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`16:41.50`	`blitz[class]`	`i scared him off`
`16:43.57`	`Alric`	`Indeed.`
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`17:23.56`	`Alric`	`Hrm. mpg123 or...`
`17:23.59`	`blitz[class]`	`jsmith: wb!`
`17:24.14`	`jsmith`	`blitz[class]: Welcome to the US!`
`17:24.24`	`blitz[class]`	`jsmith: thanks! I heard your boss took the news well`
`17:24.29`	`Alric`	`Eh?`
`17:24.33`	`Alric`	`Whats going on here?!? :)`
`17:25.13`	`blitz[class]`	`Alric: secret community`
`17:25.35`	`Alric`	`Bah`
`17:26.29`	`jsmith`	`blitz[class]: Yeah, he did...`
`17:26.34`	`jsmith`	`Surprisingly well...`
`17:26.49`	`blitz[class]`	`h00t! :)`
`17:27.01`	`Alric`	`Going where/`
`17:27.02`	`Alric`	`?`
`17:27.39`	`jsmith`	`Alric: To work w/ Steve Sokol, Olle, and Blitz!`
`17:27.46`	`blitz[class]`	`w00t!`
`17:27.47`	`blitz[class]`	`:)`
`17:27.51`	`Alric`	`blitz moved to the US?`
`17:27.55`	`blitz[class]`	`nope`
`17:28.00`	`blitz[class]`	`I just take US money and jobs :D`
`17:28.02`	`Alric`	`Oh, virtual stuff.`
`17:28.07`	`jsmith`	`Alric: Bingo!`
`17:28.09`	`Alric`	`Thats okay, we like cheap labor.`
`17:28.14`	`blitz[class]`	`Alric: I'm not cheap`
`17:28.19`	`jsmith`	`He's an illegal migrant worker...`
`17:28.24`	`Alric`	`How cheap are you ?`
`17:28.29`	`Alric`	`Or expensive, rather.`
`17:28.34`	`blitz[class]`	`Alric: and your dollar sucks against the Canadian dollar -- less than 15%`
`17:28.43`	`jsmith`	`Who just happens to be making more than the average for his class...`
`17:28.44`	`blitz[class]`	`Alric: I make enough`
`17:29.06`	`Alric`	`Well thats absolutely not helpful in the determination.`
`17:29.07`	`blitz[class]`	`I didn't make much last year, but this year I'll make about 3 times as much`
`17:30.59`	`Alric`	`I love projections.`
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`17:31.42`	`jsmith`	`Hello ToTo`
`17:31.46`	`Alric`	`ugh`
`17:31.53`	`jsmith`	`ToTo: Seems my wife wants to visit Italy this summer...`
`17:31.56`	`Alric`	`Messing with stuff, they broke the phones.`
`17:32.30`	`ToTo`	`jsmith, hi`
`17:32.31`	`jsmith`	`Alric: How? Another DHCP server on the network? Change IP addressing schemes? Took down the TFTP server?`
`17:32.40`	`Alric`	`no`
`17:32.44`	`Alric`	`pulled the T1 cable from the channel bank`
`17:32.50`	`jsmith`	`That helps...`
`17:33.00`	`Alric`	`yeah really.`
`17:33.03`	`blitz[class]`	`Alric: lol`
`17:33.07`	`jsmith`	`Alric: What, you automatic notification system didn't kick in and tell you when they did it?`
`17:33.17`	`ToTo`	`jsmith, what city she want to visit?`
`17:33.19`	`jsmith`	`Alric: Oh, wait -- you don't have a monitoring system!`
`17:33.20`	`blitz[class]`	`hey.... $0 * 3 is still $0 :)`
`17:33.26`	`jsmith`	`ToTo: I'm not sure...`
`17:33.46`	`jsmith`	`ToTo: We're going to be in the UK for a week, and then she wants to visit Italy or Spain...`
`17:33.58`	`ToTo`	`jsmith, rome naples are the best`
`17:34.04`	`jsmith`	`ToTo: In Spain, at least I know the language -- in Italy, I'll be totally lost :-)`
`17:34.18`	`blitz[class]`	`jsmith: I was going to say go to Italy because no one speaks english in Spain, but you'd probably be ok with that`
`17:34.25`	`Alric`	`Uhm`
`17:34.26`	`blitz[class]`	`jsmith: lol, exactly :)`
`17:34.29`	`Alric`	`wtf do you monitor that? :P`
`17:34.29`	`ToTo`	`jsmith, but italian people speak english :)`
`17:34.55`	`jsmith`	`ToTo: Thank goodness... maybe I can pick up some Italian before then...`
`17:35.03`	`ToTo`	`eheheheh`
`17:35.13`	`blitz[class]`	`I'd love to go to Italy, I imagine it looks very nice`
`17:35.23`	`blitz[class]`	`I saw some pictures of Greece as well and would like to visit there`
`17:35.25`	`jsmith`	`blitz[class]: It's all about the history and the food :-)`
`17:35.31`	`blitz[class]`	`aye aye`
`17:35.32`	`ToTo`	`jsmith, where are u from?`
`17:35.43`	`ToTo`	`blitz[class], and you?`
`17:35.52`	`blitz[class]`	`Toronto, ON, Canada`
`17:35.59`	`Alric`	`51st state above Montana.`
`17:36.01`	`jsmith`	`ToTo: I'm from Salt Lake City, UT, USA`
`17:36.02`	`blitz[class]`	`jsmith is from the saaaaauth`
`17:36.16`	`ToTo`	`k`
`17:36.49`	`blitz[class]`	`Alric: you wish -- just don't tell your president Alberta has oil`
`17:37.11`	`ToTo`	`jsmith, excusme but i haven't read your book preface ;)`
`17:37.36`	`jsmith`	`ToTo: No problem... I'm not sure the preface says anything about where I live...`
`17:37.56`	`blitz[class]`	`jsmith: were you the only one who put your email in the book? :)`
`17:38.00`	`Alric`	`Yeah, he doesn't want crazy Asterisk-Doc-wannabes knocking his door down...`
`17:38.01`	`ToTo`	`so good`
`17:39.15`	`jsmith`	`Alric: Did I tell you I started the Utah Asterisk Users' Group? Now I have my very own set of groupies...`
`17:39.23`	`Alric`	`haha`
`17:39.26`	`blitz[class]`	`lol, nice!`
`17:39.30`	`blitz[class]`	`I just signed another book`
`17:39.32`	`Alric`	`UAUD?`
`17:39.34`	`Alric`	`err, UAUG`
`17:39.38`	`blitz[class]`	`TAUG > * :)`
`17:39.51`	`blitz[class]`	`AUG wars! :)`
`17:39.55`	`Alric`	`All > TAUG`
`17:39.59`	`Alric`	`All > Canada`
`17:40.56`	`jsmith`	`Alric: UTAUG`
`17:41.23`	`Alric`	`UT?`
`17:41.32`	`blitz[class]`	`Utah`
`17:41.38`	`Alric`	`nice I guess...`
`17:41.44`	`blitz[class]`	`sheesh, even I could figure that out :)`
`17:42.23`	`Alric`	`Hey`
`17:42.29`	`Alric`	`Don't make me come up there and annex Alberta.`
`17:42.43`	`blitz[class]`	`whatever, they want to be part of the US anyways`
`17:42.49`	`blitz[class]`	`and I don't live in Alberta`
`17:43.04`	`blitz[class]`	`I'd be surprised if you even knew where it was`
`17:43.50`	`blitz[class]`	`possibly just has ignorant though :D`
`17:43.59`	`blitz[class]`	`you need to learn more from jsmith`
`17:44.08`	`blitz[class]`	he's my favourite amer`cun
`17:46.28`	`blitz[class]`	`jsmith: I'm thinking I'm going to fly into Oakland and catch a ride with you to SF if I can`
`17:59.08`	`jsmith`	`jsmith: OK... after I get out of this mtg, I'll send you my schedule.`
`18:00.35`	`blitz[class]`	`jsmith-mtg: no problem -- still need to figure out about my 2 days that I have to fill before I head there`
`18:01.00`	`blitz[class]`	`jsmith-mtg: I might see if Steve would be willing to let me crash in the guest bedroom at his place so I can hack on the E911 portal`
`18:04.07`	`Alric`	`this mean Jared is working on a GUI again? :)`
`18:04.16`	`blitz[class]`	`probably`
`18:04.19`	`blitz[class]`	`at some point`
`18:04.33`	`Alric`	`Ah, full circle...`
`18:04.40`	`blitz[class]`	`totally`
`18:05.01`	`blitz[class]`	`thats crazy that Jared and I first thought about creating a GUI for asterisk, then wrote docs, and now writing GUIs :)`
`18:05.27`	`Alric`	`yeah...`
`20:28.02`	`jsmith-mtg`	`blitz[class]: Worse comes to worse, you can crash in Salt Lake City at my place...`
`20:51.55`	`blitz[class]`	`jsmith: are you driving from there, or flying?`
`20:52.10`	`blitz[class]`	`might actually be kind of cool to see your homestead :)`
`20:59.06`	`jsmith`	`blitz[class]: Flying.`
`21:03.20`	`blitz[class]`	`into Oakland?`
`21:07.09`	`jsmith`	`Yup`
`21:07.16`	`jsmith`	`And then driving from OAK to SFO`
`21:07.31`	`blitz[class]`	`wonder how much more that adds to a ticket if I fly to your house first :)`
`21:08.25`	`jsmith`	`Not sure... either way, you'd better buy tickets quickly, or they'll be pricey.`
`21:09.30`	`blitz[class]`	`yah... I have to get them today`
`21:09.48`	`blitz[class]`	`jsmith: would that be cool to crash at your place, or would i be better off making other arrangements?`
`21:10.04`	`jsmith`	`No, my house is pretty much a hotel...`
`21:10.10`	`blitz[class]`	`lol - nice :)`
`21:10.14`	`jsmith`	`You're more than welcome to crash for as long as you'd like.`
`21:10.33`	`jsmith`	`Free wifi, free food, get to hang out w/ me in the evenings...`
`21:10.50`	`jsmith`	`Free entertainment (if you call my kids entertaining)`
`21:11.45`	`blitz[class]`	`cool -- let me check how much tickets might be to fly to Salt Lake -- what is the code for the airport there?`
`21:12.24`	`blitz[class]`	`I'd rather stay somewhere with someone I know than in a boring hotel`
`21:12.46`	`jsmith`	`SLC`
`21:14.10`	`blitz[class]`	`what time you leaving and with what carrier?`
`21:14.31`	`jsmith`	`Delta flight -- leaving like 8:00am on the 24th.`
`21:14.38`	`blitz[class]`	`oh, on the 24th eh`
`21:14.47`	`blitz[class]`	`I might leave on the 23rd because I think we get the hotel that night`
`21:14.56`	`blitz[class]`	`and I want to visit a friend in downtown SF`
`21:15.00`	`jsmith`	`Yeah... couldn't find a good flight on the 23rd.`
`21:15.06`	`blitz[class]`	`so you'd only have to put up with me for 2 days :)`
`21:15.28`	`jsmith`	`Tue 24JAN DELTA 3925 8:19AM`
`21:15.33`	`Alric`	`hmmm`
`21:15.34`	`jsmith`	`Returning...`
`21:15.35`	`Alric`	`Config file error.`
`21:15.36`	`Alric`	`wtf.`
`21:15.47`	`jsmith`	`Fri 27JAN DELTA 1743 1:25PM`
`21:16.33`	`Alric`	`Seems like it was some kind of mismatch, maybe.`
`21:17.09`	`blitz[class]`	`jsmith: thanks -- if all else fails I'll try to find the same flight`
`21:17.26`	`jsmith`	`OK.`
`21:17.28`	`jsmith`	`Cool..`
`21:17.36`	`jsmith`	`I'll even give you a free ride to the airport...`
`21:18.18`	`blitz[class]`	`wow!`
`21:18.23`	`blitz[class]`	`look at this hospitality :D`
`21:18.32`	`blitz[class]`	`taxi's are expensive`
`21:18.57`	`jsmith`	`no kidding...`
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`21:19.19`	`blitz[class]`	`looks like its going to be around $650 whatever I do... not TOO bad`
`21:19.30`	`blitz[class]`	`not great...`
`21:20.16`	`Alric`	`Well lovely.`
`21:20.28`	`Alric`	`I can't change the username / pass on this phone :)`
`21:24.06`	`jsmith`	`Alric: Why not?`
`21:24.13`	`Alric`	`Well, I just found out how.`
`21:24.25`	`Alric`	`A step I normally just bypass has the setup option.`
`21:24.26`	`Alric`	`imp`
`21:24.44`	`Alric`	`Oh, I found out why my 7960 takes so long to boot up.`
`21:25.00`	`jsmith`	`Why?`
`21:25.06`	`Alric`	`Turns out, it is TFTP looking for this file that I've never heard of before.`
`21:25.14`	`jsmith`	`Which file?`
`21:25.25`	`jsmith`	`SEP<mac>.cnf.xml?`
`21:25.36`	`jsmith`	`Or a .tlv file?\`
`21:25.37`	`Alric`	`No, some weird one.`
`21:25.40`	`Alric`	`I've never heard of it before.`
`21:25.46`	`jsmith`	`Gimme a filename!`
`21:26.11`	`Alric`	`Well I don't remember :P`
`21:26.26`	`Alric`	`This was about a week ago.`
`21:26.37`	`Alric`	`But it was a really, really weird file name I'd not seen / heard of /seen in docs.`
`21:28.14`	`Alric`	`You're just saying that so I'll go dig up the tftp logs.`
`21:28.50`	`blitz[class]`	`I don't believe it either`
`21:28.57`	`Alric`	`Feh`
`21:28.58`	`Alric`	`Fine.`
`21:29.00`	`Alric`	`I'll look for it.`
`21:29.44`	`blitz[class]`	`:D`
`21:29.56`	`Alric`	`well grnad`
`21:29.58`	`Alric`	`grand*`
`21:30.00`	`Alric`	`logs look to be gone`
`21:30.04`	`blitz[class]`	`oh joy`
`21:30.11`	`blitz[class]`	`just reboot the phone then and turn on tcpdump`
`21:30.17`	`blitz[class]`	`tcpdump port 69`
`21:30.32`	`Alric`	`my only 7960 is currently in production.`
`21:33.20`	`Alric`	`And this polycom still will not boot.`
`21:35.59`	`jsmith`	`Alric: Send me one, and I'll figure it out`
`21:36.28`	`Alric`	`hehe`
`21:48.10`	`Alric`	`This is nutty. Two phones, exact same config, one boots, the other says config error.`
`21:49.41`	`jsmith`	`Different firmware versions?`
`21:49.41`	`jsmith`	`Copy/paste error with regards to the MAC addr?`
`21:49.46`	`jsmith`	`One running MGCP, and the other SIP?`
`21:49.51`	`Alric`	`Nope`
`21:49.56`	`Alric`	`Each running SIP`
`21:50.10`	`jsmith`	`Same firmware version?`
`21:50.14`	`jsmith`	`Same bootloader version?`
`21:50.17`	`Alric`	`Yep`
`21:50.29`	`Alric`	`Well, firmware is the same, I can't confirm bootloader.`
`21:50.34`	`jsmith`	`Is one an IP-500 and the other an IP-501?`
`21:50.40`	`Alric`	`each 501s`
`21:51.10`	`Alric`	`looks like the same bootloader`
`21:52.03`	`jsmith`	`Sounds like an RMA waiting to happen...`
`21:52.15`	`Alric`	`Hopefully not.`
`21:53.04`	`Alric`	`boom`
`21:53.08`	`Alric`	`permissions-related.`
`21:53.19`	`jsmith`	`Cool...`
`21:53.27`	`Alric`	`I do most things as root.`
`21:53.35`	`Alric`	`Rather than as the user the phone downloads their FTP files as.`
`21:53.43`	`Alric`	`Hey :P`
`21:53.49`	`Alric`	`I'm a benevolent root user!`
`21:54.03`	`jsmith`	`Accident waiting to happen....`
`21:54.26`	`Alric`	`What do you guys do?`
`21:54.33`	`jsmith`	`su -c 'make install'`
`21:54.44`	`jsmith`	`Or sudo`
`21:55.14`	`Alric`	`hmmm`
`21:55.21`	`Alric`	`Thats probabaly how things should be done.`
`21:55.28`	`Alric`	`I just have less patience...`
`21:58.22`	`jsmith`	`Imagine that...`
`21:58.25`	`blitz[class]`	`patience is a virtue`
`21:58.38`	`jsmith`	`Patients is what doctors have...`
`21:59.46`	`Alric`	`or should have...`
`22:00.32`	`jsmith`	`Well, they're plenty of patients in Canada...`
`22:01.17`	`blitz[class]`	`jsmith: stop hating on Canada, we're moving to the right wing on Jan 23rd`
`22:01.20`	`blitz[class]`	`:)`
`22:01.37`	`jsmith`	`blitz[class]: Oh happy day!`
`22:01.44`	`blitz[class]`	`not for me :(`
`22:01.58`	`blitz[class]`	`Steven Harper is a very very scary man with a hidden agenda`
`22:03.12`	`jsmith`	`Well, I wouldn't be surprised at all to hear that people on the right here have hidden agendas as well...`
`22:03.35`	`Alric`	`Right and left mean so little to me.`
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