| 00:00.33 | pabelanger | Freeaqingme: Yes, we are aware of the issue. Lack of power I believe |
| 00:01.48 | Freeaqingme | pabelanger, was aware of the power issues. Thought updating dns was an easy temporary fix |
| 00:02.19 | pabelanger | rogersja: yes, I'd like to start some discussion in the next week or so. I've started making some notes on the wiki about config files. |
| 00:03.01 | pabelanger | Freeaqingme: I'm sure it is being worked on, just give them some time |
| 00:03.13 | Freeaqingme | pabelanger, sure thing ;) |
| 00:03.16 | Freeaqingme | not pushing anybody |
| 00:03.21 | rogersja | pabelanger: great, do let me know, im certainly willing to help if needed |
| 00:04.57 | rogersja | is the wiki restricted from editing? or am I not looking in the right place? |
| 00:05.07 | Freeaqingme | logged in? |
| 00:05.26 | rogersja | yes I am logged in. |
| 00:06.26 | Freeaqingme | cant say, isn't really loading here with ipv6 ;) |
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| 00:24.19 | rogersja | pabelanger: where are these notes you mention? |
| 00:26.50 | pabelanger | rogersja: I started making some notes at: https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/~pabelanger/sample+config |
| 00:28.17 | rogersja | pabelanger: ah cool, do you know how one goes about creating a space of their own? |
| 00:29.05 | pabelanger | Sign up and try? I'm unsure if member can honestly |
| 00:31.16 | rogersja | i do have an account on the wiki, but there are no options to create, or edit any pages at all |
| 00:32.29 | pabelanger | are you under personal space? |
| 00:34.01 | rogersja | there are no options for a personal space |
| 00:37.03 | pabelanger | rogersja: then members must not be able to do it |
| 00:37.37 | pabelanger | I believe you can request access to it; we should probably create a wiki page about it |
| 00:37.50 | rogersja | well that makes it rather difficult to contribute :P |
| 00:38.52 | pabelanger | rogersja: send a request to asterisk-dev mailing list, it will get replied too |
| 00:39.08 | pabelanger | I can ask in the morning, if Digium HQ is back online :) |
| 00:40.38 | rogersja | alright, shall I leave it with you? or send off the email |
| 00:40.57 | pabelanger | email |
| 00:42.49 | russellb | digium hq is still expected to be out of power tomorrow |
| 00:43.03 | russellb | and potentially/likely longer ..... |
| 00:43.43 | Freeaqingme | too bad |
| 00:44.18 | Freeaqingme | still not sure I understand why all powercables are above ground |
| 00:53.14 | rogersja | oh well, looks like i've just got something to keep me busy tonight anyways, one of my linux boxes just went RO |
| 01:04.41 | snuff-work | Freeaqingme: powercables underground cost much more $$.. |
| 01:05.04 | Freeaqingme | snuff-work, initially yes |
| 01:05.17 | Freeaqingme | but once they're layed, they're way less vuln to storms etc |
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| 05:53.02 | Corydon76-home | Freeaqingme: and much more vulnerable to backhoes. ;-) |
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| 12:00.43 | kwk | Hello |
| 12:00.58 | kwk | Are there any *.spec files to build an RPM from the asterisk sources? |
| 12:07.38 | kwk | I've checked out asterisk, dahdi-linux, dahdi-tools and libpri and there isn't a single spec file in it. I guess I'll have to look at my distros spec file. |
| 12:10.01 | jsmith | kwk: There are Asterisk packages in Fedora and EPEL (for RHEL/CentOS) |
| 12:10.11 | jsmith | kwk: They have very good spec files |
| 12:10.23 | kwk | jsmith: thank you |
| 12:11.03 | jsmith | kwk: You can also get packages from packages.asterisk.org |
| 12:11.46 | jsmith | kwk: But in my (obviously biased) opinion, the spec files in Fedora/EPEL are more precise than the ones used for packages.asterisk.org |
| 12:13.36 | kwk | jsmith: The reason I'm asking is: I need to have the ability to cleanly install the latest asterisk trunk on ~12 different machines via RPM. |
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| 12:15.25 | jsmith | kwk: You should be able to take the .spec file from Fedora, change it slightly to use trunk instead of 1.8, and use it to build yourself RPMs |
| 12:16.09 | jsmith | kwk: Unfortunately, the Asterisk spec file is one of the most complicated in all of Fedora, because of the numerous optional dependencies, subpackages, etc. |
| 12:16.41 | jsmith | kwk: I'll be in and out all day, but if you need any further help, don't hesitate to ask and I'll do what I can to help |
| 12:17.10 | kwk | jsmith: that's very generous. Thank you |
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| 14:11.24 | tzafrir_laptop | svnmerge does not seem to work here: '/home/tzafrir/bin/svnmerge.real merge -P branch-1.8-merged -f ../merge.msg -r 316193' basically just hangs |
| 14:12.37 | sdr_ | hi all, i've noticed asterisk trunk for 1.6 can't compile with libss7 trunk i was wondering is there a point for me trying to resolve the issue or someone is working on it? |
| 14:14.37 | tzafrir_laptop | sdr_, do you happen to use gcc 4.6? |
| 14:15.00 | sdr_ | em no .. it's a different prototypes of the functions |
| 14:15.09 | tzafrir_laptop | I got a bug report that openr2, libss7 and libpri fail to build with gcc 4.6 . Didn't get a chance to check it yet |
| 14:15.25 | sdr_ | I'm using 4.3.2 |
| 14:15.57 | sdr_ | it builds fine but the logic is changed .. and it needs some work |
| 14:16.29 | sdr_ | but i don't have enough knowledge in chan_dahdi to fix it easy .. though i can learn .. |
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| 14:49.52 | pabelanger | tzafrir_laptop: interactive-conflicts=no in ~/.subversion/config ? |
| 14:50.51 | sdr_ | include/asterisk/config.h is missing prototype for ast_unload_realtime used in chan_sip.c in 1.6 trunk |
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| 15:24.15 | leifmadsen | sdr_: "1.6 trunk" does not parse |
| 15:24.25 | leifmadsen | which branch specifically are you speaking of? |
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| 15:25.25 | russellb | kpfleming: ! |
| 15:25.36 | leifmadsen | omghai |
| 15:25.37 | kpfleming | hi! |
| 15:25.51 | kpfleming | i am surprised i have internetz here, but happy |
| 15:25.57 | russellb | yay for that |
| 15:26.22 | asterisk-learner | hi all, ast_dsp_silence() is returning "Can only calculate silence on signed-linear frames :(" ... can anyone point me to why it might be related ? |
| 15:27.00 | asterisk-learner | we have a csutom application that used to be working fine, but then we moved to * 1.4.36 and now we are getting this error |
| 15:27.21 | asterisk-learner | when calling WaitForSilence application that internally calls ast_dsp_silence() |
| 15:27.35 | asterisk-learner | could it be caused by the zaptel / dadhi move or not realted ? |
| 15:27.38 | asterisk-learner | related* |
| 15:27.46 | kpfleming | no, switching to dahdi would not cause that |
| 15:28.58 | asterisk-learner | mmm |
| 15:29.29 | asterisk-learner | should i convert the channel to signed linear format or smthg before calling WaitForSilence ? |
| 15:30.50 | kpfleming | the channel must be in signed linear format, but WaitForSilence should do that itself, i think |
| 15:32.26 | asterisk-learner | ah i think ur right ,it does when calling "ast_set_read_format()" in "do_waiting" |
| 15:32.28 | asterisk-learner | right? |
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| 15:37.28 | kpfleming | right |
| 15:37.51 | kpfleming | but... it's possible for one or two frames of the old format to leak through after that call is made. how often do you see this message? |
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| 15:52.01 | asterisk-learner | a lot and eventually asterisk crash |
| 15:52.03 | asterisk-learner | es |
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| 15:55.26 | asterisk-learner | also |
| 15:55.31 | jrrose | Whooosh, cleaned up my office. |
| 15:55.40 | jrrose | Power is still out though :M |
| 15:57.53 | asterisk-learner | I am calling an application from the dilaplan and inside this application i am creating a thread that internally calls WaitForSilence() and the main thread is looping and calling pbx_builtin_getvar_helper()... |
| 16:12.42 | asterisk-learner | btw, |
| 16:12.54 | asterisk-learner | should i have a dsp.conf file to run WaitForSilence |
| 16:12.56 | asterisk-learner | ? |
| 16:17.11 | kpfleming | you can't have two threads working on the same channel at the same time. bad things will result. |
| 16:17.30 | kpfleming | if your application needs to wait for silence, just copy the relevant code from WaitForSilence to do it. |
| 16:17.37 | kpfleming | it's not that much code. |
| 16:18.29 | asterisk-learner | kpfleming: you think the multitiple threads might be the cause of it ? |
| 16:18.41 | kpfleming | it could be, yes. |
| 16:19.01 | kpfleming | even if it's not the cause of that message, it will cause other problems, and could be the cause of your crash. |
| 16:19.10 | asterisk-learner | kpflemin: i see |
| 16:19.19 | kpfleming | you have two threads that both think they own the channel and that's not going to work. |
| 16:20.26 | asterisk-learner | but accessing variables from many threads on the same channel, using pbx_builtin_getvar_helper and pbx_builtin_setvar_helper is safe, right ? |
| 16:20.47 | kpfleming | i believe those functions lock the channel, yes |
| 16:20.56 | kpfleming | but i can't say for sure, it's been a long time since i worked on that code |
| 16:21.06 | asterisk-learner | ok |
| 16:21.33 | kpfleming | but if the channel gets hung up, for example, both threads will have a pointer to it and one of them will destroy it... when the other thread tries to access it, boom. |
| 16:22.57 | asterisk-learner | kpfleming: yeah exactly, i am suspecting something like this... |
| 16:23.12 | asterisk-learner | maybe i should introduce waiting scenarios in the "main" thread ... |
| 16:23.41 | asterisk-learner | (I did get one warning abt a hard hangup... ) :-$ |
| 16:23.49 | kpfleming | yep |
| 16:24.15 | kpfleming | or write your application as an AGI or an ExternalIVR application instead, and then let the internal thread handle the channel and the external application control what it does |
| 16:25.16 | asterisk-learner | kpfleming: ok i will see, thx for the help so far |
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| 17:07.38 | kpfleming | Deeewayne: you guys survive the storms ok? |
| 17:08.40 | Deeewayne | kpfleming, yeah. thanks for asking. How about you? Your town gets some close calls doesn't it? |
| 17:09.18 | kpfleming | we are fine, zero damage. this area seems to be safe (residents here 30+ years say there's never been a tornado here)... but a few miles south of us is just wiped out. |
| 17:10.30 | Deeewayne | wow. This last week has made me decide to take the warnings a little more seriously in the future. I have typically ignored them in the past. |
| 17:16.44 | kpfleming | umm... yeah. good plan. |
| 17:17.02 | file | Deeewayne, you live in a place where it is not advisable to ignore such things |
| 17:18.56 | Deeewayne | file, I've made a couple of mental notes hinting at that conclusion |
| 17:19.37 | file | you are probably safe ignoring heavy snowfall warnings, though |
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| 17:21.47 | i_heart_asterisk | does app_rxfax.c come with asterisk ? |
| 17:22.12 | kpfleming | with some versions |
| 17:22.16 | Deeewayne | file, I may be moving to Boulder, CO in about a year from now. At that point I'll gladly trade the tornado warning for the snowfall warning. |
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| 19:07.00 | russellb | jrrose: want another bug to put on your todo list? :-) |
| 19:07.18 | jrrose | Sure |
| 19:07.49 | russellb | app_minivm.c has a bug where it leaks a file descriptor and doesn't unlink a file. search for "tmpfd". also look at app_voicemail.c to see a version of equivalent code that seems to have been fixed already. |
| 19:09.23 | russellb | Qwell: ^^^ that's what i was talking about |
| 19:09.30 | russellb | i don't care who takes it |
| 19:09.38 | russellb | i just didn't want to forget, i'm trying to clean up compiler warnings ... |
| 19:10.54 | Qwell | russellb: I can look. I think I'm familiar with that fix, even. |
| 19:11.01 | russellb | excellent |
| 19:11.12 | russellb | jrrose: nevermind, carry on with your original voicemail project |
| 19:11.28 | Qwell | I don't have a copy of my cert though. I'll email it to myself for tomorrow, or something. |
| 19:11.38 | russellb | hrm, ok |
| 19:13.10 | russellb | Qwell: check your email |
| 19:14.37 | Qwell | russellb: w00t |
| 19:14.48 | russellb | score 1 for never deleting most email, heh |
| 19:15.01 | Qwell | yeah. I didn't even think to check email |
| 19:15.16 | file | be careful.. Zimbra gets very angry the more email you have |
| 19:15.18 | russellb | and also score 1 for decent email search in zimbra ... |
| 19:15.26 | russellb | in:sent has:attachment jparker |
| 19:16.03 | russellb | file: I only have 3 GB of mail :-) |
| 19:16.20 | file | very good |
| 19:19.14 | Qwell | d'oh! |
| 19:19.18 | Qwell | russellb: expired. :( |
| 19:19.32 | Qwell | Kevin recently sent me one via...something. |
| 19:19.41 | Qwell | ponders |
| 19:20.03 | seanbright | i feel like i fixed that bug already |
| 19:20.14 | seanbright | or maybe not |
| 19:20.22 | russellb | Qwell: sad |
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| 20:20.22 | i_heart_asterisk | could someone please unban our IP block from #asterisk ? |
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| 20:21.28 | seanbright | looks at Qwell |
| 20:23.07 | leifmadsen | i_heart_asterisk: talk to Qwell about that |
| 20:23.39 | i_heart_asterisk | does nobody else have the power to unban? |
| 20:24.08 | pabelanger | I'm sure there was a reason for the bad |
| 20:24.12 | leifmadsen | right |
| 20:24.12 | pabelanger | s/bad/ban |
| 20:24.34 | leifmadsen | he banned you, so I'd suggest communicating with him as to the reasons and whether you have satisfied the requirements to be unbanned |
| 20:25.16 | i_heart_asterisk | lol. i haven't been in #asterisk in months... i don't know what requirements need to be satisfied, he refuses to respond to me as well |
| 20:25.41 | russellb | sounds like you deserved it pretty bad |
| 20:26.58 | i_heart_asterisk | why did i deserve it? |
| 20:27.14 | i_heart_asterisk | it's not like i hacked anyone or did anything malicious |
| 20:27.22 | russellb | just sayin', if he won't even respond |
| 20:27.27 | russellb | what did you do |
| 20:28.04 | i_heart_asterisk | i complained about what i saw (and still see) as a flaw in asterisk |
| 20:28.23 | russellb | oh that's right |
| 20:28.27 | i_heart_asterisk | and it became a huge debate as to whether the flaw was a "bug" or not |
| 20:31.22 | i_heart_asterisk | i'm not even concerned with that issue since we've designed a work-around using AMI ... i need assistance with other asterisk features |
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| 20:34.23 | i_heart_asterisk | does anyone know which version of spandsp to use with asterisk 1.6.2.17.2 ? |
| 20:34.38 | russellb | wrong channel for that question |
| 20:35.07 | seanbright | wasn't a threat to burn down someones house or something? |
| 20:35.20 | russellb | i think it turned into that, yes |
| 20:35.23 | seanbright | nice |
| 20:35.31 | i_heart_asterisk | was not |
| 20:35.42 | i_heart_asterisk | was a joke |
| 20:35.51 | russellb | that's unfortunate |
| 20:35.59 | i_heart_asterisk | nobody ever saw fear and loathing in las vegas? |
| 20:36.12 | i_heart_asterisk | "Scumbag I'll find where you live and burn your house down" |
| 20:36.35 | i_heart_asterisk | besides i never said that in any IRC |
| 20:36.49 | pabelanger | this is going to end well |
| 20:37.01 | russellb | because threats in a direct message are so much better |
| 20:37.07 | russellb | pabelanger: yep |
| 20:37.20 | i_heart_asterisk | it wasn't a threat |
| 20:37.38 | russellb | how about that asterisk development |
| 20:37.59 | i_heart_asterisk | why are you asterisk pple so clicky |
| 20:38.36 | i_heart_asterisk | i'm trying to ask for help and being denied because of a message i sent to a single user on IRC |
| 20:39.47 | seanbright | the spandsp question? |
| 20:40.41 | i_heart_asterisk | yeah |
| 20:41.24 | seanbright | which version have you tried? |
| 20:41.49 | i_heart_asterisk | i can't get asterisk to receive a fax via T38... app_fax.so is loaded correctly with spandsp-0.0.5 |
| 20:42.04 | kpfleming | you haven't included any version information |
| 20:42.05 | seanbright | ok, so you can compile |
| 20:42.33 | i_heart_asterisk | yes, im not a linux newb |
| 20:42.53 | i_heart_asterisk | i just get this error everytime: WARNING[18176] app_fax.c: Error transmitting fax. result=13: Unexpected message received. |
| 20:43.30 | russellb | sounds like it got an unexpected message |
| 20:44.06 | anonymouz666 | haha |
| 20:45.00 | i_heart_asterisk | indeed... it is so vague... the sender is able to send faxes to any other fax machine |
| 20:46.13 | kpfleming | app_fax is a very (very) thin wrapper around spandsp itself. that message is likely being generated from the spandsp library and just output by app_fax. |
| 20:46.38 | i_heart_asterisk | do you suggest another version of spandsp? |
| 20:46.45 | kpfleming | no. |
| 20:46.49 | kpfleming | not specifically. |
| 20:47.06 | kpfleming | but my point is that understanding exactly what the message means will require an understanding of spandsp itself. |
| 20:48.29 | i_heart_asterisk | any special compilation flags i could use? i'm running centos 5.6 x86_64 |
| 20:48.48 | kpfleming | could use to do what? |
| 20:49.15 | i_heart_asterisk | re-compile spandsp |
| 20:49.27 | kpfleming | for what purpose? |
| 20:49.56 | russellb | did you enable -DMAKE_T38_WORK=yes ? |
| 20:50.05 | kpfleming | russellb: troll |
| 20:50.11 | russellb | yep |
| 20:50.42 | i_heart_asterisk | idk... i honestly kno little to nothing about spandsp. it has to be installed for app_fax.so to work, correct? |
| 20:50.47 | kpfleming | yes |
| 20:51.17 | kpfleming | but gaining an understanding of spandsp in order to figure out what is going here will have to be done in some place where spandsp people hang out... which is generally not #asterisk-dev |
| 20:52.42 | i_heart_asterisk | i see... can you tell me if i re-compile and install spandsp, do i have to also re-compile app_fax.so to for changes to take affect? |
| 20:56.24 | seanbright | yes |
| 20:56.30 | seanbright | bah |
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| 23:04.22 | citywok | if you define a peer in sip.conf, as well as in realtime you don't get any error messages, but the peer only sort of works. is that something that should be addressed, or is it something that it is assumed the pbx maintainer will handle? |
| 23:28.29 | Corydon76-home | citywok: that's something for the administrator to handle |
| 23:29.16 | Corydon76-home | citywok: but honestly, in that situation, it shouldn't ever load the realtime entry |
| 23:29.41 | citywok | ya, i just discovered that's why an extension frequently didn't work |
| 23:30.01 | Corydon76-home | The algorithm is to look in memory first. If it's in memory, it should never look in realtime |
| 23:30.03 | citywok | it got re-used and the automatic scripts created the realtime entry when it was still in sip.conf from before |
| 23:31.07 | citywok | if it tried to make a call it would frequently get failed to auth device, and then it would re-register shortly thereafter and work again. |
| 23:31.25 | citywok | still running on the old 1.6.2.11 |
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