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| 08:46.39 | BrianY | Hello.Anyone alive? |
| 09:27.33 | tzafrir_laptop | infobot, tell BrianY about ask |
| 09:28.27 | BrianY | I am sorry. I used asterisk 1.4.24 untill today and after i placed a call and i answered, in console appeared "....> Channel SIP/w1-081b5d40 was answered." Now i installed version 1.6.1.0 because its newer.Everything works well, but when i answer in the console i can see all the things i saw before excepting this line "....> Channel SIP/w1-081b5d40 was answered." . |
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| 16:43.16 | philippel | ping anyone around to ask a question wrt 1.4 trunk, trying to determine if something is a bug |
| 16:47.33 | eliel | philippel: rule #121 of irc, don't ask to ask, just ask.. :) |
| 16:48.01 | philippel | eliel yeah I understand, being Sunday, thought I'd check if anyone was around before typing away |
| 16:49.01 | philippel | here is the question then, I use #exec generate_hints.sh to generate hints dynamically when asterisk starts or at reload. It has worked fine for a logn time, 1.4.21.1 just tested. However, been playing around with 1.4 head and somethign is broken |
| 16:49.27 | philippel | I can see from a debug satement that the script is executed when I do a 'restart now' for asterisk, but the hints are not there |
| 16:49.46 | philippel | as soon as I do a reload, it gets executed again (like it should) and then the hints are there |
| 16:50.25 | philippel | so something whacky appears to be going on in svn head that is resulting int these output of #exec not being consumed, or so it appears - very strange |
| 16:53.46 | tzafrir_laptop | smells like a race. |
| 16:53.53 | tzafrir_laptop | which config file is it? |
| 16:53.58 | tzafrir_laptop | extensions.conf? |
| 16:54.02 | philippel | tzafrir_laptop yes |
| 16:54.22 | philippel | well no |
| 16:54.30 | philippel | it's a file included in extnsions.conf |
| 16:54.51 | philippel | with #include, in that file is the #exec |
| 16:54.54 | tzafrir_laptop | in what way does it fail? |
| 16:55.16 | tzafrir_laptop | where does it look ofr hints? |
| 16:55.27 | philippel | just sec doing one more test adding a non-hint instruction to see if that is not there either, then I'll answer |
| 16:56.03 | philippel | aahh - ok now to answer |
| 16:56.40 | philippel | it goes into the manager and checks astdb for a bunch of information so it can dynamically create the extension hints |
| 16:57.01 | philippel | just ran a test, added an instruction and that got added, but nothing else |
| 16:57.30 | philippel | so I'm sure if I put more debug code I will find that it either can't get to themanager, or the info that gets returned ends up null or something |
| 17:04.07 | philippel | tzanger can't make connetion to the manager, that is the issue |
| 17:04.10 | philippel | tzafrir_laptop |
| 17:04.14 | philippel | meant |
| 17:05.05 | philippel | should I file a bug? |
| 17:06.42 | tzafrir_laptop | interesting. just as a test, if you add there a sleep of 1 second, will it work on restart? of 2 seconds? 5 seconds? |
| 17:06.57 | philippel | will check, just sec |
| 17:07.01 | tzafrir_laptop | (and yes, I know that a sleep there is a very bad thing to do for a reload) |
| 17:07.59 | philippel | sleep 10, still no go |
| 17:08.03 | philippel | 10 seconds |
| 17:08.07 | tzafrir_laptop | I recall having similar issues with the freepbx script that generates config for asterisk |
| 17:08.16 | tzafrir_laptop | there a sleep helped |
| 17:08.34 | tzafrir_laptop | it means that the manager will be generated in the same thread, I guess |
| 17:08.37 | philippel | that script is something I supply with freepbx |
| 17:09.19 | philippel | in any event, works fine in 1.4.21.1, just svn head broken and I have not tested anything between the two |
| 17:09.22 | tzafrir_laptop | I start asterisk and immediateky generate config. Without a sleep there I fail to connect to the manager |
| 17:09.57 | philippel | well in any event, clearly something changed give sleep 10 fails |
| 17:12.07 | philippel | yup - put a second sleep and second attempt to connect after the first failure, still fails |
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| 17:16.39 | tzafrir_laptop | A151905 |
| 17:17.01 | philippel | M151905 |
| 17:17.02 | MuffinMan | Failed to retrieve issue page for 151905. Does it exist? |
| 17:17.13 | tzafrir_laptop | never mind. The change is indeed in r151905 |
| 17:17.23 | philippel | oh |
| 17:17.44 | philippel | the change that broke this? |
| 17:17.47 | tzafrir_laptop | "Move AMI initialization to occur after loading modules. ... (closes issue #13778)" |
| 17:18.37 | tzafrir_laptop | The manager is initialized in the main thread and after loading the modules |
| 17:19.12 | philippel | is this going to be an ugly one to address? cause it has serious potential to break a lot of stuff |
| 17:31.37 | eliel | commit 151905 |
| 17:32.01 | eliel | hates when he don't remember the bot commands... |
| 17:32.36 | philippel | M15189 |
| 17:32.37 | MuffinMan | [new] [Asterisk] Core/PBX 0015189: #exec script can't access manager on first asterisk load reported by p_lindheimer (Karma: +2.25) https://issues.asterisk.org/view.php?id=15189 |
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| 19:28.25 | jthurman42 | I have been looking at res_phoneprov which looks like a great idea. Of course the majority of my phones only download configs via TFTP. After a little digging around I found a bug report (13553) that was suspended a few months ago because of the lack of TFTP server. Has anyone though more about this, or have any input on the subject? |
| 19:29.56 | jthurman42 | I have been reading through a lot of code, and thinking about writing a TFTP server module, as it is an easy protocol. I would like to get some feed back though before I get too far. Has anyone looked into it, or have any suggestions on how they would like to see something like this added? |
| 19:31.35 | tzafrir_laptop | jthurman42, tftp is ugly and horribly insecure |
| 19:32.05 | jthurman42 | it is insecure, but when it is your only choice... |
| 19:32.44 | tzafrir_laptop | frankly the whole idea of the monolithic Asterisk process gaining more and more services scares me |
| 19:33.47 | tzafrir_laptop | just drop some files at the tftp directory when you generate chan_skinny.conf |
| 19:33.55 | tzafrir_laptop | there are plenty of ways to do that |
| 19:34.05 | jthurman42 | it would have to be a module, so people don't have load it. |
| 19:34.24 | jthurman42 | then why have res_phoneprov at all? |
| 19:34.44 | tzafrir_laptop | the asterisk httpd, for instance, is horrible to work with. I have had hell of a time troubleshooting it |
| 19:34.51 | tzafrir_laptop | it just doesn't keep logs around |
| 19:35.10 | jthurman42 | yeah, I have read through all of that code as a starting point for this |
| 19:35.12 | tzafrir_laptop | I had to second-guess it too many times |
| 19:35.29 | tzafrir_laptop | it's not something I'd like to inflict on poor sysadmins |
| 19:36.08 | tzafrir_laptop | well, that's my opinion |
| 19:36.30 | jthurman42 | I am not quite sure I follow you. This would not be on top of http. |
| 19:36.52 | jthurman42 | it would be a different module. |
| 19:37.30 | jthurman42 | Opinions are important, especially when you don't like so many things about the way http works, it would be important not to do it that way. |
| 19:39.23 | jthurman42 | so far I hear from you better logging/debugging, loadable, and look at ways to secure (if possible) |
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| 20:21.40 | tzafrir_laptop | jthurman42, running tftp on top of http? |
| 20:21.55 | tzafrir_laptop | not as simple as it sounds |
| 20:22.03 | jthurman42 | no, writing a stand alone tftp server process |
| 20:22.47 | jthurman42 | you said that http was not easy to debug, so i read that as "make anything you do easy to debug" |
| 20:22.53 | tzafrir_laptop | this is because a tftp client can ask just about any block of the file rather than the complete file. So writing some dynamic content generation is non-trivial |
| 20:23.56 | jthurman42 | that's not how I read RFC1350 |
| 20:24.05 | jthurman42 | gotta go - emergency.... |
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