| 00:02.30 | kpfleming | we do not use the word 'stable', people make assumptions about that |
| 00:02.37 | kpfleming | it is not 'beta', it is 'released' |
| 00:03.00 | snuff-work | there u go.. kpfleming with the clarification :) |
| 00:04.57 | dexpdx | yeah, just started looking at it because pbx_lua caught my eye |
| 00:05.04 | dexpdx | but lue doesn't have an object system :( |
| 00:05.07 | dexpdx | lua |
| 00:05.21 | dexpdx | I try not to use addons |
| 00:06.39 | dexpdx | I'm starting to wonder about a pbx_perl |
| 00:09.43 | dexpdx | err, res_perl |
| 00:13.36 | kpfleming | there was, and probably still is, a res_perl |
| 00:14.07 | dexpdx | yeah, it's not a intrep dialplan like pbx_lua or pyastre |
| 00:14.30 | dexpdx | no reason to use res_perl when agi is available |
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| 01:40.39 | seanbright | welp... my m1330 is toast :-/ |
| 01:40.54 | russellb | sad :( |
| 01:41.13 | seanbright | yes. and it's like 10 months old. |
| 01:41.18 | CGMChris | Sorry to hear that Sean. |
| 01:41.53 | seanbright | now i have to try to deal with dell support |
| 01:42.17 | CGMChris | is a certified Dell reseller |
| 01:42.36 | seanbright | oh yeah? |
| 01:42.41 | CGMChris | Yes sir indeed. |
| 01:42.47 | seanbright | excellent |
| 01:42.56 | seanbright | tell me that overheating m1330s is a known problem |
| 01:43.37 | seanbright | ... that will get resolved without me having to kick and scream |
| 01:44.06 | CGMChris | Unfortunately, I can only get you discounted prices and priority support... not diagnose issues from the top of my head. I have to call support like everyone else. |
| 01:44.18 | seanbright | ah |
| 01:44.25 | seanbright | i'm trying the live chat first |
| 01:44.31 | CGMChris | a home XPS 1330 system? |
| 01:44.43 | seanbright | xps m1330 laptop |
| 01:44.50 | seanbright | 64 GB SSD |
| 01:44.51 | seanbright | mmmmmm |
| 01:44.52 | seanbright | heh |
| 01:45.08 | CGMChris | bah, Dell sells from their "home" section on their website cheaper than they list on dell.com/partner |
| 01:45.31 | seanbright | well, i don't think it's toast-toast |
| 01:45.34 | CGMChris | I get 3-6% off "DELL DEAL" prices, and the home section is still cheaper. |
| 01:45.43 | seanbright | but it's overheating for the last 48 hours |
| 01:45.50 | seanbright | screen goes all wonky and then... *choke* |
| 01:45.52 | russellb | CGMChris: can you get me a free laptop? |
| 01:45.57 | De_Mon | CGMChris do you have access to the premier site? |
| 01:46.21 | seanbright | russellb: you have to wear deal underpants |
| 01:46.22 | CGMChris | russell: Yes! Just send me a complimentary donation of $2,000 and I will send you a *** FREE *** laptop |
| 01:46.25 | seanbright | s/deal/dell/ |
| 01:46.27 | De_Mon | seanbright does it have a high end video card? |
| 01:46.28 | russellb | seanbright: sure, why not |
| 01:46.38 | CGMChris | De_Mon: Yes, I have access to Dell Premier |
| 01:46.42 | seanbright | De_Mon: yeah, geforce 8400m (i think) |
| 01:47.14 | CGMChris | SeanBright: I would advise that you open the case and verify that the copper heatsinc is not clogged with dust. This is the #1 reason for laptops to overheat/shutdown. |
| 01:47.15 | seanbright | i'm on my macbook now... also too damn hot |
| 01:47.20 | De_Mon | have you tried underclocking it? I had an older laptop that I had to pratically castrate the videocard to make it run stable |
| 01:47.30 | snuff-work | heh nvidia.. flawed chips lately.. if u believe www.theinquirer.net |
| 01:47.55 | seanbright | CGMChris: not cracking the case. the last thing i need is to hear that my warranty is voided because i did. |
| 01:48.06 | seanbright | De_Mon: i have not, but i also shouldn't have to. |
| 01:48.15 | De_Mon | CGMChris I have constantly have problems finding stuff in the regular site but not being able to find it in premier, drives me nuts like clock work every month |
| 01:48.28 | De_Mon | s/have // |
| 01:48.48 | CGMChris | Sean: Ok, but i'm telling you, my guess: The heatsync in laptops typically has a copper pipe that directs heat away from the CPU... simply blowing compressed air in this fixes 90% of overheating issues. |
| 01:49.06 | seanbright | CGMChris: alright |
| 01:49.11 | De_Mon | wait, doesn't that blow the dust INTO the laptop? |
| 01:49.24 | seanbright | no |
| 01:49.29 | CGMChris | jbot or De_Mon: Call your rep tomorrow and question them on why you have been given ridiculous prices worse than on the consumer site. Tell them you want access to the "partner" site. dell.com/partner |
| 01:49.32 | seanbright | transfers the heat to the air on the way out |
| 01:49.36 | seanbright | (i think) |
| 01:49.54 | De_Mon | hahaha silly bot |
| 01:50.13 | De_Mon | I thought you said the partner site had worse prices than the consumer site |
| 01:50.35 | CGMChris | no, partner gives 3-6% cheaper than consumer site... always cheaper than premier. you're rep is making $ off you not using partner |
| 01:51.21 | De_Mon | hmm, I wish you had told me that 3 days ago, just spend 50k |
| 01:51.22 | CGMChris | Use the "Dell Deals" section... those are always the best prices. After it gets added to the cart you get another 3-6% off. |
| 01:51.33 | CGMChris | Eh, live and learn :) |
| 01:51.44 | seanbright | i guess the upside is that i can just pull the drive out... not like i had a HD crash or something |
| 01:51.46 | De_Mon | this is server grade stuff, maybe they don't rape us as much on that equipment ;) |
| 01:51.47 | seanbright | could be worse. |
| 01:51.51 | seanbright | shrugs |
| 01:52.20 | CGMChris | De_Mon: On purchases thru partner, for example: if you exceed 4g's you get 1.2g's off. This lets you sell servers DIRT CHEAP. |
| 01:52.30 | De_Mon | will I get a new rep if I get access to the partner site? |
| 01:52.49 | CGMChris | De_Mon: No, you keep the existing rep. |
| 01:52.57 | De_Mon | they have switched on me 3 times this year so far and the current guy is crap |
| 01:53.00 | De_Mon | dangit |
| 01:53.12 | CGMChris | BTW, since neither of us is an OP... maybe this should be a private conversation? I'm sure these guys want to talk about development |
| 01:53.28 | De_Mon | er, oops thought we were in #asterisk ;) |
| 01:53.57 | CGMChris | I apologize to the developers, please, carry on! |
| 01:54.10 | De_Mon | watches intently |
| 01:54.23 | file | achoo. |
| 01:54.42 | De_Mon | back to compiling asterisk on my new dell server |
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| 02:01.08 | file | seanbright: not you again! |
| 02:01.26 | russellb | seanbright: you were voted off the island while you were away |
| 02:02.15 | seanbright | what happened? |
| 02:02.21 | seanbright | split? |
| 02:02.38 | russellb | due to the recent economic crisis, we're having to do some downsizing of the asterisk development team. |
| 02:02.44 | seanbright | heh |
| 02:02.51 | file | seanbright: connection reset by peer! |
| 02:02.53 | seanbright | that's cool |
| 02:02.57 | russellb | seanbright: j/k <3 |
| 02:04.52 | russellb | seanbright: you've actually been promoted! |
| 02:05.00 | russellb | you are now also the maintainer of .... |
| 02:05.04 | russellb | ... app_alarmreceiver ! |
| 02:05.22 | seanbright | oh happy day |
| 02:06.49 | file | I do not know if that is a promotion |
| 02:07.06 | russellb | file: you sir, now get to maintain ... |
| 02:07.55 | file | oh this should be good! |
| 02:07.57 | russellb | sorry, you get nothing. |
| 02:08.02 | file | yay |
| 02:08.07 | russellb | ! |
| 02:08.32 | De_Mon | a real promotion |
| 02:08.59 | russellb | app_url. |
| 02:09.56 | De_Mon | ahh haha this is dev related, has anyone seen this: http://www.mgamble.ca/oss/iphone_asterisk/ |
| 02:10.48 | russellb | don't think i had seen that site, but i had heard about it being done |
| 02:10.56 | russellb | maybe even bkruse had done it at one point ... |
| 02:16.37 | russellb | so ... web frameworks .. which one is best |
| 02:16.41 | russellb | discuss amongst yourselves |
| 02:16.44 | russellb | runs and hides |
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| 02:16.47 | file | emacs! |
| 02:17.17 | russellb | mod_lisp? |
| 02:20.47 | file | russellb: what are you doing here! |
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| 02:25.11 | russellb | file: getting myself in trouble |
| 02:25.23 | file | good answer |
| 02:31.13 | russellb | file: and what are you doing here |
| 02:31.24 | file | I'm... oddly active |
| 02:31.39 | file | so taking care of stuff |
| 02:31.39 | russellb | i demand that you stop that insanity |
| 02:31.54 | file | that I should have done/must eventually be done |
| 02:32.31 | file | so that I can better use my time tomorrow doing whatever I must! |
| 02:32.40 | file | that is all. |
| 02:32.51 | russellb | oic |
| 02:32.55 | russellb | yes, we have stuff and things to do. |
| 02:33.07 | file | yes :( |
| 02:35.16 | russellb | file: you used astobj1! |
| 02:35.23 | file | russellb: I'm watching a special about KA |
| 02:35.36 | file | russellb: I mirrored the registry list |
| 02:37.33 | russellb | oic. |
| 02:37.34 | russellb | WELL |
| 02:38.19 | russellb | I am headed offline. |
| 02:38.44 | russellb | file: good luck being productive |
| 02:38.47 | file | russellb: have funnnnnn, give the wife my best! |
| 02:38.54 | russellb | seanbright: and good luck fighting dell tech support! |
| 02:39.15 | russellb | file: will do! cya |
| 02:39.22 | seanbright | yeah... |
| 02:39.31 | seanbright | "vinay" is getting tired of me already |
| 02:39.37 | russellb | ha |
| 02:39.46 | Juggie | dell support, ahahah |
| 02:39.47 | Juggie | good luck |
| 02:39.53 | seanbright | yeah, |
| 02:39.55 | russellb | :( |
| 02:40.05 | seanbright | digium should buy me a laptop |
| 02:40.12 | seanbright | *cough* |
| 02:40.18 | russellb | seanbright: we could probably come up with something ... |
| 02:40.18 | Juggie | seanbright, whats the problem? |
| 02:40.25 | russellb | I could probably come up with a big enough list to justify it :-p |
| 02:40.30 | seanbright | russellb: heh |
| 02:40.34 | russellb | anyway, cya |
| 02:40.42 | Juggie | seanbright, whats wrong w/ your laptop |
| 02:40.45 | seanbright | Juggie: m1330 overheating |
| 02:40.53 | Juggie | probally a dead fan |
| 02:40.58 | Juggie | your first mistake was buying a latitude |
| 02:40.59 | seanbright | fan is fine |
| 02:41.06 | seanbright | it's an XPS |
| 02:41.10 | seanbright | jer |
| 02:41.11 | seanbright | k |
| 02:41.12 | Juggie | oh... |
| 02:41.13 | seanbright | :) |
| 02:41.19 | Juggie | i think my buddy had a problem w/ his xps too |
| 02:41.26 | Juggie | ended up getting it sent back and getting a new one |
| 02:41.27 | seanbright | and it's got a 64GB SSD, baby! |
| 02:41.28 | Juggie | which didnt overheat |
| 02:41.36 | Juggie | sounds famaliar |
| 02:41.49 | Juggie | doesnt xps have dedicated support |
| 02:41.59 | seanbright | and the greatest operating system of all time... windows vista utimate sp1 |
| 02:42.05 | seanbright | i dunno... |
| 02:42.12 | Juggie | hah gross |
| 02:42.14 | Juggie | well if the fan is fine |
| 02:42.20 | Juggie | then your going to need it replaced |
| 02:42.28 | Juggie | that will be the only solution |
| 02:42.52 | Juggie | not that the fan would be user-replacable |
| 02:42.54 | seanbright | well he is saying they are going to send out a tech with a new graphics card |
| 02:43.03 | Juggie | hah |
| 02:43.05 | Juggie | hows that gonna help |
| 02:43.11 | Juggie | your not playing 3d games i'm sure |
| 02:43.13 | seanbright | because it's a geforce |
| 02:43.21 | seanbright | and it shares a heatsink with the processor |
| 02:43.25 | Juggie | ahh |
| 02:43.34 | Juggie | well, i still dont see it overheating doing 2D |
| 02:43.56 | Juggie | that said, latitude is hands down the best laptop line dell has |
| 02:44.00 | Juggie | i cant kill my D600 |
| 02:44.02 | seanbright | agreed |
| 02:44.03 | Juggie | and my D830 rocks |
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| 02:44.23 | Juggie | that and the modular media bay |
| 02:44.26 | Juggie | which can take a second battery |
| 02:44.28 | Juggie | is kick ass |
| 02:45.43 | Juggie | seanbright, http://istunner.com/?page=071708 |
| 02:47.37 | Juggie | http://direct2dell.com/one2one/archive/2008/07/25/nvidia-gpu-update-for-dell-laptop-owners.aspx |
| 02:51.00 | seanbright | already have A12 |
| 02:51.13 | Juggie | seems like a dud :) |
| 02:52.12 | seanbright | yeah... fuck |
| 02:52.19 | seanbright | he is going to send out a tech |
| 02:52.25 | seanbright | here is what they need to say... |
| 02:52.45 | seanbright | "oh crap... really? ok... well pull out your hard drive and mail it to this address. we'll send out a new box sans-hard drive" |
| 02:55.01 | JunK-Y | Juggie: i never told you: i finally changed my old noisy and hot DELL. |
| 02:55.15 | Juggie | hahahah |
| 02:55.20 | Juggie | your girlfriends laptop |
| 02:55.25 | Juggie | its about time |
| 02:55.33 | Juggie | i've been through 2 laptops since you've been using that one |
| 02:55.59 | JunK-Y | i dont use it more often. |
| 02:56.05 | JunK-Y | i much prefer my desktop |
| 02:56.12 | Juggie | i dont use my desktop |
| 02:56.23 | Juggie | i sits in my office alone all the time |
| 02:56.26 | Juggie | i just log into it remotely |
| 02:56.49 | JunK-Y | kk |
| 02:57.54 | Juggie | i just use my laptop |
| 02:57.57 | Juggie | its 15.4 widescreen |
| 02:57.59 | Juggie | its big enough |
| 02:58.41 | JunK-Y | my laptop is a 15.4 too |
| 02:58.53 | Juggie | your old one or the new one? |
| 02:59.13 | Juggie | your old one was huge |
| 02:59.15 | Juggie | like 10 pounds |
| 02:59.16 | JunK-Y | my new one. |
| 02:59.22 | Juggie | and to make it worse, it lasted like 1hour on battery |
| 02:59.34 | Juggie | what did you get for a new one |
| 02:59.43 | JunK-Y | lenovo r61 |
| 02:59.50 | seanbright | they are replacing my motherboard, fan, and heat sink |
| 03:00.03 | Juggie | seanbright, nice nice, prob have a fixed version |
| 03:00.29 | Juggie | usually when it doesnt take too much bitching or only one tech visit to get something fixed |
| 03:00.30 | seanbright | i hope |
| 03:00.34 | Juggie | its cuz they know about it |
| 03:00.41 | Juggie | and they dont want to waste your/their time |
| 03:00.52 | seanbright | "Well, XPS is a high performance computer and it does get hot at times, however I understand the value of your time and would not like to you contact us with that Issue, hence I am replacing the fan and the heat sink too." |
| 03:05.16 | Juggie | thats just a way of fixing it without admitting blame |
| 03:06.59 | Juggie | jarred! |
| 03:07.29 | jsmith | Yes? |
| 03:07.33 | jsmith | blinks |
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| 03:08.36 | seanbright | donnnnie! |
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| 03:10.28 | De_Mon | ls |
| 03:10.30 | De_Mon | oops |
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| 03:10.36 | seanbright | . |
| 03:10.37 | seanbright | .. |
| 03:10.41 | seanbright | porno.ogg |
| 03:12.42 | seanbright | oh come on... that was hilarious. |
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| 03:29.00 | Juggie | seanbright, you rang? |
| 03:29.04 | Juggie | and btw, its y not ie. |
| 03:29.18 | seanbright | oh |
| 03:29.24 | seanbright | well that changes everything |
| 03:30.24 | seanbright | you screamed jarred, i screamed donnnny. |
| 03:30.26 | seanbright | that's all. |
| 03:30.37 | seanbright | (double-r double-nn) |
| 03:31.08 | seanbright | nevermind. |
| 03:31.16 | seanbright | runs off to bed |
| 03:33.26 | jsmith | doesn't have a double-r in his name |
| 03:34.01 | seanbright | which is why i added the double-nn to donny's name |
| 03:34.16 | seanbright | but it just ended up being not funny at all. |
| 03:56.56 | JunK-Y | i see http://astridevcon.pbwiki.com/ has nothing regarding our work on the CLI, will push something during week-end. |
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| 05:06.45 | codefreeze-lap | kpfleming: still up? |
| 05:12.30 | lmadsen | my guess would be unlikely... |
| 05:12.51 | lmadsen | but I'm here! :) |
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| 05:58.37 | codefreeze-lap | yay! lmadsen is around! |
| 05:58.48 | lmadsen | how do you know? that was almost an hour ago? |
| 06:00.20 | codefreeze-lap | I'm psychic, I guess. You are up **late** |
| 06:01.07 | lmadsen | I know... I'm setting up my home office |
| 06:01.10 | lmadsen | my new desk arrived today |
| 06:01.23 | lmadsen | I had to shut down and move my servers across the room and redo all the electrical and network |
| 06:01.49 | lmadsen | things are MUCH cleaner now. I'm just fixing my camera now because I think I have a corrupted picture on the SD card. Clear that out, then I can take some pics |
| 06:01.59 | lmadsen | I keep getting distracted though |
| 06:02.08 | codefreeze-lap | One of those build-it-yourself desks you have to assemble? |
| 06:02.56 | lmadsen | not really... I special ordered it. All I had to do was screw 2 bolts into each leg on the return, and a single bolt to attach the return to the base |
| 06:03.59 | codefreeze-lap | I had assemble my work area.... some... what, 10-15 years ago...? wow |
| 06:04.39 | lmadsen | heh... I just moved in though a couple months ago |
| 06:04.44 | lmadsen | I finally have all my furniture now |
| 06:05.00 | lmadsen | other than a chair for my desk... currently using a backless drum stool :) |
| 06:05.12 | lmadsen | funny enough... it's not that uncomfortable |
| 06:05.26 | codefreeze-lap | I was going to say...sounds.... comfy! |
| 06:09.36 | lmadsen | we'll see what my back says after a whole day of sitting here :) |
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| 06:15.47 | codefreeze-lap | Well, my boys are home now, I can go to bed.... nighty night |
| 06:17.54 | lmadsen | night! |
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| 12:26.00 | snuff-home | ello russellb |
| 12:27.11 | russellb | hey |
| 12:27.48 | snuff-home | i will get around to finishin ao2 jabber.. 1 ref away it seems.. |
| 12:28.05 | russellb | :)\ |
| 12:28.44 | snuff-home | for now.. i leave until i feel i can cope with the fustration.. |
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| 13:19.23 | lmadsen | morning! |
| 13:19.27 | lmadsen | putnopvut: you're a star! :) |
| 13:21.12 | jsmith | lmadsen: Does that make me a rhombus? |
| 13:21.21 | lmadsen | at least! |
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| 13:22.58 | codefreeze-lap | russellb: what cmds do I need to use, to reform the configure file? |
| 13:24.46 | codefreeze-lap | normally, I'd use aclocal, and autoconf, which go OK... |
| 13:26.24 | file | bootstrap.sh |
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| 13:29.57 | lmadsen | codefreeze-lap: you're up early for how late you were up |
| 13:30.03 | lmadsen | I got to bed around 3:30am.... |
| 13:30.51 | codefreeze-lap | Uh, sounds like you beat me in both directions, lmadsen!!! |
| 13:31.23 | lmadsen | hehe.... I got up around 8:45am, had a shower etc.... sat down to look at email and irc... and now need to make some breakfast and fix my kernel panicing server |
| 13:33.11 | codefreeze-lap | file: many thanks! |
| 13:33.58 | codefreeze-lap | lmadsen: have your server read "The Hitchhiker's Guide". |
| 13:34.03 | ctooley | is dreading the thought of diving into chan_iax2.c to figure out what's happening to this vanishing registration problem. |
| 13:34.43 | ctooley | or threaten your server with poetry should it not decide to stay alive. |
| 13:34.46 | lmadsen | I'm dreading it for you |
| 13:34.55 | lmadsen | wouldn't that kill it>? |
| 13:35.14 | ctooley | right, but if it's dying anyway, you might as well get the satisfaction of making it suffer first. |
| 13:36.08 | lmadsen | darn... I still need to find some sort of outlet splitter... |
| 13:36.51 | lmadsen | anyone know if a laptop, 2 desktop computers, 2 polycom phones, a set of computer speakers, a 24 port switch and a linksys router are too much for a single outlet? |
| 13:37.30 | lmadsen | I really need one of those things I plug into the outlet to determine how much ampage I'm using |
| 13:37.50 | ctooley | depends on how powerful the speakers are and how big the powersupply in the desktops are. |
| 13:38.19 | jsmith | lmadsen: On a 20-amp circuit, you're probably OK... on a 15-amp circuit, you're probably pushing it a bit close |
| 13:39.27 | lmadsen | speakers are logitech 5.1, and I don't have them up too loud usually |
| 13:39.29 | ctooley | Polycom phones usually have peak usage less than an amp, so there's 2 tops, my laptop is a power monster and it only takes 1.5 A, a desktop usually only about 3 (plus monitor is a about 3 more), the switch and router are probably another 1.5 |
| 13:39.36 | lmadsen | jsmith: PS's I think are around 450w |
| 13:39.46 | ctooley | On the brick or power supply shows max amp draw |
| 13:39.49 | lmadsen | jsmith: ya... I just looked at the circuit breakers and they are 15 amps |
| 13:40.21 | lmadsen | ya... computers are under the desk on their shelf... so not too easy to look at the PS |
| 13:41.54 | eliel | snuff-home: ping |
| 13:41.59 | lmadsen | maybe I should run an extension cord to another outlet for a couple things... but gotta figure out whether this whole wall is on a single circuit I suppose |
| 13:42.38 | ctooley | are you on 110V power or 220V power? |
| 13:42.59 | lmadsen | 110v |
| 13:43.03 | lmadsen | afaik |
| 13:43.13 | ctooley | so 450W == 110V/X amps |
| 13:43.16 | ctooley | errrr |
| 13:43.23 | ctooley | 110V * Xamps |
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| 13:43.48 | lmadsen | so 450w / 110v == amps? |
| 13:44.03 | jsmith | lmadsen: Roughy... |
| 13:44.15 | lmadsen | at peak pull I suppose |
| 13:44.48 | lmadsen | I guess the other thing is I was using all this stuff on the other wall, plus cable modem, TV, xbox, and PVR :) |
| 13:45.04 | jsmith | At peak pull, ignoring RMS measurements and all that jazz |
| 13:45.09 | lmadsen | right |
| 13:45.32 | ctooley | yeah, if the outlets are on the same circuit, you're pulling too much. |
| 13:45.46 | ctooley | you're going to start either tripping the breaker or worse (you better hope the breaker trips) |
| 13:45.49 | lmadsen | I think I should be ok... I was running a lot more on the other wall before, and the breaker layout seems to suggest 1 breaker wall.... |
| 13:46.02 | lmadsen | ctooley: ya for sure |
| 13:46.22 | lmadsen | hrmmm... I suppose I have enough stuff in here now that I need to determine where those breakers go for the plugs |
| 13:47.23 | ctooley | wouldn't be the worst use of your time, finding them when you're in the middle of something and the breaker trips is a lot more infuriating. |
| 13:48.55 | lmadsen | totally |
| 13:49.55 | lmadsen | maybe the office downstairs has an electrical plan... hrmmm |
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| 13:56.10 | ctooley | possibly, if not you can request one, the city will have one on file and you can get one from them (at least that's a requirement in the States). There might be a fee involved, but in most places I've lived it's $15 or something like that. |
| 13:56.51 | jsmith | Worse comes to worse, you hire an electrician and a drywall guy and buy a hammer :-) |
| 13:57.00 | jsmith | laughs like a mad scientist |
| 13:57.37 | Corydon76-dig | lmadsen: We have devices for mapping out which circuit goes to which breaker. It'll run you $30, maybe |
| 13:57.39 | ctooley | Plus, you get to install new outlets and network wiring during the process if you choose to. :) |
| 13:58.34 | Corydon76-dig | It's very repetitive, but it's fairly easy. I recommend buying a labeler if you don't already have one and labeling each outlet with the number of the breaker each goes to |
| 13:59.49 | ctooley | Yeah, the problem with those is that it's not nearly as exact as tracing a cat 5 wire. You get a lot more bleed through. |
| 13:59.51 | Corydon76-dig | Plug the first device into the outlet, scan the breakers with the other device. It'll alert when you pass over the breaker that matches your outlet |
| 14:00.33 | Corydon76-dig | And... it's nondestructive on your walls and is fairly cheap... |
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| 14:00.35 | ctooley | It's usually pretty good, but if you have a place where things are chained together a lot, it gets messy and might not work at all. |
| 14:01.13 | Corydon76-dig | ctooley: I think he's in a modern building that has only been wired once, so it shouldn't cause any problems for those devices |
| 14:01.32 | Corydon76-dig | I grant you that older buildings that have been wired 5 ways to Sunday are a challenge |
| 14:03.05 | Corydon76-dig | lmadsen: btw, the number of patches for you to test are stacking up... |
| 14:03.10 | Corydon76-dig | M13651 |
| 14:03.12 | MuffinMan | [ready for testing] [Asterisk] Functions/func_realtime 0013651: [patch] Make func_realtime work more like app_realtime reported by Corydon76 (Karma: +442.00) http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=13651 |
| 14:05.08 | lmadsen | Corydon76-dig: I know... :( I'm getting *really* close to having this clustering stuff done for this customer (last node goes in tonight!) and I hope then I will have much more time for testing patches |
| 14:05.13 | lmadsen | in fact... I know I will |
| 14:05.24 | Corydon76-dig | woot |
| 14:05.25 | lmadsen | I'm just clearing stuff off my plate so I can get to working on the bug tracker nearly full time |
| 14:05.36 | lmadsen | this is the last big project I haven't got done yet |
| 14:05.48 | lmadsen | I've gotten all the other ones done; they are just in maintenance mode now |
| 14:06.09 | Corydon76-dig | I also have a branch ready for you to test... realtime_update2 |
| 14:06.22 | lmadsen | wow... that's like at least 4 things for me to test |
| 14:06.40 | lmadsen | plus I have res_clialiases... and a few other patches I know you've wanted me to test |
| 14:06.56 | lmadsen | w00t! all servers back up! |
| 14:07.14 | lmadsen | now... I just need to get some curtains for the living room heh |
| 14:07.43 | Corydon76-dig | My boyfriend might be able to help you with that... ;-) |
| 14:08.01 | Corydon76-dig | He has that gift for design |
| 14:09.40 | lmadsen | heh... no thanks... I'm pretty good at home design myself :) |
| 14:09.58 | lmadsen | grew up in a family that did constant home renovation, and a mom that knows how to use power tools |
| 14:10.17 | lmadsen | I remember going away to my friends for 3-4 days... came home to see my mom built a deck on the front of the house all by herself |
| 14:11.57 | lmadsen | so far... http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=837293&l=9f9bf&id=512680761 |
| 14:13.37 | russellb | snazzy |
| 14:16.41 | tzanger | lmadsen: nice |
| 14:16.54 | lmadsen | thx! :) |
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| 14:20.23 | De_Mon | soo, dahdi requires compiled kernel source to install, but only checks to see if it has the source |
| 14:20.41 | codefreeze-lap | russellb: about 13557, getting rid of bzero, bcopy... applied to trunk... uh.... do I block it from 1.6.0, and 1.6.1....? |
| 14:23.12 | russellb | if it's new code in 1.6, then it's technically a regression, and should just be merged into both |
| 14:25.24 | tzafrir_laptop | De_Mon, dahdi requires kernel headers |
| 14:26.09 | De_Mon | I gave it headers and it wanted the .config, I added the .config to the headers and it generated hundreds of errors before I canceled it |
| 14:26.24 | De_Mon | gave it the source (uncompiled) same result, compiled the kernel and it worked... |
| 14:26.27 | tzafrir_laptop | De_Mon, if you want to see what ammount of compilation of the kernel source is needed, see build_tools/test_git_kernel |
| 14:26.43 | tzafrir_laptop | what distro do you use? |
| 14:26.52 | De_Mon | debian etch mostly |
| 14:26.58 | De_Mon | kernels from etch anyways ;) |
| 14:27.24 | tzafrir_laptop | it is linux-headers-`uname -r` |
| 14:28.36 | tzafrir_laptop | the fact that it did not find the .config file is an indication to the fact that you did not have the "kernel sources" directory installed |
| 14:28.36 | De_Mon | yeah I simlinked /usr/src/linux to that (and had to simplink the /boot/config-<kver> to the directory to get past the "the kernel source for <kver> is not installed message. |
| 14:28.58 | De_Mon | Indeed, I had the linux-headers package installed |
| 14:29.03 | tzafrir_laptop | don't use the /usr/src/linux symlink . You'll probably link it to the wrong place |
| 14:29.19 | tzafrir_laptop | do you use your own kernel or a distro one? |
| 14:29.35 | De_Mon | it's the distros |
| 14:29.45 | tzafrir_laptop | uname -r |
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| 14:30.20 | De_Mon | linux-headers-2.6.18-6/ |
| 14:30.20 | De_Mon | linux-kbuild-2.6.18/ |
| 14:30.20 | De_Mon | linux-source-2.6.18/ |
| 14:30.35 | De_Mon | linux -> linux-source-2.6.18/ |
| 14:30.44 | tzafrir_laptop | ls -l /lib/modules/2.6.18-6-686/build |
| 14:30.46 | De_Mon | jonw@osprey:/usr/src$ uname -r |
| 14:30.46 | De_Mon | 2.6.18-6-686 |
| 14:31.20 | De_Mon | it doesn't exist |
| 14:31.27 | codefreeze-lap | russellb: It's a regression? OK, I'll merge into 1.6.x |
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| 14:32.00 | russellb | yeah, i'm fine with merging it .. |
| 14:32.06 | De_Mon | At one point I was simlinking build into the headers but after looking at the Makefile I said scerw it and just did /usr/src/linux |
| 14:33.04 | De_Mon | I thought it kind of odd that dadhi was looking for the .config which isn't included in the headers package to be beginwith |
| 14:33.19 | tzafrir_laptop | dpkg -l linux-headers-`uname -r` |grep ^i |
| 14:34.00 | De_Mon | I also checked out dadhi as some 'all-in-one' package for linux that may have something to do with it |
| 14:34.39 | De_Mon | http://svn.digium.com/svn/dahdi/linux-complete/trunk |
| 14:34.42 | tzafrir_laptop | De_Mon, would you please help me debug your problem? |
| 14:35.03 | De_Mon | ya ya, just makin sure that's not significate |
| 14:35.29 | tzafrir_laptop | it checks for .config because this is one file that must reside in a configured kernel tree |
| 14:35.29 | De_Mon | ii linux-headers-2.6.18-6 2.6.18.dfsg.1-22etch2 Commo |
| 14:35.39 | De_Mon | there is no linux-headers-`uname -r` |
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| 14:38.05 | De_Mon | the source doesn't have a -6 on it, but I doubt that's relevant |
| 14:45.01 | tzafrir_laptop | De_Mon, this is what you're missing |
| 14:45.19 | tzafrir_laptop | aptititude install linux-headers-2.6.18-6-686 |
| 14:46.24 | De_Mon | lowers his head in shame |
| 14:49.19 | seanbright | in case you missed the exciting conclusion from last night... i am getting a new mobo, heat sink, and fan for my currently dead laptop |
| 14:49.27 | seanbright | all free though, so that is pretty nice. |
| 14:50.09 | De_Mon | you wouldn't happen to have a dahdi/asterisk patch/branch with debian control files in it somewhere would you? |
| 14:57.37 | tzafrir_laptop | I have a deb package |
| 14:57.58 | tzafrir_laptop | not yet uploaded, anywhere |
| 14:59.15 | tzafrir_laptop | http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/pkg-voip/README?view=markup |
| 14:59.41 | tzafrir_laptop | svn://svn.debian.org/pkg-voip/dahdi-linux/trunk |
| 14:59.48 | tzafrir_laptop | svn://svn.debian.org/pkg-voip/dahdi-tools/trunk |
| 14:59.53 | tzafrir_laptop | not yet any asterisk |
| 15:00.02 | tzafrir_laptop | libss7 is there as well, though |
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| 15:12.54 | De_Mon | mmm I only looked for asterisk yesterday, still 2 out of 3 is great to hear |
| 15:13.43 | atis_work | i wonder what's 1.6.0.1 release is about.. it's changelog don't have any bugfixes |
| 15:14.01 | tzafrir_laptop | De_Mon, also try #debian-voip at irc.oftc.net for questions specific to those packages |
| 15:14.59 | De_Mon | cool, I'll be sure to hang out in there for a while |
| 15:15.13 | Qwell | atis_work: sample config was very very wrong |
| 15:15.33 | Qwell | atis_work: for new users of DAHDI, that's...bad. |
| 15:16.01 | atis_work | hmm, perhaps. and there was no other bugfixes commited? :) |
| 15:16.07 | Qwell | correct |
| 15:16.21 | Qwell | well, presumably |
| 15:18.01 | tzafrir_laptop | Qwell, don't seperate config sections work in 1.6.0? |
| 15:18.08 | tzafrir_laptop | 1.6.1, then? |
| 15:18.13 | Qwell | 1.6.1 |
| 15:18.28 | Qwell | it was added to trunk, blocked in 1.6.0, then the config was added and merged to 1.6.0 |
| 15:18.51 | Qwell | angler spent a bunch of time trying to figure out why it didn't work, and eventually found the problem was just a config issue |
| 16:10.48 | angler | damn the sample file! :) |
| 16:11.48 | putnopvut | angler speaks! |
| 16:13.47 | Qwell | angler: so I assume you saw the conversation above, about the release |
| 16:22.49 | angler | Qwell, yea just what atis_work asked about |
| 16:32.36 | mvanbaak | lmadsen: ping |
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| 16:34.05 | mvanbaak | hey ctooley |
| 16:34.14 | ctooley | hey mvanbaak |
| 16:34.44 | mvanbaak | the openser boxen back in production yet ? |
| 16:38.02 | ctooley | nope, though now I know the issue |
| 16:38.06 | ctooley | as of yesterday. :( |
| 16:39.27 | mvanbaak | damn |
| 16:39.31 | mvanbaak | took some time |
| 16:39.51 | ctooley | yeah, issue not so obvious |
| 16:44.05 | mvanbaak | we borked 3 CLI commands during astridevcon |
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| 16:56.09 | lmadsen | mvanbaak: pong |
| 16:56.17 | Juggie | lmadsen: doink |
| 16:56.57 | Juggie | lmadsen, got tickets to any leafs games? |
| 16:57.09 | lmadsen | is now busy, please leave a msg. |
| 16:59.30 | Juggie | waits for the beep |
| 17:02.06 | mvanbaak | lmadsen: see my last commit |
| 17:02.20 | mvanbaak | commit asterisk trunk 147853 |
| 17:02.20 | MuffinMan | Error calling said() for svn: RuntimeError unknown opt_revision_t type |
| 17:02.32 | mvanbaak | gheh |
| 17:02.52 | mvanbaak | lmadsen: rmudget pointed out some broken CLI commands. I fixed them based on his feedback |
| 17:07.46 | lmadsen | cool |
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| 17:16.50 | eliel | mvanbaak: ping (http://pastebin.com/m3a734f9a) |
| 17:17.13 | eliel | mvanbaak: I am trying to define the see-also xml |
| 17:17.14 | ctooley | mvanbaak, and now that I know what the issue is, I've come up with a "solution" to the problem, though it's not the most elegant one. |
| 17:19.16 | eliel | what I am thinking is if we put a see-also of an application or function we could print the synopsis of that app/fun, example: |
| 17:19.20 | eliel | See also: |
| 17:19.40 | eliel | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:20.23 | eliel | hmmm, no, I say nothing, we will have a problem with the order of evaluation of each register |
| 17:23.16 | mvanbaak | yup |
| 17:23.50 | mvanbaak | impossible |
| 17:24.22 | mvanbaak | See also: |
| 17:24.33 | ctooley | double compile loop or completely looking everything up on the fly would be the only way to do it without introducing documentation dependencies that may very well end in a loop which deadlocks. Any way you look at it, far more complex than the value of the synopsis. |
| 17:24.45 | mvanbaak | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:26.24 | De_Mon | hey seanbright, so your overheating laptop issue was more than just a clogged heatsink eh? |
| 17:26.33 | seanbright | De_Mon: indeed |
| 17:26.38 | Qwell | you have an HP? |
| 17:26.41 | De_Mon | I've been stuck on one hell of a support call for the last 1 1/2 hours ;p |
| 17:26.42 | seanbright | dell |
| 17:26.49 | seanbright | xps m1330 |
| 17:26.50 | seanbright | it's hawt |
| 17:26.53 | seanbright | (literally) |
| 17:26.57 | Qwell | I've been trying to get HP to send me new RAM... :( |
| 17:27.10 | ctooley | Ah yes, my Inspiron 9400 has lots of heat problems. |
| 17:27.11 | Qwell | they won't send me one unless I give them a credit card. with their track record - screw that |
| 17:27.24 | seanbright | i spent about 25 minutes on chat with a dell support rep and they are sending out a tech with a new mobo, heat sink, and fan |
| 17:27.28 | Qwell | better of buying it from newegg...which is sad |
| 17:27.29 | ctooley | if I don't provide a lot of ventilation for it, it's toast. |
| 17:27.55 | seanbright | ctooley: yeah... the support guy tried to sell me a laptop cooling pad |
| 17:28.11 | ctooley | right |
| 17:28.31 | seanbright | never had a support rep do the hardsell before |
| 17:28.32 | eliel | mvanbaak: that sounds good to me |
| 17:28.43 | Qwell | seanbright: can you really call them "support"? |
| 17:28.47 | seanbright | and my whole point to him was "look... yeah it may help but i shouldn't *need* it." |
| 17:29.04 | seanbright | Qwell: honestly, this guy was good. didn't take me through all the tier 1 b.s. |
| 17:29.06 | De_Mon | i've never understood that laptop cooling pad, if its needed include it if not why do I need it! |
| 17:29.20 | seanbright | Qwell: within 5 minutes he said "it's either the mother board or the lcd display." |
| 17:29.29 | Qwell | seanbright: ended up being the HD? :p |
| 17:30.01 | seanbright | Qwell: no, thankfully. |
| 17:30.08 | seanbright | _but_ |
| 17:30.13 | seanbright | i think i want to replace that anyway |
| 17:30.23 | seanbright | it's a 64GB SSD |
| 17:30.33 | seanbright | and i'm worried that one day it will just magically stop working |
| 17:30.51 | seanbright | not to mention i can probably put a 180 GB SATA drive in here in place of it |
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| 17:33.55 | mvanbaak | gheh, I never had trouble with support or anything |
| 17:34.00 | mvanbaak | but I only buy IBM |
| 17:36.04 | seanbright | http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/System_Drives/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=341-5582 |
| 17:36.13 | seanbright | and that is *half* the price it was about 3 months ago |
| 17:36.42 | seanbright | tee hee... "Boasting a storage capacity of 64 GB, it enables you to store large amounts of data." |
| 17:42.17 | mvanbaak | ugh |
| 17:42.31 | mvanbaak | I cant get this #if bla stuff right |
| 17:42.43 | mvanbaak | maybe it's a sign that I should stop coding for today |
| 17:42.54 | mvanbaak | #elif defined(__OpenBSD__) || defined(__FreeBSD__) || defined(__NetBSD__) || defined(__APPLE__) |
| 17:42.59 | mvanbaak | ... |
| 17:43.03 | mvanbaak | #else |
| 17:43.13 | mvanbaak | now inside that elif I want a special case for OpenBSD |
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| 17:43.18 | mvanbaak | how |
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| 17:43.31 | mvanbaak | #if defined(__OPENBSD__) |
| 17:43.33 | Qwell | #if defined(__OpenBSD__) ... #endif |
| 17:43.35 | seanbright | yes |
| 17:43.46 | mvanbaak | #include "something.h" |
| 17:43.49 | mvanbaak | #endif |
| 17:43.51 | seanbright | make it '# if...' |
| 17:43.58 | seanbright | i think the space adds clarity |
| 17:43.59 | mvanbaak | ^^^ not working |
| 17:44.07 | Qwell | mvanbaak: OpenBSD != OPENBSD |
| 17:44.21 | seanbright | Qwell != qWeLl |
| 17:44.31 | mvanbaak | oh fuck me ! |
| 17:44.42 | Qwell | no thank you |
| 17:44.42 | seanbright | i'm flattered. |
| 17:45.06 | mvanbaak | hangs himself |
| 17:45.26 | seanbright | that might be a tad bit excessive |
| 17:45.30 | jameswf | heh |
| 17:45.32 | mvanbaak | gheh |
| 17:45.38 | mvanbaak | man, how stupid |
| 17:45.42 | seanbright | it's just some preprocessor stuff |
| 17:45.43 | Qwell | jameswf: tested yet? |
| 17:46.26 | jameswf | Yeah actualy to kill two birds I am doing all my rpm devel stuff on it as I assume people will be beating own the doors soon |
| 17:46.58 | jameswf | it is my devel whore :) |
| 17:47.03 | Qwell | trixbox will replace everything that have with it anyways |
| 17:47.07 | Qwell | s/that/they/ |
| 17:47.33 | jameswf | Qwell: did they give you 5K ? |
| 17:47.42 | Qwell | I wish...but no |
| 17:47.52 | Qwell | I do know who gave them that quote though :) |
| 17:48.14 | jameswf | still wonders where the $11m went... must have been like the bail out money, dont ask dont tell |
| 17:48.34 | seanbright | they spent it on an executive retreat |
| 17:48.38 | russellb | lol |
| 17:48.41 | russellb | trolls |
| 17:48.45 | russellb | but i like it, carry on |
| 17:48.52 | Qwell | russellb: you know you were thinking it too :p |
| 17:49.39 | jameswf | i did my trolling last week with the whole tb gui update... got a good 60+ post out of it |
| 17:49.40 | Corydon76-dig | Someday we'll find it -- the rainbow connection -- the lovers, the dreamers, and you. |
| 17:50.22 | jsmith | Corydon76-dig: The "Kermit the Frog" version? |
| 17:50.39 | Corydon76-dig | jsmith: is there any other? |
| 17:50.59 | jsmith | Corydon76-dig: Unfortuantely, yes :-( |
| 17:51.13 | jameswf | that would be a good logo... maybe some of the 11M wis going to Henson for rights to use Kermet |
| 17:51.16 | jsmith | has an acappella version of someone impersonating Kermit the Frog |
| 17:51.59 | jameswf | kermet e frog says jump in to asterisk under 30 minutes with trixbox.... |
| 17:52.05 | Corydon76-dig | jsmith: it's too bad that we don't have a recording of Sinatra singing that |
| 17:52.33 | Corydon76-dig | but it's nice that he sang "It's not easy being green" |
| 17:53.13 | Corydon76-dig | and a nice backstory, too |
| 17:56.58 | seanbright | anyone here using irssi? |
| 17:57.06 | russellb | used to ... |
| 17:57.18 | seanbright | how would i make it highlight my name no matter where it is in the line? |
| 17:57.33 | seanbright | right now it only does it if it's at the beginning |
| 17:57.38 | tzafrir_laptop | I tried. it's generally nice to be able to use an irc client from my screen session |
| 17:57.53 | tzafrir_laptop | but I just need the immediate window alerts |
| 17:57.53 | russellb | seanbright: dunno, sorry |
| 17:57.59 | seanbright | russellb: you're fired. |
| 17:58.15 | tzafrir_laptop | seanbright, doesn't it? |
| 17:58.29 | tzafrir_laptop | blabla seanbright, doesn't it? |
| 17:58.42 | jsmith | seanbright: /help hlight |
| 17:58.44 | seanbright | correct... i think i found it |
| 17:58.51 | seanbright | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:58.56 | seanbright | ok, someone try again |
| 17:58.58 | seanbright | :) |
| 17:59.03 | tzafrir_laptop | blabla seanbright, doesn't it? |
| 17:59.11 | jsmith | Boy wish seanbright would quit futzing with irssi and do some coding... |
| 17:59.12 | seanbright | resplendid... |
| 17:59.46 | seanbright | i've got a little somethin' somethin' i am working on |
| 17:59.59 | seanbright | nothing useful or anything |
| 18:00.18 | seanbright | menuselect_slang.c |
| 18:00.20 | seanbright | (kidding) |
| 18:00.40 | seanbright | menuselect_irssi.c! |
| 18:00.47 | mvanbaak | menuselect_xmlrpc.c |
| 18:00.50 | seanbright | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:00.53 | seanbright | hehe |
| 18:00.58 | mvanbaak | so you can control menuselect with a webapp |
| 18:01.21 | mvanbaak | hey! it's in line with project pinemango ! |
| 18:01.33 | seanbright | heh |
| 18:01.54 | mvanbaak | I want a REST interface for it as well |
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| 18:03.46 | tzafrir_laptop | menuselect_autoconf |
| 18:03.51 | seanbright | ugh |
| 18:04.08 | seanbright | looks around for a dead horse... |
| 18:05.10 | tzafrir_laptop | I'm just surprised by how much work goes to this interface without it doing its basic job well |
| 18:05.34 | seanbright | how does it not do it's basic job well? |
| 18:06.18 | tzafrir_laptop | can you configure some different modules to build / or not, and then go back and forth in the asterisk version tree? |
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| 18:06.35 | tzafrir_laptop | in trunk |
| 18:06.59 | tzafrir_laptop | at some point the definition will not be good enough and you'll have to delete your selection |
| 18:07.06 | JerJer | I'm lookin for any one that is available to work on the answering machine detection code (paid project) |
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| 18:07.55 | JerJer | anyone reallly bored and need cash? :) |
| 18:08.06 | seanbright | tzafrir_laptop: i don't really understand, but i guess autoconf is able to do that for you? |
| 18:08.40 | seanbright | looks at app_amd |
| 18:09.17 | seanbright | eh... not _that_ bored... :) |
| 18:09.17 | tzafrir_laptop | I recently had a problem with chan_iax2 I wanted to track down. I wanted to build just chan_iax2 and "whatever it needs", and have a minimal build time |
| 18:09.23 | tzafrir_laptop | How do I do that? |
| 18:09.37 | seanbright | tzafrir_laptop: i don't believe you can |
| 18:10.26 | seanbright | but i hardly consider that menuselect's "basic job" |
| 18:10.35 | tzafrir_laptop | with dummy-select it's plain simple: exclude channel_.* app_.* cdr_.* #etc |
| 18:10.39 | seanbright | it's basic job is to allow end-users to select which modules they want built and installed |
| 18:10.44 | seanbright | which it does just fine |
| 18:10.44 | tzafrir_laptop | include chan_iax2 |
| 18:11.40 | hardwire | chan_iax3 ooooh! |
| 18:11.46 | tzafrir_laptop | menuselect creates more usability issues than the ones it selves, IMHO |
| 18:12.45 | seanbright | tzafrir_laptop: you aren't the target user |
| 18:13.10 | tzafrir_laptop | give me an example scenario where menuselelct helps |
| 18:14.09 | seanbright | i'm sorry, what? |
| 18:14.17 | hardwire | I personally don't use menuselect |
| 18:15.20 | tzafrir_laptop | to do a simple thing such as disable one module, you have to go though multiple menus |
| 18:15.30 | tzafrir_laptop | no way to automate things |
| 18:15.30 | russellb | yes, and how did you do that before? |
| 18:15.31 | seanbright | menuselect allows users to optionally enable/disable modules to be built, sounds to be installed, compiler flags to be set |
| 18:15.34 | russellb | oh wait, you couldn't do it at all |
| 18:15.53 | russellb | how would you automate it? create a custom menuselect.makeopts file |
| 18:15.58 | russellb | ugh ... how many times have we had this conversation |
| 18:16.01 | russellb | it is such a waste of time |
| 18:16.42 | tzafrir_laptop | russellb, currently I have a very simple and descriptive build_tools/conf file |
| 18:16.49 | tzafrir_laptop | it is normally empty |
| 18:16.50 | russellb | ok. |
| 18:17.08 | seanbright | not to mention cross module dependency tracking... that would be a nightmare with straight autoconf, no? |
| 18:17.13 | tzafrir_laptop | I generate menuselect.makeopts on the fily for compatibility with the rest of the build system |
| 18:17.23 | russellb | tzafrir_laptop: sounds like you don't have a problem. |
| 18:17.43 | seanbright | the only problem menuselect has... and i do mean only |
| 18:17.49 | seanbright | is we don't have glmenuselect |
| 18:17.57 | russellb | quake-menuselect |
| 18:18.05 | russellb | that's the future. |
| 18:18.08 | seanbright | i can see it. |
| 18:18.10 | tzafrir_laptop | seanbright, sure. I would never do that with straight autoconf. autoconf could run that program as well |
| 18:18.15 | Qwell | mmo-menuselect |
| 18:18.42 | seanbright | portal-menuselect |
| 18:18.45 | seanbright | done and done. |
| 18:19.08 | russellb | disables Qwell's chan_sip with my battle axe |
| 18:19.43 | tzafrir_laptop | quake or doom? |
| 18:19.52 | hardwire | tzafrir_laptop: so you can't do a 'make oldconfig --disable-chanoh32342' |
| 18:20.00 | hardwire | that would be handy. |
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| 18:28.43 | seanbright | mvanbaak: do you award karma when you close bugs? |
| 18:30.18 | mvanbaak | seanbright: if there's a patch, or some good followups on my (or other) comments yes |
| 18:30.37 | mvanbaak | but not on the FreeBSD one I closed today and the OpenBSD one I closed yesterday |
| 18:31.05 | mvanbaak | why ? |
| 18:33.02 | seanbright | was just curious |
| 18:37.45 | tzafrir_laptop | commit dahdi 5072 |
| 18:37.51 | MuffinMan | [5072] Committed by seanbright on 2008-10-09T18:27:07.563462Z: Add a status command to the DAHDI init script. |
| 18:37.51 | MuffinMan | .. |
| 18:37.51 | MuffinMan | ..(closes issue #13655) |
| 18:37.52 | MuffinMan | ..Reported by: jcollie |
| 18:37.52 | MuffinMan | ..Patches: |
| 18:37.54 | MuffinMan | .. 0001-Add-a-trivial-status-command-to-the-init-script.patch uploaded by jcollie (license 412) |
| 18:37.57 | MuffinMan | .. (Slight modification by me to update the usage text) |
| 18:38.00 | MuffinMan | .. |
| 18:38.02 | MuffinMan | .. http://svn.digium.com/view/dahdi?view=rev&revision=5072 |
| 18:38.29 | tzafrir_laptop | lsdahdi is not a good "status" command: it does not return an error ever. |
| 18:39.03 | tzafrir_laptop | It will print the same if no modules were loaded, or if only dahdi is loaded (but no spans) |
| 18:39.38 | jsmith | I tend to agree |
| 18:39.45 | jsmith | That didn't look right to me either |
| 18:39.54 | russellb | feel free to improve! |
| 18:39.55 | jsmith | lsdahdi --status maybe? |
| 18:40.06 | jsmith | Which returns an error code if no spans are loaded? |
| 18:40.26 | jsmith | Or a different error if the dahdi module is loaded but no other channels/spans? |
| 18:40.32 | jsmith | throws out random ideas |
| 18:41.02 | hardwire | proc? |
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| 18:43.35 | jsmith | hardwire: Well, I'm sure lsdahdi just reads proc |
| 18:43.54 | hardwire | jsmith: I have no idea |
| 18:45.01 | tzafrir_laptop | what is it supposed to show, exactly? |
| 18:45.42 | tzafrir_laptop | when is dahdi "loaded"? |
| 18:47.26 | tzafrir_laptop | http://refspecs.linux-foundation.org/LSB_3.2.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-generic/iniscrptact.html |
| 18:48.47 | tzafrir_laptop | what happens if the modules were already loaded, but I want to "fix thing" (re-run ztcfg and such) |
| 18:48.52 | seanbright | ugh |
| 18:48.54 | seanbright | just fix it |
| 18:48.55 | seanbright | heh |
| 18:49.13 | tzafrir_laptop | in those cases I normally re-run /etc/init.d/dahdi start |
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| 18:49.24 | tzafrir_laptop | restart would mean unloading modules |
| 18:49.57 | tzafrir_laptop | but if the system "knows" that "start" was run and won't run it again, I'm in trouble |
| 18:50.37 | seanbright | if [ test -e /dev/dahdi/pseudo ]; then |
| 18:50.42 | seanbright | exit 0 |
| 18:50.43 | seanbright | else |
| 18:50.45 | seanbright | exit 3 |
| 18:51.17 | seanbright | fi |
| 18:51.23 | tzafrir_laptop | nice. Unless you have a static file there |
| 18:52.52 | tzafrir_laptop | It's easy to test if dahdi is (maybe partially) loaded |
| 18:53.16 | tzafrir_laptop | but is it configured? |
| 18:53.19 | seanbright | ... |
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| 18:53.26 | jsmith | tzafrir_laptop: /etc/init.d/dahdi reload should re-run dahdi_cfg |
| 18:53.48 | tzafrir_laptop | but not other things |
| 18:54.21 | seanbright | ok, so you aren't going to suggest any change, just point out how the other solutions are flawed? |
| 18:54.32 | seanbright | we need something to return 0 or 3 |
| 18:54.34 | seanbright | any ideas? |
| 18:54.42 | tzafrir_laptop | to do that according to spec, we have to use a lock file |
| 18:54.55 | seanbright | ok |
| 18:54.57 | seanbright | i give up. |
| 18:55.07 | mvanbaak | me too |
| 18:55.11 | mvanbaak | going to watch a movie |
| 18:55.14 | tzafrir_laptop | the only trouble is that there is no real state there |
| 18:55.50 | tzafrir_laptop | touch a lock file on the end of 'start' , check for it in 'status', etc. |
| 18:55.58 | seanbright | will /proc/dahdi exist when dahdi is not loaded? |
| 18:56.17 | tzafrir_laptop | it exists when the module dahdi loads |
| 18:56.39 | seanbright | but if the dahdi module is not loaded, there is no /proc/dahdi |
| 18:56.40 | seanbright | correct? |
| 18:57.01 | tzafrir_laptop | right. But it may exist while "dahdi" is not yet configured. |
| 18:57.05 | seanbright | k |
| 18:57.15 | tzafrir_laptop | and thus a dependent init.d script cannot yet run |
| 19:00.29 | codefreeze-lap | is frustrated. |
| 19:00.34 | kpfleming | the real problem is how do you define 'configured' in this context |
| 19:01.25 | tzafrir_laptop | right |
| 19:01.59 | codefreeze-lap | I'd love to use the DUMA (efence) stuff to find a prob in asterisk, but there's too many memory violations in Asterisk for it to be useful... the biggest violator is the dynamic loader itself... |
| 19:02.16 | kpfleming | so embed all your modules and turn off LOADABLE_MODULES |
| 19:03.12 | codefreeze-lap | Well, that might help, but other mods violate also, libspeex, etc. Hmmmmm. OK, just don't load them. Let's see if I can squeak by. |
| 19:03.40 | codefreeze-lap | kpfleming: thanks! |
| 19:06.07 | kpfleming | codefreeze-lap: no extra charge |
| 19:08.03 | hardwire | that was about the least assuring call from a ITSP I've ever had |
| 19:08.18 | hardwire | "trying to plug in parameters.. your ip address ends in .260.. it's saying it's not valid" |
| 19:08.22 | hardwire | followed by a 2 second pause |
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| 19:08.38 | hardwire | turns out he's in Oregon.. blames the delay on his headset.. and doesn't understand IP |
| 19:08.40 | hardwire | sigh |
| 19:08.56 | hardwire | this ITSP is going to give us 1/1 .. which i warned EVeRYBODY about |
| 19:09.20 | hardwire | just the delay call I had from their admin office is enough for me to put my foot down |
| 19:09.39 | putnopvut | ends in .260? wtf? |
| 19:10.00 | hardwire | I strike through my zeros |
| 19:10.06 | hardwire | they wanted a printed, faxed, form for peering |
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| 19:10.48 | hardwire | anyways.. I hate LQ ITSP |
| 19:10.51 | hardwire | bbl food |
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| 20:27.10 | codefreeze-lap | throws party! Asterisk loadeds up and ready for business compiled with -lduma !! |
| 20:27.23 | codefreeze-lap | s/loadeds/loads/ |
| 20:29.14 | jsmith | codefreeze-lap: Seriously?!? That rocks! |
| 20:30.23 | Qwell | what's duma? |
| 20:32.47 | seanbright | http://duma.sourceforge.net/ |
| 20:36.52 | JunK-Y | codefreeze-lap: nice, only trunk? |
| 20:37.00 | JerJer | how does one actually install packages using this conary shit ? |
| 20:37.13 | JerJer | i always get "error: Could not find the following troves needed to cook this recipe:" |
| 20:38.16 | Juggie | neat |
| 20:38.35 | codefreeze-lap | Qwell: duma is the successor of electricfence (efence)... it's made to cause a crash on the smallest memory access outside a malloc'd region. Some restrictions apply. |
| 20:38.51 | codefreeze-lap | JunK-Y: No, just on 1.4 right now. |
| 20:39.12 | codefreeze-lap | But, I'll wager trunk, 1.6.x would be no big problem. |
| 20:39.27 | codefreeze-lap | depending on what modules you want to play with |
| 20:40.12 | JunK-Y | if you could write a quick doc (or i can take a look at ur patch) to what you had to enable it, im interested. |
| 20:41.22 | codefreeze-lap | JunK-Y: in 1.4 makefile, you put AST_LIBS+="-lduma" |
| 20:42.11 | JunK-Y | and nothing to do in modules? (even app_junky??!) ? |
| 20:42.33 | codefreeze-lap | JunK-Y: get in 'make menuselect', and turn off LOADABLE_MODULES, and then turn off any codecs, etc, where you have problems. Speex = death, for instance. |
| 20:43.03 | codefreeze-lap | JunK-Y: Oh, and go the embed stuff, and turn it all on. |
| 20:43.30 | JunK-Y | i will give a try when i return to the office. |
| 20:47.23 | codefreeze-lap | JunK-Y: valgrind would be easier to use... if it'll work on your hardware. DUMA will eat a ton of memory, inserting a page after every block alloc'd. If you can load it all, and survive a couple of minutes of running, you might have a good diagnostic for a very improbable memory corruption problem. |
| 20:48.32 | codefreeze-lap | But if you don't have a ton of phys memory, it might just run slower than concrete... dried concrete, that is. |
| 20:49.11 | JunK-Y | codefreeze-lap: ive enuf on some machines. |
| 20:50.15 | codefreeze-lap | JunK-Y: We're desperate men seeking a devilishly evil bug; it's all an experiment. Let me how it turns out for you... |
| 20:52.47 | codefreeze-lap | heh, heh, its like using an atomic bomb to catch the bug in the act, and seeing if you can see it's flash image on the concrete walls afterwards.... |
| 20:53.09 | JunK-Y | have you tried purify? |
| 20:54.44 | codefreeze-lap | I don't think purify would be able to keep up in real time with his 130+ simultaneous calls environment... I have my doubts. Plus, at what, $3-5K per license or whatever it is, it'd be a costly test. |
| 20:55.26 | codefreeze-lap | and valgrind, even if it could run on that hardware, which it can't, wouldn't be anywhere near fast enough. |
| 20:55.49 | JunK-Y | ive played a lot with valgrind when debugging a custom apps, its like there's a small leak in libxml and ive been unable to fix it. |
| 20:55.54 | JunK-Y | what hardware is it? |
| 20:56.35 | codefreeze-lap | JunK-Y: not sure 8-core something; it's new enough that valgrind can't handle the opcodes. |
| 20:58.22 | JunK-Y | on which architecture? |
| 21:00.44 | codefreeze-lap | Xeons at almost 3G |
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| 21:01.25 | codefreeze-lap | JunK-Y: for a leak, I'd use the MALLOC_DEBUG opt |
| 21:02.50 | JunK-Y | ha, thats not an asterisk apps, another C++ app. |
| 21:02.52 | codefreeze-lap | and do a "core show memory allocations" once, collect the output to a file and sort it. |
| 21:03.05 | codefreeze-lap | then run your apps that leak a bunch of times |
| 21:03.31 | codefreeze-lap | then do another core show mem allocations and collect that output to another file and sort it. |
| 21:03.37 | codefreeze-lap | diff the two. |
| 21:03.47 | codefreeze-lap | and you'll see your leak. |
| 21:03.57 | codefreeze-lap | easy stuff. |
| 21:04.03 | JunK-Y | its looks its something in libxml2, that i will have to take a deeper look. |
| 21:04.10 | JunK-Y | im not a murphy :) |
| 21:04.18 | Juggie | not many are |
| 21:04.38 | codefreeze-lap | Thank goodness.... I can hear you all think it! |
| 21:04.43 | JunK-Y | but ive in mind to implement something like that. |
| 21:06.45 | codefreeze-lap | JunK-Y: because most leaks won't violate mem or crash; they just throw the pointer to allocated mem away, and not free the memory.... |
| 21:08.08 | JunK-Y | i know, which means when ur app is running4-7, in 1 month, customers will complain :) |
| 21:08.12 | codefreeze-lap | the MALLOC_DEBUG (or whatever it is in "make menuselect") stuff is pretty memory-stingy and pretty fast... |
| 21:08.21 | JunK-Y | 24-7 |
| 21:08.22 | JunK-Y | 22 |
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| 21:09.35 | JunK-Y | ive to jet, ttyl codefreeze-lap |
| 21:10.16 | codefreeze-lap | JunK-Y: sweet dreams! |
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| 21:42.00 | seanbright | yikes... |
| 21:42.12 | seanbright | so... wav, WAV, and Wav. |
| 21:42.55 | seanbright | we need a s1n to compliment sln |
| 21:46.15 | Qwell | hmm, menuselect.makeopts not being in .PHONY in 1.6 causes USER_MAKEOPTS to not work |
| 21:46.29 | seanbright | Qwell: i have an idea... hear me out |
| 21:46.49 | seanbright | i was thinking we add menuselect.makeopts to .PHONY in 1.6... |
| 21:46.51 | seanbright | thoughts? |
| 21:47.09 | Qwell | there's probably some reason it's not there |
| 21:47.25 | kpfleming | it's not PHONY |
| 21:47.29 | kpfleming | it's a real file |
| 21:47.34 | seanbright | well there's that. |
| 21:47.45 | Qwell | it's PHONY in 1.4 |
| 21:47.47 | kpfleming | if you make it PHONY, then rules that depend on it will always get run, whether it exists or not |
| 21:48.42 | Qwell | so, hmm.. |
| 21:48.59 | seanbright | does USER_MAKOPTS not get passed to menuselect? |
| 21:49.02 | seanbright | MAKEOPTS* |
| 21:49.07 | Qwell | if you run menuselect |
| 21:49.32 | seanbright | 'make menuselect' should pass all the relevant stuff on the command line |
| 21:49.37 | seanbright | ohhhh |
| 21:49.39 | seanbright | i see what you mean. |
| 21:49.40 | Qwell | exactly |
| 21:49.42 | seanbright | hmm. |
| 21:50.31 | Qwell | so we need a menuselect type that does nothing but return |
| 21:52.01 | Qwell | or like... oldconfig |
| 21:59.22 | seanbright | Qwell: it appears to work here... |
| 21:59.30 | seanbright | Generating input for menuselect ... |
| 21:59.30 | seanbright | menuselect/menuselect --check-deps /home/sbright/.asterisk.makeopts menuselect.makeopts |
| 21:59.31 | Qwell | seanbright: run make menuselect.makeopts first |
| 21:59.35 | seanbright | (did not run make menuselect) |
| 21:59.36 | Qwell | or run it a second time |
| 22:00.36 | seanbright | doesn't rerun the menuselect.makeopts target |
| 22:01.40 | seanbright | adding USER_MAKEOPTS to the dependency list for menuselect.makeopts isn't sufficient? |
| 22:01.50 | Qwell | hmm |
| 22:02.16 | Qwell | that probably would work actually |
| 22:02.35 | seanbright | it doesn't force a clean, however. |
| 22:04.11 | Qwell | as long as $(USER_MAKEOPTS) is newer than menuselect.makeopts |
| 22:04.46 | Qwell | which it always should be.. if not, it would be because menuselect.makeopts didn't exist |
| 22:04.50 | seanbright | thats the only time you'd want to re-run menuselect --check-deps, right? |
| 22:05.06 | Qwell | I'm thinking so, yeah |
| 22:05.09 | Qwell | kpfleming: thoughts? |
| 22:05.33 | seanbright | i tried that change, did a full compile, then: |
| 22:05.38 | seanbright | touch ~/.asterisk.makeopts |
| 22:05.40 | seanbright | gmake |
| 22:05.54 | seanbright | it re-ran menuselect --check-deps |
| 22:06.10 | seanbright | the module embedding rule stuff, and immediately reported successful compilation |
| 22:06.12 | Qwell | oh, there's one case that it doesn't seem to work... |
| 22:06.25 | seanbright | which is... wrong |
| 22:06.28 | Qwell | make clean, edit ~/.asterisk.makeopts, then make menuselect.makeopts |
| 22:06.47 | seanbright | that still works for me |
| 22:06.51 | kpfleming | i have no thoughts |
| 22:06.53 | Qwell | but does it apply the changes? |
| 22:07.01 | kpfleming | inadequate brain power to follow and understand what you are talking about at this point |
| 22:08.08 | seanbright | Qwell: yes |
| 22:08.18 | Qwell | it isn't for me in 1.6.0 |
| 22:08.22 | seanbright | -menuselect.makeopts: menuselect/menuselect menuselect-tree makeopts |
| 22:08.23 | seanbright | +menuselect.makeopts: menuselect/menuselect menuselect-tree makeopts $(GLOBAL_MAKEOPTS) $(USER_MAKEOPTS) |
| 22:08.56 | seanbright | 1.6.0 branch, here. |
| 22:10.39 | seanbright | you shouldn't need to manually run 'make menuselect.makeopts' |
| 22:10.47 | seanbright | 'make' should do it for you |
| 22:10.50 | Qwell | I'm not running menuselect |
| 22:10.59 | seanbright | i am aware of that |
| 22:11.09 | Qwell | and I have to make changes to that, post menuselect |
| 22:11.10 | seanbright | i straight "make" after a ./configure will run the --check-deps stuff |
| 22:11.14 | seanbright | ahhh |
| 22:11.20 | seanbright | well why didn't you say so? |
| 22:11.22 | seanbright | :) |
| 22:11.32 | Qwell | MENUSELECT_CORE_SOUNDS=-CORE-SOUNDS-EN-GSM |
| 22:11.38 | Qwell | that's what I have in mine |
| 22:12.10 | seanbright | might be a bug in menuselect |
| 22:12.20 | seanbright | let me try |
| 22:12.31 | Qwell | it works if I run menuselect --check-deps myself |
| 22:12.43 | Qwell | I think only after it exists though.. |
| 22:13.01 | seanbright | yeah, it is not working here either |
| 22:13.08 | seanbright | --check-deps must be hosed. |
| 22:13.14 | seanbright | with the negative stuff. |
| 22:13.29 | seanbright | because i did "MENUSELECT_CDR=cdr_odbc" in mine |
| 22:13.32 | seanbright | and it merges them fine |
| 22:14.09 | seanbright | i wonder if my commit earlier broke something |
| 22:14.11 | seanbright | hmmm |
| 22:14.30 | Qwell | it's always worked that way in 1.4 too I think |
| 22:20.18 | seanbright | it's a bug in menuselect |
| 22:20.23 | seanbright | that is my belief |
| 22:20.38 | Qwell | 1.6.0 also has the wrong order for --check-deps |
| 22:20.59 | Qwell | should be menuselect/menuselect --check-deps menuselect.makeopts $(GLOBAL_MAKEOPTS) $(USER_MAKEOPTS) |
| 22:21.08 | seanbright | ugh |
| 22:21.15 | seanbright | that resolves the problem? |
| 22:21.18 | Qwell | no |
| 22:21.22 | seanbright | heh |
| 22:21.36 | Qwell | - will never work in that order though |
| 22:22.57 | seanbright | well, it's like that in asterisk, -addons, and dahdi methinks |
| 22:23.02 | seanbright | because i "fixed" it |
| 22:23.13 | Qwell | the way it is in trunk and 1.4 are correct |
| 22:23.19 | seanbright | oh |
| 22:23.24 | Qwell | and 1.6.1 |
| 22:23.28 | seanbright | ahh |
| 22:23.29 | seanbright | well that's good |
| 22:23.32 | seanbright | so i fixed it |
| 22:23.33 | seanbright | nice. |
| 22:23.34 | seanbright | :) |
| 22:23.37 | Qwell | but it still doesn't work :D |
| 22:23.44 | seanbright | yeah |
| 22:23.57 | Qwell | since at that point, menuselect.makeopts won't exist, so it won't bother applying the - |
| 22:25.04 | seanbright | well... i'm at a loss at the moment |
| 22:25.11 | seanbright | tired. think i'm getting sick, too. |
| 22:25.18 | seanbright | which is just friggin great. |
| 22:26.08 | seanbright | and on that note, i am going home. |
| 22:26.19 | seanbright | if you haven't figure it out by the time i get home, i'll try and putz around with it |
| 22:26.25 | seanbright | figured* |
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| 22:45.24 | putnopvut | Which header file defines the uint64_t datatype? |
| 22:45.43 | putnopvut | found it. stdint.h |
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| 22:55.51 | jpeeler | if an int is being written to while being read and the only values that are being written is either 0 or 1, there isn't an possibility for some intermediate value to be read is there? |
| 22:57.56 | kpfleming | no |
| 22:58.06 | kpfleming | on any modern CPU, an int write is atomic |
| 22:58.19 | kpfleming | and of course so is read |
| 23:00.28 | jsmith | and thank goodness! |
| 23:01.06 | jsmith | spent too many of his brain cells drawing Karnaugh maps to avoid exactly those kinds of race conditions in logic circuits |
| 23:01.06 | putnopvut | Found an interesting bug in 1.6.0. Even with no 'g' option to Dial, I continue in the dialplan if the callee hangs up the phone. I'm checking to see if it's in trunk, too. |
| 23:01.18 | jsmith | putnopvut: Oooh... that's scary |
| 23:01.21 | putnopvut | yeah. |
| 23:01.34 | putnopvut | I guess I should see if there are any open bug reports about that. |
| 23:04.23 | putnopvut | It is present in trunk, too. |
| 23:05.13 | putnopvut | Well, I've already narrowed down where the problem is :) |
| 23:06.10 | kpfleming | in asterisk? |
| 23:06.17 | putnopvut | kpfleming: correct. |
| 23:06.48 | putnopvut | The problem went away when I removed my h extension though, so I have certainly narrowed it down. |
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| 23:10.00 | putnopvut | ah, found it. codefreeze-lap: you didn't merge your fix for 13584 up to trunk and 1.6.x! :) |
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| 23:34.00 | codefreeze-lap | putnopvut: interesting... there was one, where I was a little confused over whether to merge or not. |
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| 23:34.21 | putnopvut | codefreeze-lap: okay. I took care of it now. |
| 23:34.53 | codefreeze-lap | BTW, it's snowing here. Nice & cold. |
| 23:41.08 | putnopvut | neat. I haven't seen snow in several years now. |
| 23:41.11 | putnopvut | In person that is. |
| 23:41.16 | lmadsen | codefreeze-lap: wow... really? I have my windows open and it's beautiful out! |
| 23:41.30 | lmadsen | putnopvut: I haven't seen snow in several weeks |
| 23:41.45 | putnopvut | heh |
| 23:41.56 | putnopvut | The only time I see snow is when I go skiing. |
| 23:42.00 | lmadsen | I love skiing |
| 23:42.03 | lmadsen | I use snow blades |
| 23:42.15 | putnopvut | I tried those once. |
| 23:42.27 | putnopvut | They were nifty. |
| 23:42.42 | lmadsen | I like them because I have a phobia about torquing my knee on ski's, and I suck at snowboarding |
| 23:43.00 | lmadsen | and I like not having all the extra equipment with the poles and such |
| 23:43.11 | lmadsen | plus I only started last year for the very first time |
| 23:43.19 | lmadsen | so the snow blades had a really low learning curve |
| 23:43.49 | lmadsen | well, I'm off to sit in my chair with my wine and watch some HD hockey :) |
| 23:51.04 | seanbright | Qwell: verdict? |
| 23:53.45 | hardwire | file: so I'm making myself some sort of wholesale management system |
| 23:54.20 | hardwire | I think it's kinda neat that instead of modifying the dialplan, I can add a context/extension from the manager |
| 23:54.35 | hardwire | interface |
| 23:54.37 | hardwire | blah |
| 23:54.49 | hardwire | it's a shame I can't add sip peers from the CLI |
| 23:54.51 | hardwire | :| |
| 23:54.58 | hardwire | sip add peer suckit |
| 23:55.00 | hardwire | sip del peer suckit |
| 23:55.02 | hardwire | yay! |
| 23:55.07 | hardwire | that would be teh fuzziest peach ever. |
| 23:55.38 | CGMChris | seanbright: I have forgotten who it was that helped me the other day, but if you recall, please tell him I said thank you. My config works perfectly now. And you can give bkruse -1 points and blame him for my being here (again). :) |
| 23:55.56 | seanbright | CGMChris: what were you being helped with? |
| 23:56.16 | CGMChris | call queues do not work properly when configured through the gui + agents have voicemail |
| 23:56.24 | seanbright | and has anyone else noticed that if you aren't logged into mantis you get other people's search filters when you go to the view all bugs page? |
| 23:56.33 | putnopvut | seanbright: really? |
| 23:56.35 | seanbright | CGMChris: i believe that was jsmith |
| 23:56.39 | putnopvut | That's nuts. I haven't noticed that. |
| 23:56.45 | seanbright | putnopvut: i wouldn't lie to you |
| 23:56.50 | putnopvut | yes you would |
| 23:56.56 | seanbright | you're right, i would. |
| 23:57.03 | seanbright | you're an awesome guy! |
| 23:57.12 | seanbright | heh |
| 23:57.12 | hardwire | I've actually seen him hold up a sign that said "I'm lying" while typing something to you. |
| 23:57.17 | seanbright | putnopvut <3 |
| 23:57.23 | hardwire | he crosses his fingers behind his back too. |
| 23:57.23 | putnopvut | E> |
| 23:57.26 | putnopvut | robot heart |
| 23:57.27 | hardwire | promises schmomises |
| 23:57.31 | seanbright | CGMChris: and we don't give bbryant -1s around here |
| 23:57.44 | seanbright | err |
| 23:57.48 | seanbright | bkruse rather |
| 23:58.00 | seanbright | either, really. |
| 23:59.17 | CGMChris | oh, ok well... give him a plus 1 then instead :) |
| 23:59.53 | CGMChris | I am out. Happy developing fellas. |