| 00:25.39 | A0Sheds | http://cdn.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4371532/Startup-claims--Holy-Grail--of-SoC-design |
| 00:25.55 | A0Sheds | "We can move your designs from algorithms to chips in as little as eight weeks," |
| 00:36.13 | A0Sheds | ManoftheSea, yes, uHDMI was the last to be sourced, just last week |
| 00:39.41 | ManoftheSea | yay |
| 00:40.14 | ManoftheSea | do I need to get nickles now? |
| 01:09.26 | A0Sheds | nicklles? |
| 01:10.45 | ManoftheSea | yes. They're good for throwing money. |
| 01:11.03 | ManoftheSea | And I want to throw money at open-source hardware |
| 01:15.02 | A0Sheds | ever try wrapping bricks in singles? |
| 01:33.01 | ManoftheSea | but, open-source hardware shouldn't be a brick |
| 01:38.59 | A0Sheds | open bricks |
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| 05:11.21 | karthik | Hello.. I'm looking to buy All winner ARM Cortex A8 1.2 Ghz processor |
| 05:11.33 | karthik | could anyone let me know what's the exact price and how can I get it |
| 05:17.08 | A0Sheds | you might want to contact allwinner |
| 05:17.35 | A0Sheds | http://www.allwinnertech.com/ |
| 05:47.03 | karthik | I'm trying to build a 7" tablet for android. I'm looking for casing options. if anyone knows about the casing options please do let me know |
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| 13:26.07 | A0Sheds | http://boundarydevices.com/imx6-nitrogen finally pci-e for an arm soc with an integrated gpu |
| 13:27.42 | mnemoc | afaik steev is working with that SoC |
| 13:45.28 | ManoftheSea | But how is FreeScale for FOSS? |
| 13:48.12 | mnemoc | imx6 is linaro supported afaik |
| 14:13.11 | steev | mnemoc: indeed we are, freescale is okay, some of their code is horrible, but they are definitely trying harder |
| 14:13.58 | steev | have 3 of the nitrogen here at the moment, i'd wait for fsl's new board personally |
| 14:20.58 | mnemoc | steev: any idea when genesi will launch their new boards/devices ? |
| 14:21.22 | steev | mnemoc: no eta :/ |
| 14:21.43 | mnemoc | It's been like a year since the cuties used to present hardfloat where shown.. |
| 14:22.09 | mnemoc | were* |
| 14:22.10 | steev | cuties? |
| 14:22.20 | mnemoc | some very small boards |
| 14:23.01 | steev | mmm, we've continued working on hardfloat (markos is a genesi employee who has been working with linaro) |
| 14:23.42 | mnemoc | it was shown on a tradeshow but I can't find the link :-/ |
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| 14:24.20 | mnemoc | http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/23/genesi-i-mx-53-netbooks-nettops-to-take-freescale-machines-deep/ |
| 14:24.39 | steev | ah right |
| 14:24.48 | steev | strokes the board sitting next to him |
| 14:25.13 | steev | the mx53 won't be a consumer product by us. our next consumer produce will be mx6 based, our mx53 board is strictly for licensing |
| 14:25.13 | mnemoc | it was very cute :) |
| 14:25.26 | steev | the board itself is smaller than an iphone |
| 14:28.23 | mnemoc | the mx6 based one too? |
| 14:28.30 | mnemoc | or no prototype yet? |
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| 14:46.17 | steev | no prototype yet, but the plan is the same size yes |
| 14:46.48 | steev | we may have something for FTF this year, depending on how this other job is going, all focus is on it at the moment |
| 14:47.01 | traeak | nice just got my mele |
| 14:47.17 | steev | i love new toys |
| 14:47.24 | traeak | yeah |
| 14:47.29 | traeak | the docket is full sadly |
| 14:47.40 | traeak | i was just playign with the supplied firmware |
| 14:47.54 | traeak | tom was nice enough to send me the remote and the hard drive case as well |
| 14:50.33 | A0Sheds | I'll make an imx6 eoma68 card, I'm just stuck waiting until the official release in June |
| 14:51.38 | A0Sheds | if they gave me the specs two months ago it would be done by now |
| 15:24.36 | mnemoc | A0Sheds: and the a10 cards? :) |
| 15:28.31 | A0Sheds | what about them? |
| 15:28.43 | A0Sheds | car wash getting nervous? |
| 15:29.11 | ManoftheSea | car wash? |
| 15:29.31 | A0Sheds | he said he was going to use about 100 of them for car washes |
| 15:29.53 | ManoftheSea | oh, cool. |
| 15:30.19 | ManoftheSea | Maybe you can just 3d-print me a clean car? |
| 15:30.47 | A0Sheds | "Car Wash" powered by ARM's |
| 15:33.38 | mnemoc | A0Sheds: no, just curious. |
| 15:34.33 | mnemoc | A0Sheds: because you said you would have imx6 cards already if they would have given you the specs |
| 15:34.47 | A0Sheds | just sourced the last connectors uHDMI, waiting for them to arrive |
| 15:35.07 | ManoftheSea | so, is there a schedule or roadmap? |
| 15:35.15 | mnemoc | neat |
| 15:35.42 | A0Sheds | get them done when the parts show up |
| 15:35.43 | ManoftheSea | Like, t: receive connectors, t+1w: initial prototype soldered together, t+3w alpha boards |
| 15:36.09 | A0Sheds | lunch 12-4 sometimes not at all |
| 15:37.02 | A0Sheds | ManoftheSea, we keep those people busy watching out for baby pigeons |
| 15:37.14 | ManoftheSea | hunh? planners? |
| 15:37.31 | A0Sheds | yeah "planners" |
| 15:37.41 | ManoftheSea | baby pigeons? What's that mean? |
| 15:37.57 | A0Sheds | ever see one? |
| 15:38.02 | mnemoc | t: receive connectors, t+e: alpha boards shipping ... t and e undefined :p |
| 15:38.05 | ManoftheSea | Can't say I have. |
| 15:38.11 | A0Sheds | they are always adult size |
| 15:38.21 | A0Sheds | where do they come from? |
| 15:38.55 | mnemoc | scratches his dead |
| 15:43.57 | traeak | mele-ubuntu-lucid.img |
| 15:44.00 | traeak | so this is the latest image? |
| 15:44.30 | traeak | i really really dislike debian, i really hate it for development use, it's okay for an appliance though |
| 15:45.30 | ManoftheSea | huh? traeak why? |
| 15:47.18 | traeak | ManoftheSea: i really don't like their administration, no default root, the packages typically are ancient, it's way too easy to break, etc |
| 15:47.56 | ManoftheSea | And that's why you want an ubuntu image for the mele? |
| 15:48.46 | ManoftheSea | I'll give you the ancient packages in stable. but then... you're asking for an LTS image. |
| 15:51.58 | traeak | i prefer arch nowadays |
| 15:53.24 | traeak | ManoftheSea: the ubuntu imgae is all that's there :-p |
| 16:02.50 | ManoftheSea | well, yeah... but Ubuntu = blah. |
| 16:02.54 | ManoftheSea | Not a fan of Unity |
| 16:03.06 | ManoftheSea | likes Wheezy |
| 16:03.46 | traeak | i have a recording appliance that runs xubuntu |
| 16:04.19 | traeak | xubuntu used to shut down fast (10.04) then i updated it...now it takes forever to shut the machien down, reminds me of friggin windows |
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| 16:04.36 | traeak | i much prefer the control i hvae with arch big time |
| 16:04.52 | traeak | gentoo killt itself with some bad engineering decisions |
| 16:14.13 | ManoftheSea | control? I mean, as long as nothing else is going on, what control do you have with arch? Filesystems? services? |
| 16:29.54 | traeak | how many different distros do yo have experience with? |
| 16:33.49 | ManoftheSea | Lucid, Debian, a little CentOS (Enough to relize it's different) |
| 16:34.30 | ManoftheSea | And it was CentOS that was irritating me about not having packages. |
| 16:34.45 | ManoftheSea | oh, LFS. |
| 16:34.46 | traeak | yeah centos fail |
| 16:41.19 | traeak | ran slack originally with the stack of floppies, redhat/mandrake for a bit, those would junk up /usr/local/ due to missing packages. customer runs opensuse but i haven't screwed with that. ran gentoo for a bit, tried debian, found the configuration and defaults very frustrating, switching branches broke systems, then settled on arch. I find arch to be extremely straightforward and simple for configuration and management |
| 17:29.10 | ManoftheSea | well, that's cool then. I haven't tried Arch yet. |
| 17:29.24 | ManoftheSea | I'm eyeing Trisquel for a spare netbook... |
| 17:37.39 | traeak | there's a cheap a10 based netbook :-p |
| 17:38.25 | ManoftheSea | is it GPL-respecting? |
| 17:43.48 | traeak | it's running android 4.0 so it woudl require the same hacking the mele does |
| 17:44.04 | traeak | thankfully it has 1GB ram instead 512 the mele has |
| 17:53.33 | ManoftheSea | bleh, android netbooks. |
| 17:53.56 | ManoftheSea | My handheld computer runs maemo. |
| 17:54.00 | traeak | load linux on top of it :-p |
| 17:54.19 | traeak | my handheld computer *ran* maemo until the lame assed usb port wouldn't charge anyone |
| 17:54.21 | traeak | anyjmore |
| 17:54.28 | ManoftheSea | Yeah, the transformer prime was alluring for a while. |
| 17:54.36 | traeak | i won't touch nokia shit anymore....their quality has certainly gone downhill |
| 17:54.51 | ManoftheSea | But, Windows Phone 7! |
| 17:55.28 | traeak | right now i an using an older nokia flip phone...damn thing doesn't even have an alarm application on it |
| 17:55.37 | traeak | not sure what kind of phone i should get now |
| 17:59.07 | CIA-158 | rhombus-tech: Reza master * r425c093a26d2 /allwinner_a10/orders/nero.mdwn: |
| 18:41.03 | traeak | slime4bag |
| 18:48.08 | traeak | heh ugh |
| 18:50.56 | hno | slime in the channel? |
| 18:57.05 | ManoftheSea | Get an EOMA68 card-phone |
| 18:57.15 | ManoftheSea | a phone shaped holder for your EOMA68 |
| 19:01.44 | hno | Need a radio modem also.. |
| 19:02.12 | hno | and some more pieces. |
| 19:05.26 | ManoftheSea | right, right... |
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| 19:47.13 | arokux_h | hi guys. can I input text using remote in Mele? |
| 19:48.28 | hno | no idea. |
| 19:48.40 | hno | only used the power button so far. |
| 19:51.52 | arokux_h | I've jut found the possibility: long press on "three horizontal lines"-button and use mouse mode. |
| 20:40.35 | A0Sheds | anyone recall if the freescale imx53 had uboot or other open bootloader support? |
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| 20:55.28 | hno | A0Sheds, a google says that the i.MX53 quick start board comes with u-boot on an SD-card. |
| 21:42.24 | ManoftheSea | hey, I was just reading the list: Talking about Mali driver and GPL... |
| 21:42.32 | ManoftheSea | "Technically okay under GPL" |
| 21:43.09 | ManoftheSea | but do we want to be technically okay? |
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| 21:50.13 | traeak | lima driver is the future |
| 21:51.04 | mnemoc | how long have the open source nvidia and ati drivers been developed? |
| 21:52.45 | ManoftheSea | no idea. |
| 22:11.03 | traeak | i'd hazard a guess that the mali part is dramatically simpler than the beasts from ati and nvidia |
| 22:11.17 | traeak | i seriously doubt the mali is over a billion transistors |
| 22:11.51 | traeak | and ati and nvidia excel at one thing: super power hungry space heaters |
| 22:12.19 | traeak | the tegra2/3 both suck to the extent that they are still based on space heater design |
| 22:19.16 | ManoftheSea | that needs to be about 20 percent cooler |
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