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| 01:50.26 | mjordan | file: you around? |
| 01:51.40 | Marquis42 | file not found |
| 01:51.41 | Marquis42 | :D |
| 01:52.33 | mjordan | heh |
| 01:57.31 | coreyfarrell | mjordan: so did you have a chance to try finding that leaked ref? |
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| 16:35.05 | file | mjordan, you rang? |
| 16:37.32 | mjordan | file: and now I leave, unfortunately |
| 16:37.36 | mjordan | lunching |
| 16:37.40 | file | BE GONE |
| 16:37.40 | mjordan | I may have some questions when I return |
| 16:37.46 | mjordan | if you are around that is |
| 16:38.03 | mjordan | The biggest question: other than smoothing, I dont' really see where else packetization gets used |
| 16:38.21 | file | it doesn't |
| 16:38.22 | mjordan | and i want to make sure I hit all the places where it can get used |
| 16:38.25 | mjordan | lol |
| 16:38.26 | mjordan | wow. |
| 16:38.31 | mjordan | That's a lot of effort for one little value. |
| 16:38.36 | mjordan | k! |
| 16:38.41 | mjordan | I shall return later |
| 16:38.51 | file | kk |
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| 19:45.21 | mjordan | file: ping |
| 19:46.28 | mjordan | bah, should have looked at who was in here |
| 19:56.11 | file | PONG |
| 19:59.08 | mjordan | yay |
| 19:59.27 | mjordan | so: often, when we actually want to get the packetization, we don't really have a specific format in mind |
| 19:59.32 | mjordan | generally, what we have is the capabilities structure |
| 19:59.42 | mjordan | and we need to copy that value over to the codecs |
| 19:59.48 | mjordan | two thoughts here: |
| 20:00.26 | mjordan | (1) We could probably just do this automagically when codecs are set from a format cap structure. But that's not every time. |
| 20:00.49 | mjordan | (2) More generally, we should probably be calculating framing as formats are put onto a format_cap structure, and not when we need the framing. |
| 20:01.00 | mjordan | Since we generally don't have a specific format in mind, and just want the overall value |
| 20:02.04 | mjordan | hm |
| 20:07.08 | mjordan | essentially, I'm thinking of duplicating the logic in res_pjsip_sdp_rtp where it calculated min_packet_size in create_outgoing_sdp_stream |
| 20:09.15 | mjordan | also, looking at the unit test for this (format_cap_set_framing), why wouldn't we want to adjust the global framing if a format was added to the capability structure that had a framing size less than the current global framing |
| 20:09.53 | file | huh, saturating my wireless causes my IPv6 traffic to be delayed - good to know |
| 20:09.57 | file | reads |
| 20:11.13 | file | so it really depends... in the case of SDP coming in you are explicitly told the desired ptime for all formats, for when we create a format cap from config that's supplied by the user, and the fact that only one ptime can be used is an SDPism |
| 20:13.00 | mjordan | well, 99% of things are SDP. And when they aren't, we could still allow an explicit setting of the packetization |
| 20:13.46 | mjordan | i.e. |
| 20:13.58 | mjordan | you could allow obtaining the framing from a specific format if your media negotiation so allowed it |
| 20:14.11 | mjordan | or you have the global one |
| 20:14.25 | mjordan | the global one being auto-calculated from the formats that were passed in, or optionally overridden |
| 20:14.30 | file | then sure |
| 20:15.23 | mjordan | nifty |
| 20:15.26 | mjordan | that will make this a bit easier |
| 20:15.55 | mjordan | I've been having to do a lot of "get a format (that I don't care about, but I get the first one anyway), get the ptime, deref the format - but I never really wanted that format anyway" |
| 20:17.09 | file | nods |
| 20:19.23 | file | offers mjordan some blue terra chips |
| 20:22.30 | mjordan | those are tasty! |
| 20:22.34 | mjordan | I'm hopeful to get this up by the end of the day |
| 20:57.32 | coreyfarrell | mjordan: if we put <defaultenabled>no</defaultenabled> or <depend>BUGBUG</depend> into any broken modules would this allow bamboo to test media_formats? |
| 21:14.44 | mjordan | hm |
| 21:15.02 | mjordan | it might respect <defaultenabled> |
| 21:15.12 | mjordan | We should have the format attribute stuff done next week |
| 21:15.19 | mjordan | which is the last piece that doesn't compile |
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| 22:13.20 | mjordan | building... building.... building.... building.... not building. Building.... building.... building..... not building. |
| 22:52.43 | mjordan | all in favor of killing chan_h323/chan_gtalk/chan_jingle, say aye |
| 22:53.40 | coreyfarrell | aye |
| 22:53.51 | coreyfarrell | but you forgot chan_iax2 |
| 22:54.11 | mjordan | heh |
| 22:54.13 | coreyfarrell | sorry couldn't resist trolling iax |
| 22:54.15 | mjordan | I should do it just for fun |
| 22:54.20 | mjordan | good lord |
| 22:54.23 | mjordan | the uproar that would cause |
| 22:54.27 | mjordan | it would be worth it just for fun |
| 22:54.42 | mjordan | Mark would probably storm my office |
| 22:54.57 | mjordan | I actually laughed out loud at that. Hm. |
| 22:55.59 | coreyfarrell | what is the deletion policy for deprecated channels (being serious now about gtalk/jinge/h323) |
| 22:56.20 | mjordan | 2 release cycles |
| 22:56.26 | mjordan | then they are candidates for removal |
| 22:56.35 | mjordan | something can be deprecated and remain forever |
| 22:56.55 | mjordan | gtalk/jingle are the only two that are 'iffy'. They were deprecated in 11 |
| 22:57.03 | mjordan | so 11 + 12; remove in 13. |
| 22:57.16 | mjordan | that is the shortest time frame we've probably ever used to remove something. |
| 22:57.32 | mjordan | The last time we removed things were when app_rpt and chan_usbradio were removed, that effort went "poorly" |
| 22:57.36 | mjordan | (and they no longer compiled) |
| 22:58.00 | coreyfarrell | so deleting modules that can't compile was a problem? |
| 22:58.28 | mjordan | http://marc.info/?l=asterisk-dev&m=133046140508624&w=2 |
| 22:59.20 | mjordan | Essentially, the maintainers of those modules forked Asterisk 1.4 and maintain it there |
| 22:59.23 | mjordan | which is fine. |
| 22:59.34 | mjordan | But it was very broken by the time 1.8-ish came around |
| 23:02.16 | coreyfarrell | people annoy me sometimes |
| 23:03.08 | WIMPy | Just make the SIP channel support H.323. It's needed for SIP anyway in the future. |
| 23:03.30 | mjordan | WIMPy: ew. |
| 23:03.54 | mjordan | heh |
| 23:04.14 | mjordan | I'm re-reading that conversation. I totally forgot it was the one the devolved with Steve T. |
| 23:04.19 | mjordan | good times. |
| 23:04.27 | mjordan | Somewhere in there is a gif of Michael Jackson eating popcorn |
| 23:05.26 | mjordan | ah, there we go -http://s724.photobucket.com/user/jh2up/media/219c2gi.gif.html |
| 23:09.35 | file | chan_vpb! |
| 23:09.38 | file | chan_phone! |
| 23:11.32 | mjordan | they aren't deprecated :-\ |
| 23:12.38 | file | mjordan, all I hear are obstacles and problems - not solutions |
| 23:12.45 | coreyfarrell | deprecate then :) |
| 23:14.22 | file | wait - it's Saturday, not Sunday |
| 23:20.03 | mjordan | unfortunately (or fortunately, I guess, depending on your POV), modules generally have to have a replacement to get removed |
| 23:20.14 | mjordan | unless you're app_rtp :-P |
| 23:20.16 | mjordan | er |
| 23:20.18 | mjordan | app_rpt |
| 23:36.58 | mjordan | heh |
| 23:37.07 | mjordan | chan_ooh323 kills Asterisk start up if the config file isn't present |
| 23:37.08 | mjordan | harsh |
| 23:37.34 | coreyfarrell | and the config file location doesn't respect --prefix |
| 23:38.07 | coreyfarrell | at least i think it doesn't |
