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| 01:43.10 | hipboi | specing: hi |
| 01:43.24 | hipboi | specing: are you looking for me? |
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| 07:21.41 | hno | devicetree is defenitely the right path for script.bin. |
| 07:25.43 | mnemoc | .ini files are nicer read :p |
| 07:30.04 | hipboi | can't we put the pin in mach-sun4i/machine.c? |
| 07:30.34 | hipboi | most of the pins are the same |
| 07:31.37 | mnemoc | hipboi! any news about the gpl-violating 3.0.8+ tree/diff/snapshot? :) |
| 07:32.54 | hno | the diff gpl-violating? |
| 07:34.09 | mnemoc | tree/diff/snapshot are three forms (by preference) of sharing their closed and still gpl-violating 3.0 tree |
| 07:35.08 | hno | anything particular we need from it? |
| 07:35.31 | mnemoc | not sure until I see it ;-) |
| 07:37.59 | mnemoc | hno: a part I fail to understand about devicetree is that it seems to be intended for having a single kernel binary for several boards and several SoC/machines |
| 07:38.20 | mnemoc | but on the other side we have the machine_type thing which does the exact oposite |
| 07:38.36 | mnemoc | destroying the purpose of devicetree |
| 07:39.57 | mnemoc | also, from a more eoma-ish perspective, can this tree be updated on runtime when a suspended card gets moved from one device to another? |
| 07:49.44 | A0Sheds | lkcl: here's the updated proposal for GSOC and RTEMS https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FMtNfxkYSVM4-QY-zBrMJQMDSL7Nvo8GeUr7xinzOYc/edit?pli=1 |
| 07:50.20 | A0Sheds | feel free to make and suggestions, additions or more details |
| 08:28.44 | hipboi | mnemoc: got reply from market guy, by the end of this month the 3.0 kernel will be open |
| 08:28.54 | hipboi | together with the A10 spec. |
| 08:35.13 | mnemoc | hipboi: great :) |
| 08:36.01 | mnemoc | hipboi: but wondering, is this bound to the launching of the sun5i? |
| 08:36.20 | hipboi | sun5i is already selling |
| 08:36.41 | hipboi | btw, i am going to marry by the end of this month |
| 08:36.53 | mnemoc | \o/ |
| 08:37.08 | mnemoc | congratulations hipboi |
| 08:37.14 | hipboi | my girlfriend is pregnant, so... |
| 08:37.39 | mnemoc | I also wish you are allowed to have more than 1 child soon :) |
| 08:37.53 | hipboi | but i am too young to be a father... |
| 08:38.14 | hipboi | i am worried every day |
| 08:38.18 | mnemoc | I had my first daughter been 21 |
| 08:38.28 | QingPei | hipboi: congratulations~~~ |
| 08:38.45 | hipboi | mmemoc: really? |
| 08:38.57 | hipboi | i am 24 this year. |
| 08:39.01 | mnemoc | it was tough, but it absolutely worth it |
| 08:39.05 | hipboi | QingPei: thank you |
| 08:39.26 | hipboi | i think i am having a tough time now. |
| 08:40.58 | mnemoc | it's probably harder there as you live in company provided dorms, family been always far away, etc etc |
| 08:43.05 | hipboi | i live in a rent house, it's true family is far far away |
| 08:52.45 | mnemoc | been able to see your children daily is the best power source, gives a completely new reason to do things.. but it's hard to adjust :p |
| 08:54.40 | mnemoc | hipboi: changing topic back to linux sources, will that release include sun5i support? |
| 08:55.02 | hipboi | i think sun5i source will not release |
| 08:55.17 | hipboi | i am not sure |
| 08:55.34 | mnemoc | that's a part of chinese strategies I fail to understand |
| 08:55.43 | hipboi | yeah |
| 08:55.53 | hipboi | i don't understand either |
| 08:56.23 | mnemoc | making the source publicly available (and mainlined) helps allwinner to sell more |
| 08:56.39 | mnemoc | and reduce internal burden |
| 10:48.04 | specing | ohay hipboi... |
| 10:48.08 | specing | nwm.. |
| 10:50.58 | lkcl | A0Sheds: taaaaa |
| 11:10.29 | MaDMaLKaV | quick question, currently we need the console for booting any kernel on the a1000 right? |
| 11:11.58 | MaDMaLKaV | second quick question, the cable for connecting it to the a1000, is like those old cables for cdrom audio connection to the motherboard, right? |
| 11:31.26 | mnemoc | MaDMaLKaV: in most normal cables are pins are 2.54mm away, in the mele a1000 they are 2.00mm |
| 11:32.24 | MaDMaLKaV | yeah, but those old cdrom cables had dual headers normally and I *think* the second header is 2.00mm |
| 11:33.00 | MaDMaLKaV | don't have any at hand to take a photo but they should be easy to get, tomorrow I have probably go to ponteareas to do some stuff and I can stop in that sotre I worked some years ago and grab some |
| 11:34.26 | mnemoc | MaDMaLKaV: you are from galicia, right? if you happen to pass by Corunna (city) I can give you a few 2.00mm-2.54mm jumper wires. I received 80 today :p |
| 11:35.37 | MaDMaLKaV | lol. I travel a lot along all galicia, but mainly south part. If I get to go to Corunha I will tell you here to go for a beer :) |
| 11:35.58 | mnemoc | ^^ |
| 11:36.39 | mnemoc | In the mean time I can send you some cables by mail too |
| 11:38.15 | MaDMaLKaV | if they are the ones I think, I can get them easily here. lemme look for a photo... |
| 11:38.40 | MaDMaLKaV | http://www.google.es/imgres?hl=gl&sa=G&gbv=2&tbm=isch&tbnid=O8rFmSBpqhd1LM:&imgrefurl=http://www.pacificcable.com/Picture_Page.asp%3FDataName%3DAudio-Y&docid=uH3spZ5rd7O8AM&imgurl=http://www.pacificcable.com/photos/Audio-Y.jpg&w=430&h=432&ei=sBuET872E8KFhQeWleDXCA&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=680&sig=100225867521477863311&page=1&tbnh=149&tbnw=144&start=0&ndsp=46&ved=1t:429,r:4,s:0,i:73&tx=37&ty=75&biw=1920&bih=986 |
| 11:39.45 | mnemoc | MaDMaLKaV: nope, http://www.ebay.es/itm/280839459714 |
| 11:40.04 | mnemoc | i don't think that connector will fit |
| 11:41.36 | MaDMaLKaV | ok, if I can't get it here I will send you a PM to get some of yours, thanks for the offer |
| 11:42.12 | mnemoc | yw |
| 11:43.51 | mnemoc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In635nKlMfo <--- allwinner a13/sun5i based tablet! |
| 11:44.35 | mnemoc | somehow I expected it to be cortex-a9... |
| 11:45.16 | mnemoc | boxchip == allwinner |
| 11:45.59 | mnemoc | puzzled |
| 11:46.30 | mnemoc | It seems it's still sun4i |
| 11:46.42 | mnemoc | just a castrated a10 |
| 11:46.50 | MaDMaLKaV | yeah |
| 11:47.16 | MaDMaLKaV | that is what people of nvsbl told me last time I was with them, allwinner was making a stripped down version of a10 for the chinese market |
| 11:48.06 | mnemoc | Tom said some ours ago they were already selling sun5i chips, but he can't disclose specs |
| 11:48.29 | mnemoc | that's why I got overexcited about this A13 |
| 11:48.31 | MaDMaLKaV | until we don't have source code, I don't care about other cpus |
| 11:48.41 | MaDMaLKaV | only thing bringing me here is a cheap soc with available code |
| 11:48.42 | mnemoc | fully agree |
| 11:49.06 | MaDMaLKaV | and if I can get xbmc running on it, I'm sure I can get a spanish company to sell it here |
| 11:50.08 | mnemoc | mele a1000/a2000 + xbmc ? or your own hardware? |
| 11:51.11 | MaDMaLKaV | mele |
| 11:52.21 | mnemoc | nice |
| 11:55.02 | MaDMaLKaV | have to leave, see you later |
| 14:25.18 | traeak | wat's stripped out of the a13? |
| 14:25.23 | traeak | probably sata i gather |
| 14:26.37 | mnemoc | the tablet of the video doesn't have hdmi |
| 14:45.25 | traeak | logical to tear that out as well |
| 14:45.26 | traeak | hmm |
| 14:48.52 | mnemoc | a13 is a great replacement for all devices that normally would be happy with arm9/11 |
| 14:52.13 | traeak | "entry level armv7" |
| 14:52.16 | traeak | which is pretty necessary |
| 14:54.32 | traeak | wonder if it has neon |
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| 16:40.29 | MaDMaLKaV | back |
| 16:45.38 | MaDMaLKaV | hope hipboi gets back soon, I want to ask him about the licensing of the video decoder |
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| 16:46.39 | mnemoc | MaDMaLKaV: the library is closed sorce |
| 16:47.09 | mnemoc | and "marketing" doesn't have any interest in opening it |
| 16:48.34 | specing | fucking marketing |
| 16:49.28 | traeak | for the a13 you mean? |
| 16:49.51 | specing | Opensourcing everything would probably kill just about any cortex-a* vendor out there |
| 16:50.17 | mnemoc | traeak: I'm assuming he means https://github.com/amery/allwinner-a10-video |
| 16:50.46 | mnemoc | that's client-side code and documentation, all public domain |
| 16:51.07 | mnemoc | at least that's what Tom said |
| 16:52.24 | mnemoc | .a files are there too in case someone wants to reverse engineer stuff |
| 16:53.34 | mnemoc | they come from the SDK, given to anyone paying $1000 for the official devkit |
| 16:53.34 | traeak | those libraries need to be licensed per cpu or something |
| 16:54.42 | mnemoc | it's so absurd considering it will only work on their chips, so better support durectly means more sales |
| 16:56.18 | MaDMaLKaV | well, l know some people meeting with mele in the next days, they will try to convince mele to tell allwinner to gives us a gpl compliant interface to the video decoder, let's see if seeing companies that are pending of buying some thousand units asking for it help us |
| 16:56.25 | MaDMaLKaV | have to leave, later |
| 17:04.43 | traeak | all the fun of who pays the codec licensing fees |
| 17:57.28 | MaDMaLKaV | back |
| 18:22.40 | lkcl | hello back |
| 18:26.01 | CIA-91 | rhombus-tech: lkcl master * rdc18e2f8d527 /allwinner_a10/orders/Quantity:_1-2.mdwn: order processing cleanup |
| 21:19.07 | CIA-91 | rhombus-tech: Legendinis master * r011e617dc6eb /allwinner_a10/orders/not_valid/legendinis.mdwn: Contact added. Sorry for not do this first time. |
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| 22:52.40 | eflatun | hi when will the beta cards be available? |
| 22:53.13 | eflatun | sorry the alfa ones |
| 22:54.22 | eflatun | i found this http://www.fit-pc.com/web/fit-pc/fit-pc3-info/ |
| 22:54.33 | eflatun | but it is too much exp |
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