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| 01:41.03 | Damin | Please DIGG and pass on: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ohio_LinuxFest_2008 |
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| 13:18.20 | tzafrir_laptop | http://bugs.debian.org/479375 <-- seems I dropped the ball on reporting this one |
| 13:19.23 | tzafrir_laptop | Does it ring a bell (^G) to anybody? |
| 13:19.46 | russellb | never seen that before |
| 13:19.46 | tzafrir_laptop | "asterisk console screws up terminal subtly when exited with ctrl-c" |
| 13:20.48 | tzafrir_laptop | just retested it and it still happens. with zsh this is still a problem (with bash all's well) |
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| 13:38.50 | tzafrir_laptop | just reproduced it with dash, zsh and busybox ash . bash and posh seem to work well here. |
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| 13:48.21 | file | nods to jtodd |
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| 14:41.06 | twisted | so maybe someone here knows |
| 14:41.29 | twisted | i'm calling ast_safe_sleep(chan, (w*1000)) where w is time in seconds |
| 14:41.41 | twisted | but asterisk just acts like the time has alerady passed. |
| 14:41.47 | twisted | regardless of the value of 2 |
| 14:41.48 | twisted | err w |
| 14:42.56 | twisted | last attempt w == 29 * 1000 and gdb even showed that the value being passed was 29000 |
| 14:44.58 | twisted | grr this is annoying. |
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| 14:54.07 | Corydon76-dig | twisted: is the channel hung up? |
| 14:54.42 | Corydon76-dig | twisted: if so, ast_safe_sleep() will return immediately with -1 |
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| 14:57.11 | seanbright | holy rusted metal! it's putnopvut. |
| 14:57.19 | putnopvut | Where?! |
| 14:57.29 | seanbright | did someone say something? |
| 14:57.50 | seanbright | that was weird... he just like... disappeared. it's a mystery. |
| 14:57.51 | putnopvut | People who say things are weird. |
| 14:57.58 | Corydon76-dig | It's a bird! It's a pain! |
| 14:58.03 | putnopvut | It's a frog! |
| 14:58.14 | putnopvut | ah sweet Underdog memories. |
| 14:58.21 | seanbright | Corydon76-dig: i made a typo the other day and it made me think of you |
| 14:58.26 | seanbright | Corydon76-dig: 'make menselect' |
| 14:58.30 | putnopvut | lol |
| 14:58.44 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: You know me. I don't make typos. |
| 14:58.56 | Corydon76-dig | Hah |
| 14:59.30 | seanbright | might be time to add an easter egg. |
| 14:59.51 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: Bonus points if you make that work, and list all of the single male Asterisk developers |
| 14:59.52 | seanbright | tries to find an ascii art indian, cop, and biker |
| 15:00.37 | Corydon76-dig | I may not be, for much longer. Found a cute 24yo last night. |
| 15:00.45 | putnopvut | seanbright: there are utilities to turn jpgs into ascii art. |
| 15:01.53 | Corydon76-dig | We also need a configure option of: --sense-of-humor=no (defaulting to yes) |
| 15:02.19 | putnopvut | Why does that need to be a configure-time option? |
| 15:02.20 | Corydon76-dig | So we can ditch the humorous error messages for certain people |
| 15:02.36 | Corydon76-dig | instead of eliminating them for all |
| 15:02.58 | Corydon76-dig | putnopvut: you think it should be a runtime option? |
| 15:03.22 | Corydon76-dig | putnopvut: only problem with runtime option is that it bloats the binary with both messages |
| 15:03.27 | file | Corydon76-dig: "found"? |
| 15:03.37 | Corydon76-dig | and people who don't have a sense of humor won't like that |
| 15:03.47 | Corydon76-dig | file: met |
| 15:03.50 | putnopvut | Corydon76-dig: touche |
| 15:04.30 | Corydon76-dig | Besides, I think forcing people to use --sense-of-humor=no will be a fine smackdown to certain people |
| 15:05.03 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: I think I may make that a janitor project |
| 15:05.38 | putnopvut | That may be a bit hard to do as a janitor project. |
| 15:06.03 | Corydon76-dig | What, to search through 500,000 lines of code to find non-serioius error messages? |
| 15:06.17 | putnopvut | Oh, I see what you're saying. |
| 15:06.28 | putnopvut | I thought you meant to add more humorous messages in :) |
| 15:06.49 | Corydon76-dig | No, no. We do fine, ourselves, when we're adding code |
| 15:07.47 | seanbright | well, i have a sense of humor, but i think most log messages should be useful and concise... not condescending or funny. |
| 15:08.07 | seanbright | there is one in ast_add_extension |
| 15:08.31 | denon | fwiw, easter eggs are frowned upon by govt agencies |
| 15:08.44 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: I think most of them are useful, even if they're funny |
| 15:09.01 | seanbright | "You have to be kidding-- add exten '' to context %s? Figure out a name and call me back. Action ignored." |
| 15:09.08 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: the problem is that when you're coding, you're not thinking about making serious error messages |
| 15:09.11 | denon | nothing wrong with being witty, but yeah, within reason |
| 15:09.47 | Corydon76-dig | At least, I'm not |
| 15:09.56 | denon | Corydon76-dig: aren't you? I always feel like it's the interface to the user - and the error message has to be clean/professional |
| 15:10.08 | denon | that, and support people will hate me if it's not :) |
| 15:10.27 | Corydon76-dig | denon: I usually doctor something up, and only later, when I'm debugging, do I improve the message |
| 15:10.46 | seanbright | i think for the most part our messages are fine |
| 15:10.49 | seanbright | 99% of them, even. |
| 15:11.17 | denon | though, I do like the "Something happened here that neither of us should be proud of", for the totally untrapped stuff, that I don't think will ever show up :) |
| 15:11.22 | seanbright | and some of the worst offenders (agent hung up on customer when they were almost there... they are going to be PISSED!) have already been taken care of |
| 15:11.23 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: I agree. But I think keeping the character of the code messages is important for long term mental health |
| 15:11.25 | seanbright | for ABE |
| 15:11.32 | seanbright | Corydon76-dig: i don't disagree |
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| 15:11.48 | seanbright | but there is a limit :) |
| 15:12.10 | Corydon76-dig | Of course |
| 15:12.23 | Qwell | kpfleming: did you happen to see any of the discussion from yesterday about dahdi udev rules? |
| 15:12.55 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: but, for example, the filename I use for astcanary. Major joke, there |
| 15:13.50 | Corydon76-dig | "alt.asterisk.canary.tweet.tweet.tweet" |
| 15:14.02 | seanbright | Corydon76-dig: yeah, it's more the condescending error messages |
| 15:14.23 | Corydon76-dig | I'm sure somebody will find that filename to be inappropriate |
| 15:14.47 | seanbright | in a lot of UI books they say you shouldn't put "OK" as an option in error dialogs, because 'no, it is not OK that you will not do what i want you to do' |
| 15:15.36 | seanbright | having a log message say "Are you kidding me?" is a little... eh |
| 15:15.37 | Corydon76-dig | Heh |
| 15:15.39 | tzafrir_laptop | an error message should be informative and unique |
| 15:15.45 | seanbright | leave that tone to #asterisk |
| 15:15.49 | seanbright | that is what they are good at |
| 15:15.57 | Qwell | ---------------------- |
| 15:15.57 | Qwell | | There was an error | |
| 15:15.57 | Qwell | | [Whatever] | |
| 15:15.57 | Qwell | ---------------------- |
| 15:15.58 | Corydon76-dig | Informative, unique, and humorous |
| 15:16.36 | seanbright | Qwell: "close" |
| 15:16.41 | denon | could make it functional to the user, [ignore] |
| 15:16.45 | denon | that's what they usually do anyway |
| 15:17.29 | tzafrir_laptop | [panic] |
| 15:17.52 | denon | hehe |
| 15:18.01 | denon | [ignore] [panic] [launch call to tech support] |
| 15:18.36 | tzafrir_laptop | denon, this is when your PBX is down? |
| 15:18.57 | twisted | btw, nevermind about my question |
| 15:19.00 | denon | tzafrir_laptop: ip connection to the support pbx, initiated to their cell phone :) |
| 15:19.18 | twisted | file helped me out.. I was being retarded |
| 15:20.26 | twisted | this is why I shouldn't be coding before noon |
| 15:20.45 | Qwell | twisted: I was once banned from writing any code after midnight |
| 15:20.50 | twisted | lol |
| 15:21.06 | twisted | self-imposed ban or otherwise? |
| 15:21.11 | Qwell | otherwise |
| 15:21.16 | kpfleming | my favorite windows app error message is 'The parameter is incorrect.' |
| 15:21.18 | twisted | niiice |
| 15:21.41 | kpfleming | Qwell: no, i did not see any IRC discussions yesterday |
| 15:21.42 | denon | kpfleming: you obviously never saw the dhcp one in Win95 |
| 15:21.52 | Qwell | kpfleming: udev rules are pretty b0rked |
| 15:22.05 | kpfleming | well, tzafrir_laptop is the one who last dinked with them |
| 15:22.09 | kpfleming | AFAIK |
| 15:22.16 | Qwell | linux/build_tools/genudevrules, tools/build_tools/genudevrules, tools/dahdi.rules |
| 15:22.26 | seanbright | my favorite chan_zap error is "Error: Success" |
| 15:22.27 | twisted | kpfleming: I always like the windows errors: "An error has occured." and that's it. |
| 15:22.32 | Qwell | dahdi-linux installs the normal rules, dahdi-tools installs the xpp rules |
| 15:22.39 | kpfleming | ouch |
| 15:22.43 | denon | twisted: I think that was OSX :) |
| 15:22.46 | Qwell | dahdi-linux only installs the rules if the udev dir exists in DESTDIR |
| 15:22.51 | twisted | denon: haha, no |
| 15:23.04 | kpfleming | that is right, because otherwise we have no idea where to put them |
| 15:23.12 | kpfleming | we can't create the directory when DESTDIR is being used |
| 15:23.15 | Qwell | I can clean it all up, I'm just not sure where it should be done |
| 15:23.29 | kpfleming | dahdi-tools should not be messing with udev rules at all |
| 15:24.05 | kpfleming | using DESTDIR means you are doing a 'temporary' install in a different place, so you are on your own for things like udev rules, library configuration, module removal, etc. |
| 15:24.20 | Qwell | kpfleming: the init scripts and ifup-hdlc are installed to DESTDIR based on whether the stuff exists on /. should those change also? |
| 15:24.43 | kpfleming | what 'stuff exists on /' |
| 15:24.47 | kpfleming | i don't understand |
| 15:25.03 | tzafrir_laptop | udev rules belong in -linux? |
| 15:25.04 | twisted | hey kp, you bringing your cueues to AZ? |
| 15:25.05 | Qwell | if /etc/init.d/ or /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ exist on the host system |
| 15:25.12 | twisted | bleh, cues |
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| 15:25.20 | Qwell | if so, it'll create those dirs in DESTDIR |
| 15:25.20 | kpfleming | tzafrir_laptop: yes... they are very linux and module specific |
| 15:25.38 | kpfleming | ugh |
| 15:26.00 | kpfleming | twisted: haven't decided... will take up a lot of luggage space in the rental SUV that i need to use for carrying other people around too |
| 15:26.45 | tzafrir_laptop | does dahdi-tools work with dahdi-bsd / dahdi-solaris/ whatever? (has zaptel been ported to dahdi on any of those?) |
| 15:26.56 | kpfleming | it is planned to be able to do so, yes |
| 15:26.59 | kpfleming | that's why we split them apart |
| 15:27.16 | kpfleming | no, nothing has been ported on those platforms, since DAHDI hasn't even reached a release for Linux yet |
| 15:28.42 | twisted | kp: good point.. I'm not sure if I want to deal with trying to check them anyway.. I'm going to try to get away with two carryons |
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| 15:29.29 | kpfleming | twisted: my cues travel in their normal case inside a gun case, so that results in a big piece of luggage |
| 15:29.32 | Qwell | so here's what I'm thinking. remove genudevrules from tools, remove dahdi.rules from tools (it isn't used anyways), make ifup-hdlc and init script installation check inside of DESTDIR for the dirs to exist |
| 15:29.38 | kpfleming | it's easy to move (has wheels and handles), but it takes up a lot of room |
| 15:29.46 | kpfleming | Qwell: +1 |
| 15:30.02 | kpfleming | if DESTDIR is in use, we should not be looking anywhere but there for anything, period |
| 15:30.28 | Qwell | tzafrir_laptop: after I do this, would you be able to move the xpp.rules to dahdi-linux? |
| 15:30.42 | tzafrir_laptop | Qwell, ok |
| 15:32.20 | kpfleming | just for future reference: dahdi-tools should be as platform-neutral as possible, and use configure script checking (or other means) when available to do platform-specific things |
| 15:32.27 | Qwell | also going to remove the duplicate (and old) genmodconf from tools |
| 15:32.55 | kpfleming | i know much of what is in there right now is very linux specific, but as we move ahead the linux-specific parts should become configure-script driven so there can be non-linux versions of them too |
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| 15:33.27 | tzafrir_laptop | hmm... but where under dahdi-linux? |
| 15:33.42 | kpfleming | for which part? |
| 15:33.55 | tzafrir_laptop | xpp.rules . It's not osmething that Kbuild should install. |
| 15:34.31 | kpfleming | we already have makefile stuff to install udev rules |
| 15:34.38 | kpfleming | and header files, and lots of other stuff |
| 15:34.42 | kpfleming | i don't see the problem |
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| 15:38.13 | wacky__ | just got a segfault, when running "file convert file.ogg file.gsm" with Asterisk 1.6..rc5 |
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| 15:41.28 | kpfleming | wacky__: you are welcome... no extra charge :-) |
| 15:41.36 | putnopvut | wacky__: Hi. You should open a bug on bugs.digium.com and include a backtrace from the crash. |
| 15:41.41 | denon | snickers |
| 15:41.56 | wacky__ | :P |
| 15:42.14 | wacky__ | must I compile the whole thing in debug more to get stack traces ? or just run through gdb ? |
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| 15:45.43 | wacky__ | not sure which category to file it in ? Have any suggestion ? |
| 15:46.56 | Qwell | wacky__: who are you again? |
| 15:49.10 | wacky__ | ? no one .. really ?! :P just a user |
| 15:49.25 | wacky__ | oh because of the address! I'm in the training class at Digium :P |
| 15:49.31 | wacky__ | a student.. |
| 15:50.03 | file | choose the one that makes the most sense |
| 15:50.25 | denon | dont worry, someone will hurl insults at you if you get it wrong |
| 15:50.46 | file | ha, lmadsen will just fix it if need be |
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| 16:02.30 | kpfleming | twisted: nope, no pool cues, but i'm still up for going to play anyway |
| 16:05.56 | wacky__ | w00t, another crash! just when hanging up a DAHDI channel.. |
| 16:07.20 | putnopvut | jeez |
| 16:07.43 | Juggie | hmmm odd..... is it not possible there may be something wrong w/ the system |
| 16:08.57 | russellb | blames centos |
| 16:09.27 | putnopvut | wacky__: heh, it looks like you recompiled with DONT_OPTIMIZE between the two crashes :) |
| 16:10.34 | wacky__ | it has to do with Local/123@context and that /n thing |
| 16:10.41 | seanbright | at first blush i thought his mantis username was wackyslut |
| 16:10.43 | wacky__ | it doesn't crash if I pass in the "/n" |
| 16:10.52 | wacky__ | hey! |
| 16:11.04 | wacky__ | salut is french for "bonjour" which is french for "hello" |
| 16:11.13 | seanbright | silly french people |
| 16:11.23 | russellb | wackyslut is funnier :) |
| 16:11.34 | putnopvut | I think "pukepail" is my favorite mantis username. |
| 16:12.05 | seanbright | there was a bug reported against php years ago which was c*ntubble@something.com |
| 16:12.22 | seanbright | let me find the archive |
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| 16:17.29 | putnopvut | seanbright: suggestion: Have two exit buttons for menuselect. One to save and exit. One to just exit. |
| 16:18.28 | putnopvut | Or, prompt the user for whether info should be saved or not. |
| 16:18.41 | russellb | also, please add a panic button |
| 16:18.45 | mvanbaak | I like the prompt version |
| 16:19.06 | mvanbaak | russellb: lol, and it will BLINK the characters 4 and 2 right ? |
| 16:19.14 | russellb | if someone selects the panic button, spew /dev/urandom to the screen |
| 16:19.47 | russellb | or do something else creepy like have a skull floating around |
| 16:19.49 | russellb | needs to work on glmenuselect |
| 16:20.00 | file | make install |
| 16:20.03 | file | whoops |
| 16:20.09 | russellb | file: could have been worse. |
| 16:20.17 | file | yeah... much worse |
| 16:20.19 | seanbright | putnopvut: if you make a change it will prompt you |
| 16:20.28 | putnopvut | oh, cool. Nevermind then :) |
| 16:20.36 | putnopvut | I just had tried it without changing anything. |
| 16:20.51 | seanbright | putnopvut: please test the latest version before posting a bug |
| 16:20.56 | seanbright | putnopvut -= 2 |
| 16:21.02 | putnopvut | dayumn |
| 16:21.29 | seanbright | http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=15130 |
| 16:21.43 | seanbright | read the second to last comment |
| 16:21.48 | seanbright | (that's me) |
| 16:22.21 | Qwell | seanbright: You're a php dev? O.o |
| 16:22.26 | seanbright | Qwell: was |
| 16:22.50 | seanbright | Qwell: nothing to show for it except for a few functions no one uses, i'm sure :) |
| 16:22.56 | seanbright | i worked for Zend for a few months, as well. |
| 16:23.01 | Qwell | nifty |
| 16:23.20 | Qwell | also, speaking of testing the latest version... |
| 16:23.23 | Qwell | looks at wacky__ |
| 16:23.34 | seanbright | putnopvut <3 |
| 16:23.41 | seanbright | i had two buttons |
| 16:23.44 | seanbright | but it was lame |
| 16:23.56 | seanbright | "Discard Changes & Exit" and "Save & Exit" |
| 16:24.42 | seanbright | but now that i think of it, i could see it getting really annoying to always get prompted to save... |
| 16:24.46 | seanbright | hmmm |
| 16:25.10 | putnopvut | wacky__: the file conversion bug may not happen if you try using a mono file instead of a multi-stream file. Still, it shouldn't crash, so that needs to be fixed. |
| 16:25.58 | seanbright | russellb: glmenuselect = opengl menuselect? |
| 16:26.25 | seanbright | russellb: as officially menuselect maintainer *ahem* i won't allow that patch to go in. |
| 16:26.28 | seanbright | (tee hee) |
| 16:26.35 | russellb | lol |
| 16:26.40 | russellb | I have veto power, damnit |
| 16:26.50 | seanbright | well that's convenient |
| 16:26.52 | lmadsen | seanbright: I suggest the buttons and method work the same as the current menuselect if possibe.... |
| 16:26.53 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: How about amenuselect: audio menuselect, with DTMF? |
| 16:26.54 | russellb | <3 |
| 16:27.08 | russellb | seanbright: I totally want a FPS menuselect |
| 16:27.15 | lmadsen | or do I misunderstand the issue? :) |
| 16:27.19 | lmadsen | russellb: lol |
| 16:27.20 | seanbright | lmadsen: how would that work exactly? |
| 16:27.24 | Corydon76-dig | wowmenuselect? |
| 16:27.35 | russellb | like, use an old quake engine or something |
| 16:27.45 | Corydon76-dig | Hah |
| 16:27.46 | russellb | sounds easy :-p |
| 16:27.54 | seanbright | chases res_sqlite3_config around with a rail gun |
| 16:28.06 | Corydon76-dig | russellb: shoot options to turn them on and off? |
| 16:28.10 | lmadsen | seanbright: with the changes you're making... does it need to use the arrow keys or something? This is the issue where people can't hit ESC and F12 right? Why not make the keys be like... 'x' and 'q' as is now in cmenuselect? |
| 16:28.14 | russellb | Corydon76-dig: yup |
| 16:28.25 | seanbright | lmadsen: because that isn't supported in newt? |
| 16:28.28 | lmadsen | admits to not having used the new interface yet, so he may be way off base :) |
| 16:28.37 | lmadsen | seanbright: really? only special keys are? odd :) |
| 16:28.58 | seanbright | lmadsen: the components themselves trap key presses, and i'm not sure there is a way to have them bubble up |
| 16:29.10 | lmadsen | ah gotcha |
| 16:29.21 | seanbright | lmadsen: and honestly, if it is going to behave *exactly* as the curses version, we might as well just get rid of the new version |
| 16:29.27 | seanbright | which i am ok with |
| 16:30.14 | lmadsen | hrmmm... maybe the new version just has a note on the screen that says, "if you can't use the key bindings, run 'make cmenuselect'" |
| 16:30.25 | lmadsen | problem solved |
| 16:31.04 | seanbright | well the introduction of the buttons were to overcome that problem |
| 16:31.10 | seanbright | problem solved |
| 16:31.21 | russellb | thinks we're bikeshedding here |
| 16:31.25 | lmadsen | aye |
| 16:31.27 | seanbright | yes. |
| 16:31.32 | lmadsen | oui. |
| 16:31.36 | seanbright | si. |
| 16:31.41 | lmadsen | arrrrgh! |
| 16:31.43 | russellb | moving on, then :) |
| 16:31.47 | wacky__ | Qwell: ? |
| 16:32.02 | lmadsen | so... about that distributed queue thing |
| 16:32.16 | lmadsen | runs and ducks and runs some more, then hits the ground before russellb throws the grenade |
| 16:32.32 | russellb | lmadsen: busy with other stuff right now |
| 16:32.34 | russellb | ask me next week |
| 16:32.40 | lmadsen | I know, I'm just trolling |
| 16:32.43 | seanbright | lmadsen: the grenade uses the F12 key... you're safe |
| 16:32.48 | lmadsen | seanbright: lol |
| 16:33.04 | seanbright | i remember when keyboards didn't have functioning F keys |
| 16:33.07 | seanbright | 112 years ago |
| 16:33.13 | seanbright | it was a simpler time then |
| 16:33.19 | lmadsen | wow, you look good for your age then |
| 16:33.32 | seanbright | botox |
| 16:33.54 | lmadsen | hmmm... this crispy crunch isn't very good... |
| 16:34.07 | seanbright | cheerios <3 |
| 16:34.26 | Corydon76-dig | lmadsen: why aren't you testing my patches? ;-) |
| 16:34.30 | lmadsen | crispy crunch, not cap'n crunch :) |
| 16:34.35 | lmadsen | Corydon76-dig: *gasp!* |
| 16:34.37 | seanbright | wtf is crispy crunch? |
| 16:34.43 | lmadsen | seanbright: chocolate bar |
| 16:35.00 | Juggie | one of the best bars ever |
| 16:35.03 | lmadsen | totally agreed |
| 16:35.07 | Juggie | second only to crunchie |
| 16:35.20 | seanbright | ah |
| 16:35.25 | lmadsen | I disagree with that statement |
| 16:35.35 | Corydon76-dig | Not Mr. Goodbar? |
| 16:35.44 | lmadsen | crunchie >! crispy crunch |
| 16:36.03 | seanbright | >!? |
| 16:36.16 | lmadsen | I just made up new syntax |
| 16:36.20 | lmadsen | not greater than |
| 16:36.30 | seanbright | crunche <= crispy crunch |
| 16:36.38 | seanbright | crunchie* |
| 16:36.52 | lmadsen | I specifically wanted not greater than |
| 16:36.54 | lmadsen | :) |
| 16:36.59 | seanbright | same diff |
| 16:37.03 | seanbright | says demorgan |
| 16:37.09 | lmadsen | fail |
| 16:37.30 | seanbright | !(x && y) === !x || !y |
| 16:37.51 | seanbright | should have used p and q i guess, but you get the idea. |
| 16:38.57 | seanbright | that was the wrong example |
| 16:39.09 | seanbright | !(p < q) === p >= q |
| 16:39.13 | seanbright | that is the one. |
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| 16:39.52 | Corydon76-dig | cracks the whip at lmadsen |
| 16:40.04 | Corydon76-dig | <3 |
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| 16:54.03 | Corydon76-dig | pokes jtodd |
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| 17:24.26 | Corydon76-dig | SFW http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html |
| 17:24.42 | lmadsen | pfffft... old news |
| 17:24.53 | lmadsen | :) |
| 17:26.14 | Corydon76-dig | Cute, though |
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| 17:28.07 | mvanbaak | Additional plugin are required ..... |
| 17:28.09 | mvanbaak | ;) |
| 17:29.25 | seanbright | what is the difference between circuit-busy and busy? |
| 17:29.31 | seanbright | local vs. remote busy? |
| 17:31.41 | Corydon76-dig | Second one is actually user-busy |
| 17:32.04 | Corydon76-dig | So, Do Not Disturb is actually more like the second |
| 17:32.08 | seanbright | ah |
| 17:32.10 | seanbright | cool |
| 17:33.13 | seanbright | interesting fact about eyeBeam |
| 17:33.35 | mvanbaak | food. brb |
| 17:33.42 | seanbright | if it gets a service unavialable back, it *refuses* to send calls to the SIP server for 120 seconds. |
| 17:34.47 | seanbright | so i've had to intercept CHANUNAVAIL and BUSY and just Answer();Playback(congestion);Wait(90);Hangup() |
| 17:34.50 | seanbright | l.a.m.e. |
| 17:37.35 | outtolunc | 90.. sheesh |
| 17:37.43 | seanbright | just in case :) |
| 17:37.54 | seanbright | the local user can hang up |
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| 18:05.29 | denon | anyone awake with some hands-on with audiocodes gateways? |
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| 18:22.09 | wacky__ | about all those crashes I get, must I update Asterisk to rc6 if I updated dahdi-complete to rc4+rc2 ? |
| 18:22.38 | wacky__ | because I'm getting all sorts of weird behaviors |
| 18:29.29 | wacky__ | hmmm... |
| 18:30.47 | russellb | stop breaking stuff |
| 18:31.57 | seanbright | it would be nice if the file list in mantis showed the name of the user who uploaded the file |
| 18:32.04 | seanbright | without having to look at the issue history |
| 18:33.13 | kpfleming | yes, it would |
| 18:33.22 | seanbright | goes off to add it |
| 18:33.24 | kpfleming | it would be especially nice if that was a hyperlink to the user page |
| 18:34.00 | russellb | ooh |
| 18:34.01 | russellb | fancy |
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| 18:47.23 | seanbright | this *should* do it |
| 18:47.25 | seanbright | http://pastebin.ca/1200293 |
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| 18:47.34 | seanbright | but i don't have mantis installed locally |
| 18:48.14 | seanbright | oh, but it doesn't have the link... |
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| 19:13.35 | tzafrir_laptop | kpfleming, Oron is working on solving all sorts of races of driver start up |
| 19:14.41 | kpfleming | ok |
| 19:14.44 | tzafrir_laptop | there's no code yet to commit, but one of the aparant changes will be a change of the /proc/xpp interface to /sys somewhere |
| 19:14.44 | kpfleming | xpp? or all over? |
| 19:14.48 | tzafrir_laptop | xpp |
| 19:15.51 | tzafrir_laptop | this is supposed to be mostly hidden from the users who will use the zaptel xpp modules and utilities |
| 19:15.51 | tzafrir_laptop | but those are part of dahdi-tools, rather than dahdi-linux |
| 19:15.55 | kpfleming | alright |
| 19:16.17 | tzafrir_laptop | goes off to move xpp.rules |
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| 21:35.22 | seanbright | lmadsen, putnopvut: if you had two buttons in the menuselect interface, one that exited without saving, and one that exited while saving, what should the text on those buttons be? |
| 21:35.48 | lmadsen | 'Exit w/o Saving' and Exit w/ Saving' ? |
| 21:35.56 | lmadsen | that probably is confusing for non-native english speakers though |
| 21:36.00 | seanbright | yeah |
| 21:36.12 | lmadsen | 'Save & Exit' / 'Exit' |
| 21:36.19 | seanbright | ok |
| 21:36.23 | seanbright | that works for me |
| 21:36.29 | lmadsen | then just prompt to verify if they REALLY want to exit without saving |
| 21:36.30 | kpfleming | 'Save Changes' 'Destroy Changes' |
| 21:36.41 | seanbright | destroy... |
| 21:36.48 | seanbright | that's a scary option |
| 21:36.57 | lmadsen | Seek and Destroy |
| 21:37.03 | lmadsen | rocks out to some Metallica |
| 21:37.09 | seanbright | neither of those imply exiting, however. |
| 21:37.34 | lmadsen | true |
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| 21:58.55 | Corydon76-dig | Oh no! One patch on the bugtracker doesn't fix every single problem this guy has. It must not be the right patch for ANY of his problems.! |
| 21:59.17 | seanbright | M? |
| 21:59.23 | Corydon76-dig | M13383 |
| 21:59.25 | MuffinMan | [ready for testing] [Asterisk] Channels/chan_sip/General 0013383: [patch] Turn off qualify on uncached realtime peers reported by Corydon76 (Karma: +442.00) http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=13383 |
| 21:59.41 | seanbright | ah |
| 21:59.55 | seanbright | would have bet it was falves |
| 22:00.00 | seanbright | i have a vendetta, it appears. |
| 22:00.08 | Corydon76-dig | You're not alone. |
| 22:00.25 | Corydon76-dig | M13451 |
| 22:00.26 | MuffinMan | [feedback] [Asterisk] Functions/func_odbc 0013451: func odbc readsql is broken in Trunk reported by falves11 (Karma: +0.50) http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=13451 |
| 22:00.37 | seanbright | heh |
| 22:00.38 | Corydon76-dig | Works for me(tm) |
| 22:00.45 | seanbright | he's got positive karma? W.T.F.!? |
| 22:00.48 | seanbright | who did that???! |
| 22:00.49 | seanbright | heh |
| 22:01.00 | Corydon76-dig | If he doesn't reply, it's going back in the negative range |
| 22:01.07 | seanbright | crosses his fingers |
| 22:01.11 | seanbright | glares at codefreeze-lap |
| 22:01.38 | Corydon76-dig | Now, now... if he's trying, that's okay |
| 22:01.54 | Corydon76-dig | We want him to improve his behavior, which is the point of the karma system. |
| 22:01.57 | seanbright | right |
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| 22:06.43 | codefreeze-lap | Why am I being glared at? |
| 22:07.03 | Corydon76-dig | karma for falves11 |
| 22:07.35 | seanbright | but i forgive you |
| 22:07.36 | seanbright | :) |
| 22:07.46 | codefreeze-lap | Oh, yeah; well, he worked many hours in my behalf to find that bug. I thought he deserved the negation of his negation |
| 22:07.53 | seanbright | agreed. |
| 22:09.07 | codefreeze-lap | reads back over the last few minutes and chuckles |
| 22:09.33 | *** topic/#asterisk-dev by seanbright -> Asterisk Development Discussion -=- http://www.asterisk.org/developers -=- Asterisk trunk: res_telepathy release tomorrow -=- Tier 2 and Tier 3.141592 support is in #asterisk -=- Automated Builds, thx file! - http://buildbot.digium.com |
| 22:09.51 | seanbright | (just added a space and another digit to pi) |
| 22:14.01 | Corydon76-dig | adds a space to seanbright |
| 22:14.35 | seanbright | h a h a ! F A I L! |
| 22:14.41 | seanbright | o h c r a p |
| 22:14.44 | denon | fail. |
| 22:16.23 | denon | good call, Russell |
| 22:16.26 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: you do anything with AGIs? |
| 22:17.06 | Corydon76-dig | M11981 |
| 22:17.08 | MuffinMan | [ready for testing] [Asterisk] Resources/res_agi/NewFeature 0011981: [branch] Report that channels are controlled by AGI reported by oej (Karma: +367.00) http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=11981 |
| 22:17.22 | putnopvut | seanbright: if you're going to add just that digit to pi, you should make it 3, not 2. |
| 22:17.25 | Corydon76-dig | needs teh tsetor |
| 22:17.26 | putnopvut | round up, my man |
| 22:17.39 | seanbright | putnopvut: always there to look out for me |
| 22:17.44 | putnopvut | Since the next digit is 6. |
| 22:17.47 | putnopvut | I do my best :) |
| 22:18.28 | *** topic/#asterisk-dev by seanbright -> Asterisk Development Discussion -=- http://www.asterisk.org/developers -=- Asterisk trunk: res_telepathy release tomorrow -=- Tier 2 and Tier 3.141593 support is in #asterisk -=- Automated Builds, thx file! - http://buildbot.digium.com |
| 22:18.38 | seanbright | Corydon76-dig: looking |
| 22:19.19 | Corydon76-dig | Russell vetoed oej's patch, so I went back and reimplemented, yet got no testing love... |
| 22:19.50 | seanbright | datastores are not in 1.4, correct? |
| 22:20.00 | Corydon76-dig | No, datastores are in 1.4 |
| 22:20.03 | seanbright | oh |
| 22:20.15 | Corydon76-dig | Maybe you're thinking of global datastores |
| 22:20.21 | Corydon76-dig | or ast_str_* API |
| 22:20.29 | putnopvut | global datastores are in 1.4, too. |
| 22:20.29 | seanbright | i was thinking channel datastores |
| 22:20.42 | Corydon76-dig | Channel datastores are definitely in 1.4 |
| 22:20.47 | putnopvut | unless you don't mean the ones in global_datastores.c |
| 22:20.53 | putnopvut | I'm staying out of this. |
| 22:20.59 | putnopvut | I'll just add to the confusion. |
| 22:21.07 | seanbright | Corydon76-dig: i can apply this to 1.4 (modified) and try it tomorrow |
| 22:21.19 | Corydon76-dig | seanbright: it applies? |
| 22:21.27 | seanbright | Corydon76-dig: i could make it apply |
| 22:21.34 | seanbright | with some... massaging |
| 22:21.43 | Corydon76-dig | Heh... that's not really testing the patch, though, is it? |
| 22:21.56 | seanbright | well, in spirit it is damn close. |
| 22:22.07 | Corydon76-dig | massages seanbright |
| 22:22.08 | seanbright | i don't run > 1.4 in production currently |
| 22:23.10 | Corydon76-dig | Wait... that just reminds me that I'm loooooonely |
| 22:23.15 | seanbright | heh |
| 22:23.38 | seanbright | ugh... agi dumphtml |
| 22:23.44 | seanbright | glad that's deprecated. |
| 22:23.59 | Corydon76-dig | Met a cute guy last night who also wants a husband... |
| 22:24.17 | seanbright | but? |
| 22:24.26 | Corydon76-dig | No buts |
| 22:24.30 | seanbright | teehee |
| 22:24.34 | seanbright | sorry to hear that |
| 22:24.35 | seanbright | zing! |
| 22:24.47 | Corydon76-dig | Haven't met him in person yet |
| 22:25.02 | Corydon76-dig | He's a nice country boy |
| 22:25.46 | Corydon76-dig | starts playing the banjo and looking at seanbright |
| 22:28.37 | seanbright | if you're anything like the boy playing the banjo in deliverance... i'll pass |
| 22:29.29 | Corydon76-dig | Naw... some of my teeth are missing, though |
| 22:29.45 | Corydon76-dig | squeeeeeeal... |
| 22:29.50 | seanbright | heh |
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| 22:30.45 | Corydon76-dig | Evening mvanbaak_ |
| 22:31.50 | seanbright | i must leave the office |
| 22:31.52 | seanbright | i go. |
| 22:32.01 | Corydon76-dig | Night, sean |
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| 23:18.27 | russellb | wibbles |
| 23:18.38 | snuff-work | wobbles |
| 23:25.16 | snuff-work | mm nice.. issue 5014 has reached the 100 posts mark.. not too many of those around.. only matched by srtp one i think |
| 23:25.28 | russellb | nods |
| 23:25.38 | russellb | 5014 had been closed for a while, but we thought of a good way to do it |
| 23:25.53 | russellb | so i reopened it to let people know it was going to be worked on |
| 23:26.26 | snuff-work | ah |
| 23:27.31 | codefreeze-lap | d3wayne: you around? |
| 23:28.49 | snuff-work | anyone know why if configure/menuselect detect iskemel.. it compiles.. but doing a ldd on say chan_gtalk.so says iksemel (blank) |
| 23:31.04 | russellb | don't know ... |
| 23:32.03 | snuff-work | mm might have to try it on another linux instead if i cant resolve.. that's why virtualbox is handy |
| 23:43.49 | seanbright | snuff-work: configure should detect it. what does config.log say about it? |
| 23:44.21 | snuff-work | mm dont have access to it right now.. |
| 23:44.44 | snuff-work | but like i said.. configure /menuselect seem happy with it.. |
| 23:44.56 | seanbright | oh |
| 23:45.18 | snuff-work | it compiles.. |
| 23:45.20 | seanbright | the ldd output disagrees |
| 23:45.30 | seanbright | i assume it fails to load as well (gtalk) |
| 23:45.40 | snuff-work | and ldd disagrees yes.. and yes module fails to load |
| 23:45.43 | russellb | that means the linker found it, but the dynamic loader doesn't find it, i guess |
| 23:45.46 | russellb | so ... hm ... |
| 23:46.05 | seanbright | ld.so.conf? |
| 23:46.10 | russellb | yeah |
| 23:46.20 | snuff-work | already added /usr/local/lib/* to ld.so.conf |
| 23:46.20 | seanbright | weird |
| 23:46.28 | seanbright | and ran ldconfig? |
| 23:46.30 | snuff-work | i will check again tonight |
| 23:46.31 | snuff-work | yep |
| 23:46.33 | seanbright | hrm. |
| 23:46.37 | seanbright | i blame Qwell |
| 23:46.39 | snuff-work | and recomp those 2 modules |
| 23:47.13 | seanbright | thoughts on newt menuselect - buttons on the bottom right, 'save & exit' then 'exit'? or 'exit' then 'save & exit'? |
| 23:47.53 | snuff-work | save exit 1st.. but i'm lazy :) |
| 23:50.48 | seanbright | works for me |
| 23:59.38 | codefreeze-lap | russellb: is that big rush of 1.4 related releases over? Can I fold things in? |