| 00:06.02 | Turl | furan: CONFIG_MALI option generates the ump module too |
| 00:06.46 | furan | I see. I set it to 'y' |
| 00:06.52 | lundman | what did I miss |
| 00:07.11 | furan | me failing at bringup :) |
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| 00:07.53 | djdonkey | Turl and ZaEarl, we have loaded the official image from manufacturer on both tablets now, and we must confess, the gt801 is not identified on one of them, which just so happens to be the one we have been developing with! So we are about to load our android image onto the tablet with working gt801 to eliminate the possibility of a HW fault |
| 00:08.07 | djdonkey | I'll be in touch but it will take time, because have to take kids to school :( |
| 00:08.12 | djdonkey | damn life chores... |
| 00:09.04 | ZaEarl | yeah, never trust that two devices are identical until you verify it. |
| 00:09.14 | djdonkey | ZaEarl and Turl, I want to thank you for your support, i'm very impressed with your help... |
| 00:09.32 | djdonkey | might have to join the newsgroup |
| 00:12.22 | Turl | you're welcome :) |
| 00:13.43 | furan | I need to get recovery working on here. the way I flash roms right now is so evil. I've been just dd'ing recovery to nandc, booting from it, and then flashing from there |
| 00:14.29 | WarheadsSE | Anyone have an idea why when I set screen0 to HDMI, 1080i I get a ~ 800/600 screen to the left side of my TV ? |
| 00:15.02 | WarheadsSE | shrug |
| 00:17.37 | Turl | hno: do you have any kind of 'roadmap' regarding FEL? |
| 00:22.34 | furan | well that's interesting |
| 00:22.37 | furan | I got touch to work |
| 00:22.43 | furan | I have to use two fingers at the same time |
| 00:22.54 | furan | and it performs as one |
| 00:23.21 | Turl | you're probably missing the screen calibration file then |
| 00:23.49 | furan | is that required for capacitive? |
| 00:24.28 | Turl | yeah |
| 00:24.30 | Turl | it's a .cal file |
| 00:24.35 | furan | where does it live? |
| 00:25.11 | Turl | system/usr/idc/ |
| 00:25.14 | Turl | sorry, .idc, not .cal |
| 00:25.20 | furan | hm ok |
| 00:25.36 | Turl | https://github.com/allwinner-dev-team/android_device_allwinner_zatab/blob/ics/config/Goodix-TS-board-3.idc this is mine for example |
| 00:27.12 | furan | how is the file referred to? or does the driver know the filename |
| 00:31.24 | Turl | it's named after the input device, look at logcat and you'll see it |
| 00:31.56 | furan | ok |
| 00:52.29 | furan | that fixed it :) |
| 00:52.32 | furan | I am up and running |
| 01:02.05 | furan | where do buttons live? |
| 01:02.13 | furan | I need to unmap vol+/- |
| 01:02.35 | furan | it's hooked to an analog stick that is really noisy and in its rest position keeps sending 'down' |
| 01:02.42 | furan | (cheap) |
| 01:02.50 | furan | they fix in the stock rom by filtering it through a driver |
| 01:05.58 | WarheadsSE | lol |
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| 01:09.55 | rz2k | EMS suddenly got greedy http://imgur.com/etPki |
| 01:11.42 | lundman | heh |
| 01:12.56 | DonkeyHotei | that's hilarious. which region? |
| 01:13.08 | lundman | russia! |
| 01:13.18 | DonkeyHotei | i'm guessing you'll be choosing china post |
| 01:13.38 | DonkeyHotei | lundman: that's a country, not a region of a country |
| 01:13.42 | lundman | its been 20 days and my package is about to be delivered |
| 01:13.46 | lundman | not sure china post is worth it :) |
| 01:13.56 | lundman | donkey: its a way of life |
| 01:14.10 | DonkeyHotei | was born in the USSR |
| 01:14.41 | lundman | i should pop over to russia, vladivostok is a stone throw away.. not sure what to do though |
| 01:15.43 | furan | looks like sun4i_keyboard |
| 01:17.14 | Turl | rz2k: even DHLing to my country is cheaper heh :) |
| 01:17.46 | lundman | the wife did her uni degree in russian, so she is always keen to go |
| 01:18.45 | rz2k | weird thing is, you cant DHL or UPS anything to Russia now |
| 01:19.03 | DonkeyHotei | DHL won't do it? |
| 01:19.06 | DonkeyHotei | odd |
| 01:19.11 | rz2k | because DHL and UPS dont accept any parcels for non-companies |
| 01:19.14 | lundman | $500us tokyo to Vladivostok, not too shabby |
| 01:19.26 | rz2k | they claim it like theres something with our customs |
| 01:19.37 | DonkeyHotei | lundman: is that round trip? |
| 01:19.41 | lundman | yep |
| 01:19.55 | lundman | probably a boat cruise option too, i wonder |
| 01:20.21 | rz2k | probably it is, but companies like Amazon just place some random stuff in company field when printing UPS label and it goes ok |
| 01:20.32 | lundman | heh also $500 |
| 01:20.43 | Turl | rz2k: here DHL, UPS, Fedex & the like work under a different customs system |
| 01:20.44 | lundman | but 2 nights, meals included |
| 01:21.01 | Turl | there's the 'couriers' system and the mail system |
| 01:21.11 | Turl | mail is EMS & stuff like USPS or china post |
| 01:21.13 | lundman | "Don't count on many amenities, though; a ship might show a swimming pool on the deck plan, for example, but you'll find it drained to store motorcycles once you're aboard. " |
| 01:21.25 | rz2k | recently I got package from Digi-Key, they didnt want to send it till I posted my workplace as company name. |
| 01:23.45 | rz2k | lundman: I cant really recommend something in Vladivostok, but I'm sure you will find someone who can. I'm in Moscow, which is in famous 7 days of train from Vladivostok. |
| 01:24.27 | rz2k | I have a friend in Vladivostok tho, he works at some chinese distributor, goes to China on bus every week |
| 01:27.52 | steev | Turl: external_cedarx has a jb branch? how did you pull that off? |
| 01:29.08 | lundman | yeah, its more than it really close, and only 1.5hr flight. the train journey is indeed famous and would be tempting |
| 01:29.18 | lundman | kids love trains and we've done quite a number of sleepers now |
| 01:30.16 | Turl | steev: I did a jb branch to try to get it building again |
| 01:30.28 | Turl | and fixed the trivial stuff |
| 01:30.29 | Turl | but it doesn't build still |
| 01:31.51 | steev | ah |
| 01:34.09 | lundman | flying to moscow is $600 |
| 01:34.13 | steev | ugh |
| 01:34.21 | steev | i really wanna slap the android peeps around a bit |
| 01:34.32 | steev | linux-x86 != x86_64 (and wtf, why is there a linux-x86_64 if you're dumping x86_64 binaries in linux-x86) |
| 01:34.38 | lundman | 9 hours flight, so no mini-breaks |
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| 01:57.32 | furan | is thre any way to just follow the kprint log |
| 01:57.37 | furan | instead of running dmesg over and ver |
| 01:58.31 | WarheadsSE | ok.. all those with Mele stuff |
| 01:58.45 | WarheadsSE | anyone seen random as *** stoppings during boot? |
| 01:58.54 | WarheadsSE | . bluetooth . _dead |
| 01:59.00 | WarheadsSE | .... RTC _dead |
| 01:59.53 | DonkeyHotei | i have not seen that so far, but i haven't paid that much attention to it |
| 02:00.09 | WarheadsSE | Oh, you'd know. boot stops before the rootfs |
| 02:04.14 | WarheadsSE | hmm |
| 02:04.24 | WarheadsSE | seems to have been *very* pissy extra mmc endabled. |
| 02:05.50 | WarheadsSE | nvm.. |
| 02:05.53 | WarheadsSE | still doing it. |
| 02:19.25 | steev | nexus is here |
| 02:19.32 | steev | guess it be time to take apart the ly-f1 |
| 02:19.52 | steev | specing will be happy about that |
| 02:30.01 | furan | ok I'm a little surprised there is no header containing defines and macros for hardware registers |
| 02:30.06 | furan | everything hardcodes register addresses |
| 02:30.17 | furan | baby jesus crying etc |
| 02:34.29 | lundman | pretty much what going through the nic driver was like |
| 02:34.45 | lundman | vbase+0x78 = 4|8<<2 |
| 02:34.48 | lundman | I mean, what? |
| 02:35.25 | lundman | also, who makes bits, or, then shift up? very odd |
| 02:42.41 | furan | nevermind I found the header |
| 02:42.52 | furan | so this driver I am reversing accesses an address between 2 known register values |
| 02:42.59 | furan | 0xf1c20000 |
| 02:43.03 | furan | sorry |
| 02:43.07 | furan | 0xf1c22000 |
| 02:43.21 | furan | that's between ir1_base and iis_base |
| 02:44.04 | furan | I guess it's square inside the ir1 range |
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| 03:30.17 | furan | is there anything special at 0x02c00000? |
| 03:30.41 | furan | this driver derefs 0x2c00049, and it isn't a known address in the module |
| 03:30.51 | furan | (it's just a tiny .ko) |
| 04:10.53 | Turl | furan: maybe http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/A10_register_guide/ ? |
| 04:29.18 | furan | yeah I've been hunting there |
| 04:29.19 | furan | thanks |
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| 07:42.29 | specing | steev: It would be cool if you did all the Gentoo work for me, too |
| 07:42.36 | specing | waits for a stage4 |
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| 08:19.19 | markvandenborre | is looking for the easiest way to get a kernel somewhere with usb hid support |
| 08:19.47 | markvandenborre | and if I can make another wish... debian packaged :) |
| 08:20.14 | markvandenborre | seriously, I'm prepared to build the thing myself obviously |
| 08:20.38 | markvandenborre | but if anything is floating around that allows me to skip that step |
| 08:24.07 | markvandenborre | I'm running lkcl's minimal debian image right now with the provided 3.0.8+ armhf kernel |
| 08:24.35 | markvandenborre | I guess there's been a lot of progress since april.... |
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| 08:28.57 | rm | I haven't found a good usable .deb-packaged kernel for GUI usage |
| 08:29.18 | rm | I have to build my own (likely 3.4), but too lazy to do that for now |
| 08:32.28 | lundman | aborre |
| 08:32.38 | markvandenborre | lundman: aborre? |
| 08:33.55 | lundman | your name reminded me of aborre :) |
| 08:34.11 | markvandenborre | ah, heh, sorry, not me |
| 08:34.53 | lundman | swedish name for the fish "perch" |
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| 08:35.19 | lundman | well, two b's, anyhoo |
| 08:35.29 | lundman | so whats happening now |
| 08:36.38 | markvandenborre | how feasible is compiling a kernel on the thing itself performance wise? |
| 08:37.08 | markvandenborre | how much time can I expect it to take? |
| 08:37.23 | markvandenborre | (for something rahter minimal) |
| 08:40.44 | rm | entirely possible |
| 08:40.54 | rm | but you should not compile on the SD card |
| 08:41.08 | rm | I mount a CIFS share and compile there |
| 08:41.19 | rm | or you could use an HDD |
| 08:41.24 | lundman | i compiled my mele kernels on the cubox |
| 08:42.22 | lundman | takes about an hour for a full kernel |
| 08:42.45 | lundman | used ssd on sata.. at first it was on usb stick, but that was painful |
| 08:44.18 | markvandenborre | hm, thx for the hint |
| 08:44.32 | markvandenborre | will have to go out and get a sata drive then |
| 08:45.13 | lundman | nfs mount something would work too |
| 08:45.34 | lundman | smb should not really be considered, no caching and abhorrent |
| 08:45.54 | rm | I couldn't get NFS to work on a 3.0.8 kernel |
| 08:46.00 | rm | androidized (ugh) |
| 08:46.04 | markvandenborre | right.... |
| 08:46.18 | lundman | I will confirm tomorrow then, its a must! |
| 08:46.18 | rm | despite adding NFS users to aid_inet and whatnot |
| 08:46.21 | markvandenborre | and what source should I be compiling from, preferably? |
| 08:46.32 | lundman | the source for which you want a kernel? |
| 08:46.40 | lundman | from |
| 08:46.46 | markvandenborre | https://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner/wiki looks a little confusing |
| 08:47.03 | lundman | ok, what do you want to get? |
| 08:47.36 | markvandenborre | wired networking, usb hid device support, armhf obvously; that's mostly it |
| 08:47.50 | lundman | to boot linux, or android, on your a10? |
| 08:48.00 | markvandenborre | I have debian running right now |
| 08:48.03 | rm | git clone https://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner/ . && git checkout v3.4.4 |
| 08:48.05 | rm | something like that |
| 08:48.20 | markvandenborre | thx rm |
| 08:48.24 | lundman | use sun4i_defconfig for linux (_crane_ for android) |
| 08:48.35 | rm | mh, there was a branch |
| 08:50.23 | rm | I don't know if you still need to switch to a branch |
| 08:50.33 | rm | git is annoying, I hate it |
| 08:50.36 | rm | ask mnemoc |
| 08:51.18 | markvandenborre | it's nice to see so much activity round here, pity it's still a bit confusing to navigate without your help |
| 08:51.21 | markvandenborre | thx all |
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| 08:59.18 | mnemoc | it's linux-sunxi-3.4 (not wip/) |
| 08:59.46 | mnemoc | v3.4.4 tag is mainline's |
| 09:02.33 | mnemoc | but it's only recommended if you want to do kernel development, 3.4 is not yet ready for been "just used" |
| 09:02.55 | mnemoc | actually it's not even recommended |
| 09:02.58 | mnemoc | for that |
| 09:05.58 | markvandenborre | ok, so which branch do I use? |
| 09:06.32 | markvandenborre | linux-3.3-sun4i? lichee-3.0.8-sun4i? |
| 09:07.39 | mnemoc | the default |
| 09:07.44 | mnemoc | just clone and use |
| 09:08.20 | markvandenborre | so just git clone https://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner.git you mean? |
| 09:08.23 | markvandenborre | ok |
| 09:08.26 | mnemoc | yes |
| 09:08.36 | mnemoc | it's also the first entry in https://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner/wiki with a bold preferred on it |
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| 09:09.12 | markvandenborre | believe it or not, I read that |
| 09:09.24 | mnemoc | :) |
| 09:09.34 | markvandenborre | it was just the -android that confused me |
| 09:09.48 | mnemoc | the kernel is androidized |
| 09:09.50 | markvandenborre | thinking that that was more a kind of anroidish kernel |
| 09:10.23 | mnemoc | the source tree is androidized, same for 3.4 |
| 09:10.23 | markvandenborre | I thought we had a cleanish vanilla linux kernel running underneath our Debian |
| 09:10.41 | markvandenborre | (I'm a classical guitarist by trade, so not really an android expert) |
| 09:11.08 | markvandenborre | thx for the help |
| 09:11.19 | mnemoc | picking sun4i_defconfig you shouldn't notice the android bits |
| 09:11.43 | markvandenborre | perfect |
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| 09:12.32 | mnemoc | because of that common confusion the 3.4 branch doesn't say "android" even when it is androidized too |
| 09:12.49 | markvandenborre | good to know |
| 09:15.54 | NZBBoSS | anyone here have the Mele A1/2000 ? |
| 09:16.05 | mnemoc | many people |
| 09:16.38 | NZBBoSS | just wondering if anyone has managed to get a bluetooth dongle / gamepad connected tot he unit? |
| 09:17.00 | mnemoc | tried the host ports on the back? |
| 09:17.11 | mnemoc | the host port on the side doesn't like dongles |
| 09:17.41 | NZBBoSS | im still waiting for mine to arrive, any day now! purchased a couple as i like the openess of them |
| 09:17.49 | lundman | i didnt see any diff with which usb port |
| 09:17.55 | lundman | but not tried bluetoth |
| 09:18.14 | mnemoc | the black cover doesn't let short dongles connect properly |
| 09:18.21 | lundman | ah |
| 09:18.45 | mnemoc | but BT doesn't care about been on the back |
| 09:18.46 | NZBBoSS | but just thinking ahead, if they are capable of this, as I would like to hopefully modify the likes of mame4droid to turn it into a mini console |
| 09:19.29 | markvandenborre | NZBBoSS: they seem to be awesome little devices |
| 09:19.52 | markvandenborre | just make sure to order a usbttl thingie with it |
| 09:19.55 | NZBBoSS | yeah, if they had bluetooth built in they would be the icing on the cake :P |
| 09:20.10 | markvandenborre | it might save you a lot of trouble for the $3 it costs you |
| 09:20.42 | NZBBoSS | Actually I was just looking where I can order one from, anyone know if there is a UK place for them? |
| 09:20.53 | NZBBoSS | the usbttl thing |
| 09:21.02 | markvandenborre | do it directly from China, in the same package |
| 09:21.26 | NZBBoSS | I already ordered 5 of the boxes (from a different seller) |
| 09:22.12 | mnemoc | any random usb/ttl dongle you buy will come with 0.1" jumper wires. for the mele you'll need 2mm ones, so better it's easier if you buy it from Tom together with the mele |
| 09:22.34 | mnemoc | s/better // |
| 09:22.36 | markvandenborre | he probably hasn't shipped it yet (he's rather slow at htat) |
| 09:22.47 | markvandenborre | s/htat/that |
| 09:22.58 | mnemoc | markvandenborre: trailing / |
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| 09:23.10 | markvandenborre | s/htat.that/ :) |
| 09:23.19 | markvandenborre | awww, another typo |
| 09:24.03 | markvandenborre | anyway, you might still be able to get your seller (T C?) to include the thing |
| 09:24.22 | mnemoc | he bought them from a different seller |
| 09:24.27 | NZBBoSS | ill have a quick look, if not ill order from toms ali page and just wait ;) |
| 09:24.45 | mnemoc | Tom posts on sundays only |
| 09:25.12 | NZBBoSS | assume i can still modify the unit to a degree without ot |
| 09:25.14 | NZBBoSS | it* |
| 09:25.35 | mnemoc | you can buy 2.54-2.00 wire jumpers on ebay too... but they are pretty expensive |
| 09:25.59 | mnemoc | NZBBoSS: sure, unless you bought an A100, which needs you to solder the sata connector |
| 09:26.56 | NZBBoSS | nah bought the a2000 |
| 09:27.02 | NZBBoSS | with F10 air mouse |
| 09:27.30 | markvandenborre | mnemoc: you have an a100? |
| 09:28.00 | mnemoc | nope, a1k and a2k |
| 09:28.28 | markvandenborre | hm, k |
| 09:28.38 | markvandenborre | I'll have to ask hipboi__ then |
| 09:28.48 | markvandenborre | about the number of usb ports on this thing |
| 09:29.03 | markvandenborre | I need something running debian with at least 3... |
| 09:29.55 | NZBBoSS | any of you running ICS? as notcied that was not long released |
| 09:31.46 | mnemoc | markvandenborre: it has 3 normal host ports |
| 09:32.12 | mnemoc | http://www.ebay.com/itm/130730286439 <--- wire jumpers for mele's uart |
| 09:32.51 | mnemoc | NZBBoSS: ICS on one, ubuntu on the other |
| 09:37.06 | NZBBoSS | mnemoc, seems that no fucker in the UK sells them lol - slow-boat it is! |
| 09:37.12 | mnemoc | markvandenborre: the only difference between A100's pcb and a1k/a2k is the sata connector |
| 09:37.41 | mnemoc | NZBBoSS: patience is a virtue ;-) |
| 09:37.59 | lundman | huh flymouse works surprisingly well |
| 09:38.43 | NZBBoSS | you guys been following the OUYA? |
| 09:38.56 | lundman | sure |
| 09:39.08 | specing | you mean the "ewww nvidia-- yuck" thingie? |
| 09:39.15 | NZBBoSS | yeah lol |
| 09:39.19 | specing | no. |
| 09:39.27 | lundman | or the vapour with another console controller |
| 09:39.29 | mnemoc | the armdevices guy decided it was scam :p |
| 09:39.47 | specing | pro scam |
| 09:39.47 | lundman | no, high chance of being vapourware |
| 09:40.34 | mnemoc | after his visits to shenzehn he find absurd the amounts of money they claim to need to make the device |
| 09:41.03 | NZBBoSS | I pledged $150 so will see If i actually get a console next year, however will 99% if kickstart campaigns they usually dont come to light! |
| 09:41.29 | NZBBoSS | with* |
| 09:42.19 | mnemoc | https://plus.google.com/106075758531242552855/posts/disST75MTaq |
| 09:42.33 | specing | NZBBoSS: shame, you could have bought a quad core exynos and save $20 |
| 09:46.40 | lundman | not proved itself either |
| 09:46.59 | RaYmAn | the sad thing about ouya, is that in all likelyhood, there'll be Cortex A15 devices out at that time :P |
| 09:47.50 | mnemoc | RaYmAn: JB for Adam? :( |
| 09:48.02 | RaYmAn | mnemoc: mrdeadlocked is working on it, kinda :P |
| 09:48.10 | mnemoc | narf |
| 09:48.19 | mnemoc | :) |
| 09:48.31 | hno | furan, 1c22000 is not IR1. No idea what's there. What driver is it you are looking at again? |
| 09:48.33 | RaYmAn | It's not hard |
| 09:48.41 | RaYmAn | It just annoys me to hell with those last issues in the kernel |
| 09:48.41 | NZBBoSS | I was actually looking for a board that already has a quad core processor, the needed connections and built-in bluetooth |
| 09:48.51 | NZBBoSS | but could not find one that already had bluetooth in. |
| 09:49.13 | RaYmAn | mnemoc: have you ever noticed a high-pitch squeak coming from the screen (I think) on >= .36 kernels? |
| 09:49.27 | mnemoc | RaYmAn: yes |
| 09:49.57 | RaYmAn | damn :P Was hoping it was just me ;) |
| 09:50.01 | mnemoc | when powering up to read during the night |
| 09:50.18 | RaYmAn | those kind of issues kind of annoy me |
| 09:50.24 | mnemoc | initially I thought it was a power brick |
| 09:50.36 | mnemoc | but no, it's my beloved adam |
| 09:50.40 | RaYmAn | in particular, because I have nfi why it happens (well, clearly it's driving the LCD "wrong" in some way) |
| 09:52.01 | hno | RaYmAn, more likely from the PWM that drives the backlight. |
| 09:52.17 | mnemoc | I can live with it, but bothers me most is that everything halts when "play" decides to update something |
| 09:52.34 | mnemoc | hi hno |
| 09:52.38 | hno | hi hi |
| 09:53.09 | RaYmAn | hno: hm, quite possible, but how the heck does one debug such an issue? :P |
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| 09:53.17 | hno | heavy reainfall, thunder an ligning here today. Hopefully network stays up, |
| 09:53.58 | hno | RaYmAn, a good start is to isolate if it's the backlight or the LCD. Physically disconnecting one or the other is one way, blocking in software another. |
| 09:54.19 | RaYmAn | hm |
| 09:54.44 | hno | an osciloscope also helps when debugging analog hardware. |
| 10:04.01 | lundman | ok mele flymouse works very well with xbmc |
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| 10:07.09 | hno | sparks flying out from the DSL modem but seems to have surived after a reboot. |
| 10:08.56 | mnemoc | ouch |
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| 10:17.06 | mnemoc | Mali<1>: Failed to request memory region Mali Sdram (0x5C000000 - 0x5FFFFFFF) |
| 10:17.09 | mnemoc | aha! |
| 10:17.44 | mnemoc | why the f* don't they say that when DEBUG is not defined??! |
| 10:26.14 | hno | mnemoc, because they are designing for an embedded market where only a handful people integrate stuff the rest just runs what is already proven without caring what they run? |
| 10:27.37 | mnemoc | :) |
| 10:28.21 | lundman | cucumber! |
| 10:31.31 | hno | Ugh.. stallman now also dislikes CPU microcode. http://bytesmedia.co.uk/2012/07/17/richard-stallman-uefi/ |
| 10:32.03 | rm | linux-libre removed microcode loading since forever |
| 10:32.15 | rm | nothing to ugh at, just being consistent |
| 10:39.14 | mnemoc | as long as proprietary code doesn't obstacle the userspace freedom, I don't care |
| 10:40.26 | mnemoc | i.e. closed firmware and microcode = ok, closed libraries = bad |
| 10:41.10 | mnemoc | (firmware as in /lib/firmware/) |
| 10:42.46 | hno | perhaps he is consistent, but I still don't agree with it. Loadable microcode is there to work around hardware bugs making the hardware comply with it's own specifications. |
| 10:46.17 | rm | I am not so convinced on the "firmware=bad" position |
| 10:46.51 | rm | and that if the same firmware is burned into a small ROM on the device instead, it's ok |
| 10:46.54 | hno | I also accept FPGA firmware as hardware. And have the view that loadable firmware is much more free than ROM:ed firmware. With loadable firmware there is always the option to liberate the hardware, such as is done in Rockbox for example. |
| 10:54.45 | markvandenborre | mnemoc: good to know about the 3 usb ports on the a100, thx |
| 10:55.03 | mnemoc | markvandenborre: because it's the exact same PCB |
| 10:55.05 | markvandenborre | right, off to grab my usb hdd now |
| 10:55.37 | mnemoc | markvandenborre: the only difference with a1k/a2k is taht the sata connector is not soldered |
| 10:55.47 | markvandenborre | perfect for my purpose |
| 10:55.49 | hno | ManoftheSea, there should be 3+2 USB ports on a100 (3 external, 2 internal) |
| 10:56.26 | markvandenborre | err, like, more on the a100 than on the a1k/2k? |
| 10:56.33 | mnemoc | hno: any idea how to reserve the 64M for mali without making the in-driver request_mem_region() fail? |
| 10:56.59 | hno | mnemoc, the same reservation as done for ve did not work? |
| 10:57.36 | mnemoc | hno: nope, the mali driver requests the region too... and fails, and panics |
| 10:59.13 | mnemoc | i guess I can just ignore it and pray no one gets it assigned before the mali driver does... but sounds risky |
| 10:59.57 | RaYmAn | is the mali driver customized for allwinner? |
| 11:00.12 | RaYmAn | If so, wouldn't it be possible to just pass it the memory through e.g. platform device? |
| 11:00.24 | RaYmAn | So it doesn't have to request anything, it just gets it, ready for ioremap? |
| 11:00.25 | hno | that would be best indeed. |
| 11:00.57 | RaYmAn | that's how it's done on tegra at least |
| 11:03.08 | mnemoc | https://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner/blob/linux-sunxi-3.4/drivers/gpu/mali/mali/arch-ca8-virtex820-m400-1/config.h <-- this is how they define the resources |
| 11:04.05 | mnemoc | and https://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner/blob/linux-sunxi-3.4/drivers/gpu/mali/mali/platform/mali400-pmu/mali_platform.c the integration |
| 11:05.34 | rm | markvandenborre, I don't think A100 is attractive at its price |
| 11:07.02 | CIA-122 | rhombus-tech: Matthias master * r49eb9bb751ed /allwinner_a10/orders/Aell.mdwn: |
| 11:10.15 | hno | mnemoc, yes... mali is onviously not a well behaved Linux citizen. egrep -R 'request_mem_region|_mali_osk_mem_reqregion' gpu/ |
| 11:11.06 | hno | (the osk one is just a simple wrapper, same thing) |
| 11:12.32 | mnemoc | suggestions? |
| 11:12.59 | mnemoc | I'm trying to find how make it use platform_device resources, but getting really puzzled :| |
| 11:13.43 | mnemoc | http://www.igloocommunity.org/gitweb/?p=android/platform/vendor/st-ericsson/multimedia/linux/mali400ko.git;a=commitdiff;h=b6c511c474488fa4c39e1726c2d22eac41bab1cb |
| 11:13.44 | hno | mnemoc, making it plaform_device resources is not hard. The ugly part is fixing the driver to use the platform_device instead of hardcoded memory references. |
| 11:13.59 | mnemoc | yes, that's what I meant |
| 11:15.58 | mnemoc | but it seems the driver support it too.... maybe |
| 11:16.50 | hno | mnemoc, that patch only touches the drm dummy which don't do any memory reservation. |
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| 11:34.09 | hno | also notice how mali is the only one doing this in gpu/ |
| 11:36.36 | mnemoc | it's easy to understand why allwinner chose to cut the chunk directly out of the meminfo |
| 11:36.53 | hno | but might be a coincidence from mali being the only one having memory separate from the framebuffer? |
| 11:38.20 | mnemoc | but they have a reference to the fb memory in the resources struct too |
| 11:42.19 | mnemoc | http://dpaste.com/772138/plain solves the panic on load |
| 11:42.49 | mnemoc | Turl: ping! |
| 11:44.19 | mnemoc | anyone *using* mali in 3.0.36+? |
| 11:58.54 | lundman | hipboi: F10 arrived works well, any idea if I can make windows resume with it? |
| 12:02.29 | xenoxaos | i know WarheadsSE was working on it |
| 12:11.33 | mnemoc | WarheadsSE: hi, are you using mali on 3.0.36+? can you help me testing a patch? |
| 12:22.11 | mnemoc | uhm, no. won't work |
| 12:27.19 | xenoxaos | unfortuantely, WarheadsSE's mali box is at home, and he should be at work around now |
| 12:27.59 | mnemoc | no problem. the patch was buggy anyway |
| 12:28.12 | mnemoc | need to keep trying to understand the resource allocation of this driver |
| 12:28.45 | xenoxaos | i just got an A100 over to him last weekend |
| 12:31.07 | mnemoc | Turl, WarheadsSE: nevermind, got overexcited without reason |
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| 12:40.22 | zoobab_ | hi |
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| 13:17.25 | markvandenborre | hi zoobab! |
| 13:21.11 | WarheadsSE | mnemoc: Yes |
| 13:21.54 | WarheadsSE | May not be using it 100%, but i've gotten X11 up on it, hdmi & vga, w/ mesa-demos & alsa output via hdmi |
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| 13:35.16 | mnemoc | WarheadsSE: great. then I'll bother you if I manage to find a way to let the mali driver coexist with the wip/3.0/mem branch |
| 13:37.51 | WarheadsSE | K |
| 13:38.05 | WarheadsSE | Of course, without cedar, video SUCKS |
| 13:42.24 | markvandenborre | can I do a menuconfig in the allwinner git checkout without overwriting anything important? |
| 13:42.58 | markvandenborre | (need to make sure I have the usbhid and related modules compiled or compiled in...) |
| 13:42.59 | mnemoc | by default nothing bad will happen |
| 13:43.21 | WarheadsSE | ^ |
| 13:43.40 | WarheadsSE | make sun4i_defconfig, then make menuconfig |
| 13:43.44 | WarheadsSE | all good :) |
| 13:44.24 | markvandenborre | where should I have read this before asking here? |
| 13:44.44 | WarheadsSE | Thats just how you make a kernel .. |
| 13:44.53 | markvandenborre | ah http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/kernel_compile/ |
| 13:46.03 | markvandenborre | the last time I compiled a kernel (except an x86 kernel build in a debian source package) was probably in 2006 or so |
| 13:46.22 | markvandenborre | and I can't remember devconfig from there ... |
| 13:46.28 | WarheadsSE | that much hasnt really changed in terms of the process |
| 13:46.56 | WarheadsSE | If you have no existing config, then make ARCH_defconfig, make menuconfig |
| 13:47.11 | WarheadsSE | if you Do have an existing config cp my.config .config, make menuconfig |
| 13:48.22 | mnemoc | don't forget to add ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=whatever- to those |
| 13:48.35 | mnemoc | unless you are actually building on the device |
| 13:49.01 | WarheadsSE | yeah, thats important too |
| 13:49.41 | WarheadsSE | as well as CFLAGS for armv7-a, hard float, vfpv3-d16, neon blah |
| 13:49.56 | WarheadsSE | some of those might default in from the defconfig though. |
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| 13:51.42 | markvandenborre | mnemoc: building on the device |
| 13:52.03 | markvandenborre | I guess the CFLAGS stuff is set correctly already in the devconfig... |
| 13:52.25 | markvandenborre | s/guess/hope/ |
| 13:53.07 | mnemoc | the default cflags in linaro's toolchain work fine for me |
| 13:54.10 | markvandenborre | oh well, building on a mele a2000 with armhf kernel... |
| 13:54.23 | mnemoc | steev is a gentoo boy, he probably adds a couple dozen extra flags :) |
| 13:56.39 | WarheadsSE | lol |
| 13:56.50 | WarheadsSE | in arch we're building with these: |
| 13:57.15 | WarheadsSE | -march=armv7-a -meabi=hard -mvfp=vfpv3-d16 |
| 13:57.24 | WarheadsSE | haven't actually done the neon flags.. |
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| 14:42.38 | WarheadsSE | .buf2 |
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| 15:19.57 | traeak | ahh 3.4.5 now |
| 15:23.47 | mnemoc | 3.0.37 too |
| 15:24.33 | mnemoc | but unless there is a good reason to upgrade I prefer to hold it until the mali integration is fixed |
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| 15:35.29 | hackandfab | HELP!, I think I messed up and now the meleA2000 starts but it gets stuck at BOOT1 |
| 15:37.03 | markvandenborre | can I use the generic uboot-mkimage when building the a10 kernel? |
| 15:37.26 | markvandenborre | (the generic one from debian, that is, and the generic u-boot-tools? |
| 15:37.56 | mnemoc | markvandenborre: `make uImage` uses the generic uboot-mkimage... |
| 15:38.00 | mnemoc | nothing fancy there |
| 15:38.18 | markvandenborre | I guessed so, but it's always nice to know... thank you |
| 15:39.04 | mnemoc | hackandfab: you can always reflash it with an stock phoenixcard SD |
| 15:39.24 | mnemoc | hackandfab: wait until the leds stop blinking |
| 15:40.07 | mnemoc | A10 devices are unbrickable |
| 15:40.28 | markvandenborre | about the only thing I knew about arm boot before starting to fiddle with this was that it almost always uses uboot, and that uboot is often mutilated in several ways depending on the device in question... |
| 15:41.49 | markvandenborre | takes quite a bit of time when building on the device itself... |
| 15:41.53 | hackandfab | mnemoc, thx I'll try (I did a very stupid mistake. I thought rhombustech RESET pin was to reset the device and it seems is to RESET the flash :S) |
| 15:42.50 | mnemoc | hackandfab: I believe you are refering to the FEL pin... which sets your device into FEL (usb recovery) mode |
| 15:43.06 | mnemoc | there is no pin to blank the flash |
| 15:43.15 | hackandfab | no, not the FEL pin, another pin more at the right |
| 15:43.16 | markvandenborre | is there a straightforward way to have debian boot from the nand flash? |
| 15:43.40 | hackandfab | at the middle of the 3 circles |
| 15:44.04 | mnemoc | markvandenborre: the nanda has a capable uboot, just abuse that one |
| 15:44.57 | mnemoc | hackandfab: that powercycles the mele |
| 15:45.05 | markvandenborre | is still reading up on uboot |
| 15:45.33 | hackandfab | thats what I thought but now boot gets stuck at boot1 (I can read boot text from the UART) |
| 15:45.52 | mnemoc | markvandenborre: but beware, the nand driver is AWFUL and it's performance sticks. you are far better working from SD |
| 15:46.10 | mnemoc | assuming a fast SD card obviusly |
| 15:46.49 | mnemoc | hackandfab: you may have corrupted the vfat partition |
| 15:47.56 | hackandfab | mnemoc, using phoenixcard SD would fix the problem? |
| 15:48.56 | traeak | crap...what video recording application for linux? |
| 15:50.13 | markvandenborre | oh, thx for the hint |
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| 16:01.58 | mnemoc | hackandfab: it will reformat/rewrite the whole nand.... including the corrupted stuff |
| 16:02.21 | markvandenborre | hm, so I've recompiled my kernel and it discovers my usbhid device just fine now |
| 16:03.02 | markvandenborre | I wonder what else I'd still have to do before it actually does something with the keypresses |
| 16:03.24 | markvandenborre | that's not strictly debian-arm related at all, so I wonder where I should ask that question |
| 16:03.24 | hackandfab | ok thx, I'm configuring virtualbox since I've no installed windows here... |
| 16:03.50 | mnemoc | hackandfab: there are `dd` briendly images available |
| 16:03.58 | mnemoc | friendly* |
| 16:04.24 | mnemoc | markvandenborre: get X running |
| 16:04.49 | mnemoc | markvandenborre: there is no fbcon for sun4i |
| 16:06.12 | markvandenborre | ? |
| 16:06.33 | mnemoc | allwinner A10 = sun4i |
| 16:07.12 | mnemoc | fbcon = a terminal on your LCD/HDMI without running X |
| 16:07.18 | markvandenborre | I have this self built kernel running fine, and I don't need X really |
| 16:07.34 | mnemoc | markvandenborre: no X, no display output |
| 16:07.34 | markvandenborre | I'm just a little confused on where to go from here |
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| 16:08.16 | mnemoc | you can use it networked too... but no use for usbhid in that case |
| 16:08.33 | markvandenborre | hm, sorry, I think I'm starting to see part of my thinko here |
| 16:08.47 | markvandenborre | so what I want is to run a simple shell script in loop mode |
| 16:08.50 | markvandenborre | on the mele |
| 16:08.55 | markvandenborre | without anything else fancy |
| 16:09.01 | mnemoc | cron ? |
| 16:09.04 | markvandenborre | and the script should react to |
| 16:09.15 | markvandenborre | a single key usbhid device |
| 16:09.23 | mnemoc | ah, ok |
| 16:09.34 | markvandenborre | that runs out of the box on any other linux machine I've tried |
| 16:09.47 | markvandenborre | now with the minimal kernel that came from lkcl |
| 16:10.00 | markvandenborre | that usbhid device didn't show up in /dev |
| 16:10.05 | markvandenborre | so I recompiled a kernel |
| 16:10.33 | markvandenborre | now it shows up, but I'm not sure how to get any input from it |
| 16:10.35 | mnemoc | didn't know lkcl was making sun4i kernel images, or any A10 related image at all |
| 16:11.01 | markvandenborre | err... something from a long time ago, maybe I just credited someone wrongly |
| 16:11.18 | markvandenborre | sorry if that would have been the case |
| 16:12.09 | markvandenborre | mnemoc: this one, but with the uImage replaced: http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/a10_image/ |
| 16:12.34 | markvandenborre | so now I have this usbhid thingie recognised on the kernel level |
| 16:14.33 | markvandenborre | http://pastebin.com/PvXWkqQP is what it says when I connect it |
| 16:14.58 | mnemoc | without X you won't have anyone accessing that input device |
| 16:15.21 | markvandenborre | why does it show up on my tty1 on my ubuntu laptop then? |
| 16:15.27 | mnemoc | normally fbcon would, but we don't have fbcon (yet) |
| 16:15.30 | markvandenborre | because I have X running on 7? |
| 16:15.45 | mnemoc | because your tty1 is connected to a framebuffer console |
| 16:15.56 | mnemoc | aka fbcon |
| 16:15.59 | markvandenborre | ok, and we don't have that one yet |
| 16:16.08 | mnemoc | right |
| 16:16.16 | markvandenborre | so I need to have X running to get this thingie to work? |
| 16:16.18 | mnemoc | hopefully our arch friends will get that working |
| 16:16.27 | mnemoc | yes |
| 16:16.30 | markvandenborre | or is there a less bloated way? |
| 16:16.51 | markvandenborre | is ducking away and a little afraid... |
| 16:19.16 | markvandenborre | it's a 1 key thing. was hoping to have something simple and stable |
| 16:19.53 | mnemoc | you can read the scan codes out of the node, yes |
| 16:20.31 | mnemoc | but that is raw |
| 16:21.17 | markvandenborre | well if there's an easy way to do that from bash, I suppose that's the way I'll have to go then |
| 16:21.41 | traeak | hmm? |
| 16:21.45 | markvandenborre | if X isn't very stable yet and fb is not really there yet either... |
| 16:21.50 | traeak | X11 works just fine in framebuffer mode |
| 16:21.58 | mnemoc | he doesn't want X |
| 16:22.02 | traeak | ahh |
| 16:22.12 | traeak | overscan issues |
| 16:22.23 | markvandenborre | oh, if it's stable and doesn't take too much resources, I would be fine |
| 16:22.37 | mnemoc | he wants to read the dev/input/... from a shell script |
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| 16:23.06 | traeak | markvandenborre: you have arch running ? |
| 16:23.14 | markvandenborre | no, debian |
| 16:23.39 | mnemoc | markvandenborre: http://code.google.com/p/logkeys/ might help you |
| 16:24.35 | traeak | okay had to go read a bunch |
| 16:24.36 | traeak | still not exactly sure |
| 16:24.49 | traeak | basically /dev/input being mouse? |
| 16:25.53 | mnemoc | keyboard.. |
| 16:27.39 | markvandenborre | hm, seems as if I'm running into a wall here |
| 16:28.06 | markvandenborre | I guess I'll need something framebufferish |
| 16:28.25 | markvandenborre | which means another kernel compile |
| 16:29.25 | markvandenborre | mnemoc: thanks for the help, I'm really starting to understand some of the issues more thoroughly now |
| 16:29.30 | Turl | ohai all o/ |
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| 16:37.39 | steev | mnemoc: actually i don't particularly do so, at least, not most of the time, most upstreams (hopefully) have tested and know what works best these days |
| 16:39.40 | mnemoc | :) |
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| 17:22.03 | traeak | heh |
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| 17:25.04 | WarheadsSE | yeah, that wont work lundman :) |
| 17:25.17 | WarheadsSE | i didnt notice that onces, was like wtf with my sdcard |
| 17:30.21 | traeak | i think he was expecting the end user to figure out the lzma part |
| 17:32.44 | hackandfab | I do the dd and it gets stuck at "[SCAN_DBG] Nand Chip ID: 0x0x4a04682c 0x0xffffffff" The led no longer blinks |
| 17:34.45 | traeak | i used a different image, there's the newer ICS from mele |
| 17:35.06 | xenoxaos | and actually.....if i rememeber correctly 7z when it extracts....doesnt remove the trailing .lzma |
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| 17:36.03 | hackandfab | I removed the lzma |
| 17:36.17 | hackandfab | and extracted before |
| 17:37.53 | xenoxaos | removing something from a filename doesnt do anythign to the contents of the file....i was just saying that if you follow the instructions....the line in the wiki is right |
| 17:49.54 | traeak | xenoxaos: hehe, had customers do that before. some image format wouldjn't load so he renamed it to "tif" and it still didn't load |
| 17:50.02 | traeak | heh |
| 17:50.34 | xenoxaos | worked at geek squad... |
| 17:50.44 | xenoxaos | i know the expanse of derptitude |
| 17:51.18 | hackandfab | OEOEOEOE! it worked with another SD card |
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| 17:51.52 | mnemoc | the other card booted a lzma compressed image??? |
| 17:53.09 | mnemoc | (j/k) |
| 17:54.12 | traeak | this was someone doing image processing |
| 17:54.16 | traeak | trying to make an image mosaic |
| 17:54.17 | traeak | anyways |
| 17:54.38 | traeak | hackandfab: not surprised. when in doubt blame the sd card |
| 17:54.42 | traeak | have more than one around |
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| 18:18.54 | mnemoc | f* mali |
| 18:19.27 | madmalkav | amen |
| 18:19.38 | mnemoc | :) |
| 18:26.39 | CIA-122 | rhombus-tech: Matthias master * r522a3bbb1f29 /allwinner_a10/orders/Aell.mdwn: |
| 18:28.25 | xenoxaos | i think i could use a few more words than "f*" |
| 18:30.32 | Kraln | why hating on mali? |
| 18:31.03 | traeak | mnemoc: you prefer powervr? :-p |
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| 18:34.01 | mnemoc | traeak: no way :) |
| 18:34.19 | mnemoc | but hate his driver anyway |
| 18:36.39 | traeak | looks like no activity on lima now for a couple of weeks |
| 18:36.50 | traeak | either the finished it or the manpower disappeared |
| 18:37.04 | RaYmAn | or it's holiday :P |
| 18:37.06 | mnemoc | lima is userspace, I'm ranting against the kernel driver |
| 18:37.06 | traeak | okay more than a week |
| 18:37.15 | traeak | ahh okay |
| 18:38.54 | CIA-122 | rhombus-tech: Matthias master * rf7e8b7ae9c78 /allwinner_a10/orders/Aell.mdwn: |
| 18:43.17 | Kraln | better than gma500 |
| 18:43.26 | traeak | heh |
| 18:43.29 | traeak | got one of those as well |
| 19:02.18 | CIA-122 | rhombus-tech: Matthias master * rc83e7a39048e /allwinner_a10/orders/Aell.mdwn: |
| 19:04.01 | CIA-122 | rhombus-tech: Dejan master * rf85da2e99149 /allwinner_a10/orders/deki.mdwn: |
| 19:07.24 | CIA-122 | rhombus-tech: Dejan master * rf9a0c95a6383 /allwinner_a10/orders/deki.mdwn: |
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| 19:55.21 | mnemoc | libv: ping |
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| 22:20.25 | hackandfab | mnemoc, everyone else is sleeping? |
| 22:25.15 | hno | still awake, but should be asleep. |
| 22:35.56 | hackandfab | hno, the usb232 image on you aliexpress was confusing. It's connected to USB port intead of UART |
| 22:40.53 | hno | hackandfab, what? |
| 22:42.34 | hno | you mean hipboi_? |
| 22:42.55 | hackandfab | emmm, my mistake, yes :P |
| 22:42.57 | hno | hipboi_ http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/TTL-to-USB-debug-board/511685_542914515.html is clearly wrongly connected. |
| 22:43.24 | hackandfab | yes, It was meant to hipboi |
| 22:46.06 | traeak | i got a 6 prong one from fleaby for 3usd shipped |
| 22:46.16 | traeak | s/fleaby/fleabay |
| 22:46.24 | traeak | opos trailing |
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| 22:47.08 | hno | hopefully he will notice and correct. You can also try sending him an email. Tom Cubie <mr.hipboi@gmail.com> |
| 22:47.25 | hno | traeak, UART? |
| 22:50.10 | lundman | mornig |
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