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04:38.36 | Alex1269 | I'm working on gpio driver for sunxi3,0/3.4. I think the "right way" to implement it is to use gpiolib. But gpiolib doesn't support attributes for pin drive_level/pull/mode_select. Is there any reasons against extending gpiolib ? |
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07:48.04 | oliv3r | Alex1269: could it be that 3.4 is just to old? |
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08:13.15 | mripard | Alex1269: that's the role of pinctrl, not gpiolib |
08:48.52 | mnemoc | mripard: he is implementing it for the "legacy" script.bin based 3.0/3.4 tree |
08:48.55 | oliv3r | anybody has started to work on pinctrl? I was thinking of playing alittle with it today |
08:49.12 | mnemoc | pinctrl with script.bin is a nightmare |
08:49.42 | mnemoc | and iirc not available for 3.0 |
08:50.27 | oliv3r | i ment for 3.4-3.8 |
08:51.07 | mnemoc | oliv3r: in 3.8+ it's already done properly |
08:52.27 | mnemoc | the only point of re-implementing gpio properly would be to bring that to 3.0/3.4 people, not further |
08:53.14 | mnemoc | properly in 3.0 terms obvisly. |
08:53.31 | oliv3r | mnemoc: i ment for sunxi |
08:53.43 | oliv3r | i don't think i saw anything for the A10 and pinctrl |
08:53.57 | mnemoc | oliv3r: it will go into 3.9 |
08:54.05 | mnemoc | oliv3r: mripard already submited that |
08:55.45 | oliv3r | ah, i didn't see any of that on the 'mainlining effort' wiki |
08:55.59 | oliv3r | nor on our git tree i don't think :( |
08:56.11 | mnemoc | that stuff lives in arm-soc's tree |
08:56.17 | oliv3r | ah kewl |
08:56.31 | oliv3r | well it would have helped if the wiki reflected that mripard :p |
08:56.41 | mnemoc | +1 |
08:56.43 | oliv3r | i was getting all excited about looking into that, as it seemed reasonable easy :( |
08:58.06 | mnemoc | in the legacy *cough* tree we only need to turn the current gpio-ugly driver into one using the proper (by 3.0 standards) class |
08:58.28 | mnemoc | to give decent gpio support to people needing it today |
09:00.01 | oliv3r | why, WHY won't php output any error? Just Why. E_ALL and error reporting is obviously enabled :S |
09:00.18 | mnemoc | o_O |
09:00.22 | oliv3r | google is FULL of people not having that on :S so all that doesn't help |
09:00.55 | oliv3r | i assumed that E_ALL would always output all errors. phpinfo(); even lists E_ALL and display_errors as on; yet no error output, no output at all |
09:01.49 | mnemoc | anything I need to change in the sunxi wiki? |
09:06.09 | mnemoc | Alex1269: even if the gpiolib-based sunxi-gpio only supports reading and writing values it will be a great win for people runing sunxi devices with pins today |
09:07.53 | mnemoc | Alex1269: for more complex stuff (as mripard said) it's pinctrl, but that effort isn't that much needed because setup is assumed to be done on the script.bin file |
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09:12.54 | oliv3r | mnemoc: na, this is my own test box :( |
09:14.04 | mnemoc | so you do php intentionaly??? very sorry for you |
09:26.07 | oliv3r | lol I have a mysql and postgres test database requirement, and wanted to install myphp and mypg-admin; pg admin works fine , myphpadmin doesn't do anything and since i don't get error output, i can't figure out why or what could be missing |
09:29.41 | oliv3r | hmm, maybe php was outputting errors, but phpmyadmin wasn't producing output! *facepalm* |
09:32.04 | mripard | mnemoc: I'll try to update the wiki today |
09:35.52 | mnemoc | mripard: thanks! |
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10:33.28 | slapin | oliv3r: php allows apps to disable output, and many apps can't work with it enabled (as they use wicked output caching schemes). |
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10:45.05 | oliv3r | slapin: aye, but it's not obvious and not documented why phpmyadmin does it :S so i have to experiment as to find out why it's not dumping _any_ info _anywhere_ |
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11:13.15 | Alex1269_ | Ok, I'll write simple read/write/irq gpio driver (for gpiolib) using [gpio_para] fex section and then i'm going to add drive_level/pull attributes to gpiolib for myself |
11:20.11 | mnemoc | Alex1269: send it too, but on a separated commit please |
11:20.31 | Alex1269_ | Ok. As for 3.8+... Is is usable ? |
11:21.05 | mnemoc | for 3.8+ it won't be accepted, they use pinmux for that |
11:21.55 | Alex1269_ | No... i'm asking about whole 3.8 version. Is it usable for production? |
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11:25.48 | Alex1269_ | For example for automation server: gpio controlable hardware, i2c sensors, several rs232, nginx+php+mysql (on sata ssd), usb 3g modem for SMSing, one camera |
11:26.02 | mripard | Alex1269: support is quite minimal for now |
11:26.15 | mripard | we only have interrupts, timers and UARTs support in 3.8 |
11:26.36 | mripard | in 3.9, we will (I hope) have pinctrl and gpios, and maybe clocks |
11:27.55 | mripard | it would be great to begin to have storage devices support in 3.10 |
11:28.23 | mripard | SPI and I2C as well, so that we can begin to have something actually useful |
11:29.00 | Alex1269_ | So 3.0 stable, 3.4 devel, 3.8 - experimental... Right? |
11:31.52 | mripard | yes |
11:33.34 | mnemoc | Alex1269: but "3.8" isn't a fixed target, it just happened to be the next once the mainlining began. currently the goal is 3.9 and so on |
11:34.14 | ssvb | what would be the next long term support kernel after 3.4? |
11:34.30 | mnemoc | ssvb: mainline |
11:34.47 | mnemoc | ah, you mean theirs... 3.8 I guess |
11:35.39 | mnemoc | odd numbers have never get much favour |
11:36.40 | ssvb | actually I like the idea of always having something that just works :) after tracking the status of omap support in the mainline, I get an impression that something is always broken there |
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11:37.35 | mnemoc | :) |
11:38.40 | slapin | ssvb: for my boards omap generally works, as they improved their testing under rmk's pressure |
11:40.24 | mnemoc | mripard: will try to merge i2c and spi drivers from the source drops and then clean them this weekend, for 3.0/3.4 and then to be adapted for dt |
11:42.35 | mripard | mnemoc: ok, great |
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15:36.58 | slapin | hi, all! |
15:37.31 | slapin | do anybody knows the link to bypass mentor's registration page to download toolchain? |
15:37.39 | slapin | or something? |
15:39.13 | mnemoc | googling for the file name tends to help |
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15:43.04 | WarheadsSE | <PROTECTED> |
15:43.35 | mnemoc | a toolchain that requires registration to download I assumed |
15:44.21 | mnemoc | new owner of CodeSourcery |
15:44.25 | rz2k | mentorgraphics bought codesourcery |
15:44.30 | rz2k | year or so ago |
15:44.37 | rz2k | you need to enter email to get the link |
15:45.48 | mnemoc | and that link has a token or it's something we can link? |
15:46.18 | rz2k | token :( |
15:47.08 | mnemoc | so, someone grabs it, and then we upload to dl.linux-sunxi.org? :) still gpl isn;t it? |
15:49.22 | WarheadsSE | mmm.... I have my own toolchain |
15:49.37 | rz2k | no idea if it is GPL or whatever, I use linaro's toolchain and selfcompiled by ct-ng |
15:49.54 | WarheadsSE | basically the same |
15:50.25 | WarheadsSE | although with glibc 2.17/gcc 4.7.2 there is a glitch at the moment with ld.so.cache not being properly used |
15:51.05 | WarheadsSE | linaro's patch apparently borks on proper indexing w/ flags of the hardfloat eabi in use, cause failure. Simply patch for the time being is to export LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
15:51.26 | WarheadsSE | http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15006 |
15:52.09 | mnemoc | uses linaro's. it's only an apt-get install away for me |
15:52.41 | WarheadsSE | Ah, if only I used a debian based system ... :P |
15:52.50 | mnemoc | :) |
15:52.52 | WarheadsSE | Psst, theirs is broken too |
16:00.34 | slapin | mnemoc: no ppa support for debian :( |
16:05.14 | WarheadsSE | shouldn't stop you from manually grabbing it, no? |
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16:08.10 | slapin | WarheadsSE: I'm too lazy for that things... and I think it is binary-incompatible with debian. |
16:08.28 | WarheadsSE | orly |
16:08.29 | mnemoc | having different lxc-based build servers is easier :) |
16:11.16 | specing | wasn't able to get LXC to run |
16:11.33 | slapin | mnemoc: work build servers do fine, but I want to compile various things on localhost, and Denx people say my toolchain, which is based on OE, which is based on Linaro, is b0rked. |
16:11.51 | specing | mnemoc: could package Gentoo's toolchain |
16:12.07 | WarheadsSE | has complete packages chain set. |
16:12.11 | slapin | mnemoc: I tried to install eldk, but it is non-relocatable and wants to go in /opt which is no-no at my side. |
16:12.37 | WarheadsSE | you just need the v7? hardfloat or not? |
16:12.56 | specing | armv7a-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi- ? |
16:13.04 | slapin | CodeSourcery is relocatable, but I don't have version for 64-bit host, and it is dated. |
16:13.32 | WarheadsSE | http://archlinuxarm.org/developers/distcc-cross-compiling - has link for armv7l, relocatable, 64bit host |
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16:13.55 | slapin | specing: I need to build for lots of variants, including arm7tdmi, armv5te, armv7a/7a-hf, with newlib and with glibc. |
16:13.56 | WarheadsSE | the chain itself is not Arch specific. We have many people using it on ubuntu. |
16:14.17 | WarheadsSE | doesn't have armv7tdmi |
16:15.18 | specing | slapin: get Gentoo |
16:15.31 | slapin | WarheadsSE: arm7tdmi is mmu-less fpu-less v4t |
16:15.47 | slapin | specing: my devel pc is too slow for that |
16:15.54 | WarheadsSE | i know what it is :P |
16:16.36 | specing | slapin: even if you bootstrap a toolchain in qemu-arm it only takes like a day on 800 MHz |
16:16.39 | slapin | WarheadsSE: tegra contains arm7tdmi with mmu, which is weird thing |
16:16.47 | specing | slapin: just let it run overnight |
16:17.09 | WarheadsSE | slapin: eeww |
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16:17.39 | slapin | specing: I have better things for it to do than compile toolchains |
16:17.51 | WarheadsSE | well that took gentoo ~ 28 minutes to compile nodejs on an amd64 vm.. sheesh |
16:18.04 | slapin | WarheadsSE: it is service processor to bootstrap real cores |
16:18.29 | WarheadsSE | Yeah, not the first time I have seen that kind of implementation |
16:18.52 | specing | slapin: Gentoo comes with a toolchain building program |
16:18.59 | slapin | it seems I need to bug someone from mentor - to death, if nothing else helps :( |
16:19.20 | specing | Or Gentoo |
16:19.39 | slapin | specing: I know, and I know about crosstool-ng, too. And I build OE SDK all day everyday on work build farm. |
16:20.25 | slapin | I need something I can point people on and say - this is respectable toolchain, and your stuff fails to build on it, please fix it. |
16:20.46 | slapin | I can't give off-the-ground sdks in such case |
16:21.01 | WarheadsSE | mm |
16:21.28 | WarheadsSE | well, aside from the tdmi, our chains are known to work, since we build all of ALARM on them via distcc. |
16:22.06 | slapin | well, this is not that, my toolchains build everything allright, too |
16:22.46 | WarheadsSE | so what is broken then |
16:23.10 | slapin | binaries size is twice the maximal allowed |
16:23.37 | slapin | linaro-toolchain-is-always-broken motto is there, too. |
16:26.50 | WarheadsSE | slapin: holy crap |
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16:27.01 | WarheadsSE | for uboot? |
16:27.34 | WarheadsSE | your outputted uboot.bin is how big!? |
16:34.07 | TestModule_ | is 3.4 stable, and is there a defconfig ? |
16:34.57 | mnemoc | TestModule_: context please |
16:35.44 | TestModule_ | the 3.4 kernel |
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17:18.31 | slapin | WarheadsSE: for some boards expected size is 256K, result size is 400K |
17:19.10 | WarheadsSE | definitely odd that it is coming up that large. |
17:20.38 | WarheadsSE | almost wonder if it is attempting to leave some debug information in there. |
17:27.54 | Turl | you can try the codesourcery toolchains |
17:30.54 | WarheadsSE | I think that is his issue |
17:31.02 | WarheadsSE | not wanting to register with mentor |
17:37.43 | mnemoc | if someone already did, we can push it to dl.linux-sunxi.org and link there |
17:38.48 | mnemoc | I'm only consuming 200G of the 10TB/M |
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17:56.33 | nemik | hi, which branch of linux-sunxi should i use to compile a kernel module (for bluetooth) to run on the 'stock' Android image? |
17:58.04 | mnemoc | the default, sunxi-3.0 |
17:58.32 | mnemoc | sun4i_crane_defconfig for A10 or a13_nuclear_defconfig for A13 |
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18:00.57 | nemik | mnemoc: ok cool, thank you. and those modules will then work even on the 3.0.8 lichee kernel inside the stock ones? |
18:02.20 | slapin | sourcery.mentor.com/public/gnu_toolchain/ is open, but not adverticed... |
18:02.20 | mnemoc | no |
18:02.33 | mnemoc | slapin: wiki wiki :) |
18:03.02 | mnemoc | nemik: i was assuming you were going to replace the whole kernel |
18:04.24 | nemik | mnemoc: no, i'd like to keep it all the same and just insmod the bluetooth stuff on startup so it could work with a bluetooth USB module for serial |
18:04.24 | mnemoc | nemik: there is a lichee something branch, but isn't really maintained. not sure if it compiles at all |
18:05.18 | nemik | ah ok, yea that's probably the one i'd need then. as cheap as these little units are they're a giant pain to work with |
18:12.59 | hno | nemik, further, to acutally work you need the kernel .config and any other relevant modifications your device vendor have done. 3.0.8 != 3.0.8. |
18:13.15 | hno | but might work anyway. |
18:16.39 | slapin | mnemoc: I'm not a wiki person, you know |
18:17.19 | slapin | mnemoc: you can ask oliv3r :-P |
18:17.42 | mnemoc | slapin: just drop the link into http://linux-sunxi.org/Codesourcery :) |
18:19.25 | slapin | mnemoc: done |
18:19.34 | slapin | mnemoc: looks bad |
18:19.53 | slapin | mnemoc: OMG, I've got a headache, no more such things :( |
18:20.01 | mnemoc | slapin: well... that's not a url |
18:20.13 | mnemoc | slapin: ftp:// or http:// missing |
18:20.22 | nemik | hno: it's too much to futz around with, especially for something i'd like to distribute. probably better than to just buy ug007's or whatever with bluetooth built in |
18:21.37 | slapin | mnemoc: it asks questions out of sudden |
18:21.46 | slapin | mnemoc: done |
18:22.01 | slapin | mnemoc: still looks bad, though |
18:23.55 | mnemoc | slapin: * [http:.... blah blah] --> <li><a...>blah blah</a></li> |
18:35.01 | slapin | mnemoc: can't do that now, sorry - need to go |
18:36.19 | mnemoc | :) |
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20:08.23 | RaYmAn | heh, damn. Looks like my gk802 got caught in customs :( |
20:08.50 | RaYmAn | but at least that means it was sent and is in my country! |
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20:12.09 | WarheadsSE | lol |
20:12.11 | WarheadsSE | true |
20:13.49 | mnemoc | good news then :) |
20:14.13 | RaYmAn | I'll probably end up paying like 50$ in taxes and processing fees |
20:14.15 | RaYmAn | :/ |
20:14.29 | mnemoc | bad news then :( |
20:14.35 | RaYmAn | indeed |
20:14.38 | RaYmAn | can't win them all |
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20:26.04 | rm | RaYmAn, any weird shipping method? |
20:26.09 | rm | like DHL/FedEx? |
20:26.50 | RaYmAn | nope |
20:27.05 | RaYmAn | singapore post with tracking |
20:27.16 | RaYmAn | if they declared it 100$ that will probably be why |
20:28.34 | br- | rm: eek, the expensive methods tend to get picked up more often? |
20:28.54 | rm | absolutely! |
20:29.07 | RaYmAn | usually (depending on country probably), the courier explicitly asks for tax processing |
20:29.09 | rm | DHL/FedEx love to throw you under the bus with customs |
20:29.20 | RaYmAn | it's not a matter of whether or not they get 'caught', they offer up your good s:P |
20:29.22 | rm | that's everyone's experience here |
20:29.25 | br- | that may explain why my mele never made it here |
20:29.50 | RaYmAn | usually here, they just pay the charges then charge it on delivery |
20:30.08 | br- | estonian customs refused the import due to lack of CE mark |
20:30.16 | RaYmAn | ah |
20:30.27 | br- | i tried the 'its for parts' thing, didnt work |
20:30.28 | mnemoc | my mele has CE marking |
20:30.37 | br- | fucker sent me a pdf of the law (in estonian) |
20:30.49 | br- | mnemoc: on the actual device? when did you order it and what model |
20:30.49 | rm | someone had their Ben Nanonote held on customs with FedEx, because it was "not a certified encryption device" |
20:30.55 | rm | Russian |
20:31.18 | mnemoc | no, the device hasn't. the power adapter and the packing |
20:31.39 | br- | mnemoc: according to customs, there was a CE mark on the documentation, but regulations require it on the device itself |
20:31.47 | mnemoc | ic |
20:31.48 | br- | funny, because my macbook and nexus one have no such marks |
20:31.56 | br- | fuckers just wanted to take it home |
20:32.04 | mnemoc | :) |
20:32.33 | br- | arguing about the law with someone via google translate over email doesn't work very well |
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21:59.15 | techn_ | drachensun: http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/input/touchscreen/edt-ft5x06.c this seems to be same as our ft5x_ts :/ |
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22:00.21 | mnemoc | what that 'edt-' means? |
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22:21.31 | drachensun | techn_: interesting, he has set __set_bit(EV_SYN, input->evbit); also |
22:21.56 | drachensun | mnemoc: This is a driver for the EDT "Polytouch" family of touch controllers |
22:21.56 | drachensun | <PROTECTED> |
22:22.08 | drachensun | mnemoc: thats a quote from the header |
22:22.31 | drachensun | so it might be a little different |
22:27.37 | TestModule | a10_mid_1gb.fex = MK802 1GB / + ? |
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22:57.00 | drachensun | techn_: I'm still not sure how it gets the x and y at init and it doesn't seem to have support for swapping or inversion like our driver |
22:58.27 | drachensun | but I guess it does make it unlikely any work on it will go upstream |
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