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| 02:02.05 | Corydon76-home | The real answer for that is "contact your provider" |
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| 13:37.12 | e_dot_zilla99 | can asterisk send a message to a pager? |
| 13:37.20 | e_dot_zilla99 | or notification to a pager |
| 13:39.03 | schmidts | e_dot_zilla99 AFAIK no |
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| 13:39.51 | russellb | just because you're banned in #asterisk doesn't mean you can just ask questions like that here instead |
| 13:40.07 | schmidts | LOL :D |
| 13:40.15 | schmidts | dont forget asterisk-bugs russell |
| 13:43.34 | *** mode/#asterisk-dev [-q e_dot_zilla99!*@*] by russellb |
| 13:43.49 | e_dot_zilla99 | ? |
| 13:44.22 | russellb | this channel is for development discussions, only |
| 13:45.03 | e_dot_zilla99 | but nobody was discussing anything |
| 13:45.25 | e_dot_zilla99 | i have a dev question |
| 13:45.31 | russellb | which makes it worse, because people (like me) that were working on something look immediately when someone says something in here |
| 13:46.35 | e_dot_zilla99 | where in asterisk code would you add feature to go back to dialplan or AGI after a REFER? |
| 13:47.08 | russellb | in the REFER handling in chan_sip, presumably. |
| 13:47.21 | e_dot_zilla99 | ok thanks |
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| 13:50.26 | e_dot_zilla99 | how come above the transmit_refer function in chan_sip it says: "note this is currently broken as we have no way of telling the dialplan engine whether a transfer suceeds or fails" |
| 13:50.41 | e_dot_zilla99 | is there any intention of fixing that? |
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| 13:53.27 | jsmith | e_dot_zilla99: I'm sure if you fixed it correctly, they'd accept the patch :-) |
| 13:53.43 | jsmith | e_dot_zilla99: From what little I understand, it's not an easy problem to fix, or it'd be fixed already |
| 13:55.01 | e_dot_zilla99 | i see...that is funny because when i tried to bring that up in #asterisk as a bug i was banned yet |
| 13:55.16 | e_dot_zilla99 | does Broken=Bug ? |
| 13:56.05 | russellb | no |
| 13:56.19 | russellb | there is no straight forward way to "fix" it |
| 13:56.41 | russellb | any "fix" in that area would be deeply architectural in nature, most likely |
| 13:58.00 | schmidts | russellb sound like the next project for batman? |
| 13:58.23 | russellb | heh, nah, he still has quite a long list of stuff |
| 13:58.45 | schmidts | i know ;) |
| 13:59.13 | russellb | after making audio conferencing really awesome, he'll probably be working on codec negotiation improvements |
| 13:59.39 | russellb | and then perhaps diving into video - video transcoding, video conferencing, etc |
| 14:01.36 | e_dot_zilla99 | it's strange that nobody considers that REFER problem serious enough to fix...I've been told to just use AMI to deal with the problems it creates |
| 14:02.15 | russellb | ok |
| 14:03.58 | e_dot_zilla99 | my point is, an aspect of asterisk is broken but developers are more concerned with "improvements" |
| 14:04.12 | russellb | I don't appreciate your attitude. |
| 14:04.27 | russellb | You obviously have no idea what goes on in development land, since we spend 95% of our time fixing problems. |
| 14:04.49 | russellb | You are one short step away from being banned here, too. |
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| 15:05.28 | jsmith | e_dot_zilla99: I think the word "broken" may be part of the problem -- I wouldn't say it's currently "broken", but I would say that it's architecturally difficult to handle REFERs the way you'd like to |
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| 15:13.40 | leifmadsen | jsmith: +1 |
| 15:15.44 | jsmith | Let's be honest here -- Asterisk is being used for a *lot* of things today that were not really planned in the architecture |
| 15:15.59 | jsmith | I wouldn't call that broken -- I'd call that "room for improvement in the future" |
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| 15:32.08 | e_dot_zilla99 | jsmith: whoever wrote chan_sip thinks its broken, read the comment |
| 15:33.23 | leifmadsen | e_dot_zilla99: we welcome patches |
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| 15:35.14 | jsmith | e_dot_zilla99: Again, I think "broken" is a pretty loaded word. |
| 15:35.42 | jsmith | It's open source software -- so if you want a change made, you have three basic choices: |
| 15:35.47 | jsmith | 1) Scratch your own itch |
| 15:35.54 | jsmith | 2) Pay someone else to scratch your itch |
| 15:36.08 | jsmith | 3) Convince someone else that it's their itch as well, and be patient until they scratch your itch |
| 15:36.17 | leifmadsen | 4) Work around the itch :) |
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| 15:36.50 | jsmith | In this particular case, the Asterisk devs have much bigger itches to scratch, or the "broken" pieces would have been fixed alredy |
| 15:36.55 | jsmith | s/alredy/already/ |
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| 15:42.57 | e_dot_zilla99 | jsmith: going with option 3 since i don't have the expertise (according to russellb, there is no straight forward way to "fix" it, any "fix" in that area would be deeply architectural in nature, most likely), i dont have the resouces to pay someone, and working around it would require huge changes in my dialplan/routing program |
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| 15:44.47 | jsmith | e_dot_zilla99: Sounds fair, but please understand that you're going to have to have some patience then... the devs have lots of other itches to scratch too |
| 15:45.11 | leifmadsen | harping on an issue that you feel needs to be changed is not the approach I would recommend |
| 15:45.34 | leifmadsen | feel free to file an issue documenting the issue in detail, and it will get triaged like other issues |
| 15:46.42 | e_dot_zilla99 | not harping on an issue, this is the first time i brought it up here.... it's already clearly documented in chan_sip.c |
| 15:51.47 | e_dot_zilla99 | btw, i did open an issue and it was closed immediately |
| 15:53.06 | jsmith | right... issues are for bugs and not for architectural limitations |
| 15:53.36 | e_dot_zilla99 | where would i open an issue then? |
| 15:56.21 | leifmadsen | the appropriate place is to discuss it on the asterisk-users mailing list, and if it is deemed something someone wants to fix, then an issue can be opened when a branch or patch is available |
| 15:56.39 | leifmadsen | this type of issue is handled the same way as if it were a feature request |
| 16:06.24 | seanbright | sruffell: where's my tc400b driver change? :P |
| 16:06.44 | Qwell | e_dot_zilla99: some advice - don't threaten the asterisk-users mailing list with burning down their house when they don't answer your question |
| 16:07.05 | sruffell | seanbright: :) I won't be able to look at it until next week at the earliest now. |
| 16:07.43 | seanbright | sruffell: k. i may take a crack at it in the meantime. |
| 16:08.02 | e_dot_zilla99 | Qwell, go ban someone for asking questions in #asterisk |
| 16:08.51 | seanbright | now now |
| 16:16.02 | seanbright | what does the 'wc' in front of the drivers mean? |
| 16:16.24 | sruffell | hehâ¦ahhâ¦some project lore. |
| 16:16.37 | sruffell | my understandingâ¦.is "wildcard" since that is the asterisk symbol. |
| 16:16.43 | seanbright | ahh |
| 16:16.59 | sruffell | but then, I think someone decided it wasn't great to refer to your hardware as wildcards. |
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| 16:23.46 | sruffell | seanbright: just to refresh my memory, what you want / need is a way for multiple asterisk instances on the same box to share a group of transcoder cards. So they each need a shared way to get current total channels and current channels available. Right? |
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| 16:46.48 | seanbright | sruffell: correct |
| 16:47.02 | seanbright | and by "group of transcoder cards" it could be a single card |
| 16:47.47 | sruffell | ok, thanks |
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| 18:43.58 | seanbright | that is all. |
| 18:44.10 | file | disables boredom |
| 18:44.21 | seanbright | nice. that worked. |
| 18:44.33 | russellb | seanbright: issues.asterisk.org |
| 18:44.36 | russellb | plenty to choose from |
| 18:44.48 | russellb | make 3d menuselect |
| 18:44.55 | russellb | so many options |
| 18:45.46 | seanbright | hrmm... will take a look |
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