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| 09:33.29 | sergee | M13105 |
| 09:33.32 | MuffinMan | [new] [Asterisk] PBX/NewFeature 0013105: [patch] If context wasn't found in extensions.conf - don't give up, look in RT. reported by sergee (Karma: +54.50) http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=13105 |
| 09:33.39 | sergee | anybody interested? |
| 09:40.20 | mvanbaak | you |
| 09:40.22 | mvanbaak | ;) |
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| 11:55.24 | oej | sergee: That's a bit of a can-of-worms |
| 11:55.35 | oej | There was a patch by ssokol a while ago about realtime contexts |
| 11:55.43 | oej | But yours is a bit more clean |
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| 13:58.40 | Laureano | Hello |
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| 14:19.18 | ctooley | How many characters is the maximum number for CNAM? |
| 14:20.06 | russellb | 800 km |
| 14:21.29 | russellb | i wonder if there is any reason to still have ASTERISK_FILE_VERSION |
| 14:21.59 | russellb | i guess it could still be useful if you have version mismatch between asterisk and modules ... |
| 14:22.08 | russellb | moving on, then |
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| 14:28.04 | Juggie | kpfleming, i was following your sofiasdp expirement, why is it impossible to use this library? |
| 14:33.08 | ctooley | Just for my clarification... if I'm done with a team branch, is it better to "svn del" it or just leave it hanging around? It seems to not make a lot of difference as it consumes no more space one way or another as long as I turn off automerge. |
| 14:34.38 | Juggie | if its been merged, most people delete them |
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| 14:35.26 | ctooley | Juggie, Most of that work hasn't been merged. |
| 14:36.20 | ctooley | Actually, for new team branch.... I think I'll just do the work in my current tree. It's going to be messy, I'll just mark down the rev # of my current state. |
| 14:41.27 | russellb | if you're done with it, just svn rm it ... it will always be in svn history if you need it |
| 14:41.36 | russellb | but if you think you want that code at some point, feel free to leave it around |
| 14:41.38 | russellb | it's no big deal |
| 14:42.14 | ctooley | I think I'm just going to start this new project in there. It's already automerging with trunk.... I'm sure it's not going to continue to merge well though. :) |
| 14:42.44 | russellb | it's your sandbox to use as you please |
| 14:42.50 | russellb | (with the usual set of restrictions, of course) |
| 14:43.25 | ctooley | Well, what I'm going to attempt might well be way outside my skillset, but.... we'll see. |
| 14:43.39 | russellb | that's the only way to expand it :) |
| 14:44.52 | ctooley | Having an RTP thread for calls which will never have RTP is a PITA for me. :) So, I'm going to attempt to not spin one up til it's used. |
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| 14:45.34 | russellb | there is no "RTP thread" |
| 14:45.48 | ctooley | russellb, uhhh, you're right, sorry, the RTP resources inside of the SIP channel. |
| 14:45.50 | russellb | there is a "channel thread", and that is required for executing the dialplan ... |
| 14:45.57 | russellb | oh, allocating RTP ports and such? |
| 14:46.00 | ctooley | yup |
| 14:46.05 | russellb | ah, ok, very different :) |
| 14:46.30 | ctooley | yeah, I know, it was a very long night. |
| 14:46.41 | russellb | sorry to hear that |
| 14:46.52 | ctooley | such is life. |
| 14:46.53 | russellb | hopefully you got some sleep in there |
| 14:46.55 | russellb | indeed |
| 14:47.08 | russellb | ctooley: going to astricon btw? |
| 14:47.09 | ctooley | sick kids (as in plural) |
| 14:47.16 | russellb | :( |
| 14:47.19 | ctooley | russellb, I hope so, I'm supposed to speak |
| 14:47.21 | russellb | ha |
| 14:47.32 | russellb | cool. |
| 14:47.41 | ctooley | Assuming of course we can actually get Griffin cleaned up and pushed out to simplified. |
| 14:47.56 | ctooley | Otherwise I'll just look like an ass again. |
| 14:49.37 | putnopvut | "Again?" |
| 14:49.53 | ctooley | putnopvut, it's a common occurrence for me. |
| 14:50.21 | russellb | what, people are talking? i'm just going to drink |
| 14:50.22 | putnopvut | Heh, just read any mailing list post of mine to see what an ass looks like. |
| 14:50.40 | file | russellb: DRINK! |
| 14:50.56 | ctooley | has 2 more hours of the week left.... TGIFM |
| 14:52.59 | ctooley | has 8 Million calls through 1.4.19 in just under two days with no major issues. |
| 14:53.15 | ctooley | Thankfully, my biggest issues seem to have been bad hardware. |
| 14:57.16 | russellb | ctooley: i just twittered that :-p |
| 14:57.42 | putnopvut | Bad hardware is one of those things that is simultaneously a relief and infuriating. |
| 15:01.04 | jeffg | ctooley, mighty impressive! |
| 15:06.31 | ctooley | russellb, do I have a blog at asterisk.org? |
| 15:07.15 | Corydon76-dig | ctooley: so does that mean SIP in trunk ISN'T slower than 1.4? |
| 15:07.37 | ctooley | Corydon76-dig, No, we're using 1.4.19, not trunk, because trunk is too slow |
| 15:07.44 | russellb | ctooley: um, if you want one, sure |
| 15:08.19 | russellb | ctooley: i just need your username, i think |
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| 15:08.38 | ctooley | russellb, :) ctooley |
| 15:08.57 | ctooley | Just figured I'd put up a few blog entries. |
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| 15:09.42 | Corydon76-dig | ctooley: if you put up a few, you'll have more than me |
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| 15:11.07 | Corydon76-dig | I think I have all of 3 entries |
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| 15:16.10 | shido6 | got it working |
| 15:16.13 | shido6 | shweeeeeet |
| 15:16.34 | shido6 | its probably really really ugly but i'll upload it |
| 15:17.28 | ctooley | Corydon76-dig, Figured I will put my test results up there as I go |
| 15:30.39 | ctooley | russellb, where was that twitter? |
| 15:30.39 | Corydon76-dig | ctooley: have you signed up for an account on asterisk.org? |
| 15:31.35 | ctooley | I was looking for something like that... I don't see where to create one (or log in for that matter) |
| 15:31.50 | Corydon76-dig | Right bottom of the front page, I think |
| 15:32.12 | russellb | ctooley: twitter.com/russellbryant |
| 15:32.14 | ctooley | hey... look at that giant login box. |
| 15:32.21 | putnopvut | lol |
| 15:34.08 | russellb | ctooley: i just marked you as a developer ... so you should have blog access now |
| 15:34.56 | ctooley | russellb, I haven't even activated my account yet. :) |
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| 15:48.56 | Juggie | haha russellb, you know cola does expire and tastes quite bad when it does :) |
| 15:49.02 | Juggie | better drink that dr pepper fast :) |
| 15:50.38 | russellb | it's going reasonably quickly ... |
| 15:50.42 | russellb | though i'm not drinking much of it |
| 15:50.50 | russellb | i'm not much of a fan of non-diet soda ... |
| 15:51.29 | russellb | diet dr. pepper is pure win, though |
| 15:52.08 | putnopvut | All forms of Dr. Pepper are non-win :( |
| 15:52.22 | russellb | only if you're a demon |
| 15:52.34 | putnopvut | checks himself for horns and a tail. |
| 15:53.10 | Juggie | russellb, i drink only diet as well |
| 15:53.30 | Juggie | though lately i like diet orange crush the most |
| 15:54.06 | Juggie | as it is not sweetened with aspertame but splenda |
| 15:56.06 | ctooley | tried to drink a regular coke the other day and almost choked on the sugar |
| 15:56.24 | Qwell | sugar? |
| 15:56.24 | putnopvut | I'm a huge fan of Diet Coke. |
| 15:56.27 | Qwell | aren't you in the US? |
| 15:56.33 | putnopvut | Qwell: he means HFCS. |
| 15:56.38 | Qwell | :D |
| 15:56.45 | putnopvut | Which is a type of sugar, technically. |
| 15:56.54 | Qwell | can you buy low fructose? |
| 15:56.58 | ctooley | "real" coke, imported from Mexico. |
| 15:57.03 | ctooley | I was in Austin. |
| 15:57.03 | Qwell | mmm |
| 15:57.08 | russellb | HFCS FTMFL |
| 15:57.10 | Qwell | ctooley: that stuff is actually pretty good |
| 15:57.30 | ctooley | Qwell, I can't handle it anymore. Too many years of Diet. |
| 15:57.33 | Qwell | I liked going to the Mexican shops when I lived in LA. They had "real" soda (and beer) there. |
| 15:57.42 | russellb | the type of sugar is not the only difference in international soft drinks .. |
| 15:57.48 | Corydon76-dig | ftmfl? |
| 15:57.48 | putnopvut | Alabama is a beer wasteland. |
| 15:57.58 | russellb | Corydon76-dig: it's like ... FTL++ |
| 15:58.07 | Qwell | though, I went to TJ once, and it was quite silly. I got 2 coronas from the Hard Rock Cafe, and 1 of them was imported from the US O.o |
| 15:58.10 | ctooley | putnopvut, that's because you're supposed to drink the "shine" not the beer. |
| 15:58.11 | Corydon76-dig | ah |
| 15:58.30 | Corydon76-dig | MF=most fun, right? |
| 15:58.34 | russellb | yes :) |
| 15:58.35 | putnopvut | of course ;) |
| 15:59.33 | Juggie | heh |
| 15:59.49 | Juggie | i wonder what else we could anonymously send to the loading dock |
| 16:00.45 | Corydon76-dig | Juggie: sugarfree red bull, please |
| 16:01.00 | Corydon76-dig | Both Mark and I drink that |
| 16:01.34 | Corydon76-dig | although if you sent a pallet of sugarfree red bull to my house, I'd be at a loss at where to put it |
| 16:01.36 | Juggie | can you get crush in the usa? |
| 16:01.44 | Corydon76-dig | Yes |
| 16:01.50 | ctooley | Corydon76-dig, Turpentine without the mask of flavor |
| 16:02.02 | ctooley | That stuff is nasty |
| 16:02.15 | ctooley | Redbull is bad enough, Sugarfree is just evil. |
| 16:02.18 | Corydon76-dig | ctooley: It's an acquired taste, I'll admit |
| 16:02.27 | Qwell | sugarfree red bull isn't terrible |
| 16:02.31 | Corydon76-dig | It's like spinach and turnip greens |
| 16:02.43 | Qwell | it's acceptable |
| 16:02.48 | Corydon76-dig | As a kid, you hate both. I love the stuff now. |
| 16:02.53 | russellb | i love sugarfree red bull, as well |
| 16:03.13 | Corydon76-dig | Can't get enough vegetables |
| 16:03.30 | ctooley | Give me a Crown and Diet Coke, less bad taste, same great wakefulness. |
| 16:04.27 | Juggie | 47$ for a 24 pack :) |
| 16:04.42 | Qwell | 24 pack of what? red bull? that's a ot |
| 16:04.43 | putnopvut | I've never actually had Crown before. When I was in college, my roommates refused to buy it because they hated it and I wasn't going to buy it just for myself (especially if it turned out I didn't like it). |
| 16:04.44 | jets | Wow cost of living in cupertino is insane. |
| 16:04.45 | Qwell | lot* |
| 16:04.53 | Qwell | jets: what did you expect? O.o |
| 16:05.03 | jets | Crazy not insane LOL |
| 16:05.05 | outtolunc | it sucks down in campbell also <G> |
| 16:06.19 | Corydon76-dig | putnopvut: Crown RC Cola? Or Crown Royal? |
| 16:06.24 | ctooley | I'm a big fan of Tanqueray Ten and Tonic too, but Crown and Diet has the benefit of me keeping Diet Coke around anyway instead of having to remember to buy Tonic. |
| 16:06.24 | Juggie | Qwell, yes redbull |
| 16:06.50 | ctooley | Crown Royal, not Royal Crown. |
| 16:06.58 | jets | mmm all this drinking talk has me really tthirsty |
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| 16:07.04 | ctooley | The first is far better for you than the second. |
| 16:07.31 | Corydon76-dig | Crown Royal is crap. Give me a good Scotch any day |
| 16:07.44 | Juggie | is there a costco in huntsville? |
| 16:07.52 | kpfleming | yes, two of them |
| 16:08.10 | Juggie | ah, redbull is much cheaper there, 37.77/case. |
| 16:08.20 | ctooley | Corydon76-dig, a good Scotch is good for drinking, but doesn't provide the energy boost. Crown Royal requires being mixed as it's crap straight. |
| 16:08.32 | Corydon76-dig | Juggie: I get it for about $30/case, at Sam's |
| 16:08.59 | putnopvut | I think the last ten times I've gone to bars, all I've gotten were gin and tonics. |
| 16:09.02 | Corydon76-dig | ctooley: I'm not looking for an energy boost when I drink Scotch |
| 16:09.18 | putnopvut | Single-malt scotch is too expensive at bars. |
| 16:09.23 | Corydon76-dig | putnopvut: no Sex-on-the-Beach? |
| 16:09.35 | putnopvut | Corydon76-dig: heh, I don't know what's in that. |
| 16:09.46 | ctooley | Corydon76-dig, I have to drink something with an energy boost or I'll just fall asleep before I have a chance to enjoy the buzz. |
| 16:09.49 | Corydon76-dig | putnopvut: It's like a Long Island Iced Tea |
| 16:09.56 | putnopvut | Rum? Yuck! |
| 16:10.08 | Corydon76-dig | putnopvut: basically it's so sweet that you hardly notice the alcohol |
| 16:10.25 | ctooley | Sweet Alcoholic drinks, Yuck! |
| 16:10.34 | Corydon76-dig | ctooley: I've heard good things of '5 Hour Energy' drink |
| 16:10.43 | ctooley | Corydon76-dig, It works great |
| 16:10.56 | putnopvut | The only sweet alcoholic drink I like is a margarita. But I prefer when I can actually taste the tequila in it. |
| 16:10.59 | Corydon76-dig | Someone once said he felt like he was having a manic episode on that stuff |
| 16:11.00 | ctooley | It doesn't taste as bad as redbull |
| 16:11.43 | ctooley | But, it's something like comparing the taste of anti-freeze to turpentine, so take that taste thing with a grain of salt. |
| 16:12.13 | Corydon76-dig | ctooley: you realize anti-freeze tastes sweet, right? |
| 16:12.33 | ctooley | Corydon76-dig, yes, but with a horrid aftertaste |
| 16:12.38 | Corydon76-dig | It's why it's such a danger to kids... they WILL drink it if they get ahold of it |
| 16:12.53 | ctooley | yes, I'm aware.... 4 kids, remember? |
| 16:12.59 | Corydon76-dig | Heh |
| 16:13.13 | ctooley | And how else do you think I know about the aftertaste. |
| 16:14.37 | Corydon76-dig | You're a survivor? |
| 16:15.34 | ctooley | yup |
| 16:15.46 | ctooley | stomach pump veteran |
| 16:15.56 | ctooley | bleach hurt worse |
| 16:19.15 | Corydon76-dig | yick |
| 16:19.16 | kpfleming | when i was doing lots of woodworking and finishing in az, i had found a source for non-denatured ethanol to use for working with shellac and stuff... hard to find |
| 16:19.29 | kpfleming | but i can see why, it smells really good :-) |
| 16:20.02 | Qwell | denatured? |
| 16:20.23 | kpfleming | yes |
| 16:20.36 | Qwell | "Ethanol that has had a substance added to make it unfit for human consumption." ahh |
| 16:20.47 | kpfleming | if you go a store and buy alcohol for cleaning/woodfinishing/etc. it is ethanol with a small amount of methanol added |
| 16:20.55 | kpfleming | methanol will make you VERY sick |
| 16:21.13 | kpfleming | if they didn't do that, people would buy it to drink, because it's cheap and 200 proof |
| 16:21.35 | putnopvut | Why did you want the non-denatured ethanol for wood-working? |
| 16:21.47 | kpfleming | it dissolves shellac more quickly |
| 16:21.55 | kpfleming | and the smell of methanol is not pleasant |
| 16:23.12 | Corydon76-dig | Fumes are just as deadly, though... there's something to be said for a chemical that makes you want to go get fresh air... |
| 16:23.24 | ctooley | Other denaturation processes are more dangerous than the adding of methanol to ethanol: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denaturation_(fissile_materials) |
| 16:23.44 | Qwell | fissile - you all and your big words today |
| 16:24.30 | ctooley | Hence the denaturation of natural gas or propane piped to people's homes. Without it both are basically odorless and deadly. |
| 16:24.42 | kpfleming | yes, and heavier than air too |
| 16:24.45 | ctooley | yep |
| 16:25.26 | ctooley | OK folks there will be a pop quiz on Monday. :) |
| 16:25.51 | ctooley | ooops, guess it's not a pop quiz if it's announced, is it. So, there's a quiz on Monday. |
| 16:26.32 | ctooley | Qwell... my favorite part of that wikipedia article: |
| 16:26.55 | ctooley | "Aged U-233 is self-protected radiologically from diversion." |
| 16:27.20 | ctooley | ie: Start the process, let it sit a year, and you can't fix it. |
| 16:27.27 | ctooley | or control it. |
| 16:27.53 | Corydon76-dig | russellb: do you mind if I alter ast_sched_del to call _ast_assert directly, so it can report what called ast_sched_del with a bad task? |
| 16:28.31 | Corydon76-dig | Right now, the FRACK messages I'm getting are next to useless |
| 16:28.52 | russellb | sure. |
| 16:30.16 | kpfleming | can we just fix things so that isn't needed? |
| 16:30.32 | kpfleming | seems silly to have an API call that doesn't generate useful log messages |
| 16:31.26 | Corydon76-dig | kpfleming: See commit 131970 |
| 16:32.17 | kpfleming | ahh, i see |
| 16:32.19 | kpfleming | never mind then |
| 16:37.36 | russellb | Corydon76-dig: that commit breaks ABI ... |
| 16:40.26 | putnopvut | How's that? |
| 16:40.46 | russellb | um, ast_sched_del doesn't exist anymore |
| 16:40.51 | putnopvut | It's a macro |
| 16:40.55 | russellb | ABI, not API |
| 16:41.28 | russellb | a module compiled from the rev before that used ast_sched_del will no longer load |
| 16:41.30 | Corydon76-dig | Ah, hrmmm |
| 16:42.18 | Corydon76-dig | russellb: only for debug_threads, perhaps? |
| 16:42.42 | russellb | DEVMODE, maybe, since that's when ast_assert is present |
| 16:43.17 | russellb | only in DEVMODE i'd be ok with |
| 16:51.57 | russellb | Corydon76-dig: thanks |
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| 16:54.13 | putnopvut | I think there's something subtle here that I'm missing. I'm having a look at ast_pbx_outgoing_exten and ast_pbx_outgoing_app, and I'm having difficulty seeing what the difference is between passing in a 0 or a 1 for the "sync" variable. |
| 16:54.45 | Qwell | Corydon76-dig: buildbot is mad at you |
| 16:55.06 | putnopvut | In the case of ast_pbx_outgoing_app, with either a 0 or a 1 for "sync" a separate thread is created for running the application specified. |
| 16:55.17 | Qwell | (maybe your last commit made him happy though) |
| 16:55.33 | russellb | putnopvut: that argument has never really made sense |
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| 16:55.48 | putnopvut | russellb: I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks so :) |
| 16:57.06 | putnopvut | The issue I'm looking into is that when using either a manager originate or a cli originate and specifying an agent channel, the request and hangup for that agent occur in separate threads. chan_agent has a built-in assumption that both of those functions will be called from the same thread. |
| 16:57.49 | putnopvut | Originates lead to the thread which calls hangup attempting to unlock a lock it does not own. |
| 16:59.27 | putnopvut | My proposed fix was to change ast_pbx_outgoing_app so that both the __ast_request_and_dial and the execution of the app run in the same thread. |
| 17:00.01 | putnopvut | If sync is non-zero, then a thread would be created which calls both functions. |
| 17:00.14 | putnopvut | s/non-zero/zero/ |
| 17:01.09 | putnopvut | In the case of both manager originates and cli originates, sync would always be zero. |
| 17:02.00 | russellb | what does it do now? request_and_dial, and then create a thread for it to go off and run the pbx? |
| 17:02.04 | putnopvut | Yes. |
| 17:02.11 | putnopvut | Unless sync is set to >1. |
| 17:02.23 | russellb | that's bizarre |
| 17:02.38 | putnopvut | Yes, quite. That's why I thought there was something subtle I must be missing. |
| 17:02.47 | russellb | so 0, run it all in the calling thread, >1 run it all in a new thread, 1 == clusterfuck half and half weirdness ? |
| 17:03.05 | putnopvut | No, I can't tell a difference between 0 and 1. |
| 17:03.18 | putnopvut | They both appear to do the same thing, just through different function calls. |
| 17:03.24 | russellb | i ... see |
| 17:03.44 | russellb | well here's the thing... if you do the request_and_dial in another thread, you can't return a pointer to the channel |
| 17:03.50 | russellb | which some callers of that func expect |
| 17:03.58 | russellb | so you'd have to see what impact that would have |
| 17:04.06 | putnopvut | Callers of which func? |
| 17:04.11 | putnopvut | ast_pbx_outgoing_app? |
| 17:04.14 | russellb | outgoing_app and outgoign_exten |
| 17:04.14 | russellb | yeah |
| 17:04.42 | russellb | well, ok, it's possible, but it's more work |
| 17:05.03 | russellb | create a thread, and use a lock and condition for the thread you created to be able to signal back to you that it has created the channel and set the pointer for you |
| 17:05.42 | putnopvut | Makes sense. |
| 17:06.15 | putnopvut | The alternative is to leave those pbx functions alone and modify chan_agent's locking. That seems a lot less straightforward though. |
| 17:06.28 | putnopvut | And a lot more prone to horrible failures. |
| 17:06.37 | russellb | is it the app_lock that's messing with you? |
| 17:06.49 | putnopvut | yes. |
| 17:06.53 | russellb | i did consider that alternative, because it does seem like an assumption that should not be made |
| 17:07.04 | russellb | however, i can not thing of any other situation where the two would happen in different thread |
| 17:07.05 | russellb | s |
| 17:07.08 | russellb | that's how everything else works |
| 17:07.15 | putnopvut | The app_lock seems like a hacked pthread_condition. |
| 17:07.18 | russellb | so, i would modify the outgoing_app/exten functions to suck less |
| 17:07.48 | putnopvut | russellb: thanks for the help. I'll get to work on it! |
| 17:07.53 | russellb | np |
| 17:10.46 | russellb | the condition stuff should be fun to write |
| 17:11.15 | russellb | i've done a similar thing to pass arguments to a new thread that are allocated on the stack |
| 17:11.42 | russellb | let it signal back that it is up and running, and has copied the args to its own stack |
| 17:14.46 | russellb | thinking back, a simple malloc is probably more efficient :) |
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| 17:27.22 | Corydon76-dig | russellb: I think I tracked down the 'frack' message and I have yet another macro to fix it... AST_SCHED_DEL_SPINLOCK |
| 17:27.39 | Corydon76-dig | Just what you wanted, another macro, right? |
| 17:27.53 | russellb | yes!! |
| 17:28.23 | russellb | is curious what said macro does .. |
| 17:28.29 | mvanbaak | the xmmp stuff in asterisk rox |
| 17:28.44 | Corydon76-dig | http://asterisk.drunkcoder.com/patches/20080718__sched_del_spinlock.diff.txt |
| 17:29.14 | mvanbaak | I still like that domainname :) |
| 17:29.30 | Corydon76-dig | The reason why is that the scheduled job was waiting on a mutex, which was already locked by the destroy thread |
| 17:30.02 | russellb | nice. |
| 17:30.04 | russellb | yeah, that's fine |
| 17:30.16 | russellb | probably will make people's heads spin, but ... oh well |
| 17:30.24 | russellb | it's the right fix .. |
| 17:30.29 | Corydon76-dig | the destroy thread tried 10 times and couldn't kill the schedule (since the job was waiting on a mutex) and when the destroy finally unlocked the mutex, the job could run, but there was no pvt left on which to run |
| 17:30.29 | putnopvut | And make some locks spin, too :) |
| 17:31.06 | russellb | Corydon76-dig: nice job tracking it down |
| 17:31.13 | russellb | that stuff is very tricky |
| 17:31.34 | Corydon76-dig | russellb: that fix earlier today was critical to finding it... |
| 17:31.43 | Corydon76-dig | and of course, the frack helped too |
| 17:31.50 | russellb | <3 FRACK!! |
| 17:32.38 | mvanbaak | gheh |
| 17:32.59 | russellb | cookie for the first person to name where that came from |
| 17:33.00 | mvanbaak | make an IAX peer go lagged and you'll get dozens of them on the CLI |
| 17:33.54 | putnopvut | russellb: a misreading of RFC 3262? |
| 17:34.02 | putnopvut | j/k, BSG. |
| 17:34.09 | Corydon76-dig | mvanbaak: you should no longer. You might get 1, but not 10. |
| 17:34.28 | russellb | :) |
| 17:34.31 | russellb | hands putnopvut a cookie |
| 17:34.53 | mvanbaak | Corydon76-dig: running trunk from yesterday |
| 17:34.55 | russellb | ya know... SPINLOCK is a bit of a misnomer |
| 17:35.06 | russellb | that generally refers to a busy loop waiting to acquire a lock |
| 17:35.12 | putnopvut | russellb: I seem to recall playing a drinking game when I visited you in college where we drank everytime someone said FRACK on that show. |
| 17:35.16 | mvanbaak | I just had a peer going into LAGGED |
| 17:35.19 | russellb | putnopvut: nice! |
| 17:35.25 | mvanbaak | and bingo ! |
| 17:35.38 | mvanbaak | almost a screen full of FRACK |
| 17:35.52 | mvanbaak | actually, it was two peers going lagged |
| 17:36.09 | mvanbaak | two out of the three peers I have configured |
| 17:40.52 | Corydon76-dig | russellb: well, a reverse spinlock... ;-) |
| 17:41.02 | russellb | heh, something like that |
| 17:41.08 | Qwell | spincounterlock |
| 17:41.19 | Qwell | (crappy pun) |
| 17:41.27 | mvanbaak | lockspin |
| 17:41.27 | russellb | YIELDLOCK maybe ... |
| 17:41.29 | Corydon76-dig | counterspinlock? |
| 17:41.34 | Qwell | Corydon76-dig: either way |
| 17:41.36 | outtolunc | SPUN |
| 17:46.49 | eliel | Hello, I have a C question, it is necesarry to unlock a mutex before destroying it? |
| 17:47.24 | russellb | yes, it is |
| 17:47.34 | russellb | or destroy will return an error |
| 17:48.05 | eliel | russellb: and it is not dangerous to do so? |
| 17:49.27 | russellb | not dangerous to do what? |
| 17:49.31 | russellb | unlock before destroy? |
| 17:50.54 | eliel | yes, unlocking before destroying not being that an atomic action. |
| 17:51.50 | kpfleming | umm... you better not be destroying a mutex while other threads can still 'find' it |
| 17:51.55 | kpfleming | otherwise they might lock it |
| 17:52.07 | file | or rather, try to lock it |
| 17:53.53 | russellb | right, that's an entirely different problem |
| 17:54.14 | eliel | thanks |
| 17:56.33 | eliel | I didn't realize that the object was being removed from the list everyone use to access it. |
| 17:58.09 | kpfleming | yes, that's pretty important |
| 17:58.35 | russellb | i would even say, critical |
| 17:58.36 | russellb | :) |
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| 18:12.21 | Juggie | russellb, a bug that came up a couple of days ago reminded me of something i noticed a while ago. res_config_sqlite implements the cdr interface (as well as the realtime interface). Is that a good idea? should it not be in cdr_sqlite? |
| 18:12.30 | atis_work | hey putnopvut, are you around? |
| 18:12.36 | russellb | shrugs |
| 18:12.44 | putnopvut | atis_work: I just got back to my desk. |
| 18:13.09 | jameswf-home | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/56125 <<Critical ubuntu bug |
| 18:13.11 | russellb | maybe, unless they share a lot of code, in which case it makes sense to put it in one module ... unless someone goes through the effort of writing res_sqlite, like we have res_odbc for the common odbc interface ocode |
| 18:13.40 | atis_work | putnopvut: i was looking today at your commit for 12690 and i really don't understand that calculation.. and seems that you didn't understood my problem too |
| 18:14.03 | Juggie | russellb, i havn't read much of the code to be able to answer that but i'll look into it. |
| 18:14.04 | putnopvut | M12690 |
| 18:14.09 | MuffinMan | [closed] [Asterisk] Applications/app_queue 0012690: [patch] Queue timeout terminates call attempt, causing partial ring reported by atis (Karma: +14.75) http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=12690 |
| 18:14.22 | putnopvut | Ah, that one. |
| 18:14.47 | putnopvut | atis_work: what is it that you don't agree with? |
| 18:14.59 | atis_work | putnopvut: take a look at http://www.pastebin.ca/1075772 |
| 18:15.42 | atis_work | putnopvut: here's output of this http://www.pastebin.ca/1075773 |
| 18:15.42 | putnopvut | ooh, I should run that. |
| 18:16.08 | atis_work | putnopvut: sorry but my mind is not into this as much as was before vacation, but there is still something not correclty |
| 18:16.24 | atis_work | well, i created that to test everything more easy |
| 18:17.24 | atis_work | putnopvut: so, you can see - if there is 0 within qe->parent->timeout i would want -1 in to, except if qe->expire matches current time |
| 18:17.34 | Juggie | russellb, i suspect the reason its in the same file is such that they can share the same database file. |
| 18:18.10 | putnopvut | atis_work: even if the priority is set to APP? |
| 18:18.21 | atis_work | putnopvut: btw, if looking at the table, seems that you broken some results |
| 18:18.37 | atis_work | putnopvut: well, according to doc - APP is old behaviour |
| 18:18.42 | atis_work | so, no |
| 18:18.51 | atis_work | i wouldn't want to touch that |
| 18:19.14 | Juggie | so the only way to split this code up and make it more logical would be to write res_sqlite and then implement two interfaces to that, res_config_sqlite & cdr_sqlite |
| 18:19.27 | atis_work | putnopvut: oh, sorry, i just mistakenly assumed that CONF is old, so nothing broken |
| 18:19.37 | putnopvut | Ok |
| 18:19.41 | atis_work | but those few lines are just really hard to read and understand |
| 18:21.24 | putnopvut | atis_work: that can be said about a lot of the lines in app_queue :) |
| 18:21.57 | atis_work | putnopvut: well, this one is hard by default.. i can't even understand my own lines completely after 2 week vacation :) |
| 18:30.29 | mvanbaak | jameswf-home: too funny |
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| 18:32.17 | atis_work | putnopvut: so, the last paragraph for description could say that "If the configuration timeout is set to 0 and application timeout is not 0, queue will place calls to members indefineately which is useful for custom timeouts in Dial application when using Local channels to call queue members " |
| 18:32.43 | atis_work | putnopvut: that's basically what i would need |
| 18:32.56 | putnopvut | atis_work: Okay, I won't argue with that. |
| 18:33.35 | atis_work | great :) so, i should reopen issue with patch (which can be seen in proposal2)? |
| 18:33.50 | atis_work | putnopvut: is that ok with you? |
| 18:34.08 | putnopvut | atis_work: that's fine |
| 18:34.23 | mvanbaak | hhmm, I cant connect to pastebin.ca |
| 18:34.36 | mvanbaak | wanted to see atis' work |
| 18:35.51 | atis_work | mvanbaak: however i can't resolve svn.digium.com :p |
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| 18:36.17 | atis_work | our office moved to new building, so we have different network, different configurations.. |
| 18:36.23 | caio1982 | mvanbaak: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/pastebin.ca :-P |
| 18:36.49 | atis_work | and really great coffee machine, which makes cappucino, latte, espresso.. |
| 18:37.13 | mvanbaak | lol caio1982 |
| 18:38.00 | atis_work | mvanbaak: i can post that to issue too |
| 18:39.49 | mvanbaak | ah well |
| 18:39.53 | mvanbaak | I was just curious |
| 18:40.08 | mvanbaak | mostly because of putnopvut's reaction |
| 18:40.14 | mvanbaak | 20:15 <@ putnopvut> ooh, I should run that. |
| 18:40.32 | mvanbaak | if he goes that way, I always go: OEH, must see that ! |
| 18:40.33 | mvanbaak | ;) |
| 18:41.10 | putnopvut | mvanbaak: the second pastebin of atis_work's has the results of running the program. |
| 18:41.25 | putnopvut | mvanbaak: it may not mean a whole lot to you if you don't use queues and fiddle with timeouts though. |
| 18:41.36 | mvanbaak | putnopvut: that one is non-reachable from here neither |
| 18:41.55 | mvanbaak | in all our setups, we have 1 queue ;) |
| 18:46.09 | mvanbaak | bkruse slacking again ? |
| 18:46.10 | mvanbaak | ;) |
| 18:46.13 | mvanbaak | hides |
| 18:46.24 | atis_work | mvanbaak: you can see issue now, i uploaded all pastebins there too |
| 18:46.33 | mvanbaak | woot |
| 18:46.44 | atis_work | is trying to find external ip admin gave for development machine.. |
| 18:47.11 | atis_work | no svn.digium.com = no patch |
| 18:48.34 | atis_work | whew, i'll just grab one :p |
| 18:51.21 | mvanbaak | gheh |
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| 18:59.51 | mvanbaak | nice output |
| 19:02.07 | mvanbaak | HA ! |
| 19:02.15 | mvanbaak | more OpenBSD friendlyness |
| 19:02.30 | mvanbaak | if it goes thru |
| 19:03.45 | atis_work | mvanbaak: aare you speaking of sample for 12690? |
| 19:03.56 | atis_work | i never worked on OpenBSD :p |
| 19:04.56 | mvanbaak | I'm testing that on debian stable |
| 19:05.05 | mvanbaak | that's the only box in our setup that has a queue |
| 19:06.51 | seanbright | openbsd... pfft |
| 19:07.30 | seanbright | just think how much easier writing your code would be if you used a real OS |
| 19:07.33 | seanbright | heh |
| 19:09.06 | mvanbaak | ./kick seanbright that's it |
| 19:09.08 | mvanbaak | ;) |
| 19:09.32 | Juggie | what did linus call openbsd'ers? |
| 19:09.46 | mvanbaak | wanking monkeys |
| 19:09.54 | seanbright | agrees with linus |
| 19:09.57 | putnopvut | lol |
| 19:10.01 | caio1982 | haha |
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| 19:14.03 | mvanbaak | ah well |
| 19:14.19 | mvanbaak | it was an interesting thread till he showed up |
| 19:14.35 | seanbright | looks around |
| 19:14.38 | seanbright | moi? |
| 19:15.07 | shido6 | can u take a peek at http://pastebin.ca/1075838 and tell me what in the heck is wrong with time zones? |
| 19:15.09 | shido6 | :) |
| 19:15.11 | shido6 | hello evr'bohdee! |
| 19:15.17 | shido6 | +y |
| 19:15.19 | shido6 | there's a y in there somewhere |
| 19:15.23 | shido6 | anyone :) |
| 19:16.11 | putnopvut | shido6: considering that the backtrace is pointing to the function call itself, if could be an issue of running out of stack space. |
| 19:16.36 | caio1982 | shido6: ˈɛvribɒdi |
| 19:16.45 | shido6 | heh |
| 19:16.50 | shido6 | stack space? |
| 19:16.54 | shido6 | u cant be serious |
| 19:17.12 | putnopvut | shido6: if a patch of yours is recursing infinitely, or if you are running with LOW_MEMORY, it's possible. |
| 19:17.56 | shido6 | u send a message |
| 19:18.02 | shido6 | then review the message before sending it |
| 19:18.09 | shido6 | then hang up before it finishes playing the message |
| 19:18.10 | shido6 | boom |
| 19:18.16 | shido6 | seg faults everytime |
| 19:18.22 | shido6 | 1.4.21 and 1.4.18 |
| 19:18.30 | putnopvut | Interesting. Let me try! |
| 19:18.34 | shido6 | sendvoicemail must be set to yes |
| 19:18.40 | shido6 | and review yes, too |
| 19:18.59 | shido6 | was bugging the hell out of me and i found it in my regression testing |
| 19:19.26 | shido6 | unless i have a weird time zone entry in realtime |
| 19:19.30 | shido6 | err mysql |
| 19:19.42 | shido6 | i'll look there, too |
| 19:21.03 | putnopvut | shido6: it didn't crash when I tried. What storage method are you using for voicemail? |
| 19:21.16 | shido6 | odbc storage |
| 19:21.19 | shido6 | innodb |
| 19:21.22 | shido6 | mysql |
| 19:21.46 | putnopvut | I'll switch to odbc and see if it happens to me too. (i'm using postgresql here though, so mmmv) |
| 19:22.04 | shido6 | hrmmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 19:22.12 | shido6 | i do have US/Eastern and eastern |
| 19:22.25 | shido6 | both euqal to America/New_York|'vm-received' Q 'digits/at' IMp |
| 19:22.32 | shido6 | "p" |
| 19:22.34 | shido6 | hrmmmmmmmm |
| 19:22.40 | shido6 | gdb says ..... |
| 19:23.01 | shido6 | variable p is not available |
| 19:23.17 | putnopvut | Still didn't crash for me. |
| 19:23.21 | seanbright | feel free to condense a few of your messages into a single message, instead of spanning a thought across 15 lines :) |
| 19:23.21 | Corydon76-dig | shido6: how many Macro levels deep are you when you call Voicemail? |
| 19:23.28 | shido6 | oh good lord |
| 19:23.39 | Corydon76-dig | Macro is usually the reason why people run out of stack space |
| 19:23.45 | shido6 | its not a macro really but lets say... i set a crapload of channel variables |
| 19:23.57 | Corydon76-dig | channel vars don't take up stack space |
| 19:24.19 | shido6 | i do several realtime lookups per user |
| 19:24.42 | shido6 | but at the time it dies |
| 19:24.42 | Corydon76-dig | That shouldn't affect anything |
| 19:24.49 | shido6 | im the ony one in there on a staging box |
| 19:24.53 | shido6 | only |
| 19:26.00 | Corydon76-dig | shido6: try a 'bt full' |
| 19:26.09 | Corydon76-dig | Show me the output |
| 19:26.31 | Corydon76-dig | You shouldn't run out of stack unless you're about 15-20 levels deep |
| 19:27.04 | mvanbaak | 20 levels of macro's ? |
| 19:27.12 | Corydon76-dig | 20 stack frames |
| 19:27.13 | mvanbaak | holy crap, that's hard to debug |
| 19:27.17 | shido6 | i dont think im using macros |
| 19:27.18 | mvanbaak | ow |
| 19:27.34 | Corydon76-dig | Each Macro call takes up about 3 or 4 levels |
| 19:27.42 | mvanbaak | yeah, around 20 stack frames should be fine |
| 19:27.57 | shido6 | ok |
| 19:27.58 | shido6 | http://pastebin.ca/1075850 |
| 19:28.02 | shido6 | this is where it dies |
| 19:28.31 | Corydon76-dig | You have stack corruption, then |
| 19:28.36 | Corydon76-dig | Time for valgrind |
| 19:28.56 | Corydon76-dig | There is no way in hell there's only a single stack frame. |
| 19:29.22 | shido6 | valgrind? |
| 19:29.28 | seanbright | valgrind |
| 19:29.29 | Corydon76-dig | See doc/valgrind.txt |
| 19:29.40 | seanbright | http://valgrind.org/ |
| 19:30.10 | shido6 | ooooh wow, i got promoted to valgrind usage |
| 19:30.11 | seanbright | asterisk is printing out that "Found" and "Length is 75564" part? |
| 19:30.17 | shido6 | yes |
| 19:30.18 | seanbright | weird |
| 19:30.46 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: that's normal |
| 19:31.05 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: those are printf's. You'll never see them, unless you're at the console |
| 19:31.24 | seanbright | interesting. |
| 19:31.28 | seanbright | goes to comment them out |
| 19:31.29 | seanbright | heh |
| 19:33.09 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: it was very useful while debugging the ODBC insert of binary data |
| 19:33.35 | seanbright | ohhh, debugging code |
| 19:33.37 | seanbright | gotcha |
| 19:33.45 | seanbright | that makes more sense |
| 19:34.05 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: placeholders for binary data are very weird to debug |
| 19:34.39 | Corydon76-dig | We mmap the file into memory, then pass a pointer to that mmap region |
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| 19:35.34 | seanbright | i understand all that, just didn't understand the use of printf when we have the whole ast_log facility |
| 19:36.05 | shido6 | gimme a sec |
| 19:36.48 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: in some places, it's necessary |
| 19:36.57 | Corydon76-dig | like in logger.c |
| 19:37.33 | Corydon76-dig | I think that printf is just a leftover, though |
| 19:38.08 | shido6 | turn debug threads on? |
| 19:38.37 | Corydon76-dig | not necessary for this purpose |
| 19:39.14 | Corydon76-dig | In fact, you can probably skip MALLOC_DEBUG, as well |
| 19:39.17 | shido6 | i cant even login |
| 19:39.19 | Corydon76-dig | Just run valgrind |
| 19:39.19 | shido6 | ok |
| 19:39.22 | shido6 | ok |
| 19:39.43 | Corydon76-dig | but DONT_OPTIMIZE should be necessary |
| 19:40.00 | bkruse | mvanbaak: hey! |
| 19:40.03 | shido6 | ok |
| 19:40.05 | shido6 | rebuilding |
| 19:40.12 | bkruse | mvanbaak: I did not commit, but I have some cool stuff (syntax line building) almost done |
| 19:40.13 | bkruse | well, sorta |
| 19:40.15 | bkruse | started* |
| 19:40.17 | shido6 | i was trying to login and it had trouble playing the prompts |
| 19:40.21 | shido6 | and then it would hangup |
| 19:40.27 | shido6 | not allowing me to enter in my pin :( |
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| 19:50.55 | shido6 | grrrrrrr |
| 19:51.00 | shido6 | something is broken :) |
| 19:51.12 | shido6 | soon as i get it back up i'll pop back in |
| 19:51.26 | mvanbaak | bkruse: you _DID_ commit it ;) |
| 19:51.42 | mvanbaak | I saw it in my mail |
| 19:51.53 | bkruse | mvanbaak: Just now, not finished though, it may not even compile :X |
| 19:52.40 | mvanbaak | we'll know soon enough |
| 19:53.21 | mvanbaak | hhmm |
| 19:53.23 | mvanbaak | you know |
| 19:53.38 | mvanbaak | I really like the idea we have the syntax as seperate cli item |
| 19:53.53 | mvanbaak | it should be included in 'core show application foo' |
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| 19:54.01 | mvanbaak | but having it as seperate item is pretty cool |
| 19:54.15 | mvanbaak | most of the time I know what the options are, or I can guess them |
| 19:54.22 | mvanbaak | but the syntax ... |
| 19:54.51 | mvanbaak | 'was it the fifth or the fourth option ?' |
| 19:55.00 | mvanbaak | ever had to ask that question ? |
| 19:56.02 | mvanbaak | hhmm, some header changed, complete rebuild |
| 19:56.23 | mvanbaak | fail ! |
| 19:57.04 | shido6 | ok wtf |
| 19:57.08 | shido6 | what the eff :) |
| 19:57.11 | shido6 | it doesnt crash anymore |
| 19:57.27 | shido6 | i turned on dont optimize |
| 19:57.40 | shido6 | for like 8 times i tried loading asterisk i couldnt get to voicemail |
| 19:57.49 | shido6 | i reinstalled the 1.4.7 addons |
| 19:57.52 | shido6 | and tried it again |
| 19:57.53 | shido6 | same thing |
| 19:58.13 | shido6 | then i went into another instance ont eh same box - the prod instance - and did a set verbose 3 to see if it was still running well |
| 19:58.26 | shido6 | then set it back to verbose 2 and exitted out of that instance to go back into my dev instance |
| 19:58.36 | shido6 | then i looked at menuselect one more time |
| 19:58.45 | shido6 | save it |
| 19:58.47 | shido6 | recompiled |
| 19:58.51 | shido6 | started up |
| 19:58.54 | shido6 | no problems |
| 19:58.56 | bkruse | mvanbaak: That is why I made a seperate command, AND included it in core show application 'x' |
| 19:59.03 | shido6 | so i stopped it and reran valgrind |
| 19:59.06 | shido6 | now i cant crash it |
| 19:59.12 | bkruse | I am basically working on the generic function to build the syntax line based on an app name, function name, whatever |
| 19:59.27 | seanbright | ~period |
| 19:59.28 | jbot | the enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', exclamation mark '!', question mark '?', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '--', or ellipsis '...' instead. |
| 19:59.44 | putnopvut | I never knew about ~period |
| 19:59.56 | seanbright | and now you know... and knowing is half the battle |
| 20:00.16 | mvanbaak | bkruse: I see what you are doing |
| 20:00.18 | mvanbaak | looks ok |
| 20:00.29 | mvanbaak | are you still working on it |
| 20:00.36 | mvanbaak | or did you commit it for later use ? |
| 20:00.49 | bkruse | still working for a little longer today |
| 20:01.09 | mvanbaak | ok. then I'll wait for that |
| 20:01.16 | mvanbaak | was already fixing it |
| 20:01.47 | putnopvut | shido6: it's somewhat normal for a program that usually crashes to not crash when running valgrind. |
| 20:02.03 | shido6 | really? |
| 20:02.08 | bkruse | mvanbaak: don't worry :) |
| 20:02.10 | shido6 | what the eff is that about? :) |
| 20:02.19 | putnopvut | It doesn't mean the error has gone away. If you look at the logfile, you'll probably see error messages from valgrind though. |
| 20:02.26 | shido6 | ok |
| 20:02.30 | shido6 | i'll check |
| 20:02.57 | shido6 | um |
| 20:02.58 | shido6 | wow |
| 20:03.03 | shido6 | lotsa stuff in valgrind |
| 20:03.38 | shido6 | like 7119999999 |
| 20:03.39 | shido6 | oops |
| 20:03.47 | shido6 | like ==19652== Warning: invalid file descriptor 2248 in syscall close() |
| 20:04.05 | russellb | those warnings irritate the hell out of me when using valgrind ... |
| 20:04.11 | russellb | i usually log to a file and grep those out |
| 20:04.50 | mvanbaak | gheh |
| 20:04.56 | shido6 | im not quite the grep master , how would i do that |
| 20:05.14 | shido6 | its 1.3M |
| 20:05.18 | russellb | cat log.txt | grep -v "invalid file" |
| 20:05.20 | mvanbaak | cat bla | grep -v 'invalid file descriptor' |
| 20:05.27 | mvanbaak | lol |
| 20:05.32 | russellb | O.o |
| 20:05.36 | russellb | mvanbaak: i win |
| 20:05.41 | putnopvut | or even better: |
| 20:05.46 | mvanbaak | yup, by 12 microseconds |
| 20:05.51 | shido6 | um |
| 20:05.52 | putnopvut | cat log.txt | grep -v "invalid file" > log.txt |
| 20:05.52 | shido6 | wow |
| 20:06.03 | russellb | putnopvut: i don't think you can do that back into the same file |
| 20:06.06 | shido6 | 1.3M just turned into 20k |
| 20:06.10 | putnopvut | silly locking... |
| 20:06.12 | russellb | nice |
| 20:06.55 | putnopvut | Yeah, those invalid file descriptor things happen every time that Asterisk forks and execs something. The child process will indiscriminately close like 8000 file descriptors. |
| 20:07.11 | putnopvut | So in the case of voicemail, the externnotify is an example of this. |
| 20:07.16 | shido6 | does that eat up memory? |
| 20:07.24 | putnopvut | Does what eat up memory? |
| 20:07.43 | shido6 | http://pastebin.ca/1075876 |
| 20:10.46 | seanbright | eats up memory |
| 20:11.21 | mvanbaak | so does firefox |
| 20:11.52 | shido6 | can i run asterisk in valgrind in a production environment? :) |
| 20:12.04 | russellb | shido6: you _can_ |
| 20:12.09 | shido6 | lol |
| 20:12.12 | shido6 | drum roll |
| 20:12.13 | shido6 | but? |
| 20:12.15 | seanbright | shido6: work on your resume first |
| 20:12.23 | shido6 | lol |
| 20:12.29 | russellb | hopefully you're not trying more than about ... 2 calls |
| 20:12.30 | mvanbaak | whehehehehe |
| 20:12.56 | shido6 | avg 32 calls from 6 am to about 12 then it dies down to about 10 until 11 |
| 20:13.06 | seanbright | 10 concurrent? |
| 20:13.06 | russellb | no. |
| 20:13.07 | shido6 | 32 simultaneous calls |
| 20:13.10 | shido6 | concurrent, yes |
| 20:13.12 | seanbright | yeah, no |
| 20:13.14 | shido6 | for 2500 users |
| 20:13.15 | seanbright | no valgrind |
| 20:13.22 | russellb | it will choke and die |
| 20:13.28 | mvanbaak | big time |
| 20:13.30 | shido6 | 8 gigs of ram 8 core syss |
| 20:13.41 | seanbright | stop talking |
| 20:13.45 | shido6 | .... |
| 20:13.51 | seanbright | no valgrind |
| 20:13.54 | seanbright | ^^^^^ |
| 20:13.56 | russellb | if the 10 calls aren't really doing anything ... you have a chance |
| 20:14.02 | russellb | but not 32 .. |
| 20:14.23 | seanbright | how do you plan to start asterisk under valgrind in production? |
| 20:14.55 | seanbright | that's what i thought |
| 20:15.12 | russellb | carefully? |
| 20:15.32 | seanbright | ... |
| 20:15.37 | seanbright | stabs russellb |
| 20:15.40 | shido6 | welll there are 2 instances up rught now |
| 20:15.53 | shido6 | and all calls go to another system first before getting sent to my ast box |
| 20:16.03 | shido6 | so i can update the other box to move all new calls to the new valgrind prod box |
| 20:16.11 | shido6 | why am i talking about this you guys said no go :) |
| 20:16.23 | seanbright | russellb said to go for it |
| 20:16.28 | seanbright | <@russellb> if the 10 calls aren't really doing anything ... you have a chance |
| 20:16.29 | shido6 | ok russellb |
| 20:16.33 | shido6 | I dont think we've met |
| 20:16.47 | seanbright | i think it's going to crash and burn |
| 20:16.58 | seanbright | i'll get some popcorn |
| 20:17.20 | mvanbaak | I wont do it |
| 20:17.32 | russellb | i don't recommend anything |
| 20:17.35 | russellb | i just said there was a chance |
| 20:17.37 | mvanbaak | not when you think you can get close to 11 calls |
| 20:17.49 | russellb | no warranties were expressed or implied when this advice was given |
| 20:18.37 | mvanbaak | he was drunk when he gave you that advice |
| 20:18.40 | shido6 | ok |
| 20:18.50 | shido6 | are you in the pic with the soda "moving it upstairs" ? |
| 20:19.14 | seanbright | i can't believe russellb is recommending people run asterisk trunk under valgrind with DONT_OPTIMIZE turned on |
| 20:19.24 | seanbright | did you guys hear what russellb recommended? |
| 20:19.25 | seanbright | heh |
| 20:19.29 | mvanbaak | lol seanbright |
| 20:19.41 | russellb | shido6: yeah, i'm pushing the cart, i think |
| 20:19.45 | mvanbaak | oh wow, let me update my production boxen |
| 20:19.59 | mvanbaak | btw, this one mail on -dev scares me |
| 20:20.06 | seanbright | on the flip side, we'll get really good debug info that way |
| 20:20.13 | mvanbaak | 20.000 peers on only _one_ asterisk instance ? |
| 20:20.26 | mvanbaak | I want them to run it under valgrind in production |
| 20:20.36 | shido6 | 20 thousand or 20? |
| 20:20.37 | shido6 | :) |
| 20:20.43 | shido6 | cuz 20.0000000000000000000000000 isnt bad either |
| 20:20.45 | mvanbaak | 20 thousand |
| 20:21.06 | seanbright | in third world countries they use '.' instead of the more advanced ',' in their numbers |
| 20:21.07 | shido6 | hows that working out for you? |
| 20:21.20 | mvanbaak | shido6: I'm not doing it |
| 20:21.29 | seanbright | but when you are carving on stone tablets, i guess it's easier to just use the '.' |
| 20:21.30 | shido6 | hides his openser gun |
| 20:21.33 | shido6 | ok... |
| 20:21.35 | mvanbaak | I put in another box once we hit like 1500 on one box |
| 20:22.06 | seanbright | mvanbaak: it's the rule of, what i like to call, 'mailing list machismo' |
| 20:22.27 | seanbright | mvanbaak: in other words, it rhymes with "bullshit" |
| 20:22.33 | shido6 | shuts down the JerJer2000 openser plasma rifle. |
| 20:22.55 | seanbright | "i run call centers with 4000 simultaneous agents and 15,000 inbound calls every 6 and a half minutes" |
| 20:23.42 | shido6 | if you've got to run it, you're doing something wrong :) |
| 20:23.57 | mvanbaak | seanbright: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-dev/2008-July/033998.html |
| 20:24.06 | seanbright | mvanbaak: i read it |
| 20:24.07 | russellb | my question is ... wtf were they doing updating that box to trunk? |
| 20:24.09 | seanbright | mvanbaak: and i call bullshit |
| 20:24.14 | russellb | oh wait, he did say why .. |
| 20:24.17 | russellb | rolls his eyes |
| 20:24.20 | mvanbaak | lol |
| 20:24.21 | mvanbaak | yeah |
| 20:24.38 | russellb | and wasn't he doing his db stuff via an AGI anyway? |
| 20:24.59 | seanbright | yes... with perl |
| 20:25.15 | seanbright | my $choices = 'poor'; |
| 20:25.49 | mvanbaak | gheh |
| 20:26.09 | seanbright | [root@localhost]# make bad-decisions |
| 20:26.11 | seanbright | i could do this all day |
| 20:29.30 | seanbright | so i wrote this windows app that we installed on all of our sales reps machines that listens for UDP messages |
| 20:29.43 | seanbright | the UDP messages contain URLs for the browsers to pop to |
| 20:30.06 | seanbright | and i've been entertaining myself this afternoon by sending randomly selected URLs to the broadcast address |
| 20:30.16 | shido6 | awesome |
| 20:30.20 | sergee | oej, patch by ssokol is in trunk, it is broken, though... |
| 20:30.34 | shido6 | try injecting sound into ppl's bluetooth headsets :) |
| 20:30.41 | shido6 | thats kinda fun |
| 20:30.51 | seanbright | shido6: try getting voicemail not to crash... |
| 20:30.52 | seanbright | oh wait |
| 20:31.04 | shido6 | it doesnt anymore |
| 20:31.06 | shido6 | dunno why |
| 20:31.08 | shido6 | but nice one |
| 20:31.09 | shido6 | :) |
| 20:31.28 | shido6 | I felt it... right here... |
| 20:31.32 | shido6 | gives seanbright the finger |
| 20:31.39 | shido6 | ;) |
| 20:31.41 | russellb | get a room |
| 20:31.47 | seanbright | looks at his @ |
| 20:32.23 | Corydon76-dig | btw, the file closing error messages are gone in trunk |
| 20:32.52 | mvanbaak | var = astman_get_header(m, hdr); |
| 20:33.03 | mvanbaak | manager.c:1288: warning: assignment discards qualifiers from pointer target type |
| 20:33.06 | mvanbaak | eh ? |
| 20:33.15 | mvanbaak | can you enlighten me |
| 20:33.18 | Corydon76-dig | I'm using a side effect of dup2 to kill the error messages |
| 20:33.33 | Corydon76-dig | mvanbaak: you're passing a const char into a char |
| 20:33.51 | mvanbaak | so I should make var a const char as well ? |
| 20:33.57 | Corydon76-dig | Correct |
| 20:34.19 | shido6 | nope, died again, crap! |
| 20:34.39 | Corydon76-dig | shido6: post the log somewhere that I can look |
| 20:34.52 | shido6 | it doesnt die in valgrind |
| 20:35.21 | Corydon76-dig | Post the valgrind log somewhere anyway |
| 20:35.34 | mvanbaak | hhmm |
| 20:35.42 | Corydon76-dig | Valgrind can stop bad things from happening, but it logs it |
| 20:35.45 | mvanbaak | then I get: manager.c:1288: warning: passing arg 1 of `ast_uri_decode' discards qualifiers from pointer target type |
| 20:36.04 | Corydon76-dig | mvanbaak: show me |
| 20:36.14 | mvanbaak | ast_uri_decode(var); |
| 20:36.25 | Corydon76-dig | THE PATCH |
| 20:36.29 | mvanbaak | it's pari's commit to trunk |
| 20:36.31 | mvanbaak | latest one |
| 20:36.39 | Corydon76-dig | asterisk-trunk? |
| 20:36.42 | mvanbaak | yup |
| 20:36.47 | putnopvut | yeah, buildbot isn't happy. |
| 20:38.59 | shido6 | Corydon76-dig: its at http://pastebin.ca/1075876 |
| 20:39.15 | shido6 | but it didnt crasht hen |
| 20:39.17 | shido6 | then |
| 20:40.30 | Corydon76-dig | Hang on |
| 20:40.45 | russellb | races |
| 20:41.31 | mvanbaak | thanks |
| 20:41.33 | mvanbaak | :) |
| 20:41.43 | shido6 | http://pastebin.ca/1075901 |
| 20:41.54 | shido6 | ok try looking at this one, instead , Corydon76-dig http://pastebin.ca/1075901 |
| 20:42.04 | shido6 | this one is with the optimizations and with valgrind |
| 20:42.07 | shido6 | it crashes this way |
| 20:42.14 | russellb | actually, this is pretty irritating to fix in a good way |
| 20:42.48 | sergee | Corydon76-dig: can you take a look at M13105, when you have some free time? |
| 20:42.58 | mvanbaak | Corydon76-dig: you type FAST |
| 20:43.02 | Corydon76-dig | sergee: No |
| 20:43.12 | mvanbaak | I was at like 60% of the same patch and then you committed it |
| 20:43.37 | russellb | Corydon76-dig: that fix is probably going to be bad ... |
| 20:43.42 | sergee | Corydon76-dig: thanks :) |
| 20:43.53 | russellb | Corydon76-dig: it's likely to overflow the stack |
| 20:44.02 | Corydon76-dig | russellb: eh? |
| 20:44.25 | Corydon76-dig | russellb: why would it be bad? |
| 20:44.58 | russellb | because it's duplicating strings in this loop processing updates, and it may have 500 updates to do, each with long strings associated with them ... |
| 20:46.16 | Corydon76-dig | Ah... |
| 20:49.15 | russellb | i have another idea.. |
| 20:49.51 | mvanbaak | bkruse: ping |
| 20:51.47 | shido6 | i added --leak-check=full |
| 20:51.51 | shido6 | and got a nice core file |
| 20:51.59 | Corydon76-dig | russellb: I'm working on the fix |
| 20:52.31 | russellb | i already have one :) |
| 20:52.54 | jmls | hey guys |
| 20:53.01 | jmls | is back lurking |
| 20:53.17 | putnopvut | yay! |
| 20:53.36 | jmls | the documentation for TIMEOUT doesn't actually say what the value is |
| 20:53.49 | jmls | i.e. Seconds / Milliseconds / minutes / hours .... |
| 20:53.58 | russellb | Corydon76-dig: http://pastebin.ca/1075915 |
| 20:54.01 | jmls | I presume that it's milliseconds |
| 20:54.43 | russellb | oh, and i'll add your NULL checking back ... |
| 20:54.49 | russellb | Corydon76-dig: what fix did you have in mind? |
| 20:55.01 | bkruse | mvanbaak: pong |
| 20:55.18 | Corydon76-dig | ast_str |
| 20:55.31 | mvanbaak | bkruse: is it correct that 'core show syntax Dial' shows the synopsis and description ? |
| 20:55.34 | mvanbaak | for now |
| 20:55.35 | mvanbaak | ? |
| 20:56.22 | bkruse | mvanbaak: Yes, I ripped that same part of the code |
| 20:56.28 | mvanbaak | kok |
| 20:56.36 | mvanbaak | s/kok/ok/ |
| 20:56.41 | bkruse | eventually it'll all be one command (like it says in the command function description) |
| 20:57.02 | jmls | oh, wait. perhaps it is seconds ;) |
| 20:57.14 | mvanbaak | jmls: adding 'seconds' to the option txt is enough ? |
| 20:57.33 | jmls | yah. Just so that someone knows from the "help TIMEOUT" |
| 20:57.36 | mvanbaak | app_dial timeout is in seconds |
| 20:57.56 | jmls | SET(TIMEOUT(absolute)=foo) |
| 20:58.02 | mvanbaak | erm |
| 20:58.03 | mvanbaak | ah |
| 20:58.13 | mvanbaak | the TIMEOUT function |
| 20:58.19 | mvanbaak | that one is not xml documented at all |
| 20:58.24 | Corydon76-dig | russellb: that work for you? |
| 20:58.34 | jmls | I nearly made foo Milliseconds :( |
| 20:58.43 | jmls | SET(TIMEOUT(absolute)=60*1000) |
| 20:58.45 | mvanbaak | jmls: I thought you were referring to the xmldoc stuff |
| 20:58.46 | jmls | heh |
| 20:58.50 | jmls | nope |
| 20:58.53 | jmls | online help |
| 20:59.13 | russellb | Corydon76-dig: you didn't look at my pastebin before committing :( |
| 20:59.37 | mvanbaak | so the document format is pretty ok right. only thing left is the documentation of the stuf you can feed ExecIf |
| 20:59.44 | russellb | i had used threadlocal buffers ... |
| 20:59.47 | russellb | but anyway, that's fine |
| 21:00.22 | jmls | mvanbaak: ExecIF ? |
| 21:00.31 | Corydon76-dig | russellb: oh, sorry |
| 21:00.36 | russellb | it's all good |
| 21:01.04 | russellb | those functions aren't going to get called that often, so it's all good |
| 21:01.09 | russellb | moving on |
| 21:01.15 | mvanbaak | jmls: yeah, we have three different seperators there |
| 21:01.21 | mvanbaak | :?, |
| 21:02.00 | bkruse | mvanbaak: I am working on generating the syntax string, later tonight |
| 21:02.19 | Corydon76-dig | mvanbaak: if you make the label an intrinsic element, then you can reference it and only have to deal with 2 delimiters |
| 21:02.36 | mvanbaak | Corydon76-dig: good idea |
| 21:02.57 | Corydon76-dig | mvanbaak: Remember that labels are special case, anyway, as they are parsed right-to-left |
| 21:03.42 | mvanbaak | uhhuh |
| 21:04.03 | mvanbaak | I was thinking about converting some stuff |
| 21:05.11 | mvanbaak | the labels etc can be added later |
| 21:05.26 | mvanbaak | we dont need that to do the bulk of the conversion |
| 21:06.07 | Corydon76-dig | You're probably right, but it's the most difficult part, and if you don't do it first, you may wind up having to redo all the easy conversions |
| 21:06.47 | Corydon76-dig | because your syntax might change as a result of doing that part |
| 21:07.07 | mvanbaak | nah, dont think so |
| 21:07.28 | mvanbaak | because you can already reference stuff |
| 21:07.43 | mvanbaak | Dial#option#r |
| 21:07.47 | mvanbaak | or whatever |
| 21:08.03 | mvanbaak | we put it all in the same child elements of the application now |
| 21:08.08 | mvanbaak | so easy to reference |
| 21:08.45 | mvanbaak | we have: <parameter name="options"> |
| 21:08.57 | mvanbaak | for example |
| 21:09.04 | mvanbaak | we can now do RetryDial |
| 21:09.20 | Corydon76-dig | <parameter="cryptic-1394"> |
| 21:09.47 | mvanbaak | <parameter name="options" reference="application#Dial#parameter#options"> |
| 21:09.57 | Corydon76-dig | <parameter name="cryptic-difficult-to-remember-element-1394"> |
| 21:10.19 | mvanbaak | no need to remember, it will be documented ;) |
| 21:10.45 | Corydon76-dig | <parameter name="spaghetti-documentation-5208"> |
| 21:11.15 | seanbright | being a nay-sayer just cuz? priceless |
| 21:11.17 | seanbright | heh |
| 21:11.33 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: just warning of some of the pitfalls |
| 21:11.39 | mvanbaak | well |
| 21:11.48 | mvanbaak | how would you like to reference it then ? |
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| 21:12.20 | mvanbaak | references="Dial(noop,noop,THIS_ONE)" |
| 21:12.21 | mvanbaak | ? |
| 21:12.41 | Corydon76-dig | mvanbaak: I'm not saying 'do it this way'. I just want to make sure you're aware of the potential problems, so that you can avoid them |
| 21:13.04 | mvanbaak | yeah I know |
| 21:13.11 | Corydon76-dig | name="digium-core-app-dial-option-r" |
| 21:13.27 | seanbright | errr |
| 21:13.31 | seanbright | s/digium/asterisk/ |
| 21:13.41 | putnopvut | seanbright: he means the digium distribution of asterisk. |
| 21:13.54 | mvanbaak | yup |
| 21:14.05 | seanbright | what is the "digium distribution of asterisk?" |
| 21:14.10 | seanbright | downloads.digium.com? |
| 21:14.21 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: i.e. the tarball |
| 21:14.24 | mvanbaak | that way we can also do: "freepbx-some-crappy-app-with-useless-options" |
| 21:14.25 | seanbright | yikes |
| 21:14.59 | Corydon76-dig | or "mandriva-powerpack-app-speak-option-Z" |
| 21:15.02 | seanbright | "digium distribution of asterisk" = more fodder for the mailing lists |
| 21:15.02 | mvanbaak | hhmm, maybe the - is a better seperator there |
| 21:15.03 | seanbright | have fun with that |
| 21:15.37 | mvanbaak | but I think it needs an identifier for application and/or function |
| 21:15.42 | mvanbaak | to make it generic |
| 21:16.28 | Corydon76-dig | "company-product-type-name-option" |
| 21:16.44 | seanbright | might want to drop the company and just go with "core" |
| 21:16.54 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: whose core? |
| 21:17.01 | seanbright | jeebus |
| 21:17.09 | seanbright | you win |
| 21:17.11 | seanbright | i give up |
| 21:17.21 | mvanbaak | I think a ref to the company is not bad |
| 21:17.37 | mvanbaak | allows for referencing to out-of-tree stuff |
| 21:17.48 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: there's precedence for that kind of labeling |
| 21:17.58 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: packages are a good example |
| 21:18.34 | mvanbaak | yup |
| 21:18.42 | mvanbaak | I'll be the first to do that ;) |
| 21:18.55 | mvanbaak | OpenBSD-ports-app-dial-option-r |
| 21:19.00 | Corydon76-dig | What's the label for binaries? gnu-linux-elf ? |
| 21:19.17 | seanbright | i think you're inviting a slew of crap by doing that |
| 21:19.31 | putnopvut | seanbright: can you explain why? |
| 21:19.36 | seanbright | but i'm probably just being chicken little |
| 21:20.41 | seanbright | putnopvut: you may or may not have noticed, but on one front, the digium employees have to insist, continually and exhaustively, that just because they are employees of digium they aren't speaking for the company |
| 21:21.08 | putnopvut | seanbright: I've only heard Corydon76-dig say that. |
| 21:21.20 | kpfleming | in nearly every case, when a digium employee makes a statement about the company's products, they are speaking for the company whether they want to be or not |
| 21:21.36 | seanbright | well then they should probably be told that by the company |
| 21:22.03 | russellb | kpfleming: +1 |
| 21:22.08 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: no comment |
| 21:22.08 | kpfleming | they have been |
| 21:22.56 | seanbright | and personally, i think introducing the digium prefix into documentation reference, though minor, is just another thing the trolls will latch onto to make life harder for everyone else |
| 21:23.05 | seanbright | but what do i know |
| 21:23.37 | Corydon76-dig | You can't keep the trolls from latching onto things and harping |
| 21:23.41 | putnopvut | I still can't understand why you think that. It just clarifies that it's the version retrieved from Digium and not from somewhere else. |
| 21:24.05 | Corydon76-dig | Even if we purged the Digium name from everything, the trolls would still find something to harp on. You can't let their bad behavior influence your decisions |
| 21:24.13 | seanbright | putnopvut: then i am wrong and i'll let it go |
| 21:43.01 | mvanbaak | I think it's a good idea |
| 21:43.47 | mvanbaak | but then again |
| 21:44.12 | mvanbaak | we could as well use core |
| 21:45.04 | mvanbaak | but if we decide on digium, I think the xml generated during the compile fase should be digium-something.xml as well |
| 21:45.43 | putnopvut | I find it massively inconvenient that pthread_create can only accept a single void * as the final parameter. |
| 21:46.00 | putnopvut | But, what're you gonna do. |
| 21:47.17 | russellb | putnopvut: that's what a struct is for |
| 21:47.20 | Corydon76-dig | putnopvut: so you pass it a struct |
| 21:47.29 | mvanbaak | ok, still nothing against the xml format we have for now |
| 21:47.29 | putnopvut | I know, that's what I'm finding inconvenient. |
| 21:47.37 | russellb | laaaaaaaaaazy |
| 21:48.12 | *** kick/#asterisk-dev [russellb!n=putnopvu@216.207.245.1] by putnopvut (who's lazy now?) |
| 21:49.40 | putnopvut | hmmm, I sort of expected him to come back... |
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| 21:50.15 | putnopvut | :) |
| 21:50.31 | *** mode/#asterisk-dev [-o putnopvut] by ChanServ |
| 21:50.35 | file | play nice! |
| 21:50.39 | putnopvut | heh |
| 21:50.41 | *** kick/#asterisk-dev [putnopvut!n=russell@asterisk/developer-and-stable-maintainer/drumkilla] by russellb (take that, biotch) |
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| 21:51.11 | Deeewayne | pushes file |
| 21:51.19 | mvanbaak | putnopvut: you kicked the one that kept me motivated on the xml branch |
| 21:51.23 | mvanbaak | for that |
| 21:51.39 | *** kick/#asterisk-dev [putnopvut!n=michiel@vanbaak.xs4all.nl] by mvanbaak (I rule) |
| 21:51.42 | russellb | haha |
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| 21:51.49 | jets | oy vay |
| 21:51.54 | putnopvut | fun times |
| 21:52.03 | mvanbaak | uhhuh |
| 21:52.10 | mvanbaak | weekend !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
| 21:52.18 | mvanbaak | ow wait |
| 21:52.25 | mvanbaak | ^u |
| 21:52.30 | mvanbaak | holidays !!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 21:54.12 | russellb | mvanbaak: ping |
| 21:54.15 | russellb | M13103 |
| 21:54.18 | MuffinMan | [ready for testing] [Asterisk] Channels/chan_iax2 0013103: [patch] Add 'iax2 set debug peer <peer>' reported by mvanbaak (Karma: +45.00) http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=13103 |
| 21:54.39 | mvanbaak | damn |
| 21:54.45 | mvanbaak | he did it again eh ? |
| 21:54.49 | russellb | yeah, heh |
| 21:55.03 | russellb | but it's there when you have some time to test it |
| 21:56.28 | mvanbaak | cool |
| 21:56.31 | mvanbaak | gheh |
| 21:56.46 | mvanbaak | the if in 'static void iax_outputframe' |
| 21:56.52 | mvanbaak | that looks,..... funny |
| 21:57.39 | seanbright | is not laughing |
| 21:57.50 | mvanbaak | hhmm, I _am_ a bugmarshal. so I can comment on coding style ;) |
| 21:58.09 | mvanbaak | no { and/or } for if/while |
| 21:58.15 | mvanbaak | sorry |
| 21:58.16 | russellb | provide all the comments you want |
| 21:58.20 | mvanbaak | just reading the patch |
| 21:58.42 | mvanbaak | sorry, I should test before commenting |
| 21:58.46 | seanbright | we should just remove all the debugging code |
| 21:58.57 | seanbright | that would probably cut out LOC count down by 50% |
| 21:59.01 | mvanbaak | he actually did the work, while I was only putting it on my todo list |
| 22:01.35 | mvanbaak | ok, let me put this into production |
| 22:01.59 | mvanbaak | argh |
| 22:02.03 | mvanbaak | alias gmake=make |
| 22:02.06 | mvanbaak | there |
| 22:02.13 | seanbright | or install gnu make |
| 22:02.18 | russellb | you mean alias make=gmake ? |
| 22:02.19 | mvanbaak | well |
| 22:02.23 | mvanbaak | nope |
| 22:02.29 | mvanbaak | I do dev on openbsd |
| 22:02.41 | seanbright | GNU make will compile there |
| 22:02.43 | seanbright | :) |
| 22:02.59 | mvanbaak | so when I have to upgrade a production machine with zap^wdahdi hardware I type 'gmake update && gmake' |
| 22:03.01 | russellb | i wonder if gnu make is required to compile gnu make ... |
| 22:03.23 | mvanbaak | but those are Linux |
| 22:03.29 | mvanbaak | so no gmake there |
| 22:03.47 | russellb | ah. |
| 22:03.47 | mvanbaak | because it's GNU crippled that much that make is not make but gnu-make |
| 22:03.54 | seanbright | GNU crippled? |
| 22:03.57 | seanbright | i'm done with mvanbaak |
| 22:04.05 | mvanbaak | lol |
| 22:04.21 | mvanbaak | remember, I'm only a masturbating monkey |
| 22:04.34 | mvanbaak | according to Linus |
| 22:04.35 | seanbright | how could i forget? |
| 22:04.47 | seanbright | so why are you anti-GNU? |
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| 22:04.55 | mvanbaak | I'm not anti gnu |
| 22:05.00 | seanbright | besides the usual argument of "it's better than everything else" |
| 22:05.16 | mvanbaak | it's just that they took make, and put in some stuff that's,.... interesting |
| 22:05.22 | mvanbaak | same with ls |
| 22:05.32 | seanbright | wait wait wait... |
| 22:05.38 | mvanbaak | they put in some non-posix stuff |
| 22:05.39 | seanbright | they took a tool that is used to compile software |
| 22:05.50 | seanbright | and added stuff that made it easier to manage the compilation of software??? |
| 22:05.53 | seanbright | how DARE they!? |
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| 22:06.08 | mvanbaak | I'm not going to have this discussion |
| 22:06.08 | seanbright | innovation? you aren't supposed to do that in software! |
| 22:06.11 | seanbright | heh |
| 22:06.12 | mvanbaak | because it useless |
| 22:06.40 | mvanbaak | we'll never agree, and in the end I'll do 'pkg_add gmake' and be done with it |
| 22:06.48 | seanbright | precisely |
| 22:06.50 | seanbright | :) |
| 22:07.17 | seanbright | for every commit you do that makes something more compliant, i swear i will commit something that will be non-POSIX compliant |
| 22:07.21 | seanbright | you mark my words! |
| 22:07.22 | seanbright | ;-) |
| 22:07.36 | kpfleming | points at cygwin suppor |
| 22:07.37 | putnopvut | seanbright: what, like winsock code? |
| 22:07.50 | mvanbaak | the only sad thing is, that someone who is so dedicated to freedom takes a bsd licensed tool, adds some non-posix stuff and puts it under the restrictive GPL |
| 22:07.52 | seanbright | putnopvut: ohhhh, you just gave me a great idea |
| 22:08.41 | putnopvut | hopes that his sarcasm detector is working properly |
| 22:09.07 | mvanbaak | but like I said, the discussion is useless |
| 22:09.11 | mvanbaak | we use gnu-make |
| 22:09.31 | mvanbaak | so we take advantage of it's options |
| 22:09.35 | mvanbaak | done |
| 22:09.41 | seanbright | mvanbaak: so the current asterisk makefile has GNU extensions? |
| 22:10.07 | seanbright | putnopvut: no sir. i'm creating a branch for it right now. |
| 22:10.40 | mvanbaak | seanbright: yeah, it's gnu-make only |
| 22:11.18 | seanbright | svn copy https://origsvn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/trunk https://origsvn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/team/seanbright/michelson-wants-winsock |
| 22:11.25 | putnopvut | lol |
| 22:11.32 | seanbright | woops, wrong window... |
| 22:11.33 | seanbright | ;-) |
| 22:11.48 | seanbright | mvanbaak: are you trying to make it non-gnu-make only? |
| 22:12.09 | mvanbaak | seanbright: just for your reference: |
| 22:12.14 | mvanbaak | http://pastebin.com/m4c0bdb9d |
| 22:12.23 | seanbright | heh |
| 22:12.24 | seanbright | yikes |
| 22:12.29 | mvanbaak | seanbright: no freaking way |
| 22:12.43 | putnopvut | I'm guessing that's due to some of the shortcuts that gnu make allows. |
| 22:12.49 | seanbright | yeah |
| 22:12.56 | seanbright | most of that is probably trivial to 'fix' |
| 22:12.58 | mvanbaak | putnopvut: yup |
| 22:13.05 | mvanbaak | well, have fun |
| 22:13.22 | seanbright | mvanbaak: i'll need to install openbsd i guess... |
| 22:13.32 | seanbright | mvanbaak: should i kick myself in the testicles before or after starting the install? |
| 22:13.48 | putnopvut | Yeah, the problem with that for someone like me, who has very little make experience, is that it also means that the Makefiles are a lot harder to understand since I don't know GNU's built-in shortcuts. |
| 22:14.19 | putnopvut | I read the online make manual once but I think it sort of went in one ear and out the other for me. |
| 22:14.32 | codefreeze-lap | ctooley: you out there? |
| 22:14.34 | seanbright | mvanbaak: just messing with you, not trying to offend |
| 22:15.33 | codefreeze-lap | calls down empty, echoing passageways |
| 22:16.22 | mvanbaak | seanbright: once you used openbsd (with all the super documentation, also about the dev stuff) you'll never go back to linux |
| 22:16.22 | seanbright | most of those errors have to do with the 'export' keyword which passes env vars down to sub-makes |
| 22:16.51 | seanbright | mvanbaak: i've got a few extra drives laying around, i'll fire it up this weekend |
| 22:17.25 | seanbright | of course i'll have to log off irc, breaking my 3 week uptime record |
| 22:18.09 | mvanbaak | seanbright: eh ? |
| 22:18.20 | mvanbaak | oh wait, you're not like me |
| 22:18.24 | seanbright | i've been logged on since june 26th |
| 22:18.41 | mvanbaak | I have this bigass box with 12 virtual machines, one is my 'shellbox' |
| 22:18.48 | seanbright | ah |
| 22:18.53 | mvanbaak | so i logon to it, run 'screen -r' |
| 22:18.57 | mvanbaak | and I'm on irc |
| 22:19.01 | seanbright | same here |
| 22:19.05 | seanbright | minus the virtual machines |
| 22:19.07 | mvanbaak | it's a production server |
| 22:19.17 | mvanbaak | with xen |
| 22:19.18 | seanbright | mine is an old dell desktop at home |
| 22:19.30 | seanbright | with win2k3 and centos |
| 22:19.30 | seanbright | :) |
| 22:19.36 | mvanbaak | mine is a sun X2200 |
| 22:19.40 | seanbright | ohhh |
| 22:19.44 | seanbright | your rig is bigger than mine |
| 22:19.47 | seanbright | :) |
| 22:19.53 | mvanbaak | vpenis++ |
| 22:20.06 | mvanbaak | ! |
| 22:20.16 | mvanbaak | the X2200 is only around 900 euro |
| 22:20.27 | mvanbaak | so I got one, with some extra ram |
| 22:20.33 | mvanbaak | it cost me 1100 euro |
| 22:20.39 | mvanbaak | but I can run 20 VM's on it |
| 22:21.03 | Corydon76-dig | Is that a telephone in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me? |
| 22:21.11 | mvanbaak | lol |
| 22:21.14 | seanbright | what is 1100 euro in dollars these days? |
| 22:21.18 | seanbright | i'm guess $28k |
| 22:21.31 | Corydon76-dig | mvanbaak: you realize that's one of the standard sounds, right? |
| 22:21.39 | mvanbaak | seanbright: around 2000 us $ |
| 22:22.01 | seanbright | sucky US economy |
| 22:22.18 | seanbright | ah wlel |
| 22:22.32 | mvanbaak | seanbright: this is a testbox we had at work |
| 22:22.52 | seanbright | i wish i had the money for a new dev server |
| 22:22.58 | seanbright | but i'll have to make due with this one for a while |
| 22:23.00 | mvanbaak | it was done doing the test, and I could buy it for close to nothing |
| 22:23.06 | mvanbaak | I payed 200 euro for it |
| 22:23.28 | Corydon76-dig | mvanbaak: you going to send it to me for my birthday? |
| 22:23.43 | seanbright | Corydon76-dig: the thing in his pocket? |
| 22:23.44 | mvanbaak | Corydon76-dig: only if you'll have sex with me |
| 22:23.48 | seanbright | ... |
| 22:24.18 | Corydon76-dig | mvanbaak: you realize you're not suggesting something I wouldn't do, right? |
| 22:24.19 | seanbright | has to... make a phone c... use the restroo... go away for a few |
| 22:24.39 | mvanbaak | Corydon76-dig: nope |
| 22:24.42 | mvanbaak | erm |
| 22:24.44 | mvanbaak | yep |
| 22:24.47 | mvanbaak | I do realize |
| 22:24.53 | mvanbaak | and I'm fine with that |
| 22:25.24 | Corydon76-dig | Heh |
| 22:25.46 | seanbright | so based on your comments, mvanbaak, there is a POSIX standard for makefiles? |
| 22:26.37 | mvanbaak | seanbright: there's a make, and a gnu-make |
| 22:26.49 | mvanbaak | gnu added some extensions |
| 22:27.11 | seanbright | do you are talking about at&t make? |
| 22:27.13 | mvanbaak | cant comment on the posix part, because to be honest I did not compare it against the posix docs |
| 22:27.38 | seanbright | s/do/so/ |
| 22:28.56 | seanbright | because i keep seeing stuff like "All modifiers are BSD extensions..." in the man page for make on openbsd |
| 22:29.03 | mvanbaak | well |
| 22:29.06 | mvanbaak | to be complete: |
| 22:29.07 | mvanbaak | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:29.08 | seanbright | so really there is system-v-make, bsd-made, and gnu-make |
| 22:29.11 | mvanbaak | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:29.49 | mvanbaak | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:29.56 | seanbright | right |
| 22:29.59 | seanbright | so everyone added extensions |
| 22:30.10 | mvanbaak | yeah |
| 22:30.29 | mvanbaak | but make on OpenBSD only added some command line params |
| 22:30.41 | mvanbaak | so without them the Makefile and the tool are posix |
| 22:30.44 | seanbright | The handling of `BSDmakefile' and `.depend' are BSD extensions. |
| 22:30.47 | seanbright | err |
| 22:30.49 | seanbright | "The handling of `BSDmakefile' and `.depend' are BSD extensions. |
| 22:30.50 | seanbright | " |
| 22:31.02 | seanbright | "The ! operator is a BSD extension. |
| 22:31.03 | seanbright | " |
| 22:31.05 | seanbright | etc, etc. |
| 22:31.18 | mvanbaak | yeah |
| 22:31.23 | mvanbaak | I'm reading it now as well |
| 22:31.28 | seanbright | so really we should be striving for system V make compliance |
| 22:31.29 | mvanbaak | looks like they all add stuff |
| 22:31.35 | seanbright | (only not really) |
| 22:31.35 | mvanbaak | yup |
| 22:31.44 | mvanbaak | most of it at least |
| 22:31.56 | seanbright | well, i know you don't agree with this, but... |
| 22:32.17 | seanbright | i don't think saying that the GNU toolset is required to build asterisk is that much of an inconvenience |
| 22:32.27 | mvanbaak | I agree |
| 22:32.35 | seanbright | alright... let's hug |
| 22:32.39 | mvanbaak | lol |
| 22:32.43 | seanbright | but you totally can't have sex with me |
| 22:32.44 | mvanbaak | I dont mind |
| 22:32.56 | mvanbaak | on both statements |
| 22:32.58 | mvanbaak | ;) |
| 22:33.07 | seanbright | touche. |
| 22:33.09 | seanbright | :) |
| 22:33.32 | mvanbaak | the autotools stuff depends on gnu-make anyways |
| 22:33.39 | seanbright | good point |
| 22:33.42 | mvanbaak | and I asked around |
| 22:33.51 | mvanbaak | and most obsd devs have the gnu-make installed |
| 22:34.08 | mvanbaak | yes, we are a bunch of masturbating monkeys |
| 22:34.14 | seanbright | that you are, that you are |
| 22:34.27 | outtolunc | oh.. go float your boat <G> |
| 22:34.42 | mvanbaak | outtolunc: tomorrow my friend, tomorrow |
| 22:34.45 | seanbright | but when you think about it, i think you could define humanity in general as "masturbating monkeys" |
| 22:34.58 | mvanbaak | seanbright: yes sir |
| 22:35.10 | seanbright | but the openbsd crowd esp. |
| 22:35.10 | seanbright | :) |
| 22:35.13 | seanbright | goes to smoke |
| 22:35.16 | mvanbaak | lol |
| 22:35.19 | mvanbaak | gheh |
| 22:35.22 | mvanbaak | I'm at home |
| 22:35.36 | mvanbaak | I can smoke while hitting the keys on my thinkpad |
| 22:36.06 | putnopvut | mvanbaak: I think there's a difference in what the two of you are smoking though :) |
| 22:36.18 | mvanbaak | lol |
| 22:36.21 | mvanbaak | prolly |
| 22:36.31 | mvanbaak | hands out some shrooms |
| 22:36.32 | bkruse | mvanbaak: Why are you not in a boat right now |
| 22:36.51 | ZX81 | mmmm shrooms |
| 22:36.51 | bkruse | :] |
| 22:37.04 | mvanbaak | bkruse: because I have a party here tomorrow, to start my holidays |
| 22:37.09 | ZX81 | in season here |
| 22:37.10 | ZX81 | :) |
| 22:37.28 | mvanbaak | some ppl will stay over. so we go to my boat on sunday |
| 22:37.37 | mvanbaak | once we are awake and sober again |
| 22:37.39 | bkruse | sweet lfie |
| 22:37.41 | bkruse | heh |
| 22:38.26 | mvanbaak | we do have a dinner appointment on sunday in my second house where the boat is |
| 22:38.35 | mvanbaak | so we will be there sunday 7PM |
| 22:38.48 | mvanbaak | but what happens between now and that time, I dont care |
| 22:38.50 | mvanbaak | it's weekend |
| 22:38.59 | mvanbaak | start of my holiday |
| 22:39.49 | mvanbaak | my bet: loads of good time, fun things to do (visit musea, meet new friends, meet friends, have a drink, have dinner, go to pub, etc) |
| 22:40.30 | putnopvut | Does "musea" mean "more than one museum?" |
| 22:40.36 | mvanbaak | yup |
| 22:41.02 | mvanbaak | we plan to go to van Gogh museum, and the open air museum about ancient labour |
| 22:41.14 | putnopvut | I went to the Van Gogh museum two years ago. |
| 22:41.23 | putnopvut | I enjoyed it. |
| 22:41.23 | mvanbaak | it's nice |
| 22:41.27 | mvanbaak | indeed |
| 22:41.44 | mvanbaak | looking at his drawings and paintings is inspiring |
| 22:42.00 | mvanbaak | (or however you spell that) |
| 22:42.12 | putnopvut | t-h-a-t :) |
| 22:42.32 | mvanbaak | whehehe |
| 22:42.52 | putnopvut | Gotta go. It's gym time! If I don't talk to you before you leave, have a great vactation mvanbaak! |
| 22:42.59 | mvanbaak | anyone wants a glass of Laphroaig ? |
| 22:43.10 | mvanbaak | thank you putnopvut :) |
| 22:44.48 | mvanbaak | my boat is called Laphroaig |
| 22:44.51 | ZX81 | mmm best oak smell ever |
| 22:44.57 | ZX81 | brb |
| 22:45.04 | mvanbaak | ZX81: yup ! |
| 22:45.21 | Corydon76-dig | Does looking at his paintings inspire you to cut off your ear? |
| 22:45.42 | mvanbaak | Corydon76-dig: not really |
| 22:46.24 | mvanbaak | it does give my brain some time to act on their own though |
| 22:46.24 | Corydon76-dig | What was it, again? His girlfriend dumped him? |
| 22:46.27 | mvanbaak | yup |
| 22:46.40 | mvanbaak | and his paintings weren't very popular |
| 22:46.52 | mvanbaak | basically, his whole life was a joke |
| 22:47.05 | mvanbaak | so he cut his ear out of frustration |
| 22:47.08 | seanbright | "during which time he cut off part of his left ear following a breakdown in his friendship with Paul Gauguin." |
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| 22:47.25 | seanbright | they probably should have quoted "friendship" |
| 22:47.26 | mvanbaak | 00:46 <@ mvanbaak> basically, his whole life was a joke |
| 22:47.30 | mvanbaak | like I said |
| 22:47.43 | mvanbaak | no, he was not gay |
| 22:47.49 | seanbright | or "roommate" |
| 22:48.08 | Corydon76-dig | I dunno, I find many artists to be "open-minded" |
| 22:48.08 | mvanbaak | Paul was a close friend, but not a 'friend' |
| 22:48.21 | seanbright | suuuuuuuuuuure |
| 22:48.31 | seanbright | i know how you europeans operate |
| 22:48.32 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: There's bi, too, y'know |
| 22:48.46 | Corydon76-dig | or bi-curious |
| 22:48.49 | seanbright | Corydon76-dig: that just seems greedy to me |
| 22:48.52 | seanbright | heh |
| 22:48.55 | mvanbaak | <--- not bi, I just like people |
| 22:49.05 | seanbright | <-- assexual |
| 22:49.15 | seanbright | err |
| 22:49.18 | seanbright | hahaha |
| 22:49.19 | seanbright | <-- asexual |
| 22:49.20 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: your wife might disagree |
| 22:49.31 | mvanbaak | gheh, I'm married with a nimphomaniac |
| 22:49.31 | seanbright | Corydon76-dig: were i married, you might be correct. |
| 22:49.47 | file | seanbright: it's a trap |
| 22:49.49 | file | seanbright: RUNNNNNNNN |
| 22:49.52 | seanbright | haha |
| 22:49.58 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: oh, so you're available? |
| 22:50.04 | seanbright | Corydon76-dig: am i ever |
| 22:50.13 | file | seanbright: leave. now. I'm warning you! |
| 22:50.21 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: I'll be in Maryland mid-August |
| 22:50.25 | seanbright | Corydon76-dig: i only have a few minor requirements |
| 22:50.39 | seanbright | Corydon76-dig: specially, large breasts and a vagina |
| 22:50.45 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: 1) not crazy |
| 22:50.48 | mvanbaak | lol |
| 22:51.05 | seanbright | Corydon76-dig: 3) Heartbeat (optional) |
| 22:51.06 | Corydon76-dig | 2) not vindictive |
| 22:52.03 | seanbright | i usually go for the crazy, vindictive ones |
| 22:52.04 | mvanbaak | sends seanbright one of the 'nurse nancy with real pubic hair' girlfriends that fit in a small box and can be inflated |
| 22:52.06 | seanbright | they're more interesting |
| 22:52.23 | seanbright | mvanbaak: she'll just leave... like the rest |
| 22:52.46 | seanbright | we might be getting _slightly_ OT |
| 22:52.49 | seanbright | i blame myself |
| 22:53.02 | mvanbaak | gheh |
| 22:53.03 | Corydon76-dig | slightly? |
| 22:53.24 | mvanbaak | she'll only leave once her eyes turn 'whiteish' |
| 22:53.26 | seanbright | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm |
| 22:53.33 | mvanbaak | that means she's 'full' |
| 22:53.36 | seanbright | yikes |
| 22:53.49 | seanbright | this seals it, i'm definitely going to hell |
| 22:53.59 | mvanbaak | whehehehe |
| 22:54.01 | mvanbaak | me too |
| 22:54.22 | Corydon76-dig | Everybody goes to the same place. It is what you make of it. |
| 22:54.42 | seanbright | well that is more depressing |
| 22:54.44 | seanbright | thanks so much |
| 22:55.01 | Corydon76-dig | If you can't stand eternity will all of the people you hate, it'll be hell. If you don't hate anybody, it'll be heaven |
| 22:55.04 | seanbright | i'll be starting my 4th decade in a few months... not looking forward to it |
| 22:55.19 | mvanbaak | as long as they have asterisk I dont care |
| 22:55.40 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: you're turning 31? |
| 22:55.40 | seanbright | Corydon76-dig: 30 |
| 22:55.44 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: then you've got another year |
| 22:55.45 | mvanbaak | seanbright: no way |
| 22:55.54 | mvanbaak | you're from 1979 ? |
| 22:56.03 | seanbright | Corydon76-dig: age uses 0-based indexes :) |
| 22:56.12 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: oh, right |
| 22:56.19 | seanbright | mvanbaak: i am indeed |
| 22:56.20 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: day after |
| 22:56.22 | seanbright | january 8th |
| 22:56.33 | mvanbaak | seanbright: march 16th here |
| 22:56.38 | mvanbaak | also 1979 |
| 22:56.46 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: it's all downhill from here |
| 22:56.47 | seanbright | same as elvis presley and king henry VIII |
| 22:56.53 | seanbright | Corydon76-dig: tell me about it |
| 22:57.10 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: maybe someday I'll introduce you to my girlfriend |
| 22:57.35 | seanbright | Corydon76-dig: as in your romantic partner or as in a female you are friends with? |
| 22:57.50 | Corydon76-dig | romantic partner |
| 22:57.56 | seanbright | ah |
| 22:58.33 | seanbright | are we using girlfriend in a gender identifying or sexuality identifying manner? |
| 22:58.38 | seanbright | heh |
| 22:58.40 | mvanbaak | seanbright: they are 1 person |
| 22:59.44 | seanbright | well if i ever have another girlfriend i will be sure to make sure you all meet her |
| 22:59.55 | seanbright | except for mvanbaak... not sure i trust him |
| 23:00.00 | seanbright | :) |
| 23:00.02 | mvanbaak | lol |
| 23:00.04 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: are you sure? |
| 23:00.14 | seanbright | Corydon76-dig: about which part? |
| 23:00.15 | mvanbaak | I'm from .nl |
| 23:00.19 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: gf actually used to live in Baltimore |
| 23:00.20 | mvanbaak | I can be trusted |
| 23:00.59 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: you sure you want us all to meet her? We seem to know things about you... |
| 23:01.07 | seanbright | do you? |
| 23:01.24 | mvanbaak | yes |
| 23:01.25 | Corydon76-dig | Or we just seem to |
| 23:01.36 | seanbright | you know my name, my geographic location, and how i like to name variables |
| 23:01.36 | mvanbaak | you waste time here |
| 23:01.45 | seanbright | i feel pretty safe |
| 23:01.46 | seanbright | heh |
| 23:01.52 | mvanbaak | we have logs to show you spend more time with us then with her |
| 23:01.54 | mvanbaak | :) |
| 23:02.02 | elixer | do you? |
| 23:02.03 | elixer | :) |
| 23:02.24 | seanbright | well, "she" doesn't exist right now, so it is moot |
| 23:03.04 | mvanbaak | ./calculate_time_a_day ~/irclogs/freenode/asterisk-dev/ seanbright |
| 23:03.13 | seanbright | i'm going to try to make it out to astridevcon |
| 23:03.17 | mvanbaak | 20 hours/day 7 days/week |
| 23:03.43 | seanbright | so we'll do the meet and greet and all that jazz |
| 23:03.58 | seanbright | mvanbaak: make sure that script is POSIX compliant or she won't trust the results |
| 23:03.59 | mvanbaak | I looked at that |
| 23:04.10 | mvanbaak | cant afford it this year :* |
| 23:04.53 | seanbright | well next year it should be in the netherlands |
| 23:04.57 | seanbright | then you're all set |
| 23:05.01 | mvanbaak | yup |
| 23:05.13 | Corydon76-dig | has a date tomorrow night |
| 23:05.14 | seanbright | you can buy me a joint :) |
| 23:05.16 | mvanbaak | already talking about that with oej |
| 23:05.30 | seanbright | Corydon76-dig: oh yeah? details details details |
| 23:05.34 | mvanbaak | and lesouvage |
| 23:05.39 | mvanbaak | and nancy |
| 23:05.43 | seanbright | nancy?? |
| 23:05.44 | seanbright | heh |
| 23:05.50 | mvanbaak | my wife |
| 23:05.51 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: we're going to get drunk and screw |
| 23:05.53 | seanbright | who is nancy and why do i not have photographs?! |
| 23:05.54 | seanbright | oh |
| 23:06.06 | seanbright | Corydon76-dig: buffet concert? |
| 23:06.11 | mvanbaak | her daytime job is organizing events etc |
| 23:06.19 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: barhopping |
| 23:06.23 | seanbright | nice |
| 23:06.39 | seanbright | Corydon76-dig: well good luck |
| 23:06.46 | Corydon76-dig | The only catch is that I'm not supposed to consume alcohol on my new meds |
| 23:06.57 | seanbright | Corydon76-dig: hmmmm |
| 23:06.59 | mvanbaak | and since we'r working on it already, we think we have a good project |
| 23:07.07 | seanbright | mvanbaak: indeed |
| 23:07.17 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: so I'll skip the first part and go on to the second |
| 23:07.22 | seanbright | Corydon76-dig: good call |
| 23:07.23 | mvanbaak | Corydon76-dig: scotch single malt is my meds |
| 23:07.30 | seanbright | Corydon76-dig: first date? you're easy |
| 23:10.12 | mvanbaak | I'm off to bed |
| 23:10.14 | seanbright | annnnnnnnnnnnnnnd on that note |
| 23:10.15 | mvanbaak | zzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 23:10.26 | seanbright | later kids |
| 23:10.45 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: 3rd date |
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