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| 01:52.16 | mjordan | file: you still around? |
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| 12:23.21 | file | mjordan, now I am |
| 12:45.38 | mjordan | file: hello! |
| 12:45.48 | file | mjordan, hello! |
| 12:45.53 | mjordan | I was having some thoughts last night. |
| 12:45.59 | mjordan | So. |
| 12:46.05 | mjordan | Say I wanted to push configuration in |
| 12:46.26 | mjordan | I could expose the sorcery API relatively directly, allowing for object sets to be created from JSON |
| 12:46.34 | file | yup |
| 12:46.36 | mjordan | at that point, is a wizard backing the sorcery layer even necessary? |
| 12:46.52 | file | sorcery itself doesn't store anything |
| 12:46.52 | mjordan | granted, there's no persistence |
| 12:46.57 | file | not even in memory |
| 12:47.01 | mjordan | ah. |
| 12:47.18 | mjordan | I saw the AO2 container of sorcery objects itself, and didn't dig further |
| 12:47.21 | mjordan | it was late :-P |
| 12:47.29 | file | yeah - that's object types |
| 12:47.32 | mjordan | so, if you backed an object type with either the cache or the memory wizard, you'd probably be fine |
| 12:47.33 | file | and then fields within that |
| 12:47.35 | mjordan | right, it's just the schema |
| 12:47.38 | file | yup |
| 12:47.52 | mjordan | this feels relatively easy to do. |
| 12:48.09 | file | with the stuff gtjoseph did for allowing insertion of wizards it's become easier |
| 12:48.17 | file | since you can programmatically add a wizard and then get a handle to it |
| 12:49.11 | mjordan | interesting |
| 12:50.09 | mjordan | yeah, ast_sorcery_insert_wizard_mapping |
| 12:50.11 | mjordan | nice. |
| 12:50.15 | mjordan | Hum. |
| 12:50.31 | file | I've also been exploring a higher level sorcery API for doing the whole state thing |
| 12:50.34 | mjordan | One last thought: outbound registrations. If you go with a push configuration, any reason not to use a sorcery scehma? |
| 12:50.36 | file | we have like 3-4 implementations of it |
| 12:50.41 | mjordan | yeah |
| 12:50.47 | mjordan | that was always a tough concept |
| 12:51.02 | mjordan | even with Terry's work on the configuration framework, it was always sort of "hm, I guess you stick it here" |
| 12:51.33 | file | yeah - I think we can get it to a point where it's a single API call to enable it on an object type, and then it provides a set of guarantees |
| 12:51.57 | file | and I don't understand what you mean with your sorcery schema question |
| 12:52.30 | mjordan | so, previously we've discouraged putting outbound registrations in a dynamic realtime backend, for obvious reasons: it isn't dynamic |
| 12:52.43 | mjordan | hm. I think I'm answering my own question. |
| 12:52.46 | file | ah - you can with Kevin's last work |
| 12:52.52 | mjordan | ok |
| 12:52.59 | mjordan | I vaguely recall that there was some other issue |
| 12:53.00 | file | since the state is not associated with the config object |
| 12:53.05 | mjordan | ah! |
| 12:53.09 | file | you just can't expect it to update without telling it |
| 12:53.10 | mjordan | that's right, it was the super stack overflow |
| 12:53.13 | mjordan | right |
| 12:53.26 | file | but if you push it in it'll update |
| 12:53.44 | file | since that's done based on the object creation itself |
| 12:54.07 | mjordan | right |
| 12:54.26 | file | so, yes, with everything we currently have a push mechanism shouldn't be hard at all |
| 12:54.36 | mjordan | Generally speaking, whatever layer is responsible for push updates should check to see if the object type has an in memory wizard or a cache, and if not, create one |
| 12:55.17 | file | nods |
| 12:56.47 | mjordan | off to work! |
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| 13:36.21 | mjordan | file: I'm going to be crazy and start merging rmudgett's patches |
| 13:36.30 | file | mjordan, cool story bro |
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| 13:38.31 | mjordan | that's everything with a cherry-pick at least |
| 13:39.44 | mjordan | file: you could push 676 and friends in |
| 13:40.14 | file | push my own in? |
| 13:40.34 | file | the power, IT GOES TO MY HEAD! |
| 13:40.50 | mjordan | well, I gave it a +1 |
| 13:40.56 | mjordan | and the +1er shouldn't be the +2er |
| 13:41.04 | mjordan | could wait for putnopvut |
| 13:41.45 | file | yeah |
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| 14:53.08 | gtjoseph | mjordan: Planning Astridevcon the day before Astricon again this year? |
| 14:55.23 | mjordan | gtjoseph: website says October 13 |
| 14:55.24 | mjordan | http://www.asterisk.org/community/astricon-user-conference/schedule |
| 14:55.27 | mjordan | hopes it is right |
| 14:56.00 | gtjoseph | Didn't think to look at the web site. :) |
| 14:57.22 | mjordan | neither did I |
| 14:57.27 | mjordan | I checked my e-mail first ;-) |
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| 15:53.15 | file | hum hum hum |
| 17:29.11 | DivideBy0 | who chooses speakers for astricon? |
| 17:29.30 | DivideBy0 | and what's their favorite legal vice? cookies? |
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| 18:09.51 | superscrat | DivideBy0, http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/09/22/article-0-18297CEF00000578-775_634x426.jpg |
| 18:10.48 | DivideBy0 | love ti |
| 18:10.50 | DivideBy0 | it |
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| 18:21.56 | superscrat | DivideBy0, :D |
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