| 00:00.16 | mvanbaak | yeah, same here as ppl cannot seperate opinion from personal attack in my remarks anymore |
| 00:00.27 | mvanbaak | niterz |
| 00:00.43 | seanbright | i just said i didn't want to remove it |
| 00:00.54 | seanbright | i, personally, do not want to perform that task |
| 00:01.14 | seanbright | if you feel we should remove it, then remove it |
| 00:01.19 | seanbright | you have my full support |
| 00:01.20 | seanbright | heh |
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| 13:56.42 | seanbright | russellb_: based on a discussion yesterday... how about removing main/editline completely and just requiring it as a dependency of installation? |
| 14:08.51 | russellb_ | it's possible .. |
| 14:09.06 | russellb_ | i don't know if we've modified it in any way |
| 14:09.10 | russellb_ | I suppose svn log would tell us. |
| 14:09.15 | russellb_ | also, is it commonly packaged? |
| 14:09.45 | russellb_ | and the ultimate question is ... is there anything wrong with what we're using, or something we will gain by upgrading? |
| 14:10.21 | russellb_ | seanbright: ^^ |
| 14:10.43 | seanbright | well, we have made some modifications yes. mostly build issues on various platforms. |
| 14:11.22 | seanbright | but to mvanbaak and tzafrir_laptop's point, we are effectively maintaining a third party lib which is commonly available. |
| 14:11.45 | seanbright | i'm not really committed to changing anything, was just getting your thoughts. |
| 14:12.27 | russellb_ | nods |
| 14:13.10 | russellb_ | if it's commonly available, then yeah, that would probably make sense |
| 14:13.21 | russellb_ | i don't want to make asterisk harder to install |
| 14:13.29 | russellb_ | but if it's commonly packaged, then it's probably fine |
| 14:13.39 | seanbright | well, i think you already stated the litmus test |
| 14:13.44 | seanbright | do we gain anything by doing it? |
| 14:13.47 | seanbright | and i don't think we do |
| 14:14.39 | russellb_ | ah. |
| 14:14.55 | seanbright | i mean, we don't have any bugs in reference to it |
| 14:14.57 | seanbright | heh |
| 14:14.58 | russellb_ | right .. |
| 14:15.07 | russellb_ | and there are probably better things to spend time on |
| 14:15.18 | russellb_ | I guess if someone did all the work, I would not be opposed to it most likely |
| 14:15.18 | seanbright | true |
| 14:15.24 | seanbright | well i'm basically done |
| 14:15.27 | seanbright | heh |
| 14:15.38 | russellb_ | oic |
| 14:15.51 | seanbright | did it last night. but working on something else atm. |
| 14:16.00 | russellb_ | we do gain by not maintaining a lib anymore that we dno't have to |
| 14:16.19 | russellb_ | source would get a little smaller :) |
| 14:16.57 | tzafrir_laptop | russellb, alternatively, replace current editline with a newer one |
| 14:17.04 | tzafrir_laptop | e.g. http://www.thrysoee.dk/editline/ |
| 14:17.28 | seanbright | why can't we use readline? |
| 14:17.31 | seanbright | licensing? |
| 14:23.47 | russellb_ | probably, what is its license |
| 14:24.21 | seanbright | GPL |
| 14:24.23 | seanbright | v2 |
| 14:24.27 | russellb_ | ah, then yes |
| 14:24.52 | seanbright | so we can't even link to it? |
| 14:24.53 | seanbright | that's lame |
| 14:24.54 | russellb_ | for this, it needs to be something BSD licensed or similar |
| 14:25.30 | seanbright | OSS </3 |
| 14:25.31 | seanbright | heh |
| 14:25.36 | russellb_ | heh ... |
| 14:26.04 | russellb_ | well, just to be clear, it's legally allowed |
| 14:26.53 | russellb_ | since Asterisk is distributed under the GPL ... the problem comes in with commercial distribution. |
| 14:27.08 | russellb_ | Also, using GPL libraries with Asterisk has another complication ... |
| 14:27.40 | russellb_ | in our license, we have made some exceptions to the GPL to allow the usage of OpenSSL and some other things |
| 14:28.03 | seanbright | ah |
| 14:28.11 | russellb_ | so technically, you shouldn't be using Asterisk + OpenSSL + some GPL lib, unless they make the same exceptions that we do |
| 14:28.23 | russellb_ | OSS licensing is complicated, heh |
| 14:28.26 | seanbright | indeed. |
| 14:28.36 | tzafrir_laptop | licensing is complicated |
| 14:28.42 | seanbright | true |
| 14:28.44 | russellb_ | tzafrir_laptop: :-) |
| 14:28.45 | seanbright | MS is the worst |
| 14:28.53 | tzafrir_laptop | If you think that GPL is complicated, take a look at the MPL |
| 14:29.05 | tzafrir_laptop | that's a license written by corporate lawyers |
| 14:29.09 | russellb_ | I think the GPL is actually pretty easy to read |
| 14:30.06 | russellb_ | is glad he doesn't have to be the licensing expert |
| 14:31.03 | russellb_ | disappears |
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| 14:58.38 | tzafrir_laptop | hmm... upstream versions of libresample only build static copies of it |
| 14:58.59 | tzafrir_laptop | which naturally won't work for linking asterisk modules |
| 15:01.36 | tzafrir_laptop | err... anybody tried building codec_resample or app_jack on amd64? |
| 15:01.44 | tzafrir_laptop | ~seen anybody |
| 15:01.46 | jbot | anybody <n=ram@ip-83-99-23-108.dyn.luxdsl.pt.lu> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 504d 1h 42m 34s ago, saying: 'no'. |
| 15:05.13 | tzafrir_laptop | ah, ok. That's r3 |
| 15:44.29 | mvanbaak | damn, LittleBigPlanet is not good for productivity |
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| 18:44.49 | tzafrir_laptop | Any idea if libresample has an active upstream maintainer? |
| 19:11.14 | tzafrir_laptop | ah, ok. It's part of audacity |
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