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| 22:16.31 | Qwell | implicit: O.o |
| 22:26.17 | JunK-Y | hes having implicit problems :P |
| 22:26.28 | implicit | JUNKYYYYYYYY |
| 22:26.31 | implicit | hahaa |
| 22:26.33 | implicit | long time bro! |
| 22:26.37 | implicit | how are you!? |
| 22:26.46 | JunK-Y | yo yo! |
| 22:26.49 | implicit | YOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 22:26.51 | JunK-Y | ya, long time, no talk. |
| 22:26.54 | JunK-Y | im good, you? |
| 22:26.57 | JunK-Y | are ya comin to astricon? |
| 22:26.58 | implicit | great man |
| 22:27.06 | implicit | on the 21st or something? |
| 22:27.30 | JunK-Y | ya |
| 22:27.42 | implicit | i didn't sign up yet, yes I am going to go |
| 22:27.44 | implicit | are ou? |
| 22:27.47 | implicit | *you |
| 22:27.49 | JunK-Y | of course! |
| 22:27.56 | JunK-Y | time for finally met! |
| 22:27.57 | russellb | gah |
| 22:28.00 | implicit | yeah |
| 22:28.01 | russellb | all these people not signing up ahead of time |
| 22:28.10 | russellb | how are we supposed to know how many people are coming? :) |
| 22:28.13 | JunK-Y | russellb: no place for implicit ! :P |
| 22:28.18 | implicit | :-D |
| 22:28.29 | implicit | russellb, sign me up bro :-D |
| 22:28.38 | russellb | heh, i don't have the power! |
| 22:28.43 | russellb | astricon.net! |
| 22:29.02 | Qwell | I do - just give me your name and payment info.. :p |
| 22:29.04 | JunK-Y | russellb: when do you arrive to phx? |
| 22:29.07 | russellb | Qwell: lol |
| 22:29.11 | JunK-Y | Qwell: hjashaahahha |
| 22:29.12 | russellb | JunK-Y: yesterday |
| 22:29.23 | JunK-Y | already there, you're a patient man |
| 22:29.52 | implicit | lol |
| 22:29.56 | JunK-Y | Qwell: are ya coming too? |
| 22:30.02 | Qwell | no |
| 22:30.26 | JunK-Y | russellb: how many ppl registered so far? |
| 22:30.35 | russellb | 800km |
| 22:30.51 | implicit | hm |
| 22:30.56 | implicit | junky |
| 22:31.01 | JunK-Y | ive expected more 800 miles :P |
| 22:31.23 | JunK-Y | that's an excellent message! |
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| 22:41.41 | mvanbaak | I'll be there :) |
| 22:41.45 | mvanbaak | hurray ! |
| 22:42.15 | mvanbaak | 16 hours of travel before im in PHX though |
| 22:42.16 | mvanbaak | lol |
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| 22:50.34 | implicit | damn internet connections |
| 22:50.43 | implicit | i mean *connection |
| 22:50.50 | implicit | junky, sitll here? |
| 22:51.36 | implicit | anyway damn astricon is expensive |
| 22:52.55 | mvanbaak | I'll be there. if that makes you go it's good ;) |
| 22:53.50 | implicit | i just want to go to see people |
| 22:54.05 | implicit | not a lot to learn there |
| 22:54.12 | implicit | but i haven't been before |
| 22:54.22 | implicit | so i don't know if the expo pass is enough |
| 22:54.55 | mvanbaak | talk to russell or kpfleming to get you into the astridevcon |
| 22:55.41 | JunK-Y | yes im still there |
| 22:55.54 | implicit | ok |
| 22:56.08 | implicit | how much is astridevcon? |
| 22:56.47 | mvanbaak | invite only as far as I know |
| 22:57.44 | russellb | implicit: http://www.russellbryant.net/blog/2008/07/21/announcing-astridevcon-2008/ |
| 22:57.53 | russellb | implicit: feel free to email kevin to see if there is still room ... |
| 22:58.01 | russellb | i'm not sure if there is or not |
| 22:58.55 | implicit | ok |
| 22:59.47 | implicit | what's his email address btw |
| 22:59.59 | russellb | kpfleming@digium.com |
| 23:05.58 | implicit | thanks russell |
| 23:06.22 | russellb | np |
| 23:07.07 | implicit | if you have room i look forward to seeing you there. I've been discussing a lot of SIP stuff and RTP deadlock issues w/ OEJ recently. would love to go through a lot of that with everyone |
| 23:08.09 | implicit | btw, i'm bayan towfiq if you remember me |
| 23:14.08 | russellb | deadlock stuff? i'd rather if that was done on the -dev list ... |
| 23:14.17 | russellb | i have a lot of interest in that area. |
| 23:14.24 | russellb | as do a number of others |
| 23:14.46 | implicit | russellb, i'll start a discussion |
| 23:15.04 | russellb | can you give me a few sentence summary? |
| 23:15.14 | seanbright | deadlocks suck |
| 23:15.17 | seanbright | -- sean bright |
| 23:15.20 | russellb | indeed they do |
| 23:15.28 | implicit | sure in certain situations, even when all UAs are on public addresses, there is rtp deadlock when doing symmetric media |
| 23:15.33 | implicit | so no audio starts |
| 23:15.44 | russellb | ah |
| 23:15.46 | implicit | i have a hack that uses a sip proxy that spoofs fake rtp packets to initiate conenctions between teh boxes |
| 23:15.54 | implicit | to both endpoints |
| 23:15.56 | implicit | lol |
| 23:15.58 | implicit | but it's kinda bad |
| 23:16.08 | implicit | i use it on flowroute.com for some users |
| 23:16.10 | russellb | hm, so, i'm not sure when that would happen |
| 23:16.21 | russellb | but i guess that's what you'll explain when you start the discussion :) |
| 23:16.26 | implicit | also the rtp keepalives don't start until after 200ok |
| 23:16.39 | implicit | so u can't use that to resolve it |
| 23:16.42 | implicit | some other isseus |
| 23:17.05 | implicit | some comedia stuff ... |
| 23:17.26 | implicit | i've also been working on SIP-T stuff |
| 23:17.42 | implicit | decoding and encoding the binary bodies |
| 23:17.44 | JunK-Y | how big is flowroute btw? |
| 23:17.50 | russellb | cool |
| 23:18.00 | implicit | not huge, I do only about $25,000/month in revenue right now |
| 23:18.06 | implicit | 3 months ago we only have $500/month in revenue |
| 23:18.11 | implicit | so it's growing quick |
| 23:18.11 | implicit | *had |
| 23:18.31 | JunK-Y | and you're asking to get rebate at astricon? PAY :) |
| 23:18.40 | implicit | dude, i haven't had a paycheck for a year |
| 23:19.08 | implicit | i am in debt!! |
| 23:19.08 | implicit | liek crazy |
| 23:19.08 | implicit | lol |
| 23:19.08 | russellb | implicit: how many minutes is that roughly |
| 23:19.08 | JunK-Y | then, i'll pay you 1 beer :) |
| 23:19.08 | implicit | hehe |
| 23:19.32 | implicit | 1.5 million or so |
| 23:19.35 | implicit | but |
| 23:19.37 | implicit | we make $ off dids |
| 23:19.39 | implicit | channels |
| 23:19.43 | implicit | other stuff also |
| 23:19.44 | russellb | cool, cool .. |
| 23:19.52 | russellb | so, is asterisk involved in all of that? just some? |
| 23:19.53 | implicit | its just me and 2 other guys |
| 23:20.00 | implicit | asterisk is only in media server stuff |
| 23:20.07 | implicit | routing is all OpenSER |
| 23:20.11 | implicit | sip proxies |
| 23:20.15 | implicit | don't touch any media or anything |
| 23:20.29 | implicit | and i pipe transactional accounting w/ some custom modules over TCP to a real-time transaction matching & rating engine |
| 23:20.34 | implicit | that is decentralized |
| 23:20.54 | implicit | and use that for channel limiting, real-time call state, rating, call control, etc |
| 23:20.55 | JunK-Y | which engine? own-developped? |
| 23:21.06 | implicit | yeah i develoepd it with oen other person |
| 23:21.22 | JunK-Y | cool, cool. |