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| 15:14.09 | *** topic/#asterisk-bugs is Asterisk Bugs Discussion -=- http://bugs.digium.com/ -=- http://asterisk.org/developers/bug-guidelines - Asterisk 1.4.11 has been released (August 21, 2007). -=- If you are not discussing a report already posted to the bugtracker, the discussion probably belongs in #asterisk. -=- Goodbye 1.2. We'll miss you. Maybe. -=- Overall bug count: < 340 |
| 15:14.39 | *** join/#asterisk-bugs TimRiker (n=timr@pdpc/supporter/bronze/TimRiker) |
| 15:14.53 | Corydon76-dig | Morning, TimRiker |
| 15:14.56 | TimRiker | infobot: save |
| 15:14.56 | infobot | saved user and chan files |
| 15:15.03 | TimRiker | moin |
| 15:15.09 | russellb | TimRiker: you rock |
| 15:15.22 | file | TimRiker: and roll |
| 15:15.26 | TimRiker | I try. :) |
| 15:16.19 | TimRiker | if Someone(tm) was bored they could add a module to ibot to lookup bugs on the web. :) |
| 15:16.53 | Corydon76-dig | and lose muffinman? |
| 15:17.01 | file | MuffinMan would be out of a job :( |
| 15:17.04 | russellb | MuffinMan: we still love you |
| 15:17.07 | TimRiker | hehe |
| 15:17.11 | putnopvut | He could go back to being a muffin man. |
| 15:17.25 | russellb | M10123 |
| 15:17.29 | MuffinMan | [closed] [Asterisk] Resources/res_musiconhold 0010123: MusicOnHold() drops the channel if the specified class does not exist reported by blitzrage http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=10123 |
| 15:18.00 | TimRiker | is there an rss feed for recent bugs? ibot has rss support. |
| 15:18.08 | Qwell | I think there is now, actually |
| 15:19.07 | russellb | i don't remember where to find it |
| 15:19.11 | jsmith | Oh? I was using the one from CIA, which now doesn't work |
| 15:19.14 | Qwell | http://bugs.digium.com/news_rss.php?project_id=0 |
| 15:19.17 | Qwell | main page, at the bottom :) |
| 15:19.26 | russellb | but that's for news |
| 15:19.26 | russellb | lame |
| 15:19.26 | Qwell | oh, that's news rss |
| 15:19.37 | TimRiker | ~rss http://bugs.digium.com/news_rss.php?project_id=0 |
| 15:20.03 | Qwell | that VERY rarely changes |
| 15:20.11 | TimRiker | heh |
| 15:20.25 | Qwell | issues_rss |
| 15:20.38 | Qwell | http://bugs.digium.com/issues_rss.php |
| 15:20.47 | russellb | ~rss http://bugs.digium.com/issues_rss.php |
| 15:20.56 | Qwell | with project_id= |
| 15:21.04 | Qwell | or without for all, I guess |
| 15:22.06 | TimRiker | ~asteriskbugs is <reply> see http://bugs.digium.com/issues_rss.php?project_id=0 |
| 15:22.06 | infobot | TimRiker: okay |
| 15:22.13 | TimRiker | ~asteriskbugs |
| 15:22.32 | Qwell | ~~asteriskbugs |
| 15:22.39 | Qwell | oh! |
| 15:22.45 | TimRiker | hmm.. that should have worked. |
| 15:22.48 | Qwell | TimRiker: Can you unlock the "twisted" factoid? |
| 15:22.52 | TimRiker | ohh,,, |
| 15:23.00 | Qwell | he locked it ages ago, and was trying to change it yesterday and couldn't, heh |
| 15:23.12 | TimRiker | infobot: no, asteriskbugs is <reply> see rss http://bugs.digium.com/issues_rss.php?project_id=0 |
| 15:23.13 | infobot | okay, TimRiker |
| 15:23.20 | Corydon76-dig | ~twisted |
| 15:23.21 | infobot | well, twisted is twisted@indigent-networks.com, but you can paypal him at toastido@toastido.net |
| 15:23.24 | TimRiker | ~asteriskbugs |
| 15:23.43 | Qwell | err, nice |
| 15:23.54 | Qwell | id=0 is zaptel though.. |
| 15:24.02 | TimRiker | oh. |
| 15:24.16 | Qwell | oh, nm |
| 15:24.18 | Qwell | no it isn't |
| 15:24.27 | TimRiker | ~literal twisted |
| 15:24.28 | infobot | "twisted" is "twisted@indigent-networks.com, but you can paypal him at toastido@toastido.net" |
| 15:24.29 | Qwell | 0 is all I guess |
| 15:24.38 | TimRiker | ~factinfo twisted |
| 15:24.38 | infobot | twisted -- last modified at Sun May 9 02:43:51 2004 by twisted!~twisted@lebanon-24-159-26-5.midtn.chartertn.net; it has been requested 59 times, last by Corydon76-dig, 1m 17s ago; it has been locked by twisted. |
| 15:24.49 | TimRiker | ~unlock twisted |
| 15:24.49 | infobot | unlocking factoid twisted, TimRiker |
| 15:25.18 | Qwell | thanks, I'll poke him |
| 15:25.28 | Corydon76-dig | Qwell: kinky |
| 15:25.56 | TimRiker | locking is kinda silly anyway. all you should need to do is change your nick to twisted and unlock it. :/ |
| 15:26.07 | Corydon76-dig | Heh |
| 15:26.12 | Qwell | he tried, it wouldn't let him |
| 15:26.44 | TimRiker | hmm. well, I guess it helps to be a bot admin. :) |
| 15:26.44 | Qwell | ~asteriskbugs |
| 15:26.47 | Qwell | indeed |
| 15:27.16 | Qwell | ~asteriskbugs |
| 15:27.25 | Qwell | sweet |
| 15:28.20 | TimRiker | I worked on an rss monitor at one point. can't recall if I ever finished it. |
| 15:28.40 | Qwell | neat |
| 15:29.06 | TimRiker | it would post new rss entries to the channel. polled at a set interval. I just don't remember where I left it. |
| 15:29.07 | Corydon76-dig | If you have a URL to post to, we could probably get rid of ciabot... |
| 15:29.20 | Corydon76-dig | since cia seems to be more down than up |
| 15:29.22 | Qwell | Corydon76-dig: we've got a new bot |
| 15:29.36 | Qwell | russellb hacked up something yesterday to replace it.. not quite ready, but yeah |
| 15:29.43 | TimRiker | yeah, I've been meaning to add cia features too, but they aren't there yet. |
| 15:30.18 | Qwell | <PastryChef> russell, asterisk, r83432, gcc 4.2 has a new set of warnings dealing with cosnt pointers. This set of |
| 15:30.18 | Qwell | <PastryChef> changes gets all of Asterisk (minus chan_alsa for now) to compile with gcc 4.2. |
| 15:30.18 | Qwell | <PastryChef> (closes issue #10774, patch from qwell) |
| 15:30.20 | Corydon76-dig | I can always tell when cia is down, because my commits take forever |
| 15:31.15 | TimRiker | well, enjoy. I'm off for a while. |
| 15:31.31 | Corydon76-dig | Have a good one |
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| 17:51.50 | *** topic/#asterisk-bugs is Asterisk Bugs Discussion -=- http://bugs.digium.com/ -=- http://asterisk.org/developers/bug-guidelines - Asterisk 1.4.11 has been released (August 21, 2007). -=- If you are not discussing a report already posted to the bugtracker, the discussion probably belongs in #asterisk. -=- Goodbye 1.2. We'll miss you. Maybe. -=- Overall bug count: < 340 |
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| 19:14.52 | *** join/#asterisk-bugs d1mas (n=chatzill@ip195.117.adsl.wplus.ru) |
| 19:16.23 | d1mas | hello. Two questions. 1. What is recommended "layout" for the sources when I have two applications (in separate app_*.c) both using the same code. I would like to place the common code into separate file. Where to put it? It looks like that apps/ folder only contains app_*.c |
| 19:20.19 | d1mas | And the second one: I have already raised it here but this time to get closer to some conclusion :) I have rewritten Steve Underwood txfax/rxfax applications. I would like this to be somehow included into asterisk source tree. Obviously I will disclaim everything as needed. But I guess Steve still need to disclaim his right as vell, right? |
| 19:23.01 | Juggie | everyone has to hand over all rights to digium |
| 19:23.15 | Juggie | unless the license is compatibile |
| 19:23.23 | Corydon76-dig | Juggie: NO!!! |
| 19:23.39 | Corydon76-dig | Everyone maintains ownership of their code |
| 19:23.56 | Corydon76-dig | What people need to do is grant a specific license to Digium |
| 19:24.04 | Juggie | ok, then maybe all rights was the old license, but you do give digium license do what ever they wish |
| 19:24.59 | Corydon76-dig | The only time you ever gave up rights was with the short license, where you placed your code into the public domain |
| 19:25.28 | file | Corydon76-dig: hrm... the changes related to cosl/etc made freebsd6 unhappy >_< |
| 19:25.31 | Corydon76-dig | But in that case, you weren't handing over your rights to Digium, you were just releasing them |
| 19:25.38 | d1mas | I believe Steve will do that - he only need to disclaim couple of files, not the whole SpanDSP library. However this means _applications_ will be disclaimed but they will depend on GPL library (NOT disclaimed) |
| 19:26.25 | Corydon76-dig | d1mas: I suspect he won't. |
| 19:26.50 | Corydon76-dig | Steve U has been very stubborn about the licensing of his code |
| 19:27.03 | Corydon76-dig | (as is his right, it's his code) |
| 19:27.58 | d1mas | Corydon: when I asked him by email he replied "I told Mark Spencer a long time ago that I couldn't give a damn about app_rxfax.c and app_txfax.c, as they are trivial pieces of code. Digium has shown no interest in adding them to Asterisk." |
| 19:28.10 | Corydon76-dig | d1mas: and unless you've clean-room written the txfax/rxfax applications, they are considered derivative works, and so you need the permission of the original author |
| 19:28.35 | d1mas | again, it is not about SpanDSP it is about only two really simple "bridges" between Asterisk and SpanDSP |
| 19:28.43 | Corydon76-dig | d1mas: saying you don't give a damn, and signing the license are two different things |
| 19:29.02 | d1mas | I understands. |
| 19:29.17 | d1mas | Ok, correct me if I'm wrong. There are two options: |
| 19:29.48 | d1mas | 1. in case of derivative work both me and Steve sign disclaimer |
| 19:30.10 | d1mas | 2. I write it from scratch so only I need to sign disclaimer |
| 19:30.36 | Corydon76-dig | In a nutshell, yes |
| 19:30.56 | d1mas | not sure what "from scratch" can be here. If I already seen Steve's original implementation - anything will be derivative work. Or not? |
| 19:30.59 | Corydon76-dig | However, since the core library is GPL-only, it can only go into asterisk-addons, not core asterisk |
| 19:31.40 | Corydon76-dig | d1mas: that's a very good point, which is why it's a gray area |
| 19:31.42 | d1mas | hm... how you handled H323 and similar? these are GPL libraries AFAIK |
| 19:32.03 | Corydon76-dig | d1mas: that's why we would prefer if Steve U signed a disclaimer |
| 19:32.35 | file | s/disclaimer/license agreement/ |
| 19:33.13 | Corydon76-dig | d1mas: openh323 is MPL, not GPL |
| 19:33.25 | Corydon76-dig | file: right |
| 19:33.40 | d1mas | ahh... |
| 19:34.15 | d1mas | ok, being in asterisk-addons is still better than being on completely different repository :) |
| 19:35.03 | d1mas | I will email Steve again to clarify stuff. Meanwhile, what about my first question (common code for two apps)? |
| 19:36.03 | Corydon76-dig | d1mas: why not one file for both apps? |
| 19:36.30 | Corydon76-dig | We have at least a dozen files like that already |
| 19:37.21 | d1mas | Hmm.... Because this idea never came to my mind :) Great approach. |
| 19:38.27 | Corydon76-dig | Realistically, we'd even be interested in someone cleanroom developing the code necessary to encode/decode faxes, if Steve U is not going to license them to Digium |
| 19:38.49 | d1mas | well... it is huge work |
| 19:39.02 | Corydon76-dig | That's why it hasn't been done yet |
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