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| 14:50.07 | seanbright | does anyone have a sample externalivr script i could take a look at? |
| 14:50.20 | seanbright | so far i've only been able to crash asterisk |
| 14:52.43 | kpfleming | lol |
| 14:53.15 | kpfleming | i'd post on asterisk-dev... i know at least three people who have used ExternalIVR quite heavily and could probably provide an example |
| 14:53.31 | kpfleming | but crashing asterisk via ExternalIVR seems quite bad... that should be fixed |
| 14:53.50 | seanbright | yeah, i'll fix that. |
| 14:55.18 | seanbright | $| = 1; |
| 14:55.25 | seanbright | that's all you need in your perl script to kill it |
| 14:55.29 | kpfleming | ouch |
| 14:55.43 | seanbright | that's why we have dev environments i guess |
| 14:55.58 | kpfleming | sure enough |
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| 14:58.14 | pabelanger | mjordan: ping |
| 14:58.33 | mjordan | pabelanger: pong |
| 14:58.44 | pabelanger | mjordan: where did you get this logic for python? For any s where s.met is False |
| 14:58.50 | pabelanger | I don't see anything about 'any' |
| 14:59.16 | Qwell | http://docs.python.org/library/functions.html#any |
| 14:59.17 | pabelanger | ... in the documentation |
| 14:59.36 | pabelanger | well, that was fast |
| 14:59.44 | mjordan | I was more implying pseudocode there then anything to describe the list comprehension |
| 15:00.12 | mjordan | self.can_run = len([s for s in self.skips where s.met is False] == 0) |
| 15:01.13 | seanbright | wtf is that noise? |
| 15:01.13 | seanbright | heh |
| 15:01.17 | Qwell | seanbright: O.o |
| 15:01.33 | seanbright | python... pfft |
| 15:01.49 | seanbright | more like list incomprehensable... am i right? |
| 15:01.54 | seanbright | heh |
| 15:02.52 | mjordan | for any s in self.skips where s.met is False, add that to the list that we're building. If that list has any items in it, set can run to false. |
| 15:04.00 | seanbright | mjordan: i was uber-trolling |
| 15:04.09 | seanbright | i don't know python, thus the hating |
| 15:04.59 | mjordan | seanbright: totally understandable :-) |
| 15:07.53 | pabelanger | actuall any() and all() are pretty cool built-in functions |
| 15:07.57 | pabelanger | actually* |
| 15:12.23 | mjordan | pabelanger: you could replace what i had with: self.can_run = not any([s.met for s in self.skips where s.met is False]) |
| 15:13.27 | mjordan | or something along those lines. |
| 15:13.48 | pabelanger | mjordan: ya, that is what I am trying now |
| 15:13.58 | pabelanger | python doesn't like the where syntax tho |
| 15:15.18 | Kobaz | so this is fun |
| 15:15.31 | Kobaz | I had a channel that should have hung up |
| 15:15.58 | Kobaz | Sip to sip... one side hung up and then the channel is still up... i don't have a sip log sadly |
| 15:16.03 | Kobaz | but i'm looking at the channel info |
| 15:16.24 | Kobaz | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:16.31 | Kobaz | Frames out keeps going up |
| 15:16.57 | wdoekes2 | s/where/if/ |
| 15:17.03 | Kobaz | and it's bridged to another channel, where frames in keeps going up, and frames out is 0 |
| 15:17.09 | wdoekes2 | and remove the [] for generator comprehension, full the full power of any() |
| 15:17.14 | wdoekes2 | s/full/for/ |
| 15:17.35 | Kobaz | So... is it safe to hang up channels with a one way flow like that |
| 15:17.49 | Kobaz | like, i was thinking of writing an app to search to funky channels and hang them up |
| 15:17.52 | mjordan | wdoekes2: huh, didn't know you could do that without implying that its a list |
| 15:20.25 | mjordan | wdoekes2: just found PEP 289 - good to know |
| 15:20.59 | kpfleming | so PEPpy |
| 15:21.25 | kpfleming | Kobaz: i'm sure it's safe, but obviously it would better to keep them from getting in that state in the first place |
| 15:21.27 | Kobaz | I guess the polycom never sent a BYE or something |
| 15:21.30 | Kobaz | yeah |
| 15:21.44 | kpfleming | well, enabling session-timers could help, as could the rtptimeout |
| 15:21.54 | kpfleming | if the phone disappears, the channel will eventually get destroyed |
| 15:22.17 | Kobaz | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:22.31 | kpfleming | the other end needs to participate :-) |
| 15:22.36 | Kobaz | yeah |
| 15:22.43 | Kobaz | i guess i can turn on rtptimeout |
| 15:23.15 | kpfleming | yes, that's a pretty safe thing |
| 15:24.00 | Kobaz | rtptimeout will detect one way audio? |
| 15:24.07 | Kobaz | or will it only shut down when there's no audio |
| 15:24.30 | kpfleming | it will shut down when the remote endpoint has not sent audio but audio is expected |
| 15:24.37 | Kobaz | ah okay |
| 15:57.28 | kpfleming | seanbright: ouch... that was bad code. |
| 15:58.32 | seanbright | kpfleming: agreed. |
| 16:10.35 | seanbright | first experience with externalivr is an asterisk crash... it can only go uphill from here |
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| 16:18.04 | Qwell | seanbright: Not true. Your next experience could cause a blackhole to form, eating our entire universe. |
| 16:18.29 | Qwell | There are lots of things in C that are undefined. That would fit with the definition of undefined. |
| 16:21.47 | seanbright | Qwell: i will only use this new found knowledge for good |
| 16:22.33 | file | liar |
| 16:23.16 | Qwell | seanbright: I keep trying to undefined myself up a new car using sprintf, but the results have been lackluster so far. |
| 16:33.13 | seanbright | Qwell: you're doing it wrong |
| 16:38.18 | anonymouz666 | Using DAHDI when you have a SWEC and a HWEC installed, DAHDI uses both or it chooses HWEC over SWEC? |
| 16:46.18 | sruffell | by default it will choose hwec over swec unless you set the "hwec_overrides_swec=0" module parameter on dahdi. |
| 16:46.51 | sruffell | so….it's possible to prefer the swec, but by default it works like it always has, which is to use hwec if available. |
| 16:49.14 | anonymouz666 | thanks for the info! |
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| 18:38.07 | seanbright | ok, externalivr is pretty nice |
| 18:41.28 | kpfleming | yes, yes it is |
| 18:42.15 | pabelanger | seanbright: what are you using it for? |
| 18:42.31 | kpfleming | world domination |
| 19:03.43 | seanbright | pabelanger: an IVR... |
| 19:03.44 | seanbright | :-) |
| 19:04.09 | pabelanger | seanbright: SHOCKING! :p |
| 19:04.32 | pabelanger | why externalivr or agi? |
| 19:04.36 | pabelanger | I've never used it |
| 19:04.43 | pabelanger | but hear good things |
| 19:05.08 | seanbright | well, a customer wants a simple survey of 10 questions |
| 19:05.12 | seanbright | 1 for yes, 2 for no |
| 19:05.19 | seanbright | that sort of thing |
| 19:05.52 | pabelanger | I see |
| 19:06.06 | seanbright | it's like 60 lines of poorly written perl code |
| 19:06.33 | seanbright | it's hard to explain, but the protocol is more of a "conversation" |
| 19:06.36 | seanbright | than AGI |
| 19:06.46 | seanbright | and AGIs don't get events afaik |
| 19:07.21 | kpfleming | and externalivr is the only way to be able to interrupt playback from an external program |
| 19:07.25 | seanbright | yes. that. |
| 19:07.30 | seanbright | O,autoclear |
| 19:07.31 | seanbright | done |
| 19:07.44 | seanbright | well, that's with dtmf |
| 19:07.44 | seanbright | but yeah |
| 19:08.01 | pabelanger | so like DTMF barge-in? |
| 19:08.13 | seanbright | that is what autoclear does |
| 19:08.31 | pabelanger | Interesting |
| 19:08.39 | kpfleming | the externalivr protocol is bidirectional and asynchronous... queueing files for playback does not stop you from receiving DTMF events while they are playing |
| 19:08.41 | seanbright | but you could write S,i-am-interrupting to stdout and that would clear the audio playlist and play the i-am-interrupting sound |
| 19:08.57 | kpfleming | in fact, that was the initial requirement that caused it to be created |
| 19:09.00 | seanbright | long story short: i like it and it has made my life easy today |
| 19:09.01 | pabelanger | so, you can do SayDate(2012-03-01) [example] , and barge in on it. |
| 19:09.04 | seanbright | other than the crash bug |
| 19:09.18 | kpfleming | no, SayDate is not part of the protocol. only file playback. |
| 19:09.22 | seanbright | no, it doesn't have that level of integration with the dialplan |
| 19:09.34 | kpfleming | it could, of course :-) |
| 19:09.44 | jsmith | If only we had applications like SayDateBackground() and SayNumberBackground() in the dialplan |
| 19:09.52 | kpfleming | but unlike AGI, you can't run dialplan apps/functions from ExternalIVR |
| 19:10.05 | pabelanger | ok |
| 19:10.18 | seanbright | the only thing that i could see adding to make it more useful would be a way to start a speech recognition session |
| 19:10.37 | seanbright | you could easily emulate SayDate in your script... |
| 19:10.39 | kpfleming | jsmith: there is still a big difference though... in the dialplan all you can do is extension matching based on input. in ExternalIVR you could decide *not* to react to DTMF input, if the situation warranted it. |
| 19:10.43 | seanbright | S,numbers/2 |
| 19:10.52 | seanbright | S,thousand |
| 19:10.57 | seanbright | S,twelve |
| 19:10.58 | seanbright | etc |
| 19:10.58 | kpfleming | there is a lot of logic in SayDate you'd have to replicate |
| 19:11.05 | kpfleming | language support, etc. |
| 19:11.08 | pabelanger | okay, now I understand |
| 19:11.08 | seanbright | bah |
| 19:11.10 | seanbright | no one uses that |
| 19:11.15 | seanbright | everyone speaks english |
| 19:11.16 | kpfleming | only canadians use it |
| 19:11.20 | pabelanger | oui! |
| 19:11.33 | jsmith | kpfleming: Sure... but I can't tell you how many times I've wanted SayNumberBackground()... almost enough to warrant me actually looking at C code :-p |
| 19:12.16 | kpfleming | seanbright: file at one time i think worked on adding ExternalIVR commands to deal with speech rec... or maybe wayne walker did. i know someone was working on it. |
| 19:12.16 | pabelanger | jsmith: indeed! |
| 19:12.16 | file | I did AGI |
| 19:12.16 | seanbright | we aren't using it today, but i know that we have clients that will want it eventually |
| 19:12.25 | kpfleming | ah |
| 19:12.34 | seanbright | TTS would be easier, obviously, since you could generate the files on the flie |
| 19:12.37 | kpfleming | well, it would be quite easy to add that to ExternalIVR then |
| 19:12.38 | seanbright | fly* |
| 19:13.36 | seanbright | anyway, +1 to externalivr |
| 19:13.39 | seanbright | tell your friends |
| 19:14.04 | file | seanbright, you aren't the boss of me! |
| 19:15.18 | kpfleming | file: did you not get the memo? he is in fact the boss of you |
| 19:15.27 | file | I ignore faxes |
| 19:23.37 | opticron | file deprecated faxes long ago |
| 19:24.49 | Qwell | deprecates file |
| 19:24.59 | file | not going to depreciate me? |
| 19:25.32 | Qwell | You depreciate on your own. |
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| 19:44.52 | Qwell | eww, if then:; else something |
| 19:46.39 | mjordan | Qwell: yeah... |
| 19:46.47 | mjordan | bamboo scripts? :-) |
| 19:46.51 | Qwell | yeah |
| 19:46.58 | Qwell | also using test is weird. wonder if there's a reason that was used |
| 19:47.04 | mjordan | yeah, I let it go. I'm just trying to get my team branch + team testsuite branch running |
| 19:47.52 | mjordan | no idea. Removing that check, at least, was a bad idea. |
| 20:01.49 | elguero | :q |
| 20:02.01 | elguero | ignore me... wrong window |
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