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| 00:07.12 | codefreeze | YAY!!! I DID IT!!! both zap hookflash and # xfers behave like they "should". |
| 00:08.17 | codefreeze | WHAT AN UNHOLY MESS I'VE MADE!!! NOW I GOTTA CLEAN IT UP BEFORE I CAN COMMIT! |
| 00:21.50 | Juggie | then fix my branch :) |
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| 01:17.48 | codefreeze | Juggie: sorry for the delay. You ****ARE*** next on my list! |
| 01:23.37 | denon | he's sitting at the helpdesk, saying "You're next on my list!" |
| 01:23.42 | denon | "... of people to ignore" |
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| 02:13.43 | codefreeze | OK, of the 12 different cases I use for testing, I have 2 lousing up the dstchannel if the caller does hookflash, and hangs up before the xferr'd party answers; and one case where the first CDR just plain isn't being generated. |
| 02:14.17 | codefreeze | back to the drawing board. |
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| 16:58.50 | domi77 | hi everyone! |
| 17:01.58 | domi77 | i have a little question maybee someone can help, I started looking at the asterisk code, and I'm wondering where I should start(what files), any advise? |
| 17:19.31 | JerJer | domi77: that very much depends on what you want to do with the code |
| 17:38.16 | domi77 | hmmm |
| 17:38.34 | domi77 | see in agents.conf |
| 17:38.43 | domi77 | when you declare an agent |
| 17:39.24 | domi77 | agent => 1234,pwd,name |
| 17:39.56 | domi77 | I want to be able to do this: |
| 17:40.12 | domi77 | agent => 1234,pwd,name,custom atribue |
| 17:40.37 | domi77 | I dont know maybee theres a struct agent |
| 17:40.45 | domi77 | and I can modify that |
| 17:42.48 | domi77 | are you jared? |
| 17:45.37 | domi77 | if you are, we still havent got are dcap results from montreal! lol |
| 17:45.52 | domi77 | i mean the montreal class |
| 17:52.25 | JerJer | you should avoid using agents |
| 17:52.28 | JerJer | imho |
| 17:52.31 | JerJer | no i'm not jared |
| 17:53.06 | domi77 | why avoid using agents? |
| 17:53.07 | JerJer | domi77: use dynamic members to the queue and set a custom channel and/or cdr variable |
| 17:53.36 | JerJer | cuz chan_agent is full of deadlock potential - esp when used with app_queue |
| 17:54.13 | domi77 | yeah I want to use queues too... |
| 17:54.23 | JerJer | so then dynamic queue members |
| 17:54.57 | domi77 | hmm never herd of dynamic members |
| 17:55.16 | JerJer | it is just a concept |
| 17:55.19 | domi77 | how are they defined |
| 17:55.42 | JerJer | they login and logout of the queue |
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| 17:56.18 | domi77 | ok I thought you had to use agents with queues |
| 17:56.58 | domi77 | so a dynamic member is just a regular user that logs to a queue |
| 17:57.15 | JerJer | hell no |
| 17:57.31 | JerJer | see show function AddQueueMember |
| 17:57.44 | JerJer | and Remove and Pause variants as well |
| 17:57.58 | domi77 | ok thanks a lot I'll check that out |
| 18:03.47 | Corydon76-dig | JerJer: we tracked down and fixed 3 deadlocks associated with chan_agent in 1.4.13 |
| 18:04.25 | JerJer | good to know, but all of my call center shit already uses dynamic members |
| 18:04.37 | Corydon76-dig | Good idea |
| 18:04.51 | JerJer | Corydon76-dig: technically do you think its possible to pull off a Queue like application using FastAGI ? |
| 18:04.58 | JerJer | ie not using app_queue |
| 18:05.03 | Corydon76-dig | Russell's "core show locks" tool was massively helpful for doing that |
| 18:05.35 | Corydon76-dig | Well, you could do it using func_odbc and func_lock for exclusion |
| 18:06.00 | Corydon76-dig | The mutex locking is really critical for queuing |
| 18:06.36 | JerJer | perhaps maybe i am thinking at a whole different level here.... |
| 18:06.52 | Corydon76-dig | I was thinking at a fundamental level |
| 18:07.22 | JerJer | the concept i have been rattling around is using Adhearsion (or something very similar) to deal with the processing logic of the queue |
| 18:08.06 | Corydon76-dig | Well, the core logic isn't really all that difficult. Like I said, I can do it entirely in the dialplan |
| 18:08.09 | JerJer | then at the asterisk level just turn Moh on and async transfer when a particular call is ready for its 'agent' to answer |
| 18:08.21 | Corydon76-dig | The trick is in all the extra little features that have been added over the years |
| 18:09.09 | JerJer | i don't like connecting asterisk directly to the database |
| 18:09.12 | Corydon76-dig | but yeah, the core stuff is easy |
| 18:09.51 | JerJer | would that work - via fast agi answer the incoming call, do some prompting, then when going into 'queue' simply turn on moh |
| 18:10.09 | Corydon76-dig | Essentially, yes |
| 18:10.27 | JerJer | i will have to play with this then |
| 18:10.40 | Corydon76-dig | I was thinking more along the lines of using Parking and Park recovery |
| 18:10.51 | JerJer | hmm |
| 18:11.07 | JerJer | what is the real underlying difference ? |
| 18:11.24 | Corydon76-dig | Nice thing there is that you can interrupt the MOH every so often for a sanity check |
| 18:11.30 | Corydon76-dig | i.e. park timeouts |
| 18:12.00 | JerJer | yeah - you are X in line |
| 18:12.08 | Corydon76-dig | e.g. check if there are any queue members logged in, check for after hours, announcements, etc. |
| 18:12.39 | JerJer | that could totally work |
| 18:13.05 | Corydon76-dig | I think I'd still prefer it in C, though |
| 18:13.31 | Corydon76-dig | All the edge cases are annoying to have to code |
| 18:14.06 | JerJer | there are very specific scale situations where a FastAGI might work better - i haven't tested that statement (yet) |
| 18:14.26 | JerJer | then again FastAGI could call the C API based app |
| 18:14.30 | JerJer | hmm |
| 18:15.09 | Corydon76-dig | At some point, someone is going rewrite app_queue to take advantage of device states and device state change notification |
| 18:15.28 | Corydon76-dig | I think we're all dreading the task, which is why nobody has yet started |
| 18:15.38 | JerJer | i hear ya |
| 18:16.30 | Corydon76-dig | Well, I'm going to get out of the house for a bit. Later. |
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| 19:15.36 | domi77 | jerjer: with asterisk 1.4 the deadlocks you were mentionning earlier are resolved?? |
| 19:16.07 | JerJer | some seem to have been resolved, yes |
| 19:16.13 | JerJer | i still don't like chan_agent |
| 19:16.54 | domi77 | you think its not very stable? |
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| 21:31.21 | tzafrir_home | what does "license rejected" for the patch in http://bugs.digium.com/10957 mean? "no license form fileld yet"? "license form has been reviewed and rejected"? |
| 21:34.31 | Corydon76-dig | Probably that the person signing it did not have the right to |
| 21:35.54 | tzafrir_home | So it probably means that this form has been reviewed |
| 21:36.22 | tzafrir_home | If someone wants a reevaluation, what's the address to contact? |
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| 23:21.25 | tzafrir_home | when chan_zap.c reads config values it also checks them for length. |
| 23:21.38 | tzafrir_home | main/manager.c doesn't seem to do that |
| 23:22.18 | tzafrir_home | An overly-long value from users.conf or manager.conf will probably only be caught much later on |
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