| 00:10.28 | lundman | and on mirror |
| 00:13.49 | lundman | wonder if its worth making dd image |
| 00:26.24 | Turl | would use it |
| 00:26.26 | Turl | :) |
| 00:28.09 | lundman | I have a feeling v1.2 is the old android 2.3 |
| 00:28.13 | lundman | not ICS or higher |
| 00:29.05 | Turl | unpack it and check system/build.prop |
| 00:30.45 | lundman | hmm yeha, maybe I'll dd it in and have a look |
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| 00:52.18 | lundman | ok I'll try that |
| 01:02.16 | lundman | hmm, seems the only change was to load more ads on it |
| 01:07.26 | lundman | no market that I can see.. this is not a good step |
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| 01:22.20 | lundman | guess we just check if any libraries are newer, then I go back to previous firmware with market |
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| 08:57.17 | mnemoc | git st |
| 08:57.19 | mnemoc | err |
| 09:01.07 | cat_x301 | mnemoc: tried to compile linux-sunxi-3.4 branch, got this error: |
| 09:01.07 | cat_x301 | <skip> |
| 09:01.07 | cat_x301 | drivers/net/wireless/rtl8192cu/os_dep/osdep_service.c:1057:67: error: 'struct wake_lock' has no member named 'link' |
| 09:01.07 | cat_x301 | make[4]: *** [drivers/net/wireless/rtl8192cu/os_dep/osdep_service.o] Error 1 |
| 09:01.07 | cat_x301 | make[4]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... |
| 09:01.07 | cat_x301 | make[4]: *** wait: No child processes. Stop. |
| 09:01.08 | cat_x301 | make[3]: *** [drivers/net/wireless/rtl8192cu] Error 2 |
| 09:01.08 | cat_x301 | make[2]: *** [drivers/net/wireless] Error 2 |
| 09:01.08 | cat_x301 | make[1]: *** [drivers/net] Error 2 |
| 09:01.09 | cat_x301 | make: *** [drivers] Error 2 |
| 09:01.09 | cat_x301 | Is this already known? |
| 09:03.56 | cat_x301 | oh, that's android crap.. |
| 09:04.34 | mnemoc | cat_x301: yes :( please disable that driver |
| 09:05.13 | mnemoc | cat_x301: if you have ethernet (mele or cubie) change the initial state of the usbc to enabled in script.bin |
| 09:05.41 | cat_x301 | mnemoc: unf. nope, i only have mk802. |
| 09:05.52 | cat_x301 | so perhaps i need this one |
| 09:05.53 | mnemoc | cool. then just disable that broken driver |
| 09:06.16 | cat_x301 | mnemoc: but i wont have connectivity then |
| 09:06.26 | mnemoc | cat_x301: you have wifi |
| 09:06.30 | mnemoc | err |
| 09:06.42 | mnemoc | i got confused sorry |
| 09:06.53 | mnemoc | forget what I sad about ethernet |
| 09:07.00 | mnemoc | disable that driver and enable rtlwifi's |
| 09:07.03 | cat_x301 | mnemoc: forgotten :) |
| 09:07.10 | cat_x301 | mnemoc: ah, ok |
| 09:07.35 | mnemoc | then edit your script.bin to power that usbc since the begining |
| 09:08.26 | mnemoc | the allwinnerized driver adds poor-man power management by powering the usb controller on driver load and shut it down on unload |
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| 09:09.06 | mnemoc | but if you just set the usbc to powered in script.bin the mainline driver will deal with the wifi chip without troubles |
| 09:09.35 | cat_x301 | mnemoc: thanks, will try |
| 09:10.43 | mnemoc | now time to brew some more coffee to wake up my brain... |
| 09:10.52 | cat_x301 | thinks of making dedicated defconfig for mk802.. now two things should be handled there.. |
| 09:11.11 | mnemoc | this driver thing is generic, not mk802 specific |
| 09:11.19 | cat_x301 | mnemoc: i had mine already: but brain is still kinda alseep.. |
| 09:11.26 | mnemoc | :) |
| 09:11.31 | lundman | hmm |
| 09:11.37 | cat_x301 | mnemoc: but i mean it was enabled by default in sun4i_defconfig |
| 09:11.48 | cat_x301 | which does not work for mk802 |
| 09:11.59 | cat_x301 | another thing is that DVFS part. |
| 09:13.52 | mnemoc | ihmo the dvfs issue must be fixed in code, not adding a mostly redundant defconfig... |
| 09:14.33 | cat_x301 | mnemoc: right. what about wifi stuff? |
| 09:16.07 | mnemoc | I think rtl8192cu should be removed... and plat-sunxi and usb-sunxi improved to deal with this config option behind the scene |
| 09:16.15 | mnemoc | scenes* |
| 09:17.47 | cat_x301 | mnemoc: fair. anyway, will workaround by now. btw, what is the policy for sending patches should i come up with anything? |
| 09:18.51 | cat_x301 | apologizes for distracting mnemoc from coffee.. |
| 09:18.55 | mnemoc | cat_x301: currently we use github's issue tracker... but it might be a good idea to create a real mailing list if the rest of the community approves |
| 09:19.50 | cat_x301 | mnemoc: would be brilliant to have one. |
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| 09:24.28 | mnemoc | sad groups.google.com doesn't let you create lists with custom domains in the free version :< |
| 09:28.15 | mnemoc | but I suppose we can just install mailman in the same server that is hosting the wiki |
| 09:31.52 | mnemoc | does vger.kernel.org accept not-mainlined projects? |
| 09:32.28 | cat_x301 | mnemoc: no idea |
| 09:36.18 | mnemoc | cat_x301: as it was your idea, can you file a ticket requesting a mailing list and maybe a patch review thingy like gerrit? :) |
| 09:37.06 | cat_x301 | mnemoc: need to learn something before doing this :) |
| 09:37.23 | mnemoc | how to register on github? :p |
| 09:37.30 | cat_x301 | is afraid of screwing things up publicly :) |
| 09:37.48 | cat_x301 | ah, i was thinking you ask about vger. |
| 09:39.05 | cat_x301 | is looking for that ticket creator option on github.. |
| 09:41.10 | cat_x301 | mnemoc: any hints how do i create a ticket, pls :) |
| 09:41.57 | mnemoc | https://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner/issues/new ? |
| 09:41.59 | mnemoc | :) |
| 09:42.04 | mnemoc | need to go, back in 30m |
| 09:44.21 | cat_x301 | mnemoc: ah, i thought of some github specific ticket system :) -- working for corporates eroded my brains.. |
| 09:45.20 | rz2k | <hno> and how to make a Linux livesuit image is explained in the SDK documentation. -- what SDK you are talking about? where I can found it? I thought about using those windows unpack/pack and imgpacker tools for livesuit images. There is another way? |
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| 10:09.08 | mnemoc | rz2k: hno pushed a copy of the a10 sdk to his github long ago |
| 10:10.08 | mnemoc | rz2k: and olimex pushed the a13 sdk somewhere too |
| 10:32.38 | cat_x301 | mnemoc: stupid question i know, but how to reply to particular comment in github? |
| 10:34.11 | mnemoc | cat_x301: by mail... but they end up at the tail of the forum-ish list of comments anyway |
| 10:34.38 | mnemoc | yes, github's issue tracker is poor |
| 10:36.56 | mnemoc | big ouch at https://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner/issues/73#issuecomment-8455410 |
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| 10:40.05 | RaYmAn | aww |
| 10:40.10 | RaYmAn | that's too bad :/ |
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| 11:10.25 | rz2k | wikificated http://linux-sunxi.org/Fex_Guide |
| 11:10.38 | RaYmAn | woo! |
| 11:12.33 | rz2k | RaYmAn: could you please kill this? http://linux-sunxi.org/Very_good_Tips_To_Assist_Your_Video_Game_Taking_part_in |
| 11:13.59 | RaYmAn | done |
| 11:15.15 | rz2k | https://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner/issues/74 - guy has same issue as I had when I was running builds on archlinux with latest grep/sed/awk. |
| 11:15.29 | rz2k | I thought we had that fixed |
| 11:16.26 | rz2k | RaYmAn: thanks |
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| 11:30.19 | cat_x301 | linux-sunxi-3.4: |
| 11:30.19 | cat_x301 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:30.19 | cat_x301 | mv: cannot stat `drivers/gpu/mali/ump/../mali/linux/.tmp_mali_osk_atomics.o': No such file or directory |
| 11:30.19 | cat_x301 | make[4]: *** [drivers/gpu/mali/ump/../mali/linux/mali_osk_atomics.o] Error 1 |
| 11:30.19 | cat_x301 | make[4]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... |
| 11:30.19 | cat_x301 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:30.19 | cat_x301 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:30.19 | cat_x301 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:30.19 | cat_x301 | make[3]: *** [drivers/gpu/mali/ump] Error 2 |
| 11:30.19 | cat_x301 | wonder if this is known problem? |
| 11:39.55 | mnemoc | cat_x301: not known |
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| 11:54.58 | cat_x301 | mnemoc: running make modules second time cured it.. strange.. |
| 11:55.33 | rz2k | another mali building order mistake |
| 11:55.39 | rz2k | we had those before, afaik. |
| 11:58.49 | cat_x301 | rz2k: have you checked how linaro handles mali compilation? at least quick glance at it gave me good impression. maybe we need to copy it. |
| 11:59.51 | rz2k | linaro has st-ericsson flavoured mali, by the way, not a public one from malideveloper.com. |
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| 12:44.10 | Turl | cat_x301: that issue is a dependency problem |
| 12:44.29 | Turl | cat_x301: should be fixed on next_mali https://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner/commits/wip/linux-sunxi-3.0/next_mali |
| 12:46.35 | cat_x301 | Turl: it hits this in my case, drivers/video/sunxi/disp/dev_fb.c: |
| 12:46.35 | cat_x301 | else if(need_open_hdmi == 0 && from == 1) |
| 12:46.35 | cat_x301 | then it returns w/o initialization. |
| 12:46.51 | cat_x301 | have to go now.. |
| 12:47.06 | Turl | (I meant the mali build issue) |
| 12:47.29 | cat_x301 | Turl: ah. ok :) |
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| 13:48.54 | hipboi | hno: ping |
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| 13:49.18 | hipboi | > (u-boot boots ok from sdcard, but kernel dies at any printk) |
| 13:49.32 | hipboi | is this the clock related? |
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| 14:25.30 | oliv3r | lkcl: I think we missunderstood eachother, I wasn't speaking of the mali GPU, but specifically the CedarX VPU. Is there any talks/plans in getting proper open source support for this bit aswell? I know there's some reverse engineering going on and in time, that could be fruitfull, but until then, anything in the open pipes? |
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| 14:39.22 | merbanan | oliv3r: I looked though the libve code and it is based on alot of reference software, I don't see it likely that it will be released |
| 14:39.48 | merbanan | what would be possible is reimplementation of it |
| 14:40.37 | merbanan | IIRC there was code for mjpeg |
| 14:41.02 | merbanan | reimplementing that looks like a doable task |
| 14:41.34 | merbanan | but for vc1 and h264 there was quite a lot of code |
| 14:43.37 | merbanan | if I understand correctly the biggest complaint from gimli was that the time for decoding some frames where to slow |
| 14:44.47 | merbanan | and I can understand the reason for the slowness if it is as a lot of reference code that parses the codec data before passing it of to the hardware for decode |
| 14:45.17 | merbanan | reference code is nearly never optimized |
| 14:47.21 | andoma | merbanan: you're lurking here as well? :) |
| 14:48.19 | merbanan | yupp :) |
| 14:48.36 | merbanan | got my media player a week ago |
| 14:48.49 | andoma | what hw? |
| 14:48.55 | merbanan | mini-x |
| 14:48.59 | andoma | url? |
| 14:50.13 | merbanan | http://linux-sunxi.org/MinixX10 |
| 14:52.53 | merbanan | do you have any hardware ? |
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| 15:01.48 | lkcl | oliv3r: no, i wasn't misunderstanding at all. i will only speak to allwinner once there is a financial incentive - a contract that is significant to them that would be lost if they *didn't* provide the full source code of libcedarx. |
| 15:02.37 | lkcl | in the mean time i hope that someone continues with the reverse-engineering to the point where that provides an alternative avenue and additional leverage |
| 15:05.05 | merbanan | lkcl: is libcedarx != libve ? |
| 15:05.38 | traeak | lkcl: so when's the mips multicore coming out? |
| 15:05.54 | traeak | heh |
| 15:06.00 | lkcl | merbanan: no idea! |
| 15:06.02 | lkcl | 1sec... |
| 15:06.35 | lkcl | traeak: MIPS doesn't do actual CPUs, they just do designs (like ARM). are you referring to ICubeCorp? |
| 15:06.43 | lkcl | their CPU design is completely different |
| 15:06.46 | traeak | lkcl: yes assuing they are using a mips core? |
| 15:07.14 | traeak | s/assuing/assuming/ |
| 15:07.49 | lkcl | traeak: absolutely not. it's a completely independent architecture, waaayy more advanced than anything that MIPS have ever dreamed of. |
| 15:08.32 | andoma | merbanan: mk802 |
| 15:08.33 | lkcl | it's a VLIW architecture for a start. |
| 15:08.34 | hno | hipboi, sun5i branch should boot fine. |
| 15:08.57 | lkcl | merbanan: i'm not able to find anything about what libve is - do you have any links/references? |
| 15:09.58 | lkcl | ok i found something.... |
| 15:10.05 | lkcl | http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.netbook.arm/4441 |
| 15:10.24 | lkcl | right. merbanan: libve is a reverse-engineering *wrapper* around libcedarx. |
| 15:10.44 | lkcl | its purpose is to provide a trace of the operations of every single function of libcedarx. |
| 15:11.39 | merbanan | I meant libvecore |
| 15:12.36 | merbanan | andoma: so are you gonna do a showtime port ? :) |
| 15:12.39 | lkcl | traeak: ok, so ICubeCorp have been using the "Multi Fab" Programme (not the exact name) but it's where you |
| 15:12.43 | lkcl | merbanan: http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/pipermail/arm-netbook/2012-June/004453.html |
| 15:13.10 | andoma | merbanan: that's the plan |
| 15:13.11 | lkcl | where you share a portion of a wafer's cost with other people. you usually have to wait for a 3-month run |
| 15:13.35 | lkcl | the costs of doing so however are far far less than if you get a fab to run an entire wafer just for you. |
| 15:13.40 | merbanan | andoma: we need working hw decode |
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| 15:14.19 | lkcl | so the last time ICubeCorp did this, they were able to get a number of working 65nm 700mhz Dual-Core processors, codenamed "IC1". |
| 15:14.56 | merbanan | andoma: I need to come by with your stuff some day also |
| 15:15.06 | lkcl | 700mhz really isn't fast enough, even though the VLIW and the parallelism ramps the actual performance up considerably, it still isn't enough in today's market. |
| 15:15.15 | andoma | merbanan: yes.. i'm in NYC now though |
| 15:15.21 | andoma | back late next week |
| 15:15.24 | merbanan | ok |
| 15:15.39 | lkcl | so, it'll be at least 18 months before they come out with something (40nm, 28nm) |
| 15:15.47 | traeak | vliw brings up the itanium |
| 15:16.08 | hno | had that printk issue during early development. |
| 15:16.19 | traeak | itanium pretty expensive, and isn't the code density sort of poor on vliw ? |
| 15:17.04 | specing | vliw brings up the 100 core tilera |
| 15:17.12 | specing | vapourware. |
| 15:17.55 | traeak | there's a korean company with an interesting instruction set that shows exceptionally good density and good extendability |
| 15:18.02 | traeak | but no clue...anyways all vapor and speculation |
| 15:18.20 | specing | yep |
| 15:18.33 | specing | goes out to the store to buy another x86 :( |
| 15:19.02 | andoma | merbanan: but i would like to run it without X so i guess i'll have to wait/work with the lima driver |
| 15:19.31 | traeak | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extendable_instruction_set_computer EISC type |
| 15:19.37 | traeak | but still |
| 15:19.54 | traeak | something open for once with good performance takes the cake |
| 15:20.59 | hipboi | hno: there is an interesting issue that some hardware u-boot can boot kernel |
| 15:21.06 | hipboi | hno: but some not |
| 15:21.09 | hipboi | hno: http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?6,9527 |
| 15:21.58 | hipboi | hno: i beleive it's the freqence of the cpu at u-boot stage |
| 15:23.59 | traeak | lkcl: so 18 months before something comes out, there needs to be stuff like compilers, etc written in addition to OS stuff as well. fun fun, so 18 months maybe to even start anything |
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| 15:33.41 | hno | hipboi, yes, quite likely due to the core voltage issue / frequency. |
| 15:36.36 | hno | hipboi, On my A13 board with the core running under voltage the CPU hang when trying to jump to printk, sometimes randomly earlier. |
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| 15:52.50 | cat_x301 | hmm, github is down.. |
| 15:59.33 | RaYmAn | again? :S |
| 16:01.50 | mnemoc | even http://status.github.com/ doesn't answer :< |
| 16:03.27 | RaYmAn | it does - just slow as hell |
| 16:03.33 | RaYmAn | 08:58 AM PST |
| 16:03.33 | RaYmAn | DB cluster is slowly recovering. |
| 16:03.33 | RaYmAn | 08:35 AM PST |
| 16:03.33 | RaYmAn | We've taken a bad DB down and are working to return the DB cluster to a normal state now. |
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| 16:19.16 | hno | 09:10 am PST |
| 16:19.16 | hno | Performance is still impacted such that the majority of requests are hitting unicorns. Caches are slowly warming. |
| 16:21.15 | hno | DB issues two days in a row. Hopefully they actually fixed it today. |
| 16:28.00 | jelly-home | what did the unicorns do wrong?! |
| 16:29.33 | RaYmAn | they stepped on the rainbows |
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| 16:53.31 | mnemoc | those angry unicorns are disturbing |
| 16:54.09 | RaYmAn | grmbls at paypal |
| 16:55.16 | RaYmAn | they put random holds on transfers...ffs, I was paying 10$ to a huge, well-known company. :S |
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| 17:23.55 | jelly-home | RaYmAn: I've been unable to withdraw from paypal for months \o/ |
| 17:24.35 | jelly-home | (using a certain kind of bank card, in a certain country) |
| 17:25.43 | RaYmAn | I must say, I've never actually attempted withdrawing money from paypal |
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| 17:28.38 | jelly-home | I've had the luxury of being paid for some over-the-irc support exactly once, and it stopped working a couple months later |
| 17:33.01 | WarheadsSE | has never had problems wtih paypal |
| 17:38.41 | xxiao | over-the-irc support...what does that mean |
| 17:39.59 | RaYmAn | I assume it's like "over-the-phone" support, just over irc :P |
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| 17:49.36 | xxiao | nice |
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| 17:56.23 | WarheadsSE | has been paid for that |
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| 18:26.22 | Turl | best of luck RaYmAn |
| 18:26.29 | Turl | hopes they don't freeze your account |
| 18:26.50 | Turl | RaYmAn: I bought a router from a dude once, I paid the router in full, no issues |
| 18:27.15 | RaYmAn | I use my paypal fairly much tbh |
| 18:27.15 | Turl | then after he shipped it I paid the shipping cost |
| 18:27.23 | Turl | and paypal froze my account and reverted it |
| 18:27.24 | RaYmAn | this is from TI |
| 18:27.25 | RaYmAn | :P |
| 18:27.43 | RaYmAn | well, to TI |
| 18:27.44 | RaYmAn | but. |
| 18:27.47 | Turl | after talking w/ them they unfroze it, paid shipping again and froze it again >.> |
| 18:28.04 | RaYmAn | I have paid stuff after this |
| 18:29.55 | traeak | ewveryone lovez payscam |
| 18:30.07 | RaYmAn | indeed |
| 18:30.11 | mnemoc | TI accepts such small payments?? |
| 18:30.20 | RaYmAn | mnemoc: ... launchpad! :P |
| 18:30.25 | mnemoc | :) |
| 18:30.35 | RaYmAn | 4.99$ |
| 18:31.55 | mnemoc | that's an 8bit MCU board, right? |
| 18:32.45 | mnemoc | 16 |
| 18:32.49 | RaYmAn | no |
| 18:32.50 | RaYmAn | 32-bit |
| 18:33.07 | mnemoc | uh |
| 18:33.13 | RaYmAn | the Stellaris LaunchPad is 32-bit, ~80Mhz ARM - Cortex M4 |
| 18:33.43 | mnemoc | that's isn't too bad |
| 18:33.53 | mnemoc | for $5 I mean |
| 18:33.54 | RaYmAn | for 4.99$ incl. free shipping, nope |
| 18:34.51 | mnemoc | pre-order, promotional price :p |
| 18:35.05 | RaYmAn | it also has built-in jtag debugger |
| 18:35.11 | mnemoc | :o |
| 18:35.27 | RaYmAn | yeah..Their other launchpads are at most 17$ |
| 18:35.42 | rm | TI cancelled my order |
| 18:35.53 | rm | because obviously I am ordering this to make an ICBM |
| 18:36.24 | mnemoc | o.o |
| 18:36.58 | rm | yes, the cancellation status shows some acronym that is related to Export Control restrictions |
| 18:37.39 | rm | sigh, will have to use an Arduino for my ICBM then |
| 18:37.43 | rm | or a Raspberry Pi |
| 18:37.54 | rm | with guidance via a webcam |
| 18:38.43 | xxiao | i have a stellaris EKS-LM4F232 Eval kit here, got it $75, collecting dust here now |
| 18:43.17 | specing | $75? |
| 18:45.07 | mnemoc | quite expensive dust collector... |
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| 18:52.38 | L84Supper | xxiao, is the Code Composer Studio locked to the board? |
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| 19:01.10 | RaYmAn | teensy that is |
| 19:01.25 | L84Supper | real men don't use jtag ! |
| 19:01.42 | RaYmAn | lol |
| 19:07.03 | WarheadsSE | hasnt used jtag yet :p |
| 19:07.04 | rz2k | real men bitbang jtag on ft232 |
| 19:07.31 | rz2k | did that, flashing xc2c64 = 15 minutes |
| 19:11.51 | hno | rz2k, should be possible to clock JTAG fairly decent with that chip in bit-bang mode. |
| 19:13.35 | RaYmAn | hno: what kind of speeds have you managed with a13? |
| 19:13.42 | RaYmAn | I've found that anything past 15mhz seems to break here |
| 19:15.50 | xxiao | L84Supper: don't think so |
| 19:17.04 | xxiao | L84Supper: NXP is dying as it appears, ST has the largest portfolio, TI is catching up fast(so is FSL) but has a much less selections |
| 19:17.56 | L84Supper | xxiao, any opinions on the open tool chain? |
| 19:18.21 | RaYmAn | i'd assume any arm gcc with cortex m4 support would wokr on all of them? :S |
| 19:18.36 | xxiao | as of now i mostly used code-composer |
| 19:18.41 | L84Supper | I have lost track of all the different TI code composer studios over the years gathering dust we had to buy |
| 19:18.56 | xxiao | never had time to use open-tool-chain on M3/M4 yet |
| 19:19.42 | xxiao | you can buy dirty cheap M3/M4 boards from taobao or aliexpress , mostly using ST |
| 19:19.58 | L84Supper | it's not so important for me , but it might effect the adoption by developers that prefer open tools or very low cost tools |
| 19:20.04 | hno | RaYmAn, about the same i think. |
| 19:20.26 | xxiao | the J-LINK debugger is sold below $12 there too |
| 19:20.35 | xxiao | cloned illegal stuff i'm sure |
| 19:20.54 | hno | RaYmAn, have mine configured at 10. |
| 19:20.55 | xxiao | i think it's $18 or so |
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