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| 03:29.36 | SkAk | Hello, I don't have any questions. In the case that it interests you, the dialog that pops up to explain that the addon Atlas does not come up with it's modules any longer and gives a download link for the older modules/etc. appears to be confusing your Ackis Recipe List to the point where I had 750 counts of the error and WoW told me that my UI was failing and that I essentially needed "serious help". This will probably confuse some players |
| 03:29.36 | SkAk | as they won't dig deeper... |
| 03:31.36 | SkAk | If you need, I would be happy to send you whatever logs are available to me. I'm just not certain where to collect them from. |
| 03:33.12 | SkAk | <~ *nixgeek, if you do respond you don't have to speak in computer-illiterate lack-lingo |
| 03:53.40 | Torhal | SkAk: Wait...Atlas is erroring? |
| 03:54.24 | Torhal | SkAk: Install http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/bugsack |
| 03:54.49 | Torhal | When you get an error, you'll be able to click its minimap button (or LDB button) to get a window from which you can copy/paste the error. |
| 03:57.16 | SkAk | I was unaware that bugsacks reports were copy/pasteable. Thanks for that. Brb with the info. |
| 03:57.40 | Torhal | Danke. |
| 03:58.51 | SkAk | 854x ...AckisRecipeList\libs\LibDialog-1.0\LibDialog-1.0-7.lua:282: attempt to index local 'delegate' (a nil value) |
| 03:58.52 | SkAk | ...AckisRecipeList\libs\LibDialog-1.0\LibDialog-1.0-7.lua:282: in function <...AckisRecipeList\libs\LibDialog-1.0\LibDialog-1.0.lua:264> |
| 03:58.52 | SkAk | Locals: |
| 03:59.09 | SkAk | Is the error that occurred more than enough times. there's an error prior and after that are just single occurrences |
| 03:59.20 | SkAk | If you need those I'll grab them as well. |
| 04:00.34 | Torhal | Ah |
| 04:00.36 | SkAk | I'm sure it's reproducable if you only install Atlas Core (without modules) and Ackis recipe list. Log in, select toon, dialog pops stating you don't have all of atlas, wait for a bit and errors start counting. |
| 04:00.48 | Torhal | Alphabetical loading with libs strikes again! |
| 04:01.15 | Torhal | If you disabled ARL and had another AddOn that loaded before Atlas, you'd get the same error but attributed to that AddOn :/ |
| 04:01.36 | Torhal | Whichever loads the lib first gets its name attached. |
| 04:01.56 | Torhal | Not sure what I can do about that except to see if perhaps that's a bug in the library...which happens to be mine. |
| 04:02.10 | Torhal | looks. |
| 04:04.04 | SkAk | I'm far more interested in how you got to and gave me that answer than in the solution. The solution for me is to install the rest of the Atlas Modules lol. If you have the time, wanna gimme a nutshell on what that error translates into? |
| 04:04.25 | SkAk | I mean, I get what you already told me. |
| 04:05.34 | SkAk | ex. "attempt to index local 'delegate' (a nil value)" I don't know what that refers to... but I know a bit about programming so if the answer actually happens to be long and in depth then thanks for your time :) |
| 04:09.48 | Torhal | SkAk: In LibDialog-1.0, a dialog frame is spawned based on a delegate, which can't be touched by the dialog itself. It's basically a template that defines the dialog's behaviors. |
| 04:10.24 | Torhal | The fact that code is running on a dialog that has a non-existent delegate is suspect at best. |
| 04:11.58 | SkAk | So the fix probably lies within the code for Atlas rather than with where I've arrived here? |
| 04:14.34 | Torhal | Nah. The library shouldn't be trying to do something to a dialog if it's missing its delegate. |
| 04:17.54 | Torhal | [22:17:34] <Repo>libdialog-1-0: Torhal * r82 (2 files in 1 directory): Added tag 6.1.0.2 for changeset c412b20f9e2b |
| 04:17.55 | Torhal | [22:17:36] <Repo>Added checks for nil delegates in _Dialog_OnShow(), in which case we bail, and in _Dialog_OnUpdate(), in which case the dialog's timer still occurs but no delegate actions (such as on_cancel or on_update) will fire. |
| 04:19.19 | Torhal | I'd love to know what they did to cause that, though. |
| 04:30.20 | Torhal | SkAk: 3.0.16 should be available in about five minutes. |
| 04:39.13 | Torhal | Ok, it's up. |
| 04:55.40 | Torhal | SkAk: I appreciate the report, since it was something I could actually fix, even though it wasn't directly related to Ackis Recipe List :D |
| 05:05.48 | SkAk | Thank you for the knowledge on how you went about fixing it |
| 05:06.35 | SkAk | I know so little about lua... and would love to start running tukui... but the config requires lua to acheive anything of personally appreciated excellence |
| 05:07.29 | SkAk | Do you have a better reccomendation besides tukui? I've been looking... I like minimal... or perhaps a resource/guide for lua... all of these questions being personal and don't really need answers as i have google at my disposal |
| 05:10.56 | Torhal | SkAk: I've been using the same hacked-together UI since '08 |
| 05:11.10 | Torhal | Never really wanted to run one of the everything-plus-the-kitchen-sink UIs. |
| 05:11.48 | SkAk | Wannnnna link a screeny? |
| 05:14.28 | Torhal | SkAk: https://www.dropbox.com/s/bllqlrp9dyvqb5b/Screenshot%202015-02-25%2023.14.08.png?dl=0 |
| 05:27.08 | SkAk | How do you have it set that my name appears before the body of text you type to me at the start of a response? |
| 05:27.25 | SkAk | I know nothing about irc, as embarrassing as that is |
| 05:28.16 | SkAk | I Like how much real estate you have available for the viewport used to view wow |
| 05:29.23 | Torhal | SkAk: My IRC client has tab-complete. I type "sk", hit tab, and it outputs "SkAk: " |
| 05:29.38 | SkAk | which client are you using? |
| 05:29.55 | SkAk | Torhal, test |
| 05:29.57 | Torhal | Textual. OSX client, but that's a pretty standard feature across OSes. |
| 05:30.00 | SkAk | hmm, mine completes too |
| 05:30.05 | Torhal | :D |
| 05:30.30 | SkAk | is there a command escape key? like :help in vim |
| 05:30.53 | Torhal | Depends on the client, but most take /help |
| 05:31.41 | SkAk | EVERYTHING depends on the client. The server is doing it's best. |
| 05:31.53 | SkAk | (joke) |
| 05:32.07 | Torhal | Actually pretty true for IRC. Clients can do magic :D |
| 05:33.28 | SkAk | I usually run Linux for most of my computer usage... and there's a gajillion clients available to download and compile.. especially in the aur of archlinux |
| 05:33.43 | SkAk | I use windows to run wow because wine + wow doesn't seem to allow for alt+tab |
| 05:33.48 | Torhal | I used to use weechat - CLI client. |
| 05:34.22 | Torhal | Best Windows client I've found is Quassel. |
| 05:34.55 | SkAk | You've been rather friendly and helpful, thank you btw :) |
| 05:34.58 | Torhal | But, since I don't like Windows I took my old iMac to the office so I could use Textual there as well, and only use Windows for Visual Studio. |
| 05:35.24 | Torhal | Hehe. The Internet isn't all anonymous children! |
| 05:35.56 | SkAk | I agree. But the real world seems to be, and it's exponentially getting worse. |
| 05:36.04 | SkAk | Even wow is becoming single player what with the garrison thing |
| 05:36.10 | Torhal | Agreed, unfortunately. :/ |
| 05:36.59 | Torhal | Heh, usually when I mouse over Frenemy, I see a solid line of "Garrison" next to people's names. |
| 05:36.59 | SkAk | I'm gonna check out that quassel business. HexChat tried to modify some registry key and failed... so I'm just going to give it the middle finger |
| 05:37.22 | SkAk | Frenemy? |
| 05:37.24 | Torhal | Oh, Quassel has stylesheets to make it look the way you want |
| 05:37.36 | Torhal | Yeah, one of my friend/guild/BNet AddOns. |
| 05:37.52 | Torhal | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/frenemy |
| 05:38.20 | Torhal | You can move the sections around and collapse them as well. |
| 05:39.17 | SkAk | I am - to put it lightly and not use profanity - a bit of an addonoholic testonaught |
| 05:39.49 | Torhal | I actually work on AddOns more than I play. |
| 05:40.26 | Torhal | http://www.wowace.com/profiles/Torhal/addons/ |
| 05:40.27 | Torhal | >.> |
| 05:40.28 | SkAk | And then you think, I'm paying for a subscription just to see how they look and feel... |
| 05:40.28 | Torhal | <.< |
| 05:41.02 | Torhal | Hah, yeah |
| 05:45.32 | SkAk | is there a /bow? |
| 05:45.42 | Torhal | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:45.53 | SkAk | bows. |
| 05:45.54 | SkAk | nice |
| 05:45.57 | SkAk | Thanks for archyy |
| 05:45.59 | SkAk | archy* |
| 05:46.33 | SkAk | I didn't make the connection that you were the one that wrote it |
| 05:46.48 | Torhal | I'm still in the process of rewriting it, but it's finally at a state where I don't openly cringe at its code/behavior. |
| 05:46.59 | Torhal | Oh, I didn't originally. Took it over about four years ago though. |
| 05:47.17 | Torhal | Been band-aided ever since until the end of January when I decided to stop noping out on the rewrite. |
| 05:48.45 | SkAk | I did notice the twitchiness/tweakiness of the addon.. and sometimes it seems to confuse other things... but playing without it even in that state... i'm not going back to usual archaeology |
| 05:48.52 | SkAk | and arch r0x |
| 05:49.11 | Torhal | If you haven't used it since before 6.1 hit, you'll be in for a surprise. |
| 05:49.17 | Torhal | Pretty stable now. |
| 05:49.40 | Torhal | Not quite done with it yet, though. |
| 05:49.57 | SkAk | I've been using it since cata I do believe... |
| 05:50.18 | SkAk | early mop maybe |
| 05:51.29 | Torhal | Anyway, I should have gone to bed a couple of hours ago. Was nice chatting! |
| 05:51.34 | SkAk | You can install mac on a pc >.> <.< btw |
| 05:51.38 | SkAk | Gnight, thanks |
| 05:51.43 | Torhal | Aye, Hackintosh! |
| 05:51.47 | SkAk | :) |
| 05:51.47 | Torhal | np |
| 06:07.30 | sidji | moin |
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| 10:57.42 | sidji | moin |
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| 14:22.11 | Torhal | Hello |
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| 14:49.29 | sidji | Yola |
| 14:51.21 | Ressy | hi |
| 15:53.26 | Torhal | Ressy: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9cjzimpr30drkem/2015-02-26%2008.30.41.jpg?dl=0 |
| 15:53.34 | Torhal | It finally happened. |
| 15:54.11 | Torhal | Nearly the same view from 9 days ago when it "snowed" - https://www.dropbox.com/s/6i6c6wamkpqhb10/2015-02-17%2009.50.46.jpg?dl=0 |
| 16:01.29 | Ressy | yikes |
| 16:01.31 | Ressy | how much you get? |
| 16:01.45 | Torhal | Guessing 6" |
| 16:02.08 | Torhal | The pic from 9 days ago is what we typically get when it snows :D |
| 16:02.17 | Torhal | And it was made a big deal of. |
| 16:02.31 | Torhal | Schools delayed 3 hours in anticipation, etc. |
| 16:03.36 | Ressy | geez |
| 16:03.43 | Torhal | Hehe |
| 16:03.43 | Ressy | you guys were only supposed to get 3-4 |
| 16:03.58 | Ressy | shut down again today i assume |
| 16:04.35 | Torhal | Oh, yeah |
| 16:04.37 | Torhal | https://www.dropbox.com/s/ogokt6e2e5nuinl/2015-02-26%2008.31.25.jpg?dl=0 |
| 16:05.11 | Ressy | nobody has shovels right? lol |
| 16:05.46 | Ressy | You know what we do here when theres no plows coming down the streets? |
| 16:05.54 | Ressy | people go out and have a shovelling party |
| 16:05.57 | Torhal | Heh |
| 16:06.10 | Ressy | people start shovelling the driveways and streets |
| 16:06.17 | Ressy | some bring out coffee or hot chocolate for others |
| 16:06.35 | Ressy | especially for those older people. |
| 16:06.41 | Ressy | cat litter is good to use btw. |
| 16:06.42 | Torhal | We don't do that in Ohio, where snow is way more prevalent. I'm guessing you get a bit more than we did there. :D |
| 16:06.47 | Ressy | ;) |
| 16:07.00 | Ressy | we've had that sitting around for a while. |
| 16:07.06 | Ressy | main streets are clear. |
| 16:07.09 | Ressy | back streets.. eh.. |
| 16:07.16 | Ressy | sidewalks? lmao |
| 16:07.39 | Ressy | had to help one of the mothers pull her stroller through the snow on the sidewalk. |
| 16:09.10 | Ressy | Got to the school to pick up nathan last night.. |
| 16:09.21 | Ressy | he insisted we wait on his friend |
| 16:09.28 | Torhal | lol |
| 16:19.45 | Ressy | wow... |
| 16:19.54 | Ressy | You listening to this FCC? |
| 16:20.24 | Torhal | ...no? |
| 16:20.34 | Ressy | drives 12 miles to the church, for her son to watch a required biology video, for discussion the next day. |
| 16:20.43 | Ressy | its the net neutrality vote right now |
| 16:20.50 | Ressy | http://www.fcc.gov/live |
| 16:21.09 | Ressy | 12 miles, due to not having access to sufficient speeds/reasonable prices for internet. |
| 16:21.38 | Ressy | YAY |
| 16:21.40 | Ressy | carried |
| 16:22.24 | Ressy | Tenessee municipal broadband companies can now expand outside their borders, to provide service |
| 16:22.35 | Torhal | Good. |
| 16:22.56 | Ressy | and North Carolina |
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