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| 03:37.06 | cubiefan | hello |
| 03:37.45 | cubiefan | Is there anyone who knows a way to buy cubieboard right now? |
| 03:43.37 | Skaag | what do you like about it? |
| 03:43.57 | Skaag | (I don't know how or where to bus a cubieboard) |
| 03:44.04 | Skaag | s/bus/buy/g |
| 03:48.51 | buZz | aliexpress :P |
| 03:53.17 | nulluser | http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php |
| 03:53.28 | nulluser | I was getting excited, until I saw that heat sink! |
| 03:56.26 | nulluser | Which arm SoC has the best manufacture support? |
| 03:59.21 | rz2k | there is zero manufacturer support for exynos4412 |
| 03:59.32 | rz2k | u-boot for odroid-x2/u2 is in blob |
| 03:59.52 | rz2k | it doesnt run the 3.0.51 kernel from android if it is compiled with gcc 4.7.x |
| 03:59.55 | nulluser | yeah, I'm looking for something with good support, and good built quality |
| 04:00.11 | nulluser | Even at a premium in cost |
| 04:00.25 | rz2k | there is also two proprietary bootloaders |
| 04:01.10 | nulluser | What about the Cotton Candy? |
| 04:02.31 | rz2k | nulluser: take the freescale |
| 04:02.39 | rz2k | they have paid and free support |
| 04:03.09 | nulluser | By support I mean more like releasing the current kernel code and drivers for the devices as shipped |
| 04:05.25 | nulluser | The GK802 uses one |
| 04:09.09 | nulluser | I'm curious to see how far these devices go in 5 years. We might end up with something the size of a single stick of gum that is inductively powered, communicates to the display using near field rf, and is completely sealed. who knows. |
| 04:10.54 | rz2k | I would not appreciate completely sealed devices :p |
| 04:11.01 | nulluser | heh |
| 04:11.45 | nulluser | ok, clamshell with a really small o-ring ;) |
| 04:11.45 | ManoftheSea | I'd like to report success on getting 3.0.52+ working on mk802ii. |
| 04:12.10 | ManoftheSea | I do not yet have access to full 1 GB memory, and I haven't been able to test hdmi yet. |
| 04:12.18 | ManoftheSea | But I have a wifi ssh connection to the device. |
| 04:12.29 | nulluser | My config was console only |
| 04:12.56 | ManoftheSea | Does anyone know how usb-gadget networking works? |
| 04:13.13 | ManoftheSea | Does the device have to advertise to the host, to get it to hotplug usbnet? |
| 04:14.03 | ManoftheSea | like, I have a usb0 on the device, using cdc-ether. But the host, modprobe usbnet, doesn't provide a matching interface. |
| 04:14.46 | ManoftheSea | My success comes from taking the mele 4GB image and swapping the uImage and root-fs. |
| 04:14.53 | nulluser | No idea. You have any heat problems with your kernel? |
| 04:15.11 | ManoftheSea | So, it seems my failure before was in compilation of u-boot. GCC 4.7 failure? armhf failure? |
| 04:15.29 | ManoftheSea | nulluser: haven't noticed, but I just got it working a few hours ago. |
| 04:15.54 | nulluser | I had problems long before that when it was in the case |
| 04:16.15 | nulluser | I might have had an unknown evb.bin file with bad settings, not sure |
| 04:16.16 | ManoftheSea | Also, pi vs. mk802ii on /. Lol. What is the fascination with the Pi? |
| 04:16.49 | ManoftheSea | evb.bin comes from fex2bin on evb.script, right? |
| 04:16.56 | nulluser | Cheap, and easy to access IO. Lots of support |
| 04:17.12 | nulluser | I tired one, and had to move on to the A10 for my application |
| 04:17.13 | ManoftheSea | but if you're gonna IO, get an arduino. |
| 04:17.20 | ManoftheSea | If you're going to computer, get a real computer. |
| 04:17.27 | ManoftheSea | RPi is old crap. |
| 04:18.03 | nulluser | I pulled the evb.bin off some image, and ran bin2fex |
| 04:18.16 | nulluser | but I'm not an expert on configuring it, so I would not really notice is something is off |
| 04:18.23 | ManoftheSea | well, I have the file from the mk802ii internal. |
| 04:18.32 | nulluser | I do know that cpufreq tells me I'm running at 600 mhz, which is fine |
| 04:18.33 | ManoftheSea | I'm just going to replace, and try |
| 04:18.41 | nulluser | I clocked it down to 400 to keep it cooler |
| 04:23.47 | nulluser | DO you have a serial port? can you post your boot output if possible? |
| 04:25.18 | ManoftheSea | I don't. |
| 04:25.30 | ManoftheSea | I won't have the usb-ttl until January, probably mid. |
| 04:25.38 | ManoftheSea | And I don't know where the port is on the mk802ii. |
| 04:25.53 | nulluser | It has one, kind of pain to solder |
| 04:26.02 | ManoftheSea | where? |
| 04:26.37 | nulluser | I'll see if I can find a picture |
| 04:26.57 | ManoftheSea | i've seen the 802 and 802+ |
| 04:27.15 | ManoftheSea | this isn't them. |
| 04:27.38 | nulluser | yeah, it's the two small pads to the side of one of the chips. |
| 04:27.56 | nulluser | I don't have the board any more, but I will take a quick look for a picture |
| 04:28.05 | ManoftheSea | over in the weirdly labeled area? |
| 04:28.37 | ManoftheSea | or is it two random pads strewn about the board? |
| 04:30.14 | nulluser | http://www.xdot.ro/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Mk802_uart-413x310.jpg |
| 04:30.26 | nulluser | Is that your board? |
| 04:30.43 | ManoftheSea | no. |
| 04:31.01 | ManoftheSea | That's the mk802. I have an mk802ii |
| 04:31.09 | nulluser | yeah, I had the same board |
| 04:31.16 | nulluser | your's not the one in the image. |
| 04:31.31 | L84Supper | what's the actual speed the memory is clocked at on either of those? |
| 04:31.52 | nulluser | http://www.rikomagic.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2488 |
| 04:32.00 | nulluser | I remember now, sorry, I mixed boards up |
| 04:32.56 | ManoftheSea | that looks close... Maybe yes. |
| 04:33.06 | ManoftheSea | I'll take a look tomorrow. You said you wanted boot info? |
| 04:33.35 | nulluser | I just wanted to compare the output. I'm going to post mine in a few, cleaning up the file |
| 04:34.23 | ManoftheSea | I'm headed to bed. Midnight here. |
| 04:34.38 | ManoftheSea | But if you wanted a printout or something, I could email in the future. |
| 04:34.42 | nulluser | http://pastebin.com/59NVTmeQ |
| 04:35.09 | nulluser | Ignore that one, it's the wrong board |
| 04:35.19 | nulluser | I keep forgetting I'm working on a mini xplus |
| 04:35.31 | ManoftheSea | I have a dmesg output, if you like that. |
| 04:35.40 | nulluser | I have one for your board |
| 04:35.42 | nulluser | yeah, sure |
| 04:36.05 | ManoftheSea | I don't know how it'd be useful to me, yet. |
| 04:37.06 | nulluser | I tried 3.4 yesterday, but had a lot of problems |
| 04:37.25 | ManoftheSea | 3.4? Is that with the sunxi platform stuff? |
| 04:37.35 | ManoftheSea | I thought it was still WIP |
| 04:37.39 | ManoftheSea | (work in progress) |
| 04:37.41 | nulluser | it was in linux-sunxi |
| 04:37.47 | nulluser | yeah, that might explain some problems ;) |
| 04:38.16 | nulluser | I don't really have any complaints with 3.0.52, supports everything that I need |
| 04:38.18 | ganbold | do I need pin pull before setting pin for output? |
| 04:39.35 | ManoftheSea | nulluser: you want me to pastebin, or just email a file to you? |
| 04:40.04 | nulluser | Whatever works for you, my email is nulluser@gmail.com |
| 04:41.03 | nulluser | I had a hell of time getting the kernel to compile with too many changes from the default config. I would disable something, and something else seemingly unrelated would break. |
| 04:41.46 | nulluser | There has to be some dependencies that are not setup right in there |
| 04:42.25 | ManoftheSea | the sunxi code is difficult, says some of the list developers. |
| 04:42.38 | ManoftheSea | It's definitely not up to "snuff", whatever snuff means. |
| 04:42.46 | nulluser | yeah, I feel that |
| 04:42.55 | nulluser | Linus would not be proud |
| 04:43.33 | nulluser | I hear that 3.7 is supposed to unify a lot of stuff |
| 04:43.43 | ManoftheSea | nulluser: thank you for the forum link. I'm headed to sleep. You should have an email. |
| 04:44.49 | nulluser | Thanks |
| 04:48.09 | nulluser | I'm also running debian on mine with the same kernel. |
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| 07:44.58 | rm | http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/cubieboard-1GB-2012-9-9-revision/511685_721644583.html seems to be open for preorders |
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| 09:41.36 | steev | i just got my ODROID-U2 :/ |
| 09:41.40 | steev | otherwise i probably would |
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| 11:09.49 | buZz | is working on a cubieboard case |
| 11:10.21 | buZz | http://etc.servehttp.com/cubiecase_test4.png |
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| 11:25.42 | rm | > do you know if those fixes have yet build within amerys latest hwpack? |
| 11:25.42 | mnemoc | libv: alive? |
| 11:25.52 | rm | mnemoc got reduced to "amerys" already :/ |
| 11:25.54 | rm | :) |
| 11:26.03 | mnemoc | narf :< |
| 11:29.17 | buZz | ha, Hans de Goede posted kernelmods for weird resolutions \o/ |
| 11:29.49 | mnemoc | not weird, just not tv-ish |
| 11:29.53 | buZz | weird Floris Bos posted 'it exists´ and 'try my berryboot' |
| 11:30.06 | buZz | but didnt include a link to the actual patch ;) |
| 11:30.25 | mnemoc | no need for patches if you use the git repos |
| 11:30.32 | buZz | ah :D great |
| 11:30.48 | buZz | i just learned that the resolution i want is most popular in the world |
| 11:30.55 | buZz | http://www.neowin.net/news/study-1366x768-now-the-most-popular-screen-resolution |
| 11:30.57 | mnemoc | for the hdmi changes use the stage branches. but hold it 2 minutes |
| 11:31.12 | buZz | hey i am naked in bed, i can hold it for 2 hours ;) |
| 11:31.19 | mnemoc | :) |
| 11:32.21 | buZz | mnemoc: did you say you could help to with getting a dxf? |
| 11:32.43 | mnemoc | eh? what? |
| 11:32.46 | buZz | cause i realized my drawing lacked the sata power and serial connector |
| 11:32.57 | buZz | ah hmm context |
| 11:33.22 | buZz | 22:44:27 < mnemoc> btw, if you want I can give you a http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/buzz/ to share your files |
| 11:33.25 | buZz | 22:44:50 < mnemoc> and these .dxf :p |
| 11:33.29 | mnemoc | i told you the 1.1 dwg file had all pads and that you could merge them to get a more complete drawing |
| 11:33.41 | buZz | hehe yes |
| 11:33.51 | buZz | nobody needs the pads to do case design :P |
| 11:33.52 | mnemoc | and that you can share your files from dl.linux-sunxi.org |
| 11:34.11 | mnemoc | buZz: right, but you need to make the hole for the uart |
| 11:34.16 | buZz | yeah .. |
| 11:34.25 | mnemoc | and those come from the second dwg |
| 11:34.26 | buZz | if that only is featured in the pads, so be it |
| 11:34.27 | buZz | :P |
| 11:34.44 | buZz | maybe i should continue trying to warez autodesk |
| 11:34.52 | buZz | its such a mess dealing with these tools :( |
| 11:34.57 | mnemoc | autocadws.com ? |
| 11:35.18 | mnemoc | flash but better than "warez" |
| 11:35.25 | buZz | yeah, almost made my computer crash on that dwg |
| 11:35.25 | buZz | :P |
| 11:35.31 | mnemoc | doh |
| 11:35.40 | buZz | just 2gb ram ;) |
| 11:35.58 | mnemoc | https://www.google.com/search?q=convert+dwg+to+dxf+online |
| 11:35.59 | buZz | guess 2d drawing needs 4gb or more nowadays |
| 11:36.12 | buZz | i tried these online tools, but they destroy the layer data |
| 11:36.34 | mnemoc | :( |
| 11:38.27 | buZz | ah well |
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| 11:43.39 | torpor | hiya folks. |
| 11:43.51 | torpor | just wanted to report: the Motorola Lapdock + MK802 combo is AWESOME!!! :) |
| 11:44.51 | mnemoc | hate it has male connectors |
| 11:45.12 | buZz | torpor: hehe |
| 11:45.13 | mnemoc | anyone making a nice adapter board? :) |
| 11:45.18 | buZz | i have cubieboard with lapdock |
| 11:45.23 | torpor | nice! |
| 11:45.24 | mnemoc | me too |
| 11:45.25 | buZz | mnemoc: please do :P |
| 11:45.36 | torpor | i'm going to metalab this evening to work on an adapter. |
| 11:45.43 | buZz | ah metalab! |
| 11:45.52 | torpor | and just ordered a couple of mk803's to modify .. |
| 11:45.57 | buZz | tell them hi and shout pong for me please |
| 11:46.03 | torpor | buZz, i see you are an openscad user! |
| 11:46.06 | buZz | yes! |
| 11:46.10 | torpor | ever been here? |
| 11:46.13 | buZz | no! |
| 11:46.13 | mnemoc | i barely can strip a wire... making a PCB is out of the question |
| 11:46.14 | buZz | :D |
| 11:46.22 | buZz | i started my own hackerspace here this year |
| 11:46.25 | buZz | http://nurdspace.nl/ |
| 11:46.34 | buZz | well, 'own' if such a thing exists ;) |
| 11:46.53 | torpor | nice! |
| 11:46.59 | buZz | mnemoc: oh its easy, just 2D drawing, your computer has 4GB ram or more? |
| 11:47.05 | torpor | a friend of yours was telling me about you yesterday .. |
| 11:47.11 | buZz | lol |
| 11:47.12 | mnemoc | torpor: please make it generic, not mk802 specific |
| 11:47.22 | buZz | torpor: i met UberFlo and Lydia at 24c3 iirc |
| 11:47.32 | mnemoc | buZz: amd e350/2GB :< |
| 11:47.41 | torpor | mnemoc, i'm going to make two things: a modified mk803 that will just slot right into the lapdock as it exists, and an adapter that makes the lapdock connectors something more 'normal'. |
| 11:47.48 | buZz | mnemoc: sadly, not good enough for 2D drawing nowadays ;) |
| 11:47.55 | torpor | buZz, overflo, and yeah lydia .. two of my favourites. |
| 11:47.58 | mnemoc | :| |
| 11:48.20 | torpor | they're all at 27c3 now .. |
| 11:48.22 | torpor | i mean ccc |
| 11:48.30 | buZz | hehe yes |
| 11:48.31 | buZz | 29c3 |
| 11:48.31 | torpor | or whatever its called, actually. |
| 11:48.33 | torpor | right |
| 11:48.34 | torpor | taht |
| 11:48.35 | torpor | that |
| 11:48.38 | buZz | :P |
| 11:48.57 | buZz | ah |
| 11:48.58 | buZz | dreamer |
| 11:49.02 | buZz | (Y) |
| 11:50.48 | mnemoc | is that a "yes" emoticon or some sort of pr0n? |
| 11:51.04 | mnemoc | scratches his head |
| 11:51.52 | buZz | yes emoticon ;) |
| 11:52.01 | buZz | actually 'msn slang' for thumbs up |
| 11:52.06 | mnemoc | i see |
| 11:52.07 | buZz | or facebook |
| 11:52.30 | buZz | ok i should get out of bed |
| 11:52.48 | buZz | yawns some more |
| 11:53.41 | mnemoc | gave himself a "real" espresso machine for xmas. nice motivation to get out of bed earlier :) |
| 11:54.36 | buZz | i have a 'pump style' espresso printer :P |
| 11:54.48 | buZz | just turn on/off and will pump all the time |
| 11:54.54 | buZz | no intelligence at all |
| 11:55.10 | buZz | even have to turn it off when the kettel is too cold |
| 11:55.18 | mnemoc | :p |
| 11:55.27 | buZz | so you have a smarter one? :) |
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| 11:57.12 | mnemoc | not much :) a 70E de'longhi ec155 |
| 11:57.26 | buZz | ahh i have a delonghi aswell |
| 11:57.52 | mnemoc | but makes better coffee than my old moka, and also better than those overpriced "capsules" |
| 11:58.00 | buZz | hehe |
| 11:58.10 | buZz | i saw on thingiverse, a device to fill those cups yourself ;) |
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| 13:39.14 | rz2k | odroid released their ubuntu image for odroid-x2, 3.0.51 kernel, compiles only with 4.4 gcc (remember I was talking about u-boot/kernel for Renesas SoC that was dying on anything above 4.3-4.4? they have the same issue), Mali is not enabled, they claim to get DDK in 1-2 month.. |
| 13:39.25 | rz2k | I was expecting better from $150 board. |
| 13:41.27 | rz2k | ah, and yes, they didnt release the kernel source with fixes for linux used in this image, they have some weird problem with SMP with default android kernel that is available in android odroid-x2 bsp, they fixed this, but still no source for it. |
| 13:41.49 | mnemoc | doh |
| 13:42.50 | rz2k | 'will be available in 5 days' - I dont trust in this after ubuntu image deadline moved in two weeks after people have got the boards from FedEx hands. |
| 13:43.36 | torpor | i'm wondering what the fastest/lightest/neatest ARM-based PC-on-a-stick out there currently is .. i want to plug more things into my lapdock. |
| 13:45.51 | mnemoc | mk802ii probably |
| 13:50.17 | HSt_ | What about sth like mk808 http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Android-4-1-1-Cortex-A9-Smart-Google-TV-Dongle-1G-DDR3-8G-ROM-WIFI-Set/651254746.html |
| 13:51.02 | HSt_ | is rk3066 ok for running linux? |
| 13:51.47 | mnemoc | don't know about the state of the public kernel and u-boot sources for the rk3066 |
| 13:55.13 | HSt_ | Found this:http://www.arctablet.com/blog/forum/rockchip-rk3066-mini-pc/ubuntu-linux-on-rk3066-minipc-pre-alpha-0-2/ so it looks like someone is working on it. |
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| 14:08.21 | penguin42 | HSt_: I'm hoping so I ordered an 809 last night :-) |
| 14:08.46 | penguin42 | HSt_: So yeh I found that, so I'm hoping it looks kind of promising |
| 14:11.33 | HSt_ | penguin42:how is spec on 809? |
| 14:11.57 | penguin42 | HSt_: It says 4GB flash, and an rk3066 |
| 14:13.49 | HSt_ | penguin42: so 809 and 808 is same but with diff flash it seems |
| 14:14.10 | penguin42 | HSt_: Looks that way, but I guess I find out when it turns up |
| 14:16.15 | penguin42 | Amazon says sometimes between Jan 2-15th - so heck I dunno |
| 14:17.58 | HSt_ | I mostly shop from aliexpress as its easier since i'm in Norway,so when I order things I often have to wait 1 month or more |
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| 14:58.47 | mnemoc | http://lightake.com/detail.do/sku.Hi802_Quad_Core_Mini_PC_Smart_TV_Box_HDMI_Stick_for_HDTV_8GB___Black-61781 |
| 14:59.24 | mnemoc | and they even added a picture of the PCB |
| 14:59.27 | mnemoc | that's progress |
| 15:00.17 | mnemoc | and a layout diagram o_O |
| 15:00.24 | penguin42 | what chip? |
| 15:01.00 | mnemoc | imx6q |
| 15:01.16 | penguin42 | oh nice |
| 15:01.45 | penguin42 | bah, and that lands the day after I order a dual core :-( |
| 15:02.04 | mnemoc | shocked by seeing a listing on such site including pcb layout diagram |
| 15:03.14 | penguin42 | mnemoc: Yeh; although I guess it's just a copy-paste of everything they were given |
| 15:03.44 | mnemoc | true :) |
| 15:04.47 | slapin | happy new year, all! |
| 15:04.50 | slapin | I hope all your work in new year will meet your demands, and all your deeds will accomplish your targets, and you will get reaches to conquir your world in your own way! |
| 15:06.40 | mnemoc | :) |
| 15:07.57 | torpor | that one looks pretty nice, i guess i'll buy it and try. can't go wrong with a quad-core imx! |
| 15:09.24 | penguin42 | yeh, that should just work with the linaro kernels |
| 15:10.56 | mnemoc | and has uart pads :) |
| 15:12.05 | torpor | ooh, that is sexy .. uart pads! |
| 15:12.10 | torpor | MIDI here i come! |
| 15:12.59 | mnemoc | well... i was thinking in a serial console, not MIDI :p |
| 15:13.29 | penguin42 | hmm kernel boot messages via midi |
| 15:13.47 | penguin42 | that oops doesn't sound right.... |
| 15:13.51 | mnemoc | *g* |
| 15:14.25 | torpor | heh |
| 15:14.30 | mnemoc | steev: can imx6 boot from uSD? |
| 15:14.31 | torpor | of course i'd be getty'ing on some other port. |
| 15:14.58 | steev | mnemoc: uh... there isn't a uSD port on mine, but i'd assume so if one put one on there |
| 15:15.20 | steev | if you mean the sabrelite, then yes, as long as you don't go full on retard and use the linaro stuff |
| 15:15.36 | mnemoc | steev: http://lightake.com/detail.do/sku.Hi802_Quad_Core_Mini_PC_Smart_TV_Box_HDMI_Stick_for_HDTV_8GB___Black-61781 |
| 15:16.24 | steev | interesting |
| 15:16.29 | mnemoc | steev: how does using the linaro stuff affect bootability? |
| 15:16.41 | mnemoc | steev: pictures include pcb and pcb layout |
| 15:17.00 | steev | mnemoc: they replace boundarydevices working uSD->SD->sata uboot with one that forces you to use either uSD, or SD, but not both |
| 15:17.12 | mnemoc | steev: doh |
| 15:17.38 | steev | all in the name of... well, i dunno why, it never made any sense at all to me |
| 15:19.15 | steev | mnemoc: i'm curious how hot that thing gets, the mx6 isn't exactly a cool chip. hell the a10 i have get's friggin hot (that weird miniland android/google tv box whatever it is) |
| 15:20.29 | steev | mnemoc: if you get one, https://github.com/boundarydevices/imx_usb_loader is quite handy |
| 15:20.58 | mnemoc | the "classic" mk802 doesn't have a PMU and the A10 relies on it to control power/heat. mk802+ and mk802ii and all other A10-based dongles have the PMU and they don't get hot |
| 15:21.03 | mnemoc | steev: awesome |
| 15:22.29 | steev | interesting |
| 15:22.32 | steev | and good to know |
| 15:23.00 | steev | use of that is something like, plug mx6-ishboard in set to boot via usb... and run ./imx_usb /path/to/u-boot-to-use |
| 15:23.29 | mnemoc | Hi802/16 ordered :p |
| 15:24.05 | mnemoc | "set to boot via usb" ? |
| 15:24.48 | torpor | mnemoc, i have a mk802ii (not the iii/iiis) and i was wondering if you know if its dual-core or not? i forgot .. ;) |
| 15:25.10 | steev | mnemoc: usually there's some dips on fsl-ish boards |
| 15:25.19 | mnemoc | torpor: if A10, it's cortex-a8 and so single-core |
| 15:26.22 | torpor | righto .. thanks! |
| 15:27.13 | mnemoc | wants an adapter from lapdock to civilized connectors :| |
| 15:27.29 | mnemoc | *hate* this cable mess |
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| 15:28.06 | penguin42 | heck you could do a wonderful little build farm with imx6q sticks like that |
| 15:32.00 | nulluser | I ordered the GK802 last night. Looks interesting. Lost of linux support from freescale, including a kernel and reference ubuntu image |
| 15:32.35 | penguin42 | yeh |
| 15:32.48 | rm | nulluser, where from |
| 15:33.16 | nulluser | geekbuying |
| 15:34.55 | rm | mkay |
| 15:35.00 | rm | never heard of that one |
| 15:35.42 | rm | $100 too |
| 15:35.45 | torpor | nulluser, sounds good.. i just got an mk802 rigged up to my lapdock, am really excited about the idea of adding more of these mini pc's to my toolbox |
| 15:35.56 | rm | at any rate, I still remember paying $74 for my first MK802 |
| 15:36.01 | rm | and now they're $35 |
| 15:36.04 | torpor | mnemoc, duct-tape |
| 15:36.13 | rm | perhaps it's worth holding off a bit on the quad-core ones |
| 15:36.14 | mnemoc | torpor: :) |
| 15:36.45 | torpor | if there is a working quad-core imx-based stik out there, i'll get it. i only wish they shipped with more than 1gig of RAM .. imagine a quad-core device with 16gigs. hmm.. |
| 15:36.53 | nulluser | http://www.armtvtech.com/armtvtechforum/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=226&sid=1cbb1914d35bf2f002812e6bf18e3061 |
| 15:37.15 | nulluser | That's the thread that convinced me, especially the posts by deadhp |
| 16:03.29 | torpor | seems like kernel support is poor .. |
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| 16:06.40 | nulluser | What do you mean? |
| 16:06.55 | nulluser | freescale provides one, as well as the tools and docs |
| 16:07.37 | nulluser | Someone needs to get uboot working, and that should be it, hopefully |
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| 16:46.09 | ManoftheSea | Hey guys. |
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| 16:47.06 | ManoftheSea | I'm having difficulty understanding a bit about this mk802ii. I have it booting from the mele image, and the u-boot included there. I believe that means it's using evb.bin. |
| 16:47.30 | ManoftheSea | However, this limits me to the .5 GB memory of the mele, while the mk802ii is suppsoed to have a full gig. |
| 16:48.05 | ManoftheSea | The script.bin on nanda for the device doesn't specify a memory size. Also, putting script.bin in place of evb.bin (copying it over) makes the device not boot. |
| 16:48.23 | ManoftheSea | Thoughts? |
| 16:48.29 | mnemoc | memory size is hardcoded in the bootloader |
| 16:49.12 | mnemoc | all dram_para values actually |
| 16:49.25 | ManoftheSea | So, I'm stuck until I figure out how to compile a working u-boot? |
| 16:49.45 | ManoftheSea | Any thought on why the "correct" script.bin from the device breaks it? |
| 16:50.17 | mnemoc | you can kidnap it from http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/amery/sunxi-3.0/latest/mk802ii_hwpack.tar.xz |
| 16:50.54 | ManoftheSea | Is this a recent post? I don't recall seeing it last I was looking |
| 16:51.13 | ManoftheSea | thanks mnemoc |
| 16:51.44 | mnemoc | it's not "official"... I push prebuilt hwpacks made with the sunxi-bsp for fun |
| 16:52.07 | mnemoc | that's why the /amery prefix |
| 16:53.31 | mnemoc | and helps me get stuff tested by others :p |
| 16:54.01 | ManoftheSea | Looks like you filled out the values for dram, emac, rtp, and gl? |
| 16:54.15 | mnemoc | http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/amery/testing-3.0/latest/mk802ii_hwpack.tar.xz for example has the hdmi changed to support EDID which aren't official yet |
| 16:54.48 | mnemoc | that script.bin is taken from the sunxi-boards repo |
| 16:54.59 | mnemoc | some boards are more maintained than others |
| 16:55.23 | ManoftheSea | ok. I'm comparing to the script.bin taken directly from my mk802ii. |
| 16:56.15 | mnemoc | sunxi-boards has a version "polished" by Erik Servili |
| 16:56.22 | ManoftheSea | ok. |
| 16:56.24 | ManoftheSea | I'll try it |
| 16:56.53 | ManoftheSea | it should be okay to drop over evb.bin, right? |
| 16:56.55 | mnemoc | https://github.com/linux-sunxi/sunxi-boards/commit/7c62f3222e4c030345694a7b29f321abf3293f0a.patch |
| 16:57.08 | ManoftheSea | or do I need to use the u-boot pieces in that hwpack? |
| 16:57.18 | mnemoc | yes... but it's better if you replace your u-boot and your current u-boot env |
| 16:57.57 | mnemoc | having a u-boot that used evb.bin is a bad quality sign |
| 16:58.01 | mnemoc | sues* |
| 16:58.03 | mnemoc | AARGS |
| 16:58.05 | mnemoc | AARG |
| 16:58.10 | mnemoc | damn. need more coffee |
| 16:58.16 | mnemoc | uses* |
| 16:58.21 | mnemoc | brb |
| 16:59.32 | ManoftheSea | ok. |
| 17:08.11 | ManoftheSea | mnemoc: you compile u-boot with the code Sourcery toolchain? I had failure with gcc 4.7 |
| 17:08.25 | ManoftheSea | is that a bug, or is that expected? |
| 17:08.44 | ManoftheSea | well, specifically arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc-4.7 |
| 17:09.52 | mnemoc | ManoftheSea: no, I'm lazy. I use linaro's 4.6 on ubuntu |
| 17:10.28 | mnemoc | want to get a working oe this weekened, that will force 4.7 on me |
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| 17:11.07 | ManoftheSea | It seems to compile okay, I just can't get it to boot afterward. I am still waiting on UART access, but nulluser pointed me at the correct pads. |
| 17:11.14 | torpor | hey speaking of EDID, is there some way to tell the MK802 to use 1366x768 instead of 1280? On my lapdock its scaling, and thats .. annoying .. |
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| 17:11.39 | torpor | also, hardfp? where is that at? |
| 17:12.01 | ManoftheSea | torpor: is that at me? |
| 17:12.12 | torpor | no, mnemoc |
| 17:12.13 | ManoftheSea | I think the resolution is an option in the script.bin. |
| 17:12.25 | torpor | thats supposed to be in /boot, right? |
| 17:12.28 | mnemoc | torpor: try the stage branch, or the "testing" hwpacks |
| 17:12.39 | ManoftheSea | at least, I remember seeing 800 x 480, and 1280 x 768 |
| 17:12.56 | torpor | i guess i need to work out what to use as far as GLES acceleration is concerned .. still the allwinner distro, or something? |
| 17:13.04 | mnemoc | hansg added edid, 1366x768 and 1280x1024 |
| 17:13.16 | ManoftheSea | oh hey cool... "MemTotal: 833240 kB" |
| 17:16.08 | ManoftheSea | mnemoc: any consideration of packaging the proprietary libraries into a .deb? |
| 17:18.58 | mnemoc | we do have repos for the proprietary libraries. feel free to add `make deb` there |
| 17:19.13 | ManoftheSea | I'll look for and attempt to do so. |
| 17:20.13 | ManoftheSea | you don't include the rtl8192 firmware? |
| 17:20.52 | mnemoc | file an issue on the sunxi-bsp package :p |
| 17:21.05 | ManoftheSea | hmm, help me understand... lib{Mali,UMP}.so need to be built for a specific kernel, right? |
| 17:21.05 | mnemoc | repo |
| 17:21.33 | ManoftheSea | Well, the firmware is available from debian's "non-free" repo already. I assume Ubuntu has something similar. |
| 17:21.38 | mnemoc | not for an specific kernel, but for an specific mali/ump kernel version driver |
| 17:21.47 | mnemoc | kernel driver version* |
| 17:22.05 | mnemoc | r3p0 in our case |
| 17:22.08 | ManoftheSea | And that kernel driver is part of the linux-sunxi tree? I'mma check my menuconfig |
| 17:22.20 | mnemoc | yes, CONFIG_MALI=m |
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| 17:39.31 | ManoftheSea | so, having had a look at the /lib/modules, it looks like the proprietary stuff is just ./framebuffer/lib{Mali,UMP}.so and ./x11/lib{Mali,UMP}.so |
| 17:39.47 | mnemoc | and cedarx |
| 17:40.03 | ManoftheSea | I didn't see that one in the hwpack. Where should I look? |
| 17:40.42 | ManoftheSea | oh, derp. libvecore? |
| 17:40.47 | mnemoc | yes |
| 17:41.26 | ManoftheSea | cool. |
| 17:43.05 | ManoftheSea | hmm, I see lcd and hdmi are =y, not =m. Does it break it? Like, wifi cards that need firmware need to be =m, right? |
| 17:43.45 | mnemoc | you usually want fb stuff to be built-in so you get earlier access |
| 17:44.02 | ManoftheSea | ok. |
| 17:44.12 | ManoftheSea | Well, now to find an HDMI tv to try this on. |
| 17:44.16 | ManoftheSea | I'm off for now. |
| 17:44.25 | ManoftheSea | thanks again for the help, mnemoc. |
| 17:44.38 | mnemoc | wifi is something more... assorted, more options, more firmwares, complex setup, etc.... so m fits better |
| 17:44.39 | ManoftheSea | Also, do you know if gnexus is on here by another name or something? |
| 17:44.51 | mnemoc | no idea |
| 17:45.11 | mnemoc | I only saw him the day he came to announce his forum and left |
| 17:45.11 | ManoftheSea | A lot of the google searches end up at his posts. they're helpful. Also to you, and cnx |
| 17:46.20 | ManoftheSea | hmm, I think I'm going to repartition my uSD to get a home partition... Let's backup first! |
| 17:46.22 | ManoftheSea | bye for now |
| 17:46.46 | mnemoc | bye |
| 18:00.46 | ManoftheSea | mmm... Kinda want to put the rootfs on the device nand and make it read-only by default, then put /var and /home on the sdcard... |
| 18:01.02 | ManoftheSea | later. |
| 18:03.51 | mnemoc | unless you have a very crappy uSD card, the NAND will be slower and wear out faster |
| 18:08.25 | mnemoc | but a good uSD card is several times more expensive than the NAND chips these devices use |
| 18:18.01 | WarheadsSE | mnemoc rz2k techn_ : looks like someone sent ALARM an A13 :) |
| 18:18.21 | mnemoc | olimex? |
| 18:18.26 | WarheadsSE | aye |
| 18:18.31 | mnemoc | cool |
| 18:18.47 | WarheadsSE | I'll be foreced to get the kernel up to date now :P |
| 18:18.55 | mnemoc | hehehe |
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| 18:26.57 | ManoftheSea | well, I'd be doing the read-only filesystem to nand. But I guess I wouldn't be gaining, from what you said. |
| 18:26.59 | ManoftheSea | Okay. |
| 18:32.05 | mnemoc | ManoftheSea: the gain is to be able to use the uSD as removable storage |
| 18:32.20 | ManoftheSea | mnemoc: sure, but I suppose I can already do that. |
| 18:32.27 | ManoftheSea | I've got an 8 GB card. |
| 18:32.42 | ManoftheSea | Root fs is only 600 MB now (no X11, yet) |
| 18:32.53 | ManoftheSea | I expect I'll end up using 2 GB for it. |
| 18:33.13 | ManoftheSea | but I'm gonna be storing real media on the network. |
| 18:33.39 | ManoftheSea | I'll keep thinking on it, but it currently looks like more work than gain |
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| 18:53.46 | Turl | servili007: ping |
| 18:53.59 | servili007 | Turl: pong |
| 18:54.10 | Turl | servili007: hey :) |
| 18:54.23 | servili007 | hey, what's up? |
| 18:54.27 | Turl | servili007: I saw you pushed an empty commit to the repo |
| 18:55.03 | servili007 | Turl: right, I was just resetting the original commit because I accidentally destroyed the history in the process |
| 18:55.16 | servili007 | Turl: and then it got late and I decided to leave it for today |
| 18:55.27 | Turl | ouch |
| 18:55.29 | Turl | ok, no hurry |
| 18:55.57 | servili007 | Turl: Also adding a couple of things to the framework config and looking into adding a soft power button |
| 18:56.09 | servili007 | Oh, that reminds me |
| 18:57.34 | servili007 | The hdmi output is underscanning a bit, and obviously i havent ported over the settings to change it, but I'm not seeing where to hard code it yet. ADB shows |
| 18:58.00 | servili007 | D/SystemServer( 154): display area ratio = 95 |
| 18:58.00 | servili007 | D/chen ( 154): DisplayManager.setDisplayAreaPercent(displayno=0,percent=95 |
| 18:58.00 | servili007 | D/display ( 86): ####display_setareapercent:screen:0,percent:95 |
| 18:58.23 | servili007 | that's stock, but I think CM10 is doing the same thing, I'll verify soon |
| 19:07.27 | techn_ | hansg: Hi, did you check my repo? |
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| 19:15.31 | mnemoc | techn_: can you port your edid stuff on top of stage/sunxi-3.x? :) |
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| 19:16.24 | revident | ping xenoxaos |
| 19:18.28 | techn_ | mnemoc: Yep.. I was thinking so |
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| 19:18.47 | techn_ | but it will render some of the code useless :/ |
| 19:19.05 | techn_ | ..which Hans has added |
| 19:19.57 | mnemoc | maybe the sysfs part first? |
| 19:20.10 | mnemoc | to easy troubleshooting etc |
| 19:20.56 | techn_ | Yep.. that would be nice.. It will require only ~10 line changes ;p |
| 19:21.40 | mnemoc | and what are you waiting for? ;-) |
| 19:22.10 | techn_ | .. already merging .. :) |
| 19:22.19 | mnemoc | :) |
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| 19:33.54 | WarheadsSE | revident: sup |
| 19:34.04 | nulluser | I finally put a power supply on that mini xplus based robot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSuY33Z1bBQ |
| 19:34.34 | nulluser | Basically done, waiting for a better dc-dc converter, and I need to put the IMU and sensors on. But as a proof of concept it's done |
| 19:35.10 | revident | Hello WarheadsSE I know you and xenoxaos have been working on Arch for the APC, I noted the recent code release and new binaries, have either of you had time to look over the changes? I'm wonder what's still broken/missing |
| 19:35.53 | WarheadsSE | I actually haven't, I've been busy hunting $$ work |
| 19:36.02 | WarheadsSE | whole, sitting on unemployment too long. |
| 19:36.20 | revident | no worries then |
| 19:37.12 | Turl | nice nulluser |
| 19:38.15 | nulluser | thanks |
| 19:40.31 | Turl | nulluser: what's the resolution on the video feed btw? |
| 19:42.16 | nulluser | The camera is good to 1280 x 720 at 30fps |
| 19:42.28 | nulluser | but the wifi modules is not happy about sustaining that for too long |
| 19:43.05 | nulluser | That's about 36Mbs |
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| 19:44.46 | nulluser | Here is a screen cap at HD: http://www.junklet.net/test/screen_hd.jpg |
| 19:45.06 | nulluser | Was only getting 17 fps there for some reason, might have had it clocked down, or some network problems |
| 19:46.58 | mnemoc | weird window manager you have there... |
| 19:48.47 | nulluser | That's just a screen cap of the application |
| 19:49.14 | nulluser | unless you are looking at something else |
| 19:49.57 | mnemoc | the window decoration... haven't seen that style in like 15y |
| 19:50.19 | nulluser | ha |
| 19:51.29 | mnemoc | it's like you were using some evil crappy proprietary OS there |
| 19:56.25 | nulluser | Yeah I'm more familiar with win32 programming, and the IDE for my microcontroller does not run on linux |
| 20:01.03 | nulluser | I am working on an android client, but it's going to b a while |
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| 20:12.31 | hansg | techn_, no I did not look at your repo yet. TBH I'm not really interested in dynamic mode changing, as this will require stopping and re-starting the X-server which is not really user-friendly. |
| 20:12.48 | hansg | techn_, IMHO for proper dynamic mode support a kms driver is what we need. |
| 20:15.30 | techn_ | hansg: check that.. that isnt so many lines of code after your changes |
| 20:16.09 | techn_ | I'll submit first feature that allows user to list edid modes via sysfs |
| 20:16.50 | hansg | ok |
| 20:16.56 | techn_ | but sure.. some parts are much easier to rewrite than modify |
| 20:17.20 | hansg | I'm not saying a rewrite is easier, but it is necessary :) |
| 20:17.38 | techn_ | but some could be nice just to move to kms driver.. |
| 20:17.55 | hansg | Yes. |
| 20:18.08 | mnemoc | iirc libv's idea was to refactor toward kms |
| 20:18.08 | hansg | Anyways I've got to go. I'm looking forward to your patches, I'll try to make some time to review them once you've posted them |
| 20:20.06 | hansg | mnemoc, interesting. TBH I plan to sort of wrap my EDID work up, then I've some other small itches to scratch... |
| 20:20.56 | hansg | Mainly making the memory reservation code more dynamic, so that one kernel can be used by users who don't care about the VE and by users who do care, with-out the users who do't care loosing 80MB (which is esp. important on 512MB machines) |
| 20:21.08 | hansg | After that I plan to focus on getting the USB code in better shape, since that is more my area of expertise. Once the USB code is in shape, who knows what I'll tackle next... |
| 20:22.04 | hansg | But as said, I've got to go now, I'll see you all again later. |
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| 22:00.17 | penguin42 | https://plus.google.com/u/0/101093310520661581786/posts/cdPnNjLAb4F interesting collection of tails of problems with exynos |
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| 23:27.43 | ManoftheSea | haha, and now my mk802ii can auth users based on my internet-facing LDAP server. |
| 23:27.59 | ManoftheSea | Now, to set up user directories on the cloud... |
| 23:28.20 | ManoftheSea | I gotta say, I do not understand why people buy thin-clients for ~$300... |
| 23:28.31 | ManoftheSea | when an odroid is only $120. |
| 23:28.35 | nulluser | You got a gui on it? |
| 23:29.03 | ManoftheSea | I don't have a tv or monitor in the house with an HDMI in. |
| 23:29.11 | ManoftheSea | (At the relatives for christmas.) |
| 23:29.33 | ManoftheSea | I'm using wifi ad-hoc as my ssh into the mk802ii. |
| 23:29.39 | nulluser | I had to borrow one |
| 23:29.53 | ManoftheSea | I realize, now that I say this, that this is kludgy as heck, and yet it moves. |
| 23:29.55 | nulluser | Didn't try ah hoc or ap mode. Ap mode is really what I need |
| 23:29.58 | ManoftheSea | Yay open-source community. |
| 23:30.13 | ManoftheSea | nulluser: on the mk802? I have 2 wifi cards in my laptop. |
| 23:30.22 | nulluser | real products are too, it's just behind a layer of polish ;) |
| 23:30.28 | ManoftheSea | SPECIFICALLY so I can do a wifi bridge. This is the first it's ever been useful, though. |
| 23:31.08 | nulluser | I'm running a different wifi module than the 8192 now, it's an ralink 2800, ap should be ok |
| 23:31.20 | nulluser | I got my project running today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSuY33Z1bBQ |
| 23:31.27 | ManoftheSea | oh. Well, cool. But you want your armstick to be the AP? |
| 23:31.30 | nulluser | Need to polish up some loose ense and it's a done deal |
| 23:31.34 | nulluser | yeah |
| 23:31.41 | nulluser | I want to connect to that with the android phone |
| 23:32.13 | nulluser | be a lot easier if it was just an AP, you connect it gives you an IP, then you start the client |
| 23:33.27 | nulluser | I really like these arm boards, a hell of a lot of power in a small space. An absurd amount of power really, it's crazy |
| 23:33.49 | nulluser | When I first started making this stuff I had to use a complete PC or laptop to have a chance of getting enough power |
| 23:36.36 | nulluser | bbl |
| 23:52.17 | ManoftheSea | Sorry for delay. I agree. I see the ODroid, and I'm blown away. |
| 23:52.30 | ManoftheSea | Yes, the price is creeping up, but it's still a lot of power in a very small space. |
| 23:53.00 | ManoftheSea | It's really cool that Luke's been trying to get better support for this space and Linux. |
| 23:53.12 | ManoftheSea | Real linux. I don't know Android that well. |
| 23:57.23 | *** join/#arm-netbook freakazoid0223 (~matt@pool-173-75-233-172.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) |
| 23:58.04 | penguin42 | ManoftheSea: Hey, have a kernel and a graphics driver and the userspace will be happy |
| 23:59.26 | ManoftheSea | penguin42: what? |
| 23:59.37 | penguin42 | ManoftheSea: Well the 'real linux' vs Android |
| 23:59.58 | ManoftheSea | Debian GNU/Linux is the one true way, the light and the path, yadda yadda have a beer. |
