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| 15:26.47 | blitzrage | jsmith: any idea's where I might be able to search for such information? :) |
| 15:28.43 | jsmith | blitzrage: Yeah -- his name is Greg. |
| 15:29.07 | blitzrage | damn him and his west coast time :) |
| 15:29.15 | blitzrage | Exomorph, where are thee! |
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| 15:30.17 | blitzrage | Exomorph: seriously is that you? |
| 15:30.26 | blitzrage | or is jsmith playing a practical joke on me? :) |
| 15:30.57 | Exomorph | Tis me... :) |
| 15:31.05 | blitzrage | Exomorph: I was JUST talking about you :) |
| 15:31.20 | blitzrage | 11:26 <@blitzrage> jsmith: any idea's where I might be able to search for such |
| 15:31.25 | blitzrage | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:31.25 | Exomorph | blitzrage: Has jsmith been jumping into channels with my handle again? |
| 15:31.26 | blitzrage | 11:28 <@jsmith> blitzrage: Yeah -- his name is Greg. |
| 15:31.29 | blitzrage | 11:29 <@blitzrage> damn him and his west coast time :) |
| 15:31.31 | blitzrage | 11:29 <@blitzrage> Exomorph, where are thee! |
| 15:31.31 | blitzrage | Exomorph: only sometimes :) |
| 15:31.36 | blitzrage | Exomorph: I have a simple question for you :) |
| 15:31.54 | Exomorph | for me? |
| 15:31.57 | blitzrage | Exomorph: I need a path to store the documents in the DMS. I guess that means I need a full path to a folder in our directory |
| 15:31.57 | Exomorph | Ummm.... |
| 15:32.11 | Exomorph | Oh? |
| 15:32.24 | blitzrage | aye |
| 15:32.37 | blitzrage | I looked around, couldn't find a path anywhere in the configs on the docs site... so I've had to wait for you :) |
| 15:32.48 | blitzrage | I need a path to store the documents (or so it asks in the configuration |
| 15:32.52 | blitzrage | ) |
| 15:35.00 | blitzrage | Exomorph: sweet -- that seemed to have done it! |
| 15:35.05 | Exomorph | Cool |
| 15:35.37 | jsmith | Exomorph: It appears that our FTP access got cut off with the server change -- any way we can get it re-enabled? |
| 15:36.18 | Exomorph | jsmith, Told blitzrage that there was new passwords... |
| 15:36.27 | blitzrage | you told me that? :) |
| 15:36.36 | Exomorph | Yuppers |
| 15:36.41 | blitzrage | and I don't use the FTP, so I didn't even notice :) |
| 15:36.46 | Exomorph | ICQ me passwords that you would like to use... |
| 15:37.50 | blitzrage | hrmmm... I need to figure out how to make a template I think :) |
| 15:38.03 | blitzrage | although this will be very cool if we have document templates now |
| 15:38.53 | blitzrage | think I need to go read some documentation :) |
| 15:41.53 | blitzrage | jsmith: btw: can we get the "User" removed from the graphic on the main page of the ADP at some point? |
| 15:42.26 | jsmith | blitzrage: Yeah, I said I'd do that, didn't I. |
| 15:42.40 | blitzrage | jsmith: yah.... some time ago :D |
| 15:42.41 | blitzrage | hehehe |
| 15:42.51 | blitzrage | its a minor thing... but I just like to be consistant :) |
| 15:42.55 | jsmith | Exomorph: I'm not seeing you online in ICQ :-( |
| 15:43.14 | blitzrage | thats the joy of ICQ -- you can send an offline message |
| 15:43.23 | blitzrage | he'll get it when he logs on |
| 15:43.38 | Exomorph | Oh! |
| 15:43.44 | Exomorph | You don't have my work one... |
| 15:43.55 | jsmith | Nope... |
| 15:43.59 | Exomorph | jsmith, add my msn... gvarga@bvcompuworks.com |
| 15:45.33 | Exomorph | if you have msn... |
| 15:45.35 | jsmith | Just did, but you haven't show up yet |
| 15:45.43 | jsmith | Do you have to authorize me? |
| 15:45.50 | jsmith | Or, add me: msn@jaredsmith.net |
| 15:45.52 | Exomorph | Yuppers |
| 15:50.11 | blitzrage | Exomorph: btw -- thanks for installing that module for me last night! |
| 15:50.34 | Exomorph | No problem... It was an easy install. :) |
| 15:52.17 | blitzrage | even better to hear |
| 15:53.24 | blitzrage | Exomorph: the repository dir. is set to rw for the server I assume? |
| 15:54.36 | Exomorph | Yes |
| 15:56.01 | blitzrage | coolio |
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| 16:19.57 | Exomorph | Huh... You guys get a ton of hits! |
| 16:20.19 | blitzrage | oh yah? |
| 16:20.21 | blitzrage | how many? :) |
| 16:20.31 | blitzrage | a hit counter might be kinda neat :) |
| 16:20.37 | blitzrage | we get like 5+ registered users a day |
| 16:20.40 | Exomorph | Ask jsmith... He has access to the stats. :) |
| 16:20.43 | blitzrage | lol |
| 16:20.44 | blitzrage | wicked |
| 16:20.55 | blitzrage | jsmith: stop whoring all the stats for yourself! :) |
| 16:21.28 | jsmith | blitzrage: No. |
| 16:21.35 | jsmith | blitzrage: You gotta remember -- I'm the stats man. |
| 16:21.45 | blitzrage | jsmith: this I know :) |
| 16:21.52 | blitzrage | jsmith: I wish to be informed :) |
| 16:22.56 | jsmith | blitzrage: I gotta run to a meeting :-) |
| 16:23.01 | Exomorph | LOL |
| 16:23.15 | Exomorph | blitzrage: YOu want your own login? |
| 16:23.49 | blitzrage | Exomorph: aye :) |
| 16:24.00 | blitzrage | jsmith-away: remember who your dictator is!!!! |
| 16:26.38 | Exomorph | blitzrage, That will get you both ftp and the stats. |
| 16:27.28 | Exomorph | Hmmm Maybe I should start charging for bandwidth.. ;) |
| 16:27.55 | blitzrage | :D |
| 16:28.01 | blitzrage | Exomorph: I suggest you don't :) |
| 16:28.24 | Exomorph | blitzrage, I think you have a conflict in intrest. :) |
| 16:28.52 | blitzrage | Exomorph: it may be possible |
| 16:29.02 | blitzrage | why do we get so many hits from Germany? :) |
| 16:31.58 | Exomorph | blitzrage, Don't ask me. ;) |
| 16:32.18 | Exomorph | I'm just the guy with the hardware.... you guys put the content up. |
| 16:33.03 | Exomorph | blitzrage, Who Eric? http://www.fnords.org/~eric/asterisk/ |
| 16:33.24 | Exomorph | You guys get a huge amount of redirects from his site, even tho its closed. |
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| 16:36.34 | blitzrage | yah... thats because I'm supposed to have all his former content, go through it, and put it on the docs project |
| 16:36.51 | blitzrage | but I haven't figured out a good way of putting it up there yet... I'm maybe thinking the DMS might help me resolve this issue |
| 18:19.23 | blitzrage | jsmith: do you still have the newest version of the O'Reilly .dot document? And -- what do you think about using it for ADP ? |
| 18:19.47 | blitzrage | Also -- are we allowed to use those tools outside of O'Reilly documentation? (I would presume so...) |
| 18:43.54 | jsmith | No, I don't think we're allowed |
| 18:44.51 | blitzrage | crappy |
| 18:45.00 | blitzrage | I've created a "template" document now |
| 18:47.12 | jsmith | You really want people using that horrible word processing software? |
| 18:58.22 | blitzrage | I like word |
| 18:58.37 | blitzrage | and you eand you think forcing people who write docbook is easier? |
| 18:59.10 | blitzrage | at least this way we might actually get some submissions |
| 18:59.30 | blitzrage | and technically -- you can use anything you want -- the DSMS doesn't care |
| 18:59.34 | blitzrage | DMS* |
| 18:59.53 | blitzrage | *I* write in Word... so that's what I used to create the first document... |
| 19:02.05 | blitzrage | what would you suggest people write in then? |
| 19:04.00 | jsmith | I think people should write in ascii text, so that it can be easily imported into DocBook |
| 19:06.02 | blitzrage | hrmmm... |
| 19:06.16 | blitzrage | I could make a new folder and step |
| 19:06.20 | blitzrage | that might not be a bad idea |
| 19:06.54 | blitzrage | Draft Documents, Draft Approval, DocBook Conversion, Published Documents |
| 19:07.37 | jsmith | I like that :-) |
| 19:07.42 | blitzrage | me too |
| 19:07.52 | blitzrage | ok, I'm sold :) |
| 19:08.46 | blitzrage | jsmith: you'd be happy to know that I'm using my laptop -- which ONLY has Linux on it |
| 19:09.01 | blitzrage | thus I'm stuck to using the Linux desktop... :P |
| 19:09.02 | jsmith | w00t! |
| 19:09.20 | blitzrage | although earlier I was just rdesktop'd into my computer at home until it started running rediculously slow |
| 19:09.26 | blitzrage | :) |
| 19:09.34 | jsmith | You forget -- I've been using a Linux desktop almost exclusively for almost 7 years |
| 19:11.11 | blitzrage | I used it for 3 years.. then got sick of having to spend a day everytime I wanted to install a multimedia app |
| 19:11.23 | blitzrage | learning how to use it, how to make it run with drivers, etc... etc... etc... |
| 19:12.29 | blitzrage | hrmmm... would be nice if we could auto-link to "Published Documents" on the site somehow... |
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| 20:49.19 | Alric | Hey |
| 20:57.29 | jsmith | Alric! |
| 21:02.09 | Alric | Jared! |
| 21:02.13 | Alric | Guess what?!? |
| 21:05.20 | Alric | I have Polycom 301's that lock up when left in DND mode :) |
| 21:05.29 | Alric | Whod have thought?!? |
| 21:05.54 | jsmith | Sounds like a problem with your DHCP server. |
| 21:06.00 | Alric | Really? |
| 21:06.09 | Alric | ... except they don't use DHCP... |
| 21:06.21 | jsmith | Yeah... I"ll bet it's when they do their DHCP renews that they're locking up |
| 21:06.38 | Alric | They're statically given real (routable) IP addresses. |
| 21:06.59 | Alric | Apparently the Vina's NAT they were behind didn't like incoming voice packets, and refused to pass any of them on to the phones. |
| 21:08.50 | jsmith | OK, then it's not a DHCP problem. Blame Polycom. |
| 21:09.02 | blitzrage | jsmith: I've added some documents to the website now regarding DMS and the documentation process. |
| 21:09.19 | Alric | Yeah |
| 21:09.21 | blitzrage | I have some stuff from the mailing list that someone wrote about E1's that I'm going to use as a guinie pig |
| 21:09.23 | Alric | I wonder if polycom will care. |
| 21:09.43 | Alric | They're too busy talking about condoms and sex on #asterisk to worry about telecom problems :P |
| 21:09.56 | blitzrage | heh :) |
| 21:10.09 | blitzrage | #asterisk is a bad influence on young, impressionable minds like yourself |
| 21:11.15 | Alric | But now that 21 has rolled around... I'll never care about being called "too young" again :P |
| 21:12.13 | jsmith | How things going with whats-her-name? She still hanging around you? |
| 21:12.25 | Alric | Yeah |
| 21:14.15 | jsmith | Lucky you... tell her I said hi. |
| 21:14.47 | Alric | Alright |
| 21:15.14 | Alric | She freaked me out the other day, heh. |
| 21:15.29 | Alric | Telling me she might have another 2 years of undergrad class left... |
| 21:16.39 | blitzrage | better than her saying, "I'm pregnant" |
| 21:16.46 | blitzrage | just think of it that way :) |
| 21:19.06 | blitzrage | hey, anyone in here: when you get a chance, check out the DMS at http://www.asteriskdocs.org. You have to be logged in -- let me know what you think. Read the documents I've uploaded too and give me feedback (I still have a couple of things to fix up in the README.documentation_process document. Will update it as I determine the best method's for some of the steps. |
| 21:19.15 | blitzrage | Will find that out once I run the E1 document through the process |
| 21:20.34 | blitzrage | once I get that process determined, I'll make an announcements to the asterisk-doc mailing list |
| 21:20.43 | blitzrage | and post on the main page |
| 21:20.53 | blitzrage | back in a bit -- off to go help a customer |
| 21:21.51 | Alric | heh |
| 21:21.52 | Alric | yeah |
| 21:21.52 | Alric | :P |
| 21:22.21 | Alric | Except we don't do that kind of stuff... so it would cease to be my problem :P |
| 21:22.42 | blitzrage | Alric: you do stuff now? |
| 21:23.08 | Alric | Didn't I just say we didn't? |
| 21:23.11 | Alric | I think I just said that... |
| 21:23.13 | blitzrage | lol |
| 21:23.23 | blitzrage | ok, I'm out -- lates! |
| 21:23.25 | Alric | Oh, thats right. |
| 21:23.28 | Alric | Canadian. |
| 21:23.30 | Alric | Gotta repeat things. |
| 21:23.31 | Alric | Got it. |
| 21:37.36 | jsmith | Yup... |
| 21:37.44 | jsmith | silly Canadians... |
| 21:37.56 | jsmith | Two more years of school, eh? |
| 21:38.08 | jsmith | So why can't you just get married and work while she goes to school? |
| 21:38.46 | Alric | Eh |
| 21:38.52 | Alric | Cause school costs $12k / year. |
| 21:38.55 | Alric | And thats a lot of money. |
| 21:39.30 | Alric | Hrm. |
| 21:39.38 | Alric | I wonder if these phones are on DND, or if there's truly a problem. |
| 21:42.41 | Alric | And just now, this phone randomly comes unbusy. |
| 21:42.43 | Alric | I wonder... |
| 21:43.27 | Alric | Could have been a meeting. |
| 21:43.29 | Alric | Who knows. |
| 21:44.48 | jsmith | no clue :-) |
| 21:45.46 | Alric | Yeah, me either. |
| 21:45.49 | Alric | These polycoms are strange. |
| 21:47.01 | Alric | I prefer Cisco! |
| 21:47.12 | Alric | Well, let me elaborate. |
| 21:47.18 | Alric | I prefer Cisco over the 300/301s :P |
| 21:47.22 | jsmith | Yup. |
| 21:47.35 | Alric | 500/501/600 seems nice though. |
| 21:47.44 | Alric | Especially if I could get presence, IM, etc working. |
| 21:49.22 | Alric | Yeah, its just DND |
| 21:49.40 | Alric | Thinking I have problems here, freaking out, stabbing Gmail trying to get results out of the archive... |
| 21:50.11 | jsmith | :-) |
| 21:50.28 | Alric | So when is 1.2.0 coming out?!? |
| 21:50.38 | jsmith | When it's fully cooked. |
| 21:52.20 | Alric | How cooked is it now? |
| 21:58.38 | jsmith | Getting quite close -- but I'm not sure *how* close -- best guess is the end of the year. |
| 21:58.44 | Alric | Fun. |
| 21:58.49 | Alric | I was hoping it would be done by now. |
| 21:58.55 | Alric | Maybe I'll start using the Betga. |
| 21:59.04 | Alric | Its getting where I need some of those features.. |
| 21:59.04 | jsmith | Naw... the beta is *old* |
| 21:59.07 | jsmith | Use CVS. |
| 21:59.11 | jsmith | It's mostly-baked. |
| 21:59.14 | Alric | heh |
| 21:59.30 | Alric | I'm scared of CVS! |
| 22:00.05 | jsmith | A bug marshall scared of CVS? |
| 22:00.36 | Exomorph_ | Maybe we should get him to use svn? |
| 22:00.52 | jsmith | Now that's just plain scary! |
| 22:01.11 | Exomorph | now now... |
| 22:01.13 | jsmith | Alric using svn? Next it'll be snowing at the equator. |
| 22:01.44 | jsmith | Alric: Do you even know what svn is? |
| 22:01.47 | Exomorph | hey jsmith... Guess what? |
| 22:01.50 | jsmith | What?!? |
| 22:01.57 | Exomorph | I've been pulled into the dark side... |
| 22:02.04 | Exomorph | I'm a MCSA now. :( |
| 22:02.04 | jsmith | NNNNNNOOOOOOO! |
| 22:02.36 | Exomorph | Stupid microsoft cert's... |
| 22:02.37 | jsmith | Ah, well... I guess if you're gonna use that other OS, you might as well know as much of the inner workings as possible. |
| 22:03.20 | Exomorph | Ya... Like all the command line utils that actually allow you to do "stuff". |
| 22:03.37 | jsmith | What would I do without grep, sed, awk, and cut? |
| 22:04.18 | Exomorph | Thats why you isntall them onto windows. ;) |
| 22:04.47 | jsmith | Gah...that's like bolting a turbo-charger on your lawn mower... |
| 22:05.20 | Exomorph | ya... it makes it go at least! |
| 22:09.53 | Alric | roflmao |
| 22:09.56 | Alric | I've heard of svn |
| 22:10.03 | Alric | Never run into a place where I needed to use it though. |
| 22:10.22 | Alric | And when I said I was scared of CVS, I meant I was scared of CVS in Production, which is what I was referring to! :P |
| 22:10.23 | Exomorph | Alric, Your not a developer then. ;) |
| 22:10.42 | Alric | Exomorph: Don't need to know svn to be a developer... |
| 22:11.01 | Alric | I guess that depends on your definition of "developer" |
| 22:12.00 | Exomorph | no no no... I mean that if your a developer on linux, then you have a real good chance of coming across all the versioning systems out there. |
| 22:13.09 | Alric | Yeah, I'd imagine. |
| 22:22.31 | Alric | Meh. |
| 22:22.37 | Alric | Hate Windows |
| 22:48.29 | Alric | gdit |
| 22:48.36 | Alric | Stupid laptop didn't sell :/ |
| 22:49.13 | jsmith | Didn't sell? |
| 22:51.26 | Alric | Nope |
| 22:51.29 | Alric | No bids, on eBay. |
| 22:51.45 | Alric | Bought it for $1450 a month ago. Now it won't sell for $1250. |
| 22:51.47 | Alric | Sigh. |
| 22:51.56 | jsmith | ;-( |
| 22:52.37 | jsmith | Figures. |
| 22:52.39 | jsmith | It's used! |
| 22:54.59 | Alric | So? |
| 22:55.06 | Alric | Still good! |
| 22:55.17 | jsmith | Nobody wants to pay that much for a used laptop. |
| 23:06.38 | Alric | Its a Mac |
| 23:06.49 | Alric | That seems to be the norm. |
| 23:07.14 | jsmith | Oh, what kind of mac? |
| 23:07.17 | jsmith | Powermac? |
| 23:07.19 | jsmith | 12" |
| 23:07.23 | Alric | No, Powerbook, 15" |
| 23:07.24 | jsmith | 15"? |
| 23:07.30 | jsmith | YEah, that's what I meant. |
| 23:07.41 | jsmith | So, you went out and bought one, and now you want to sell it? |
| 23:07.41 | Alric | 1.25 ghz, 1.25gb ram (brand new ram), 80gb HD |
| 23:07.49 | jsmith | Ooooh... |
| 23:07.54 | jsmith | Tempting... |
| 23:08.00 | jsmith | Superdrive? |
| 23:08.03 | Alric | Yep |
| 23:08.05 | jsmith | Airport card? |
| 23:08.06 | Alric | Only one issue. |
| 23:08.09 | jsmith | Bluetooth? |
| 23:08.09 | Alric | Airport Extreme. |
| 23:08.12 | Alric | And Bluetooth |
| 23:08.13 | jsmith | Nice! |
| 23:08.16 | jsmith | What's the issue? |
| 23:08.22 | jsmith | You broke it already? |
| 23:08.22 | Alric | Doesn't charge when its on. |
| 23:08.27 | Alric | Nope, was broken already. |
| 23:08.28 | jsmith | Doh! |
| 23:08.33 | jsmith | It's under warranty, right? |
| 23:08.59 | Alric | Nope |
| 23:09.19 | jsmith | What?!? |
| 23:09.23 | Alric | Its a year old |
| 23:09.43 | jsmith | Ahhh... how much does Crapple want to fix it? |
| 23:09.54 | Alric | no idea. |
| 23:09.56 | Alric | Crapple, heh. |
| 23:09.58 | Alric | I haven't even asked. |
| 23:10.21 | jsmith | Is that why you're selling it? |
| 23:11.01 | Alric | Pretty much. |
| 23:11.07 | Alric | I have to use it in class a lot |
| 23:11.19 | jsmith | Why not just get it fixed? |
| 23:11.29 | Alric | Assumed it would cost a lot, heh. |
| 23:11.31 | jsmith | (You know you can go buy an extended warranty, right?) |
| 23:11.40 | jsmith | Naw, applecare is nice. |
| 23:12.16 | Alric | I don't know if I can get AppleCare. |
| 23:13.30 | Alric | It also seems to be slower than my Titanium PowerBook |
| 23:13.38 | Alric | which is 1ghz, 1gb ram. |
| 23:13.54 | Alric | It Benchmarks faster in xbench, but it rips DVDs slower in Handbrake. |
| 23:13.57 | Alric | Don't ask me why :P |
| 23:14.03 | Alric | And we're talking consistently 2x slower. |
| 23:17.26 | Alric | Too bad AppleCare is like $350 :/ |
| 23:32.59 | Alric | Meh. |
| 23:33.07 | Alric | Its soooo easy to spend money at store.apple.com :P |
| 23:33.32 | jsmith | Yup. |
| 23:33.41 | Alric | I look at PowerMacs, and go "I want!" |
| 23:33.42 | jsmith | So, did you do the dirty deed and give into applecare? |
| 23:33.49 | Alric | I'm thinking about it. |
| 23:33.58 | Alric | Also pondering selling both of my Powerbooks and buying one from Apple. |
| 23:34.03 | Alric | Brand new! |
| 23:34.16 | jsmith | How much do you want for your other one? |
| 23:34.21 | Alric | Which one? |
| 23:34.23 | Alric | My Titanium? |
| 23:34.26 | jsmith | The titanium |
| 23:34.30 | Alric | Hmmm |
| 23:34.35 | Alric | Let me see what I paid for it. |
| 23:34.35 | jsmith | (or unobtainium, in my case) |
| 23:34.39 | Alric | haha |
| 23:34.42 | Alric | You see that movie? |
| 23:34.46 | jsmith | Which movie? |
| 23:34.52 | Alric | Unobtainium! |
| 23:34.55 | Alric | The Core! |
| 23:34.56 | jsmith | Nope. |
| 23:35.11 | Alric | They made a metal in that movie, and the maker called it "Unobtainium" for short :P |
| 23:35.24 | Alric | He said its full name had 37 syllibles. |
| 23:36.51 | Alric | Hmmm |
| 23:37.16 | jsmith | Hmmmmn... is right. |
| 23:37.26 | Alric | I bought it for $1134 |
| 23:37.31 | Alric | On July 4. |
| 23:37.34 | jsmith | That's exactly what my wife will say when I tell her I want to pay way too much for some unobtanium. |
| 23:37.38 | Alric | haha |
| 23:39.14 | Alric | Using it right now. |
| 23:40.12 | Alric | Wow |
| 23:40.20 | Alric | Here's a TI selling for $1250 |
| 23:40.24 | Alric | Geez |
| 23:40.35 | Alric | and its actually selling. on eBay. |
| 23:40.47 | Alric | http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-PowerBook-G4-Titanium-1ghz-15-2-Superdrive_W0QQitemZ5822786349QQcategoryZ14909QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |