| 00:00.09 | umdk1d4 | not sure what mac offers for IPC/RPC |
| 00:00.11 | michaelnovakjr__ | karmakomik: i fear the software offerings will resemble win mobile |
| 00:00.24 | michaelnovakjr__ | few good apps, lots of crappy apps |
| 00:00.28 | karmakomik | gambler: have you tried Eliza, linux mce, entertainer .... |
| 00:00.30 | gambler | umdk1d4, there are alot of things windows uses for RPC, DCE, MAPI, COM I think |
| 00:00.40 | gambler | umdk1d4, im just using the windows MCE remote |
| 00:00.48 | umdk1d4 | hmm i wonder what various apps expose through their RPC interfaces |
| 00:00.59 | umdk1d4 | COM might be hard to workwith |
| 00:01.06 | umdk1d4 | COM is usually activex, and not existing processes |
| 00:01.10 | gambler | karmakomik, i tried eliza, mms, mythtv, mce ... not entertainer |
| 00:01.41 | gambler | karmakomik, whats entertainer? |
| 00:01.59 | umdk1d4 | hugs mythtv |
| 00:02.48 | gambler | I didnt see anything that could hold a candel to xmbc for an open source solution |
| 00:02.49 | umdk1d4 | gambler: how easy is XBMC developemnt? (like running a background process) |
| 00:03.06 | umdk1d4 | to listen on a IP socket for commands |
| 00:03.07 | gambler | umdk1d4, I dont know but it has a plugin architecture |
| 00:03.10 | karmakomik | gambler:it's a media center for linux ... |
| 00:03.17 | gambler | karmakomik, linky? |
| 00:03.28 | gambler | umdk1d4, I assume it would be pretty straightforward |
| 00:04.35 | karmakomik | gambler:http://www.entertainer-project.com/ |
| 00:04.56 | umdk1d4 | ill prolly start by writing the dbus version first--gotta figure out how to tunnel dbus calls to dcop for amarok 1.5 series |
| 00:05.02 | umdk1d4 | 2.0 is supposta suport dbus i hear |
| 00:05.20 | michaelnovakjr__ | ok, back to compiler programming... later :) |
| 00:05.21 | umdk1d4 | dbus is where things are moving for kde4 iirc |
| 00:05.22 | gambler | umdk1d4, the first thing you realize after you start using anyRemote is ....although the interface is awesome, a phone sucks as a remote control |
| 00:05.29 | gambler | at least the way we treat remote controls in our house |
| 00:05.49 | umdk1d4 | gambler: could android change that? |
| 00:06.10 | umdk1d4 | or just in general they dont work well (form factor,etc) |
| 00:07.29 | umdk1d4 | gambler: ooh http://www.tuaw.com/2007/07/30/use-your-iphone-as-an-xbmc-remote/ |
| 00:07.36 | umdk1d4 | looks like just a web-face tho |
| 00:07.43 | gambler | umdk1d4, I keep my phone in my home office usually ...for my remote its always sitting near my TV |
| 00:08.46 | gambler | did you try anyRemote? It actually works great. |
| 00:08.59 | umdk1d4 | yep i looked at it quite a bit |
| 00:09.05 | umdk1d4 | looks nice :) |
| 00:09.15 | umdk1d4 | idk maybe i just wanna torture myself learning about dbus |
| 00:09.23 | gambler | it's just contextually bad. like I have to get up and walk to the other side of my house to get my remote |
| 00:11.46 | gambler | karmakomik, yeah looks like it wasnt around when I tested it...0.1 version number there |
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| 01:28.22 | michaelnovakjr__ | got quiet |
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| 01:31.41 | yakischloba | has been quiet most of the day |
| 01:31.43 | yakischloba | week |
| 01:31.44 | yakischloba | month |
| 01:33.17 | michaelnovakjr__ | true |
| 01:33.46 | michaelnovakjr__ | i haven't been around much this week |
| 01:33.52 | michaelnovakjr__ | losing faith in android |
| 01:34.17 | yakischloba | i've just had other things take priority over my app for the most part. |
| 01:35.38 | michaelnovakjr__ | yea, i'm working on some other stuff |
| 01:35.45 | michaelnovakjr__ | nothing for android currently |
| 02:18.34 | gambler | this channel is actually pretty decent compared to some that I'm in. I have a few with 10+ pages of only leave/join messages |
| 02:23.15 | jasta | michaelnovakjr__: i'm finishing up my solitaire game :) |
| 02:23.21 | jasta | it's pretty sophisticated now :) |
| 02:23.29 | jasta | i'm going to add animations next |
| 02:25.56 | michaelnovakjr__ | sweet! |
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| 05:08.53 | muthu | is it sep 17? |
| 05:28.19 | yakischloba | no? |
| 05:29.14 | muthu | when? |
| 05:29.34 | yakischloba | oh. Stupid wifi cut out, I missed what you were talking about ;) |
| 05:30.01 | muthu | the gphone launch - is it sep 17? |
| 05:30.02 | yakischloba | it looked like you were questioning todays date |
| 05:30.11 | yakischloba | No idea. sorry |
| 05:30.20 | muthu | haha |
| 05:31.49 | muthu | public sdk - next week? |
| 05:32.01 | yakischloba | wouldnt that be nice |
| 05:32.21 | muthu | yeah |
| 05:33.08 | jasta | yeah, this all dropped pretty fast. i don't know what to make of it. |
| 05:33.26 | muthu | yup, too many stuff happening now |
| 05:33.50 | jasta | it still just sounds like unsubstantiated rumors like before, but it does seem like a big, heavy machine is gearing up. |
| 05:34.07 | muthu | looks like goog and oha have figured out a schedule |
| 05:34.55 | jasta | exciting times, none-the-less. |
| 05:35.23 | muthu | agree |
| 05:35.39 | muthu | jasta: are you gearing up 5? |
| 05:35.49 | muthu | a general social network question.. |
| 05:36.00 | muthu | does orkut, facebook et al.. let 3rd party tools to search their network? |
| 05:36.08 | jasta | muthu: i'm thinking about it, for sure. |
| 05:36.12 | jasta | i want to finish my game though |
| 05:36.19 | jasta | i'm adding animations and junk to it now. |
| 05:36.23 | muthu | right, now the launch is so close.. |
| 05:36.29 | muthu | the apps better be ready ;) |
| 05:36.52 | jasta | well, it'll still be tricky to launch with Google not telling us much |
| 05:36.55 | jasta | but yeah. |
| 05:38.00 | muthu | what's the best way to build content for social network sites? |
| 05:38.16 | muthu | is there an opensocial network somewhere? |
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| 05:42.14 | muthu | orkut might be more open.. |
| 05:42.29 | muthu | need to access the user information though |
| 05:43.43 | muthu | morrildl: lot of exciting news lately.. |
| 05:44.40 | muthu | looks like the public sdk is coming soon |
| 05:49.11 | muthu | and gphone in sep.. cool! |
| 05:51.40 | jasta | i'm gonna be in ireland september :) |
| 05:53.35 | morrildl | muthu: there is no gphone |
| 05:54.10 | muthu | i know, its the android phone |
| 05:54.41 | morrildl | it's /an/ Android phone ;) |
| 05:54.42 | muthu | haha.. so sep is right ;) |
| 05:54.52 | morrildl | I can't comment on dates :) |
| 05:55.06 | muthu | looks like you folks are back in action :)) |
| 05:55.16 | morrildl | oh, we've been in action |
| 05:55.28 | muthu | the "visibile" action.. that is |
| 05:55.36 | muthu | arghh... visible |
| 05:55.41 | morrildl | Fair enough. :) |
| 05:56.16 | muthu | now i need to really work overtime to get my apps ready |
| 05:58.06 | muthu | user generated content is sooo tricky |
| 06:00.03 | muthu | how can you get content when you launch? |
| 06:01.34 | muthu | how did myspace, facebook, orkut etc., appeal to the early users? |
| 06:01.34 | morrildl | muthu: difficult questions |
| 06:01.34 | muthu | right |
| 06:01.34 | muthu | i'm stuck in that.. |
| 06:01.34 | muthu | thinking of pluggin to orkut |
| 06:01.34 | muthu | but not sure how open that is |
| 06:01.34 | morrildl | muthu: yeah... FriendConnect I think might be useful |
| 06:01.49 | muthu | cool.. checking it now |
| 06:02.06 | muthu | i'm basically looking for some content for mobeegal |
| 06:02.39 | morrildl | http://www.google.com/friendconnect/home/moreinfo |
| 06:02.55 | muthu | thx |
| 06:02.59 | muthu | when's adc2? |
| 06:03.03 | morrildl | the problem with friendconnect is that I am not sure if there's any implementation other than a JavaScript version. |
| 06:03.10 | muthu | oh oh |
| 06:03.13 | morrildl | I know they are working on the REST APIs for this sort of thing |
| 06:03.17 | morrildl | but I don't know the status |
| 06:03.33 | muthu | yeah, REST is required to do any meaningful queries |
| 06:03.34 | morrildl | drop me an email if you like and I'll see if I can make a connection to someone on that team for you |
| 06:03.42 | muthu | sure |
| 06:03.55 | muthu | mobeegal really needs some content to work with |
| 06:04.04 | muthu | i'll post a email to you this weekend |
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| 06:07.05 | muthu | if friendconnect lets me use the content, then that would be a great start |
| 06:09.15 | muthu | even just google talk profiles will do |
| 06:10.29 | muthu | wow.. gtalk might be a nice option |
| 06:10.56 | muthu | since i read somewhere gtalk is expanding as a social network on its own |
| 06:17.18 | muthu | signs up for FriendConnect |
| 06:20.11 | morrildl | muthu: where did you see that? |
| 06:20.11 | morrildl | (about gtalk) |
| 06:20.11 | muthu | it was in one of the google blog, if i remember right |
| 06:20.11 | muthu | may be the official gtalk blog |
| 06:25.16 | morrildl | muthu: you mean this? http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2008/06/google-talk-is-social-network.html |
| 06:26.21 | muthu | yes |
| 06:28.00 | muthu | morrildl: sent a mail reg friendconnect.. check it out |
| 06:31.13 | morrildl | muthu: got it, and replied |
| 06:31.21 | muthu | ok, thx |
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| 06:40.53 | morrildl | whassup swetland |
| 06:41.33 | swetland | 'evening |
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| 06:44.51 | morrildl | hi davidw |
| 06:46.11 | davidw | 'morning |
| 06:59.40 | morrildl | bedtime y'all |
| 06:59.42 | morrildl | see ya |
| 07:00.45 | romainguy | yo |
| 07:03.10 | muthu | yoyo |
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| 07:45.50 | jasta | romainguy: kind of a long shot but i dont suppose you have any recommendations for a good "blocky" font? where the ratio of width to height on the letters is mostly square, and where at least all uppercase letters are the same height? |
| 07:46.27 | jasta | i want to use it to draw the card rank in my solitaire game... |
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| 08:06.37 | anno^da_ | good morning guys |
| 08:06.51 | android^da | lol |
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| 11:42.39 | anno^da_ | has someone worked with the MediaRecorder combined with a Camera Preview ? |
| 11:42.46 | anno^da_ | in M5 |
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| 13:27.43 | anno^da_ | ohhh I hate the layout. :) Are there some bugs with setting views visible and gone ? |
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| 14:38.53 | anno^da_ | I got a problem with a surface view in my layout. I use the surface view for a Camera Preview. I'm adding the preview in code with "linear.addView(preview,0, new LinearLayout.LayoutParams(LinearLayout.LayoutParams.WRAP_CONTENT, LinearLayout.LayoutParams.WRAP_CONTENT)); |
| 14:39.04 | anno^da_ | ". The layout file looks like this: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/gE0SUPwidwKYbvhCxeID/ . Why do I have nearly 20px free Space between the button and the preview? http://img.skitch.com/20080816-gk9ciu3tddh6k3p5g5gfrq8dwy.jpg |
| 14:44.32 | muthu | anno^da_: set the surface view dimens from the layout dimens |
| 14:48.46 | anno^da_ | mmh well at the moment the surface view (preview camera) dimensions are hardcodet to 320*240 could that cause the problem ? |
| 14:51.00 | anno^da_ | Now I did "surfaceHolder.setSizeFromLayout();" in the surface view and get the followig result: http://img.skitch.com/20080816-b76fxewwrrdutwnif729526n1a.jpg |
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| 14:54.50 | anno^da_ | So I don't really know why the whole thing consumes so much space. |
| 14:57.15 | muthu | get the width and height from the source and set it on surface view |
| 15:04.09 | plusminus_ | Oh my godness I'm so damn fucked up.... |
| 15:05.10 | plusminus_ | I maybe should have had a look at the GoogleMaps-TOS before developing AndNav ( http://www.andnav.org/ ) |
| 15:06.05 | anno^da_ | Well the source is the camera and I'm setting the output resolution for the cam by myself. (I'm just following the example from the API demos). |
| 15:06.11 | anno^da_ | @ muthu |
| 15:09.30 | muthu | plusminus_: what's the problem? |
| 15:10.06 | muthu | anno^da_: when we set mediaplayer for example, we get the dimens from mp and set it on sv |
| 15:10.09 | plusminus_ | it restricts an application of giving turn-by-turn directions o_O |
| 15:10.16 | muthu | oh |
| 15:10.18 | plusminus_ | what is 100% of what I am doing |
| 15:10.23 | plusminus_ | *DANCE* |
| 15:10.40 | muthu | may be you can talk with goog |
| 15:10.57 | plusminus_ | sent a mail to a Android Advocate,describing my problem |
| 15:11.50 | muthu | goog might work something out |
| 15:11.50 | plusminus_ | I've stopped breathing from that second... |
| 15:12.10 | plusminus_ | if not, I'll be searching for a high bridge o_O |
| 15:12.21 | muthu | yeah.. content is very hard to get |
| 15:21.47 | anno^da_ | haha next world record in the 100m finals |
| 15:21.59 | anno^da_ | doping all around *laughing* |
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| 15:37.50 | anno^da_ | muthu |
| 15:37.54 | anno^da_ | I got it working now |
| 15:38.08 | muthu | great.. what you did? |
| 15:38.38 | muthu | gay did not qualify right? |
| 15:38.58 | anno^da_ | I had an animation on the whole layout. And the animation wasnt ready at the point I'm adding the Preview in code. |
| 15:39.28 | muthu | who's winning 100m? |
| 15:39.55 | anno^da_ | So the only solution for that is to include the preview directly into the xml file. (which didnt work last time :( ) |
| 15:39.58 | anno^da_ | Bolt won the 100m |
| 15:40.04 | anno^da_ | in 9.69 |
| 15:40.13 | muthu | wow! |
| 15:40.52 | plusminus_ | Bolt slowed down after 80m because he was about 4 meters leading o_O |
| 15:40.57 | anno^da_ | yeah |
| 15:41.21 | anno^da_ | But to be honest I dont believe these world records |
| 15:41.37 | plusminus_ | hm, he's taller than the others |
| 15:41.41 | plusminus_ | longer legs |
| 15:41.45 | plusminus_ | more meters/step |
| 15:42.02 | muthu | why did he slow down? should've gone full speed |
| 15:42.08 | anno^da_ | Well ok but the other guys in the past had been tall as well :) |
| 15:42.19 | anno^da_ | maybe to get another world record later on ;) |
| 15:42.24 | muthu | the US dominance is gone! |
| 15:42.51 | anno^da_ | haha yeah the us do(ping)minance ;) |
| 15:42.58 | muthu | hehe |
| 15:43.38 | anno^da_ | I really want to believe these world records but the last years made me very sceptical. |
| 15:43.50 | plusminus_ | doesn't have Germany more gold-medals than the U.S. ? |
| 15:44.01 | plusminus_ | (only if we exclude Phels from the US :D) |
| 15:49.22 | muthu | phelps is superhuman |
| 15:49.40 | muthu | 7th is not a world record, right? |
| 15:53.07 | plusminus_ | don't think so |
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| 17:43.29 | dmoffett | I don't think the doping is only the US. |
| 17:43.38 | dmoffett | Look at the Tour de France. |
| 17:44.45 | dmoffett | US teams were invited to the Tour because of the teams stance on doping. |
| 17:46.29 | anno^da_ | dmoffett: Well I know that. I dont say it is just the US that use doping. In every country they use doping. |
| 17:49.13 | anno^da_ | Could someone tell me why the VideoView is sitting behin all objects all the time. I'm using a FrameLayout and use an overlay on top of which I'm rendering different things. Buttons, TextViews work perfectly on top of the overlay. Just the VideoView lies behind the objects that are under the overlay. :/ |
| 17:51.02 | dmoffett | plusminus is your best bet. I always go to his site for help. |
| 17:52.56 | yakischloba | whos doping |
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| 21:09.54 | anno^da_ | is it possible to change the src of an ImageView by code ? |
| 21:10.27 | anno^da_ | I havent found a method to do it. Otherwise I have to setup 4 imagviews and hide/unhide them |
| 21:29.48 | haavi | what does setImageURI and setImageResource do? |
| 21:32.04 | haavi | oohnvm |
| 21:37.51 | jasta | anof course, setImage* |
| 21:37.56 | jasta | err, he left. |
| 21:38.06 | jasta | and haavi already answered, nevermind :) |
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| 23:09.12 | ttuttle | romainguy, romainguy__: ping |
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| 23:49.31 | gambler | big news up on slashdot |
| 23:49.46 | gambler | debian/arm now up on openmoko |
