougie187 | lol and you think they will know android? |
| 20:26.49 | michaelnovakjr__ | they certainly won't know what android is |
| 20:26.58 | vol_ | yeah |
| 20:27.02 | Dougie187 | if you just say "Skills and Qualifications: i know android" |
| 20:27.06 | vol_ | they go with keywords |
| 20:27.09 | vol_ | hell |
| 20:27.13 | vol_ | half the time they don't even read the resume |
| 20:27.18 | vol_ | they just scan it for key words |
| 20:27.32 | vol_ | when I put myself on the job market a few months ago |
| 20:27.41 | Dougie187 | also what benefit is android going to give you on a resume? |
| 20:27.42 | vol_ | I got an amazing number of recruiters who wanted me for things I was in no way suitable for |
| 20:27.50 | michaelnovakjr__ | my resume is what gets me through the door :) |
| 20:27.51 | vol_ | simply because I had "java" there |
| 20:29.05 | Dougie187 | i would think j2se would help more then just "android" |
| 20:29.08 | jasta | i do not do well in interviews ;) |
| 20:29.25 | michaelnovakjr__ | interviews are my strong point |
| 20:29.28 | Dougie187 | me too |
| 20:29.29 | jasta | i'm amazed i have as high a hit rate as i do going from interview to hire. |
| 20:29.40 | jasta | long term job performance is my strong point :) |
| 20:29.48 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 20:29.58 | michaelnovakjr__ | jasta, that too |
| 20:30.10 | Dougie187 | hopefully i wont need a resume anymore soon |
| 20:30.14 | Dougie187 | just a good ole |
| 20:30.16 | Dougie187 | CV |
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| 20:30.34 | jasta | i just find the interview process uncomfortable, and a strange setting. |
| 20:30.54 | Dougie187 | you just have to learn how to lie |
| 20:30.54 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 20:30.58 | michaelnovakjr__ | haha |
| 20:31.08 | michaelnovakjr__ | well, Dougie187 be able to do it very well too |
| 20:31.10 | jasta | and the questions that are asked seem to come out of left field to me. i guess i just dont anticipate well. |
| 20:31.10 | Dougie187 | and figure out the answer best suited for the job soon |
| 20:31.31 | Dougie187 | i am able to do it |
| 20:31.31 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 20:31.38 | Dougie187 | i can lie in an interview out my ass |
| 20:31.41 | Dougie187 | and make up answers |
| 20:31.42 | jasta | the technical meat is usually fine, but everything else, oh boy |
| 20:31.50 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 20:32.18 | jasta | but at times even the technical part is hard for me because they have just phrased the question very strangely or i have a hard time understanding what they really want me to demonstrate |
| 20:32.21 | Dougie187 | so you sit there hyperventalating and pushing your glasses up your nose trying to adjust your pocket protector so it doesnt look stupid and you cant focus on the questions? |
| 20:32.34 | michaelnovakjr__ | haha |
| 20:32.42 | jasta | Dougie187: well, obviously not literally but yes kind of. |
| 20:32.48 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 20:32.50 | jasta | i almost stop listening |
| 20:32.55 | jasta | not on purpose |
| 20:32.57 | jasta | it really sucks :) |
| 20:33.01 | Dougie187 | but because you get distracted |
| 20:33.02 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 20:34.05 | Dougie187 | just use google as your answer |
| 20:34.11 | Dougie187 | say i dont know but i would google it |
| 20:34.17 | Dougie187 | i think they like that answer |
| 20:34.17 | michaelnovakjr__ | haha |
| 20:34.49 | Dougie187 | always refer to the internet in plural too |
| 20:35.06 | Dougie187 | "i dont know for sure but the internets have to have the answer" |
| 20:35.30 | jasta | i once was asked the fizzbuzz question |
| 20:35.38 | Dougie187 | fizzbuzz? |
| 20:35.41 | jasta | and i guess i way overengineered it |
| 20:36.51 | jasta | taking special care to point out that, in this particular case, his question was invalid because it required strcpy to be used on overlapping segments |
| 20:37.04 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 20:37.16 | Dougie187 | i can see how you fail interviews |
| 20:38.07 | jasta | i mean, i get it, i don't overengineer real coding projects. but i just get all nervous that the interview question has some bizarre nuance and i search every corner of the question very thoroughly |
| 20:38.21 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 20:38.34 | Dougie187 | if i was famous i would go apply at like burger king or something |
| 20:38.36 | Dougie187 | and if i got a job there |
| 20:38.44 | Dougie187 | i would be the biggest moron who worked there |
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| 20:38.50 | Dougie187 | like i would mess up everyones food |
| 20:38.56 | Dougie187 | and make a mess in the kitchen |
| 20:39.12 | Dougie187 | make sure my belly button was showing all the time |
| 20:39.15 | jasta | if you were famous you'd be a jack ass? |
| 20:39.17 | convivial | http://home.comcast.net/~erica.ramsey/CV |
| 20:39.21 | Dougie187 | in burger king |
| 20:39.24 | Dougie187 | not everywhere |
| 20:39.33 | Dougie187 | whos that? |
| 20:39.43 | jasta | convivial: what is this? |
| 20:40.18 | Dougie187 | do any of you use gsoap? |
| 20:40.21 | Dougie187 | i see ksoap on there |
| 20:40.24 | Dougie187 | so i just thought i would ask |
| 20:42.41 | Dougie187 | Theres a typo |
| 20:42.45 | Dougie187 | at least i think its a typo |
| 20:44.19 | Dougie187 | convivial: if this is your Resume/CV there is a typo under the united airlines section on the last bullet. You say "Developed PERL application to extra" and i think you mean extract. |
| 20:45.13 | jasta | that resume is not well organized. it's hard to read. |
| 20:45.39 | jasta | also, it is not very targeted. it's very verbose. |
| 20:45.51 | Dougie187 | true dat |
| 20:45.57 | Dougie187 | make everything more brief |
| 20:46.00 | jasta | like, who cares that you (?) know the android interface description language. |
| 20:46.31 | jasta | also, i smell bullshit from a mile away on your "C" line :) |
| 20:47.41 | jasta | if you truly mean ANSI ISO C and K&R interchangably, then you're a crazy fool. Also, if you want to be so specific, why not mention whether you code against C89 or C99? |
| 20:48.14 | michaelnovakjr__ | also what is Custom Widget Development? |
| 20:48.15 | jasta | and what the hell does "UI API" mean? |
| 20:48.21 | jasta | Which UI? |
| 20:48.29 | michaelnovakjr__ | dashboard widgets, qt widgets, gtk widgets? |
| 20:48.34 | Dougie187 | i was just going to say that |
| 20:48.42 | michaelnovakjr__ | your own type of widget framework? |
| 20:48.57 | jasta | and threads aren't a mobile or embedded API. when you dissect this, you quickly realize that this is gibberish. |
| 20:49.02 | f00f- | lol |
| 20:49.06 | f00f- | jasta is rippin it |
| 20:49.13 | Dougie187 | thats what he does |
| 20:49.17 | Dougie187 | he already lost his balls. |
| 20:49.20 | Dougie187 | so nothing else left to lose |
| 20:49.23 | f00f- | loo |
| 20:49.32 | Dougie187 | cept the adc |
| 20:49.33 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 20:49.36 | jasta | i'm legitimately trying to help. |
| 20:49.37 | michaelnovakjr__ | it'll help in the end when its a cleaner resume! |
| 20:49.42 | f00f- | well it does say CV in the URL, as opposed to resume |
| 20:49.42 | Dougie187 | i know |
| 20:49.44 | Dougie187 | im just messing around |
| 20:49.56 | Dougie187 | well she said resume earlier though |
| 20:50.00 | Dougie187 | but it does say CV |
| 20:50.10 | Dougie187 | CV can be a bit more detailed, but she should still make it easier to read |
| 20:50.16 | f00f- | yeah |
| 20:50.22 | Dougie187 | it would take someone an hour to paw through this |
| 20:50.23 | jasta | even as a CV, it's organized all wrong, and the meat has just been thrown in without any consideration. |
| 20:50.27 | Dougie187 | and figure out the skills |
| 20:50.51 | convivial | mariah carey is getting too old to be trying to act like a sex symbol now |
| 20:50.53 | convivial | geez |
| 20:51.00 | f00f- | i'd like to work at an airline |
| 20:51.01 | jasta | it's overly verbose in some places, and inappropriately vague elsewhere. makes no sense :) |
| 20:51.01 | convivial | why can't there just be normal musicians |
| 20:51.19 | convivial | why does everyone have to be full of shit |
| 20:51.21 | f00f- | convivial: thereare in the non-RIAA, non-Hollywood world |
| 20:51.54 | jasta | the lions share of music is not like the small glimpse you see on television and magazines. |
| 20:52.06 | jasta | even though the RIAA still controls all the rest of it too :) |
| 20:52.25 | Dougie187 | ill bbl. |
| 20:52.29 | Dougie187 | i have to start dinner for my wife |
| 20:52.31 | convivial | use tobe ppl had talent did their job went home live their life and that was it |
| 20:52.35 | convivial | now all this bullshit |
| 20:52.55 | convivial | of course, those days were before my time but I read about them in history books |
| 20:52.58 | Dougie187 | (ps. i think its been that way for a little while) |
| 20:53.01 | f00f- | i suppose we need to sack the RIAA, ASCAP & friends |
| 20:53.32 | Dougie187 | bbl |
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| 20:53.41 | jasta | convivial: this argument is as well structured as the CV you pointed us to, btw. |
| 20:53.54 | jasta | i am growing concerned that it is, in fact, your CV :) |
| 20:55.01 | f00f- | CSI .NET Developer |
| 20:55.07 | f00f- | so you're the one who does those fancy computer GUI's on CSI: Miami |
| 20:55.43 | jasta | lol, "Brainbench C++ Programmer" |
| 20:55.46 | jasta | are you serious!? |
| 20:55.51 | jasta | falls out of his chair laughing |
| 20:56.32 | michaelnovakjr__ | yea what is CSI .NET? |
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| 21:01.58 | davidw | looks like my wife wins over the ADC:-) |
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| 21:51.54 | Dougie187 | and i have returned |
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| 22:47.14 | jerkface03 | morrildl_: so whats the master plan? tommorow's the day? |
| 22:50.35 | Dougie187 | you scared him away |
| 22:59.40 | jasta | jerkface03: i wouldn't count on it. |
| 23:02.16 | jerkface03 | bastard. |
| 23:02.36 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 23:03.11 | jasta | there are a lot of folks claiming that their server is once again being hit |
| 23:03.17 | jasta | mine is not :( |
| 23:03.30 | jasta | i haven't gotten a hit since they narrowed down the top 100 |
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| 23:04.19 | Dougie187 | jasta |
| 23:04.23 | Dougie187 | chill |
| 23:04.27 | Dougie187 | go write another app |
| 23:04.33 | Dougie187 | or go make starcraft work under wine |
| 23:05.22 | duey | hi |
| 23:05.25 | jerkface03 | starcraft |
| 23:05.32 | jerkface03 | are you korean? |
| 23:05.42 | duey | <3 starcraft |
| 23:05.50 | duey | pitty its only 600x400 res |
| 23:05.52 | jerkface03 | death2fingerclickingcontests |
| 23:06.17 | jasta | Dougie187: starcraft already works under wine |
| 23:06.48 | jasta | Dougie187: meh, the whole thing has me a bit disenchanted. i don't care if i don't win. |
| 23:07.13 | duey | jasta, if you dont win just port it to iphone |
| 23:07.33 | duey | :p |
| 23:07.35 | jerkface03 | jasta: i'm sure if you don't win they'll put you on suicide watch |
| 23:07.43 | Dougie187 | Jasta |
| 23:07.49 | Dougie187 | fix the bnet bug with starcraft in wine |
| 23:07.52 | jasta | really, i'm fine with it. |
| 23:08.02 | Dougie187 | ill show you |
| 23:08.03 | Dougie187 | one sec |
| 23:08.16 | jasta | Dougie187: try Cedega. |
| 23:08.22 | Dougie187 | it doesnt work. |
| 23:08.27 | Dougie187 | plus it isnt free |
| 23:08.35 | jasta | dude, i used to play StarCraft all the time under wine |
| 23:08.35 | Dougie187 | http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2467 |
| 23:08.40 | Dougie187 | yeah starcraft works |
| 23:08.42 | Dougie187 | but not bnet |
| 23:09.03 | Dougie187 | (bnet only for sc, it works for d2 just fine and i think wc3) |
| 23:09.15 | jerkface03 | maybe it doesn't show in the menus correctly because YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG |
| 23:09.20 | jasta | well i don't care, nobody plays that game anymore |
| 23:09.24 | Dougie187 | thanks jerk |
| 23:09.25 | jerkface03 | except koreans |
| 23:09.33 | jasta | also, SC2 is going to be out soon |
| 23:12.40 | Dougie187 | koreans are not the only ones who play SC |
| 23:12.45 | Dougie187 | and you are right about sc2 coming out soon. |
| 23:12.55 | Dougie187 | hopefully it will fully support linux |
| 23:13.02 | jerkface03 | it won't |
| 23:13.09 | Dougie187 | i said hopefully ass |
| 23:13.15 | jerkface03 | don't be hatin' |
| 23:13.31 | Dougie187 | Too late |
| 23:13.32 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 23:14.03 | jerkface03 | i need to find an 'industry sponser' to do this 18credit practicuum |
| 23:14.25 | jerkface03 | trying to figure out who i should try contacting |
| 23:14.48 | jerkface03 | Dougie187: do you want to sponser me? |
| 23:15.16 | jasta | Dougie187: he's right though, it will definitely not support Linux |
| 23:15.42 | jasta | it will be popular, and so the transgaming folks will surely get it working with wine, but as always it'll be slow and buggy :) |
| 23:16.32 | Dougie187 | why wouldnt they make it work with linux though |
| 23:16.48 | Dougie187 | it will be supported under mac, and i wouldnt think it would be too difficult to port it if you had the source code |
| 23:16.55 | Dougie187 | and jerkface03 no |
| 23:18.03 | jasta | why would they? it's a significant development effort and Blizzard is not interested. |
| 23:18.20 | Dougie187 | is it really that significant if they already have it running on a mac? |
| 23:18.43 | jasta | Presumably, yes. They probably have no one on staff that is even familiar with Linux development. |
| 23:19.02 | jasta | they've never ported any of their games, and unless otherwise stated, they will not port this one. |
| 23:19.10 | jasta | don't be so foolish |
| 23:19.15 | Dougie187 | i know they havent ported any of their games |
| 23:19.23 | Dougie187 | but linux is getting to be more and more popular |
| 23:19.32 | Dougie187 | especially with ubuntu being sold on mainstream computers |
| 23:19.40 | Dougie187 | so they have an added market they could appeal to |
| 23:19.44 | Dougie187 | granted its a small one |
| 23:19.59 | jasta | they currently have not announced a port, and actually, based on Blizzard's history, I would find it extremely unlikely that they have a change of heart. |
| 23:20.03 | Dougie187 | but given how long sc1 lasted they might invest that time to make this game suitable for all of the distros |
| 23:20.23 | jasta | Blizzard is actually a very narrowly managed company. Not progressive at all. |
| 23:20.48 | Dougie187 | i know some people a while ago made a petition for it |
| 23:20.51 | jasta | Dougie187: if you think there is a decent chance they will port it to Linux then you are a fool ;) |
| 23:20.54 | Dougie187 | but i dont know what happened with it |
| 23:21.02 | jasta | they ignored it, obviously. |
| 23:21.05 | Dougie187 | i didnt even say that i thought there was a chance |
| 23:21.08 | Dougie187 | i said hopefully |
| 23:21.14 | Dougie187 | I hope they port it |
| 23:21.21 | jasta | why would you hope for something that you thought was not possible? |
| 23:21.32 | Dougie187 | i think it is possible. but i hope they do it |
| 23:21.38 | Dougie187 | actually |
| 23:21.40 | Dougie187 | i know its possible. |
| 23:21.47 | Dougie187 | its just a matter of if they do it or not |
| 23:21.51 | jasta | well, yeah, that was a poor word choiec |
| 23:21.54 | Dougie187 | you know its possibl too |
| 23:21.56 | Dougie187 | possible |
| 23:22.10 | Dougie187 | you mean probable |
| 23:22.36 | jasta | But it would be an incredible surprise to hear them say they will make a port. |
| 23:22.42 | jasta | Again, especially considering Blizzard's history. |
| 23:22.44 | Dougie187 | Lol you hope to win the ADC but you dont think its probable that you won. |
| 23:22.58 | jasta | Actually up until recently I did think it was probable I would win :) |
| 23:22.59 | Dougie187 | well im not really basing my hope on blizzards history. |
| 23:23.03 | Dougie187 | heh |
| 23:23.07 | Dougie187 | btw i dont know if you heard. |
| 23:23.10 | jasta | When I came up with my idea nad started working on it, I definitely did think it was probable. |
| 23:23.18 | Dougie187 | but earlier dan said that your app would go on his android device |
| 23:23.20 | Dougie187 | even if you lose |
| 23:23.36 | jasta | really? that's very flattering |
| 23:23.45 | Dougie187 | he said that about muthu's cooking app too though |
| 23:23.52 | Dougie187 | but those where the two |
| 23:24.02 | Dougie187 | he was saying it to muthu because he was saying he thought he lose |
| 23:24.05 | Dougie187 | lost* |
| 23:24.19 | jasta | dan thought muthu lost, you mean? |
| 23:24.32 | Dougie187 | no muthu thought muthu lost |
| 23:24.37 | jasta | oh, that makes more sense. |
| 23:24.39 | Dougie187 | and dan was comforting him |
| 23:24.48 | Dougie187 | they had a nice cuddle |
| 23:25.02 | jasta | actually, i have had a lot of positive reaction from folks i have told about my app |
| 23:25.22 | jasta | i won't be too sad to lose, though, i just hope that i don't lose out to a bunch of stupid apps |
| 23:25.42 | Dougie187 | yeah |
| 23:25.46 | Dougie187 | like facebook and myspace |
| 23:26.58 | lummie | Do you think core (non gps / site integration /mashup apps) will have a chance ? |
| 23:27.17 | lummie | I mean there's no mail client, file browser, etc. |
| 23:27.29 | jasta | lummie: there's no released mail client, file browser, etc. |
| 23:27.42 | jasta | you'd be insane to assume google is not going to integrate with the majority of their online services. |
| 23:27.45 | lummie | all the basics....of a phone aren't there, do you think the will be in the top 50 |
| 23:27.51 | jasta | Gmail, google calendar, picasaweb, etc. |
| 23:28.04 | jasta | i think that some basic apps will make it, yeah |
| 23:28.19 | jasta | i consider mine to be one of the basic apps, actually |
| 23:28.48 | lummie | was that the media browser thingy :p |
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| 23:34.50 | Dougie187 | I think the reason google did the ADC was to get basic apps done for them |
| 23:38.01 | jasta | i dont think thats true either |
| 23:38.06 | duey | lets see if it turns out to be a fasion contest |
| 23:38.20 | jasta | well, my app is pretty sexy ;) |
| 23:38.26 | duey | yer :LD |
| 23:38.32 | jasta | i definitely spent time making it look nice |
| 23:39.21 | romainguy_ | you ripped off the iPod touch's design :p |
| 23:40.28 | duey | no problem with that! |
| 23:42.37 | jasta | yeah, i did, but that took time ;) |
| 23:42.50 | jasta | i do intend to change my UI some moving forward, though |
| 23:42.55 | jasta | i don't want it to be quite so blatant ;) |
| 23:43.17 | jasta | i'm just not that creative, so it's hard. cut me some slack |
| 23:43.30 | romainguy_ | no way :) |
| 23:43.43 | jasta | well do you have any ideas? |
| 23:43.47 | jasta | i'd love to hear them |
| 23:44.25 | romainguy_ | I would certainly help if I wasn't so busy doing my job already :) |
| 23:44.43 | jasta | you don't even have a thought to throw out? :) |
| 23:45.07 | duey | jasta, copy the iphone instead! |
| 23:45.12 | jasta | brilliant |
| 23:45.15 | duey | ;) |
| 23:45.35 | jasta | i do have some thoughts to make the alphabet bar way better, too ;) |
| 23:45.39 | jasta | i just didnt have time |
| 23:46.20 | jasta | i might even just make a nice search interface and get away from the alphabet bar thing completely |
| 23:46.30 | jasta | though i wanted to wait and see if we get blessed with a soft keyboard |
| 23:47.04 | duey | well if it helps, i generally use random, but if im looking for something i enter the keys in itunes (not search) |
| 23:47.15 | duey | so if im looking for radiohead i type ra |
| 23:47.15 | jasta | enter the keys? |
| 23:47.22 | jasta | thats what i meant by search |
| 23:47.25 | jasta | like a quick-filter |
| 23:47.26 | duey | ah ok |
| 23:47.30 | duey | quick jump |
| 23:47.38 | duey | is what i would call it |
| 23:47.42 | romainguy_ | we have a filtering API on ListView |
| 23:47.42 | jasta | sure |
| 23:47.53 | jasta | romainguy_: yeah, and i'd like to support it eventually :) |
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| 23:48.48 | jasta | anyway, i'm still not feeling right today, so i'm going home to sleep hehe |
| 23:51.09 | Dougie187 | see ya |
| 23:51.29 | duey | 80.5% accuracy on my image classification algo!!!! |
| 23:51.31 | duey | :D |
| 23:55.40 | jjt001 | jasta: any server hits? |
| 23:55.54 | jjt001 | some dudes have been reporting them on android-challenge group |
| 23:56.06 | jjt001 | anyone here got any hits within the last two day? |
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