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| 07:53.16 | oej | Morning folks |
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| 08:02.21 | oej | irroot: Good stuff you've found. |
| 08:02.34 | irroot | ?? |
| 08:02.51 | irroot | sorry regarding |
| 08:03.00 | oej | The latest review you posted |
| 08:03.41 | irroot | ah its been in use and on bug reports for a while |
| 08:03.45 | irroot | thx |
| 08:03.57 | irroot | thought posting a review might move it along |
| 08:04.59 | irroot | ive been cleaning up patches and trees |
| 08:05.31 | oej | Me too. Trying to get a lot of stuff comitted. But it takes a lot of time to get there. |
| 08:05.56 | oej | I need a second opinion on https://reviewboard.asterisk.org/r/421/ |
| 08:06.20 | oej | Otherwise it will get nowhere. Russell wants me to rewrite code outside of this patch in manager.c, which to me is off-topic. I use what's in there. |
| 08:07.18 | oej | I see, Tilghman has done that. Ok. |
| 08:13.56 | irroot | same problem with the SRTP patch its there and works thx for your review again |
| 08:19.01 | oej | Since I haven't worked much with SRTP I can't really place a "ship it" on it. Most of the time I have architecture opinions on stuff though. |
| 08:19.44 | irroot | yeah i know its a catch 22 |
| 08:22.21 | irroot | oej one option is to lock the container and keep it locked the whole time |
| 08:22.33 | irroot | use the OBJ_NOLOCK flag |
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| 08:46.42 | oej | mmmm |
| 08:53.59 | irroot | sorry AO2_ITERATOR_DONTLOCK |
| 08:54.36 | irroot | see app_queues |
| 08:59.11 | irroot | oej how you feel about the WaitFax app it answers the call listens for noise [voice] / fax [CNG] for a max time limit and optionally plays a tone [ring] ... in similar way to Wait |
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| 09:06.22 | oej | Why not? |
| 09:06.27 | oej | Makes sense. |
| 09:08.38 | irroot | https://reviewboard.asterisk.org/r/1116/ |
| 09:09.03 | irroot | its part of my original t38 gw patch ive cleaned it up and cant see any further problems on it |
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| 11:52.08 | leifmadsen | oej: do you think it makes sense to have another Wait() application (WaitFax()) vs may folding it into Wait() and activating it with a flag? |
| 11:58.19 | kpfleming | what is the purpose of this application? |
| 12:13.32 | acidfoo | morning |
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| 12:37.31 | kpfleming | quiet... irroot is here now |
| 12:37.48 | irroot | only just |
| 12:38.35 | irroot | at customer pluging in a PRI via microwave the folks could not figgure out the 4 wire thing T/R x so i came for coffee :P |
| 12:38.58 | russellb | "plugging in a PRI via microwave" |
| 12:39.04 | russellb | rly. |
| 12:39.09 | kpfleming | while you are here.... can you give us a brief explanation of what WaitFax() is supposed to be used for? |
| 12:39.13 | irroot | Microwave link |
| 12:40.16 | irroot | its a "Wait" dialplan app that waits for fax tone and allows dialplan contro |
| 12:40.44 | kpfleming | how is that different from using normal Wait() with faxdetect enabled? |
| 12:41.21 | irroot | that is what i have always done this does "voice" detect and will break on xmx |
| 12:41.27 | irroot | xms of noise |
| 12:42.06 | kpfleming | sorry for jumping in to this late... hadn't been paying much attention |
| 12:42.19 | kpfleming | does the issue on the issue tracker include an example dialplan and usage scenario? |
| 12:43.35 | irroot | ill open a new issue for it it was lumped in with the gateway code |
| 12:43.43 | kpfleming | ok |
| 12:43.53 | kpfleming | that would be quite helpful, thanks |
| 12:44.22 | irroot | it was raised on IRC again yesterday so did some cleanups and updates today |
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| 13:07.12 | oej | Afteroon |
| 13:07.59 | dms | good morning |
| 13:10.19 | irroot | hehe PRI up should i insist on more coffee before routing it |
| 13:11.15 | irroot | OSLEC rox or this line is buggered looped echo onto cell and it wiped out all audio |
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| 15:07.41 | jsmith | Any idea when otherwiseguy usually rolls in? |
| 15:07.47 | irroot | im now home hope you folks have a super day |
| 15:14.39 | russellb | jsmith: he doesn't always hop on IRC |
| 15:15.00 | jsmith | russellb: OK, I'll try to track him down via IM then |
| 15:15.11 | kpfleming | jsmith: unless he's ill, he works pretty much the same hours as the rest of the team (starting between 9 and 10 central time), but as russellb says, he's not very diligent about being here (as he should be) |
| 15:15.23 | kpfleming | he has been sick a couple of days this week though |
| 15:15.23 | jsmith | kpfleming: No worries... |
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| 15:35.57 | leifmadsen | there are a few people I'd like to be more diligent about being on IRC :) |
| 15:52.22 | jsmith | leifmadsen: Admit it -- your barber is never going to hang out with you on IRC... you're just going to have to get used to that fact. :-p |
| 15:53.40 | leifmadsen | jsmith: I don't have to do anything! wah! |
| 15:55.34 | tzanger | Hola |
| 15:56.59 | kpfleming | tzafrir: wow! fancy seeing you here. |
| 15:57.06 | kpfleming | oops... tzanger ^^^ |
| 15:57.43 | tzanger | Heh |
| 15:58.12 | kpfleming | tzafrir and tzanger are *NOT* the same person |
| 15:58.23 | tzanger | I can has asterisk custom software development, so I figured I should hang out here again |
| 15:58.49 | tzanger | No, definitely not |
| 15:59.05 | irroot | twins ?? lovers ?? |
| 15:59.08 | irroot | greets |
| 15:59.19 | tzanger | tbh I just followed leifmadsen in here |
| 15:59.28 | tzanger | Security's terribly lax |
| 15:59.30 | leifmadsen | heck ya you did |
| 15:59.38 | file | tzanger, GATEWAY!! |
| 15:59.47 | irroot | see what it gets you into .... |
| 15:59.47 | tzanger | You guys'll let anyone be a dev |
| 16:00.08 | tzanger | file: Trunk. |
| 16:00.12 | kpfleming | s/anyone/any canadian/ |
| 16:00.49 | irroot | is humming southpark tune something about canada |
| 16:01.02 | tzanger | We are the north American equivalent of India or china |
| 16:01.11 | kpfleming | south park's depiction of canadians is very accurate |
| 16:01.20 | tzanger | Flappy heads |
| 16:01.26 | tzanger | Beady eyes |
| 16:01.52 | kpfleming | and lovers of Terrence & Phillip comedy |
| 16:01.53 | leifmadsen | tzanger: we are? we're actually the most expensive of the 3 countries in NA |
| 16:02.32 | tzanger | Well speaking as a fellow contractor, our view on the subject is skewed. :-) |
| 16:02.36 | leifmadsen | (exchange rate ftl) |
| 16:02.50 | tzanger | Ooh train finally boarding |
| 16:03.09 | file | exchanges failure for success |
| 16:03.12 | leifmadsen | tzanger: if you had told me ahead of time I could have bought you that beer I owe you |
| 16:09.49 | tzanger | Heh it's ok, im coming from Montreal to Kitchener |
| 16:11.33 | file | leifmadsen, careful... tzanger will just outright TAKE what he is owed |
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| 16:12.50 | tzanger | Naturally |
| 16:20.30 | tzanger | train is smooth... interent's kind of laggy though |
| 16:22.03 | irroot | tzanger our train system come bailout come jobs program / scam is a bombardier canadian as they get ?? |
| 16:31.54 | tzanger | irroot: I'm having trouble parsing what you wrote |
| 16:32.23 | kpfleming | irroot: s/come/cum/ |
| 16:32.38 | irroot | tzanger we recently got a new rail system a bombardier from canada |
| 16:32.45 | tzanger | ahh |
| 16:33.35 | irroot | couple billion dollars over budget of course |
| 16:36.38 | tzanger | that's normal with any government expenditure :-) |
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| 16:55.40 | tzanger | hmm.. is there a way to "inject" a reinvite into Asterisk to re-route an active sip call to go through a different gateway? |
| 16:55.52 | tzanger | is this the right channel for that kind of discussion or is -users better? |
| 17:53.52 | kpfleming | not sure your question makes sense... you want to redirect the call's media to a different destination? |
| 18:28.01 | seanbright | was there a change to origsvn recently? i haven't been keeping up with the mailing list |
| 18:28.25 | seanbright | svn: OPTIONS of 'https://origsvn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/branches/1.8': SSL handshake failed: SSL socket write failed (https://origsvn.digium.com) |
| 18:28.40 | jsmith | seanbright: Did your cert expire? |
| 18:28.45 | seanbright | i don't think so |
| 18:29.08 | seanbright | it expires each february |
| 18:36.14 | Qwell | seanbright: you need to update the ca cert |
| 18:36.15 | seanbright | Not After : Feb 2 20:46:40 2012 GMT |
| 18:36.21 | seanbright | Qwell: ok |
| 18:36.21 | Qwell | Digium_SVN-cacert-sha1.pem in repotools/ |
| 18:38.59 | seanbright | same error |
| 18:39.12 | seanbright | isn't the ca cert in the p12 file as well? |
| 18:39.21 | Qwell | should be |
| 18:39.36 | Qwell | one moment |
| 18:39.38 | seanbright | ok |
| 18:40.55 | Qwell | msg me a valid email address, please |
| 18:48.43 | tzanger | kpfleming: yes, for an active call, some external process to Asterisk decides that it'd be better for the call to continue through another route than the one it is currently working with |
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| 18:49.11 | tzanger | pretty much a standard reinvite at the start of a call, but in the middle of the call instead (or several times through out the call) |
| 18:49.33 | kpfleming | well, still... the 'call' is not the 'media' |
| 18:49.45 | kpfleming | if you want to move the entire call, that's very different from redirecting the media stream |
| 18:49.58 | seanbright | Qwell saved the day |
| 18:50.01 | seanbright | AGAIN |
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| 19:17.50 | tzanger | 15:02 <@clvrmnky> Unit tests are like having your code talk to a retarded homeless person. |
| 19:18.01 | tzanger | 15:02 <@clvrmnky> "Are you sure you can't lend me "aasdkekj3#$fhfh4$#$#$" dollars? |
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| 19:18.23 | seanbright | ugh... he didn't balance his quotes |
| 19:19.00 | Qwell | " |
| 19:19.04 | seanbright | better |
| 19:19.09 | Qwell | It's weird that this clvrmnky guy was talking about seanbright |
| 19:19.17 | seanbright | although i would have single quoted the inner quote |
| 19:19.22 | seanbright | but whatever |
| 19:20.08 | tzanger | wqha |
| 19:20.22 | tzanger | wtf |
| 19:21.21 | tzanger | Qwell: heh |
| 19:21.35 | tzanger | apparently there is a timing error with my fingers |
| 19:22.09 | Qwell | upgrade them. known bug. |
| 19:29.29 | tzanger | kpfleming: from an architectural point of view I am hoping to sell them on the idea of having all calls terminate through one gateway, but have multiple paths |
| 19:29.57 | tzanger | that's the only real way I could see this working, since none of the individual paths have anything related to each other |
| 19:30.14 | kpfleming | right... but it's important to distinguish between the signaling path and the media path |
| 19:30.27 | kpfleming | but really... a third-party can't easily redirect either path |
| 19:30.46 | tzanger | no I understand |
| 19:30.53 | tzanger | at least I think I do |
| 19:32.19 | tzanger | actually this stops being a sip question very fast |
| 19:32.32 | tzanger | I just realized that two of the gateways are actually over PRI (iridium and inmarsat) |
| 19:35.08 | tzanger | I was thinking they were data trunks and thus sip but that's not the case |
| 19:38.02 | tzanger | tht makes seamless transfer from one carrier to another more difficult :-) |
| 19:38.40 | tzanger | architecturally speaking, when should one develop a resource as opposed to an application or function? |
| 19:39.09 | tzanger | both applications and resources can provide media paths, whereas functions can't |
| 19:39.27 | tzanger | and IIRC there are multiple instances of resources (music on hold isn't one stream, for example) |
| 19:40.22 | kpfleming | well... no, those things don't 'provide' media paths, really |
| 19:40.43 | kpfleming | in the dialplan, only applications interact with the media streams on a channel, functions do not. |
| 19:40.59 | kpfleming | resource modules are neither, they are intended to provide resources that are used by other modules directly. |
| 19:41.16 | tzanger | right, but music on hold is a resource, or is the application dial() responsible for connecting the two? |
| 19:43.11 | kpfleming | umm... it's a resource that can be used by any code that wants to use it |
| 19:43.29 | kpfleming | but you are putting more signifiance on the word 'resource' than is actually true in asterisk-land |
| 19:43.42 | tzanger | ok |
| 19:44.19 | tzanger | I'm just trying to figure out which form the code I'm looking to write should take |
| 19:44.33 | tzanger | the function part was never in question |
| 19:45.01 | tzanger | but I was wondering about media |
| 19:47.21 | kpfleming | if you have an application that needs to consume and produce media on a single channel, then a dialplan application is the way to do that |
| 19:49.10 | tzanger | understood |
| 19:49.22 | tzanger | thanks |
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| 20:53.59 | Corydon76-home | kpfleming: I think a better distinction would be that a dialplan application is an endpoint, whereas a dialplan function is more akin to a filter |
| 20:55.29 | Corydon76-home | We do have dialplan functions that consume and produce media, such as VOLUME() and DENOISE() |
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| 21:54.47 | tzanger | Corydon76-home: Interesting, I did not know functions could mangle audio at all |
| 21:55.13 | Corydon76-home | tzanger: well, they aren't actually... they're just used to set up audiohooks |
| 21:55.29 | tzanger | Hm, ok |
| 21:55.34 | Corydon76-home | (or remove them) |
| 21:56.14 | tzanger | Are there any design docs which describe these things? Sounds like there are significant internal structures and mechanisms that I don't know (enough) about |
| 21:56.54 | Corydon76-home | Yes, you can order them from file... for the low low price of only $999.99CAD (per page) |
| 21:57.53 | Corydon76-home | Just the normal header files and some examples |
| 21:59.15 | tzanger | Heh. Knowing which header files are the important ones is the trick |
| 21:59.31 | Corydon76-home | include/asterisk/audiohook.h |
| 22:00.06 | Corydon76-home | It was a replacement for the old chanspy infrastructure, which previously caused lots of crashes |
| 22:00.33 | Corydon76-home | So file wrote a new implementation from the ground up |
| 22:00.53 | kpfleming | and now there are framehooks, which can handle audio, video and other types of frames (including control frames) |
| 22:01.51 | Corydon76-home | and skyhooks, which are used for installing Asterisk systems on mainframes |
| 22:02.52 | tzanger | Very interesting. I am going to have an interesting next few months |
| 22:03.47 | tzanger | Used an FPGA to make a PCIe FXS/FXO/BRI/PRI/4wire/DSP card |
| 22:04.00 | tzanger | Now writing the driver for it |
| 22:04.09 | tzanger | I've always wanted to do both sides of a design |
| 22:04.43 | tzanger | Now however I'm finding it's not quite as much fun, since I can only blame myself for both hw and sw problems :-) |
| 22:05.11 | tzanger | Writing your own dma engine is kind of a neat thing though. |
| 22:05.48 | Corydon76-home | That whooshing sound you hear is the discussion going over my head |
| 22:06.33 | tzanger | Then I have to write a dialplan and any additional modules to allow calls to be intelligently routed through one of several carriers based on location, availability and past performave of the links given the current position |
| 22:06.43 | tzanger | Corydon76-home: I don't believe that for a minute |
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