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| 08:07.36 | schmidts | good morning |
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| 09:54.09 | sque | Good morning |
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| 10:42.57 | sque | Can someone with experience on app.c explain me this http://pastebin.com/mSDtdi9E please? At line 21 (app.c:920) the total silence is removed from the duration of the recording, however I can't find anywhere previously dropping silence packets. As a result this function reports wrongly duration than what are sent to the stream. |
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| 11:21.35 | Justman | hi guys, how i can exec pgsql stored procedure (e.g. select * from myproc(var1, var2)) from chan_sip ? |
| 11:21.46 | Justman | i tried to use ast_load_realtime, but it not :( |
| 11:27.47 | tzafrir | Justman, from chan_sip? from the dialplan? |
| 11:27.59 | tzafrir | Why would you want to run something from chan_sip? |
| 11:28.27 | tzafrir | (this was not a rhethorical question) |
| 11:30.50 | Justman | i want to store call counters for call-limits in realtime |
| 11:31.49 | tzafrir | I suspect such logic belongs in the dialplan |
| 11:32.48 | Justman | i have asterisk cluster (3 nodes) which uses one realtime database, each node have queue with same members |
| 11:34.10 | Justman | i has write simple distributed device states module (res_ais + corosync eating CPU 100%), which sending devicee states over broadcast, all members in queues have call-limit=1 |
| 11:34.47 | Justman | but in highload members sometimes receives two calls :( |
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| 15:25.10 | sque | I submitted a patch without changing any licence stuff |
| 15:25.14 | sque | https://issues.asterisk.org/view.php?id=18273 |
| 15:25.28 | sque | and I god an error [License REJECTED (v3.0)] |
| 15:26.07 | sque | What is that? |
| 15:31.11 | schmidts | sque have a look here: http://www.asterisk.org/developers/bug-guidelines |
| 15:31.22 | schmidts | The contributor license agreement |
| 15:32.54 | sque | fak |
| 15:33.11 | sque | free software my ass |
| 15:35.24 | schmidts | :D |
| 15:36.19 | sque | ok this system really sucks. To supply a patch do I have to sign an aggrement? |
| 15:36.51 | sque | and at the same time give my personal information to be allowed? |
| 15:37.04 | putnopvut | Yes and yes. |
| 15:37.22 | sque | and this has been done with what in mind? |
| 15:37.39 | sque | To protect the freedom of software |
| 15:37.44 | sque | but fak the developers |
| 15:37.53 | sque | is it more ethical? |
| 15:37.53 | putnopvut | No one's forcing you to submit anything, man. Chill |
| 15:39.05 | sque | That is the problem here |
| 15:39.25 | sque | This "agreement" forces me to NOT submit something! |
| 15:39.42 | sque | Completly against the idea of free software and freedom of speech |
| 15:39.54 | putnopvut | You're kind of dumb for bringing up freedom of speech. |
| 15:40.07 | seanbright | ... |
| 15:40.14 | putnopvut | Just sayin' |
| 15:40.42 | sque | I am sure that I am not the first dumb that find this out and complaints |
| 15:40.57 | BMJ | sque: There have been no changes to the contribution procedures at Digium. If you do not agree with the terms, you are free to not contribute. |
| 15:41.16 | putnopvut | No, it's cool that you don't like the license agreement. No one's forcing you to sign anything. |
| 15:41.30 | sque | This makes the community close |
| 15:41.36 | sque | limited* |
| 15:41.54 | sque | and maybe the code is open but the community around it is not |
| 15:42.54 | pabelanger | sque: what part of the agreement do you take issue with? |
| 15:43.02 | sque | signing? |
| 15:43.14 | sque | and making an aggreement |
| 15:43.36 | sque | I am here and give you my code with the same ethics around free software. |
| 15:44.13 | sque | Which means I dont have to pay, sign, or even thanks for what you did and what I am doing. |
| 15:44.38 | schmidts | sque have you read the agreement?? |
| 15:44.43 | sque | Yes |
| 15:44.56 | schmidts | but the general gist is that your contribution must not introduce any encumbrance to the Asterisk code base, but Digium DOES NOT OWN your contribution, and they cannot take released Asterisk out of GPL |
| 15:45.04 | schmidts | what does ^^ this means for you? |
| 15:45.32 | sque | that there is NO REASON for someone to sign this. |
| 15:46.16 | sque | that is the idea of fs, without signing this aggreement |
| 15:46.34 | sque | all the legal parts have been covered by GPL it self |
| 15:47.07 | sque | if tomorrow Digium relicence asterisk with a closed licence, it cant do this for an already released software |
| 15:47.14 | sque | only for future versions |
| 15:47.23 | sque | why should I sign for what GPL is? |
| 15:48.25 | BMJ | schmidts: I appreciate the attempt. |
| 15:49.30 | schmidts | BMJ thx ;) |
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| 15:52.01 | pabelanger | sque: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contributor_License_Agreement |
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| 15:55.08 | BMJ | pabelanger: Thank you. |
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| 15:57.32 | pabelanger | Perhaps we should add the URL to the wiki / asterisk.org page, under additional information |
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| 15:59.22 | sque | I am not willing to sign this CLA, but in the spirit of free software I offer it to anyone who has already signend it, to submit it. |
| 16:00.21 | ramih | thumbs up sque |
| 16:00.23 | sque | Does anyone wants? It's a minor attempt to fix various issues with format_ogg_vorbis |
| 16:01.19 | BMJ | pabelanger: good idea |
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| 16:03.11 | Qwell | sque: I'd like to point out that the GNU project requires similar agreements to contribute to many things. gcc is a very good example of this. |
| 16:04.08 | Qwell | In fact, they require copyright assignment (or a letter stating that it's public domain). |
| 16:04.15 | Corydon76-lap | Actually, the GNU project generally requires you to assign your rights over to the foundation |
| 16:04.22 | ramih | and GNU project asks for personal information to contribute? just asking, idont know the issue? |
| 16:04.32 | Corydon76-lap | Our license allows you to retain ownership of your code |
| 16:05.04 | Qwell | ramih: it's a legal agreement. some amount of personal information is required, yes. |
| 16:05.07 | tzafrir_laptop | ramih, well, you have to know who the copyright owner is, basically |
| 16:05.42 | Corydon76-lap | Assigning your copyright over creates some very odd issues with your own derivative works |
| 16:05.57 | sque | If I am right, anything on the public domain can be copied and used |
| 16:06.19 | sque | with no restrictions, (and ofcourse you dont have obligation to keep it open) |
| 16:06.24 | ramih | Ok maybe GNU is asking personal info and has a similar CLA, BUT gnu is not a company and generally u know they are not going to relicence their software kill a pject etc |
| 16:06.27 | tzafrir_laptop | If you want to contribute code to the Linux kernel you don't need to assignem copyright (or anything similar) |
| 16:06.41 | Qwell | ramih: You can't "kill" a GPL project. |
| 16:06.42 | tzafrir_laptop | But you do have to clearly identify who you are |
| 16:07.14 | ramih | u can dump it, forking can happen now without a company dumping the project |
| 16:07.21 | Corydon76-lap | sque: there are some additional legal issues with trying to place a work into the public domain. Basically, there is no provision in many countries' laws for you to place a work into the public domain |
| 16:07.25 | tzafrir_laptop | ramih, http://kerneltrap.org/Developers_Certificate_of_Origin |
| 16:10.01 | Corydon76-lap | In the US, there's only two provisions for public domain code: 1) copyright must expire, or 2) produced by a government entity |
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| 17:05.51 | sque | Ok now you all, I won and I .... |
| 17:06.02 | sque | signed this CLA ... :P |
| 17:07.57 | Qwell | sque: glad to hear it. having things like that in-tree benefits everyone. |
| 17:08.00 | sque | however, listening you all and reading more on this, I am not pleased on this situation, I respect your way, and I can't fight against it. but I would like to take in consideration that this is not pleasant for all, and not everyone is on this. |
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| 17:10.00 | sque | It was not about the patch (it will not be the best), it just seeing a fence on the field, you know? Ok its for protecting form the other side, but a fence is a fence! |
| 17:11.39 | sque | Now that I got all your attention, at ~12:00 I asked |
| 17:11.59 | sque | Can someone with experience on app.c explain me this http://pastebin.com/mSDtdi9E please? At line 21 (app.c:920) the total silence is removed from the duration of the recording, however I can't find anywhere previously dropping silence packets. As a result this function reports wrongly duration than what are sent to the stream. |
| 17:12.32 | Qwell | voicemail does the silence trimming |
| 17:12.50 | Qwell | I'm not sure why a format needs to care about that |
| 17:12.51 | sque | at which point? |
| 17:13.12 | sque | No its always wrong |
| 17:13.23 | sque | Its a second case/bug I am investigating |
| 17:13.43 | sque | That the duration on msg000X.txt is not the same with the actual audio file. |
| 17:13.54 | kpfleming | asterisk does not support discontinous transmission in media streams. silence packets in the middle of a media stream will cause inconsistent results |
| 17:14.28 | sque | why then the silence in middle packets is substracted from the totat duration? |
| 17:14.53 | kpfleming | it shouldn't be, that sounds like a bug. |
| 17:15.08 | sque | I find it suspicious to cause the bug the duration in meta data is always less because of that reason. |
| 17:15.48 | sque | For me it is reasonable to remove this block, but I can't do it, because this code is huge to know whatever may be broken! |
| 17:45.25 | Corydon76-lap | It should not be the entire silence duration, but only the final silence duration. Noise should reset the silence counter |
| 17:45.55 | Corydon76-lap | If it's not being reset when noise is detected, then that is a bug |
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| 18:27.50 | WIMPy | Upon a Dial, when a channel sets up a new struct ast_channel is there an obvious way I missed to copy all the caller ID information except for doing it "by hand"? |
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| 18:55.23 | Corydon76-lap | No, you need to do it by hand |
| 18:55.55 | WIMPy | Ok, would have thought it's a rather common thing. |
| 18:56.38 | WIMPy | I found clone_variable, but that actually moves. |
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| 18:57.59 | kpfleming | it's a very common thing for app_dial... so app_dial has that code in it. it's not a very common thing for other apps to want to do, so there's been no need to make it accessible outside of app_dial. |
| 19:00.26 | WIMPy | But I need to do it in te channel after being called but app_dial, or am I getting something completely wrong here? |
| 19:01.38 | devmod | Where cn I find the branch mentioned on this video? SIP/RTMP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h6-PSpD-Oc ? |
| 19:06.51 | pabelanger | m15484 |
| 19:06.55 | MuffinMan | [ready for testing] [Asterisk] Channels/NewFeature 0015484: [branch] RTMP support in Asterisk reported by phsultan https://issues.asterisk.org/view.php?id=15484 |
| 19:06.57 | pabelanger | devmod: ^ |
| 19:08.48 | devmod | Got it. Looks like it has been pushed to the next release a few times. Any idea how close is it to make it into an official release? |
| 19:10.17 | pabelanger | devmod: We talked about it at AstriDevCon and it on a list |
| 19:10.18 | pabelanger | https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/AstriDevCon+2010 |
| 19:10.51 | pabelanger | I just think it needs more testing |
| 19:23.30 | devmod | ohh I see |
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| 21:25.35 | shapr | Is there an asterisk patch etiquette document somewhere? |
| 21:26.02 | russellb | doc/CODING-GUIDELINES |
| 21:26.15 | shapr | thanks |
| 21:26.20 | russellb | https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Coding+Guidelines |
| 21:26.35 | putnopvut | heh, got to get used to posting wiki links ;) |
| 21:26.49 | Corydon76-lap | Insert link into the bot |
| 21:26.49 | russellb | yeah |
| 21:26.55 | Corydon76-lap | plskthx |
| 21:27.06 | russellb | infobot: codingguidelines is <reply> https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Coding+Guidelines |
| 21:27.06 | infobot | okay, russellb |
| 21:27.15 | putnopvut | ~codingguidelines |
| 21:27.15 | infobot | https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Coding+Guidelines |
| 21:27.19 | putnopvut | neato |
| 21:41.53 | tzafrir_laptop | now, how do I add tab completion for infobot dictionary items? |
| 21:42.52 | russellb | tzafrir_laptop: yes |
| 21:45.15 | Corydon76-lap | Hopefully not the same way that it's implemented in the 'asterisk -r' command |
| 21:49.42 | kpfleming | web browsers need tab completion for URLs |
| 21:50.03 | WIMPy | Doesn't your have that? |
| 21:51.19 | kpfleming | it's rather impossible |
| 21:52.06 | WIMPy | Reald url completion, yes. But just in the history is usually good enough. |
| 21:52.37 | WIMPy | But I wouldn't be surprised if google did it with all urls. |
| 21:52.40 | kpfleming | that's not what i meant :-) |
| 21:52.54 | kpfleming | i meant tab completion for a URL for some random website i've never been to before |
| 21:53.34 | putnopvut | I imagine a bash-like "do you want to view all 382389482304283424 options?" |
| 21:54.04 | kpfleming | exactly |
| 21:54.16 | kpfleming | http://<TAB> |
| 21:54.34 | WIMPy | Well, they at least do it dor domains. So you probably just have to wait a few weeks for that to work. |
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| 22:15.26 | Corydon76-lap | BMJ: you ever going to be in Huntsville on a Monday? |
| 22:16.30 | BMJ | Corydon76-lap: I will be there next Monday. |
| 22:16.44 | Corydon76-lap | Ah, I'll see you then |
| 22:23.06 | WIMPy | Has something changes parsing or converting parameters? Playback() of files with top-bit-set characters doesn't work any more. |
| 22:24.43 | shapr | kpfleming: I'd like browser url tab completion to have the domain name reversed, like com.di<tab> |
| 22:25.25 | WIMPy | The way it was on janet? |
| 22:25.35 | pabelanger | Q: On line 230-231, wouldn't you need an ao2_unlock(our_timer)? |
| 22:25.37 | pabelanger | http://svnview.digium.com/svn/asterisk/branches/1.6.2/res/res_timing_timerfd.c?r1=294277&r2=294276&pathrev=294277 |
| 22:26.17 | russellb | jpeeler: ^^^ |
| 22:26.23 | russellb | jpeeler: i thought you weren't going to merge that? |
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| 22:26.35 | jpeeler | uh seriously |
| 22:26.45 | jpeeler | i thought it would be better? |
| 22:26.49 | jpeeler | if it was correct at least |
| 22:26.57 | russellb | communication fail |
| 22:27.13 | russellb | i thought you were just doing the alert pipe change |
| 22:27.16 | jpeeler | would you rather me take it out? |
| 22:27.18 | russellb | i mean, i guess i still think it's a good idea though |
| 22:27.24 | russellb | no, you can leave it ... |
| 22:27.29 | russellb | but check out what pabelanger said at least |
| 22:27.34 | jpeeler | yep i missed it |
| 22:28.01 | jpeeler | pabelanger: thanks |
| 22:29.06 | pabelanger | jpeeler: np. Was trying to understand if there was a reason for not having it. Still don't full understand locks |
| 22:31.56 | russellb | locks are "fun" |
| 22:33.29 | russellb | I would like to upgrade reviewboard.asterisk.org, anyone in the middle of a review? |
| 22:34.27 | kpfleming | russellb: 29.2 seconds |
| 22:34.48 | russellb | kpfleming: :-) |
| 22:36.04 | russellb | alright, well i'm taking it down now. |
| 22:53.09 | russellb | it's back up . .. let me know what i broke |
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