| 00:06.52 | hemp77 | ok, i've managed it. (did it via my content provider) |
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| 12:37.24 | Dougie187 | looks like RIM passed up WinMO in sales this last year. |
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| 13:35.21 | bravvve | hi,i cant run applications with eclipse |
| 13:38.04 | tethridge | is T-mobile selling their android phone yet? |
| 13:39.40 | Dougie187 | did you go to tmobile.com? |
| 13:39.51 | tethridge | yeah, didn't see it |
| 13:39.56 | Dougie187 | then probably not. |
| 13:39.57 | tethridge | is it there? |
| 13:40.12 | Dougie187 | i doubt it. |
| 13:40.22 | Dougie187 | especially if you went to the site, and didn't see it. |
| 13:40.37 | tethridge | I thought it was supposed to be on for sale starting the 13th |
| 13:40.47 | tethridge | guess that info was wrong |
| 13:41.08 | Dougie187 | i heard october, but ionno |
| 13:41.24 | Dougie187 | October 13th, afaik |
| 13:41.30 | Dougie187 | we will see though. |
| 13:41.39 | bravvve | eclipse do not compile HelloAndroid |
| 13:42.06 | Dougie187 | what do you mean? |
| 13:43.02 | Dougie187 | bravvve: eclipse does compile hello android. What issue are you running into? |
| 13:43.26 | bravvve | debian etch,java sun 6 |
| 13:43.33 | Dougie187 | ok |
| 13:43.40 | Dougie187 | so whats happening? |
| 13:43.44 | bravvve | and newer android |
| 13:43.53 | Dougie187 | ... |
| 13:44.02 | bravvve | 9.0beta |
| 13:44.10 | Dougie187 | 0.9 beta you mean. |
| 13:44.19 | bravvve | pluing installed as well.. |
| 13:44.27 | Dougie187 | what version of eclipse? |
| 13:44.30 | Dougie187 | 3.3? |
| 13:44.31 | Dougie187 | 3.4? |
| 13:44.37 | bravvve | it seams that apk is not crated |
| 13:44.40 | bravvve | 3.4 |
| 13:44.57 | Dougie187 | you specified the sdk path in eclipse |
| 13:44.59 | Dougie187 | ? |
| 13:45.42 | bravvve | windows>preference>android>browse |
| 13:45.45 | bravvve | yes |
| 13:45.58 | bravvve | http://www.anddev.org/could_not_fined_apk_file-t2834.html |
| 13:46.16 | Dougie187 | i know. |
| 13:46.21 | Dougie187 | people run into that sometimes. |
| 13:46.24 | Dougie187 | but it does work. |
| 13:46.30 | Dougie187 | i have it running fine right now actually. |
| 13:46.41 | bravvve | under debian? |
| 13:46.46 | Dougie187 | ubuntu. |
| 13:46.49 | Dougie187 | but thats debian basically. |
| 13:46.59 | bravvve | the bin file is impty |
| 13:47.04 | Dougie187 | and i know people who have run it under debian too |
| 13:47.08 | Dougie187 | so its not the code. |
| 13:47.25 | Dougie187 | what bin file? |
| 13:47.54 | bravvve | is there relation with ant? |
| 13:49.26 | yakischloba | hey there Dougie187 |
| 13:49.30 | Dougie187 | hey yakischloba |
| 13:49.34 | yakischloba | hows it goin bud |
| 13:49.38 | Dougie187 | pretty good. |
| 13:49.52 | Dougie187 | trying to teach this guy how to use eclipse and the sdk to run hello android. |
| 13:49.54 | Dougie187 | how bout you? |
| 13:50.19 | yakischloba | hmm aight. I have to wake up super early for my job now...having a hard time getting used to it. bleary eyed. |
| 13:50.30 | yakischloba | romain already tried to help this chap yesterday |
| 13:50.34 | Dougie187 | heh that sucks. |
| 13:50.36 | Dougie187 | yeah i know. |
| 13:50.42 | Dougie187 | i don't know what romain did though. |
| 13:51.04 | yakischloba | not much. you can only help someone so much who doesn't seem to understand what they're doing |
| 13:51.09 | Dougie187 | yeah |
| 13:51.16 | Dougie187 | i was going to say, it doesn't seem like he likes to listen. |
| 13:51.22 | yakischloba | ehh its OK, i get off at 3pm so thats nice |
| 13:51.27 | Dougie187 | that is nice. |
| 13:51.30 | Dougie187 | beat rush hour too |
| 13:51.34 | yakischloba | have you started an app yet? |
| 13:51.38 | Dougie187 | lol nope. |
| 13:51.40 | yakischloba | hehe |
| 13:51.43 | Dougie187 | just played around with some of the examples. |
| 13:51.49 | Dougie187 | at some point i will. |
| 13:51.54 | Dougie187 | but my research is a tad more importatnt. |
| 13:51.56 | yakischloba | I just restarted mine this weekend after not touching it for a couple months |
| 13:51.57 | Dougie187 | important* |
| 13:52.05 | bravvve | Dougie187:maby ur friend know? |
| 13:52.14 | yakischloba | bravvve: no |
| 13:52.18 | Dougie187 | bravvve: my bet, is you don't have something configured right. |
| 13:52.27 | Dougie187 | something between the sdk and eclipse. |
| 13:52.49 | bravvve | Dougie187:like what? |
| 13:52.55 | Dougie187 | go through the tutorials for install the plugin and doing the code about 5 more times. |
| 13:53.04 | Dougie187 | if it doesn't work, come back and someone will help you |
| 13:53.10 | Dougie187 | installing* |
| 13:53.43 | bravvve | Dougie187:i v done it 50 times:) |
| 13:53.48 | Dougie187 | are you enjoying your new job yakischloba |
| 13:54.10 | yakischloba | yeah its OK |
| 13:54.34 | Dougie187 | what do you get to do? |
| 13:54.56 | yakischloba | hopefully I'll move up soon. I'm having to do a lot of zZz bs work. I'm currently the 'lowest' guy at my location, but one new guy is starting this week and another next week, so that should free up most of my time to work on more interesting things |
| 13:55.26 | Dougie187 | that is always a good thing. |
| 13:55.43 | yakischloba | right now im just being a ticket jockey, which is annoying |
| 13:55.59 | Dougie187 | a ticket jockey eh? |
| 13:56.10 | yakischloba | I was working on some coding projects and other cool stuff until these other 2 guys left, then I had to pick up what they were doing until these new guys start |
| 13:56.18 | yakischloba | yeah. Support for the NOC basically |
| 13:57.04 | Dougie187 | cool |
| 13:57.06 | Dougie187 | sounds like fun |
| 13:57.19 | yakischloba | heh. its fine when there aren't any big problems going on |
| 13:57.32 | bravvve | :-D |
| 13:57.33 | Dougie187 | yeah |
| 13:57.36 | Dougie187 | as with everything |
| 13:57.47 | yakischloba | a lot of it is actually pretty interesting work. it just sucks when some big server goes down and I have to answer like 50 tickets about the same problem |
| 13:58.04 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 13:58.16 | Dougie187 | that is something that sucks at most admin jobs though |
| 13:58.22 | yakischloba | yup |
| 13:58.33 | yakischloba | w/e, hopefully I can work my way away from it soon enough |
| 13:59.12 | Dougie187 | yeah |
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| 14:00.13 | yakischloba | (I sure am complaining a lot for my 4th week on the job ;) ) |
| 14:00.27 | bravvve | Dougie187:are u using eclipse? |
| 14:00.43 | Dougie187 | bravvve: yes |
| 14:00.59 | bravvve | Dougie187: whitch one? |
| 14:01.07 | Dougie187 | eh yakischloba, i think people find things to hate about their jobs in 3 days. |
| 14:01.10 | Dougie187 | bravvve: 3.4 |
| 14:01.31 | bravvve | and adk? |
| 14:01.34 | yakischloba | Dougie187: yup |
| 14:01.35 | Dougie187 | yes |
| 14:03.45 | bravvve | Dougie187: sdk |
| 14:03.46 | bravvve | Dougie187: sdk? |
| 14:04.57 | Dougie187 | bravvve: thats why i say, i think it has something to do with the way you configured it. |
| 14:04.58 | Dougie187 | yakischloba: when you move up, do you get to go in later? |
| 14:05.14 | Dougie187 | bravvve: what do you mean? SDK version? then 0.9 |
| 14:05.27 | yakischloba | Dougie187: heh maybe. I might be inclined to keep this schedule if I can get used to it. I really like having the afternoon |
| 14:05.42 | Dougie187 | yeah, and the non-rush hour drive. |
| 14:06.06 | bravvve | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:06.33 | Dougie187 | lol, no offense, but if you configured it by typing stuff in, i doubt its configured right based on how you type in here. |
| 14:06.48 | Dougie187 | either way. |
| 14:06.54 | Dougie187 | what does it say for your SDK path? |
| 14:07.22 | bravvve | SDK path??? |
| 14:07.32 | Dougie187 | yeah. |
| 14:07.38 | yakischloba | bravvve: I recommend you give up on the notion of software development |
| 14:07.40 | Dougie187 | in Window->Preferences->Android |
| 14:07.43 | Dougie187 | lol |
| 14:08.26 | bravvve | sdk location ,no problem with this |
| 14:09.50 | Dougie187 | what do you have it set to? |
| 14:10.31 | bravvve | in my /home/user/eclipse/android |
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| 14:11.13 | Dougie187 | what do you get if you do a "ls /home/user/eclipse/android"? |
| 14:12.14 | bravvve | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:12.59 | Dougie187 | well, i don't know what to tell you. |
| 14:13.06 | Dougie187 | everything works for me and 90% of this room. |
| 14:13.15 | Dougie187 | or more then 90%... |
| 14:14.46 | bravvve | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:15.23 | Dougie187 | sounds like something is wrong to me. |
| 14:17.42 | bravvve | generic adt problem |
| 14:19.29 | tric | bravvve: whats your default jdk and javac and so on in /etc/alternatives? maybe openjdk? |
| 14:20.57 | tric | you need to use the sun sdk. your key in ~/.android is prolly broken now. some google guy helped me resolving this by calling keytool directly |
| 14:21.14 | tric | but sorry, i cannot remember. so maybe try with a clean ~/.android |
| 14:22.36 | bravvve | update-alternatives --config java |
| 14:22.37 | bravvve | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:23.04 | tric | javac and keytool are more important afaik |
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| 14:40.51 | fariseo | give me one of these with android http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=64790 |
| 14:40.54 | fariseo | now! |
| 14:41.38 | Dougie187 | i think the answer to your demand is... no |
| 14:41.45 | Dougie187 | but it would be cool |
| 14:42.09 | fariseo | no, but wait |
| 14:42.09 | fariseo | or |
| 14:42.14 | fariseo | no, never |
| 14:42.37 | Dougie187 | no |
| 14:42.41 | Dougie187 | possibly not never. |
| 14:42.44 | Dougie187 | but we will see |
| 14:42.56 | Dougie187 | someone might have a way to get android on one of those suckers. |
| 14:43.20 | bravvve | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:43.34 | Dougie187 | bravvve: ionno |
| 14:43.35 | Dougie187 | google it. |
| 14:43.45 | bravvve | ok |
| 14:44.16 | bravvve | Dougie187:i v cleaned .android |
| 14:44.26 | Dougie187 | ok. |
| 14:44.32 | Dougie187 | i wasn't the one who told you to do that though. |
| 14:45.32 | bravvve | Dougie187: con u tell me what ur contain? |
| 14:45.40 | Dougie187 | what? |
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| 14:46.02 | fariseo | what does 'GPS and A-GPS ready' mean |
| 14:46.13 | Dougie187 | google it. |
| 14:46.14 | fariseo | it has a built.in GPS or not? |
| 14:46.17 | Dougie187 | or look it up on wikipedia. |
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| 14:49.42 | tric | bravvve: try to rebuild your app in eclipse, it should recreate .android. maybe cleaning your sig key in .android is enough. by using openjdk you fucked up your build enviroment. |
| 14:50.44 | bravvve | ok |
| 14:52.49 | tric | debian sucks with using openjdk as default. |
| 14:53.57 | umdk1d3 | fariseo: AGPS is assisted GPS, which means it tries guessing/triangulating your location from nearby GSM cell towers |
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| 14:54.26 | umdk1d3 | it uses much less power than a full GPS chipset, and is reasonably accurate |
| 14:55.31 | umdk1d3 | if your phone has both, it might offer an option to turn of the full GPS and fallback to AGPS when you want to save power |
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| 14:56.37 | fariseo | i know what it is, i just didnt now if that htc HD has it or not |
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| 15:00.51 | Dougie187 | good morning morrildl |
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| 15:16.45 | morrildl | morning Dougie187 |
| 15:16.57 | Dougie187 | have a good weekend? |
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| 15:24.49 | morrildl | Dougie187: yup... how about you? |
| 15:25.03 | Dougie187 | yeah it was pretty good. |
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| 16:03.24 | zhobbs | hmmmm: http://androidcommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=513 |
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| 16:04.05 | zhobbs | features "Android Home Edition V1.0" |
| 16:04.21 | zhobbs | that's weak, I really wanted "Android Ultimate Edition 1.0" |
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| 16:06.06 | umdk1d3 | zhobbs: nice find!! =D |
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| 16:15.48 | rob-cs | zhobbs: so you think its fake? |
| 16:16.04 | zhobbs | don't know...hope it's real |
| 16:16.19 | zhobbs | the buttons on the device look like android buttons |
| 16:16.32 | umdk1d3 | and that odd red logo in the status bar |
| 16:17.22 | zhobbs | I'd like to see the link to the original att blog post |
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| 16:27.08 | bravvve | hi any one runing android under linux |
| 16:27.20 | zhobbs | bravvve: the emulator? |
| 16:27.59 | bravvve | i want ~/.android |
| 16:28.20 | bravvve | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:28.30 | bravvve | http://code.google.com/android/kb/troubleshooting.html#signingcalendar |
| 16:28.30 | zhobbs | what do you mean?? |
| 16:29.09 | bravvve | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:29.19 | zhobbs | yeah |
| 16:29.52 | zhobbs | well, ubuntu really |
| 16:29.58 | bravvve | can help to run helloandroid? |
| 16:30.39 | zhobbs | what's the problem? |
| 16:31.37 | bravvve | zhobbs:http://www.anddev.org/could_not_fined_apk_file-t2834.html |
| 16:33.52 | bravvve | zhobbs:heve u sean it befor? |
| 16:34.04 | zhobbs | no, don't know what the problem is |
| 16:35.34 | bravvve | zhobbs:take a look:http://code.google.com/android/kb/troubleshooting.html#signingcalendar |
| 16:40.16 | bravvve | zhobbs: what debian? |
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| 17:11.37 | umdk1d3 | hmm |
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| 17:11.53 | umdk1d3 | are there any easy ways to use the layouts in the preference dialogs? |
| 17:12.28 | umdk1d3 | maybe not, because android.R.layout seems pretty sparse |
| 17:13.21 | romainguy_ | umdk1d3: just use the preferences framework |
| 17:13.25 | romainguy_ | see the ApiDemos |
| 17:13.59 | umdk1d3 | true, but i was looking to borrow one of those layouts to use in my own AlertDialog |
| 17:14.28 | romainguy_ | why don't you just do an activity? |
| 17:15.28 | umdk1d3 | i was looking to create a quick pop-up text editor, similar to those shown for EditTextPreference |
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| 17:15.43 | umdk1d3 | looked like AlertDialog was the right direction with setView() |
| 17:15.46 | Dougie187 | nice. |
| 17:15.47 | Dougie187 | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26674814/ |
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| 17:18.59 | umdk1d3 | still wonders how close they will cut the marketplace announcement |
| 17:19.09 | umdk1d3 | with regards to the details of adding apps to it |
| 17:19.12 | umdk1d3 | signing and everything |
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| 17:19.33 | umdk1d3 | because you kinda want apps in the store before phones hit the shelves |
| 17:20.07 | umdk1d3 | ooh also we have that 1.0 sdk coming sometime this month accd to roadmap |
| 17:20.07 | muthu | agree |
| 17:20.17 | muthu | when's the market launch? |
| 17:20.19 | muthu | sep 23? |
| 17:20.27 | umdk1d3 | no clue |
| 17:20.36 | umdk1d3 | there are dates flying all over the place |
| 17:20.55 | muthu | yeah, one blog said andy rubin confirmed sep 23 |
| 17:21.32 | muthu | umdk1d3, is there an inline edittext for preferences? |
| 17:22.07 | umdk1d3 | yep android.preference.EditTextPreference |
| 17:22.18 | umdk1d3 | but im looking to use it outside of preferences |
| 17:22.30 | umdk1d3 | *it=something like it |
| 17:22.30 | muthu | is it inline |
| 17:22.40 | muthu | its pops up a dialog |
| 17:23.00 | muthu | want like the checkbox one, but for text |
| 17:23.02 | umdk1d3 | that object is inline in a list, but also pops up an edit dialog on click |
| 17:23.12 | umdk1d3 | oh i dont think they have an inline EditText one |
| 17:23.17 | muthu | oh ok |
| 17:23.21 | umdk1d3 | where the EditText appears in the preferences list |
| 17:23.37 | muthu | kinda sux, to open a edit dialog |
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| 17:24.18 | muthu | is there a way to reuse the contact screen? |
| 17:25.00 | umdk1d3 | not sure, you might fire a .PICK intent |
| 17:25.22 | muthu | it might be dependent on contacts content provider |
| 17:25.27 | bravvve | hi,can any one give me his ~/.android |
| 17:25.39 | muthu | why you need that? |
| 17:25.44 | umdk1d3 | bravvve: you should be able to erase it, and the emulator will re-create it when it first launches |
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| 17:27.11 | bravvve | umdk1d3:but am my debian is french i nead english debug-key |
| 17:27.47 | bravvve | http://code.google.com/android/intro/develop-and-debug.html#signing |
| 17:27.51 | romainguy_ | on pourrait parler français alors :) |
| 17:28.39 | bravvve | romainguy_:oui,et ça serai cool si tu travaille sous debian |
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| 17:31.10 | bravvve | umdk1d3:so can help? |
| 17:32.29 | bravvve | romainguy_:encor la, |
| 17:32.35 | romainguy_ | bravvve: non je ne bosse pas sous Debian |
| 17:33.22 | xavd_ | bravvve: english debug key? |
| 17:33.51 | bravvve | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:33.57 | romainguy_ | bravvve: Mac OS X |
| 17:34.12 | bravvve | xavd_:yes |
| 17:34.25 | xavd_ | keys don't have locale associated to them |
| 17:35.48 | bravvve | mean? |
| 17:36.10 | xavd_ | it means that creating a debug key on a french system won't be a problem |
| 17:37.53 | bravvve | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:38.50 | xavd_ | can you go to eclipse settings and enble the verbose mode under android > eclipse |
| 17:39.04 | xavd_ | and then clean your project and check the output in the console |
| 17:40.58 | bravvve | clean my project? |
| 17:41.28 | xavd_ | Project > Clean ... |
| 17:43.53 | bravvve | and ??? |
| 17:45.12 | tric | bravvve: and rebuild it |
| 17:45.17 | xavd_ | and select your project to clean it (to force a rebuild) |
| 17:45.53 | bravvve | ok |
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| 17:48.42 | bravvve | where can i post it? |
| 17:49.50 | tretle | hi, I have seen some hacks to get andoid working on current hardware like the htc polaris, I was wondering whether its being run on top of windows mobile or whether windows mobile is completely replaced by android and a modified boot loader? |
| 17:51.13 | Dougie187 | most likely it has been running on top of windows mobile |
| 17:51.25 | Dougie187 | since its just the sdk that has been released so far afaik. |
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| 17:58.50 | tretle | :( |
| 17:59.20 | Dougie187 | you will have to wait until android comes out. |
| 17:59.39 | Dougie187 | just like everyone else in here. |
| 17:59.58 | tretle | hope the htc dream doesnt end up costing too much then, need a new phone badly but willing to wait at max an another month.. |
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| 18:00.21 | Dougie187 | what do you mean by too much? |
| 18:00.28 | Dougie187 | 250? |
| 18:00.43 | tretle | 250 euros would be ok |
| 18:00.50 | tretle | but that depends |
| 18:01.03 | tretle | 250euros plus a contact kinda sucks |
| 18:01.11 | tretle | *contract |
| 18:01.13 | Dougie187 | heh, well we will see. |
| 18:01.37 | Dougie187 | im curious if the overseas release is the same date as the us release. |
| 18:04.17 | tretle | I'm curios as to whether android will really lower prices for smartphones and lower the entry barrier for consumers or whether the handset manufacturers will just pocket the cash saved from the lack of need for licensing and just charge the same sucky prices, Im hoping for the first one there, would be cool for people to be able to buy touch screen smart phones for 150 - 200euro on a pay as you go plan |
| 18:05.14 | Dougie187 | we'll see |
| 18:05.25 | tretle | I mean you can get an atom based netbook for the same price as a smartphone with a contract which is ridiculous |
| 18:05.48 | Dougie187 | yeah |
| 18:06.10 | Dougie187 | you could install skype on it and a wwan card, and then you have a portable cell phone |
| 18:06.11 | Dougie187 | ;) |
| 18:06.41 | tretle | lol, coupled with a 3g card and your good to go |
| 18:06.45 | tretle | :) |
| 18:06.46 | Dougie187 | it would be a pain to walk down the street on the phone though |
| 18:07.02 | Dougie187 | you would have to carry your netbook tethered to your ear. |
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| 18:12.05 | bazz | so, is the eclipse plugin repository down or something? i get a 404 on https://dl-ssl.google.com/android/eclipse/? |
| 18:12.44 | xavd_ | it's normal |
| 18:12.54 | xavd_ | there's no default html file in that folder |
| 18:13.20 | xavd_ | if you add site.xml at the end you'll get the file (eclipse knows about the filename so there's no reason to addd it to the URL) |
| 18:15.34 | bazz | xavd_: ahh, it wasn't working in eclipse because of the https, if i change it to http it works fine :) |
| 18:16.21 | xavd_ | yeah some people have some problem with that |
| 18:17.51 | bazz | anyway, it's working fine now, thanks |
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| 18:45.42 | kingkung | hey guys |
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| 18:46.07 | kingkung | does anyone have any experience receiving incoming SMS's? |
| 18:46.32 | kingkung | i have an SMS receiver (from anddev), but something doesn't seem to be working in 0.9 |
| 18:46.38 | kingkung | it worked fine in m5 |
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| 18:55.13 | xavd_ | kingkung: did you set the permission to receive the SMS? |
| 19:27.29 | herriojr | oh my god, I had smack.jar working, and now when I revert to that tag, it no longer works... |
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| 19:58.28 | kingkung | hello? |
| 19:58.31 | kingkung | anyone there? |
| 20:03.34 | plusminus_ | hi |
| 20:03.51 | plusminus_ | whats working no more? |
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| 21:41.25 | umdk1d3 | wow http://www.techcrunch50.com/2008/conference/presenter.php?presenter=76 |
| 21:44.58 | mickrobk | whats the diff between that and this? |
| 21:44.59 | mickrobk | http://code.google.com/android/adc_gallery/app.html?id=38 |
| 21:45.16 | umdk1d3 | not sure, but idea seems similar |
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| 21:55.29 | rob-cs | uhhh |
| 21:55.33 | rob-cs | those are totally different |
| 21:55.39 | rob-cs | those are startups in any industry |
| 21:55.50 | rob-cs | it could be an idea for a fastfood restaurant |
| 21:56.06 | mickrobk | the 2 programs, not the 2 contests |
| 21:56.47 | rob-cs | oh, gotchya |
| 21:56.54 | rob-cs | if you ask me, those are both destined for failure |
| 21:57.12 | rob-cs | they said it allows you to type up to 30 words per minute or something |
| 21:57.21 | rob-cs | thats worse than a nice Full QWERTY like the Voyager |
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| 22:02.41 | chomchom | Good eve |
| 22:03.29 | chomchom | Anyone going to be at the London dev day tomorrow |
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