| 00:07.26 | DarkFlib | ib |
| 00:13.38 | jsmith | Alric: Aye! |
| 00:13.58 | jsmith | Alric: But call up Polycom and tell them you want to order 20 phones, and they say "Why don't you become a reseller then?" |
| 00:39.09 | Alric | Yeah |
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| 01:50.00 | russellb | just so you guys know, I cited your book as a source for my speech in my "public speaking" class. :) |
| 01:59.26 | jsmith-away | russellb: Thanks, man! |
| 01:59.35 | jsmith-away | russellb: I hope you got a C on your speech... |
| 01:59.38 | russellb | haha |
| 01:59.46 | russellb | I don't give it until Wednesday |
| 01:59.55 | jsmith-away | What did our book have to do with your speech? |
| 01:59.57 | russellb | My speech is going to sound like a press release |
| 02:00.03 | jsmith-away | Oh yeah? |
| 02:00.05 | russellb | well I have to give an informative speech |
| 02:00.09 | russellb | so ... I'm talking about telephones |
| 02:00.10 | russellb | :) |
| 02:00.19 | Alric | Ohhh fun. |
| 02:00.52 | jsmith-away | russellb: Have the guys in Huntsville send you the wireless princess... |
| 02:00.56 | russellb | nope |
| 02:00.59 | jsmith-away | russellb: Then you'll get an A |
| 02:01.13 | russellb | sweet |
| 02:01.30 | Alric | Wireless princess? |
| 02:01.32 | jsmith-away | See, the point about public speaking is to wow the audience, or make them think about something they've never thought about. |
| 02:01.47 | jsmith-away | After that, it doesn't matter what you say -- they'll still be thinking "Where's the wire?" |
| 02:01.58 | russellb | I'm supposed to have an "attention getter", too. I've got something fun for that |
| 02:02.02 | jsmith-away | Alric: Old bell-style phone, with no wires. |
| 02:02.07 | Alric | oh |
| 02:02.08 | jsmith-away | russellb: Oh yeah? |
| 02:02.11 | russellb | I'm going to collect everyone's cell phone number before class ... |
| 02:02.18 | Alric | Did you guys ever set that up in the Atlantia subway thing? |
| 02:02.20 | Alric | marta? |
| 02:02.21 | jsmith-away | russellb: And call them all at the same time? |
| 02:02.29 | jsmith-away | Alric: Yeah... |
| 02:02.31 | russellb | type them into a file, and run a little bash script that drops call files to call everyone (with the callerid of the teacher) and drop them into a meetme |
| 02:02.34 | russellb | :) |
| 02:02.40 | jsmith-away | russellb: Perfect! |
| 02:02.59 | russellb | It should be amusing |
| 02:03.11 | jsmith-away | Yeah... |
| 02:06.50 | jsmith-away | Make sure you have an amusing greeting before the meetme, and force them to all record their names before entering the conference. |
| 02:07.03 | Alric | That works? |
| 02:08.00 | jsmith-away | Uh, yeah... |
| 02:08.06 | jsmith-away | Why wouldn't it? |
| 02:08.16 | Alric | Didn't work for me last time I tried it |
| 02:08.35 | jsmith-away | exten => _55X,n,MeetMe(${EXTEN},iM) |
| 02:08.54 | Alric | iM... |
| 02:09.01 | Alric | are both of those required? |
| 02:09.06 | jsmith-away | No. |
| 02:09.22 | jsmith-away | It's up to you to figure out which one you need... |
| 02:09.32 | russellb | heh, M is musiconhold |
| 02:09.48 | russellb | i is announce user join/leave |
| 02:09.52 | russellb | wtf does that mean :-p |
| 02:10.03 | Alric | I tried Meetme(1000|di) |
| 02:10.09 | jsmith-away | It doesn't mean anything.... you didn't see that... |
| 02:11.10 | jsmith-away | Appendix B |
| 02:11.32 | jsmith-away | Page 260 |
| 02:11.46 | russellb | is that the thing that requires user's to record their name? |
| 02:11.53 | russellb | or is that another option |
| 02:11.58 | russellb | I can't keep up with all of these things :) |
| 02:12.59 | russellb | i think it is :) |
| 02:13.42 | jsmith-away | Try it... Try it, you'll see! |
| 02:14.28 | russellb | but but but but |
| 02:14.31 | russellb | i don't wannnnnnna |
| 02:14.33 | russellb | :-p |
| 02:15.08 | jsmith-away | You do not like green eggs and ham? |
| 02:15.40 | jsmith-away | rbr... gotta go try something on my wife's machine... |
| 02:15.51 | jsmith-away | s/rbr/brb/ |
| 02:16.01 | Alric | hehe |
| 02:16.03 | Alric | jbot rocks |
| 02:16.04 | jbot | you bet your perl modules I do! |
| 02:16.14 | Alric | \haha |
| 02:16.20 | Alric | Thats great. |
| 02:16.22 | Alric | brb |
| 02:16.26 | Alric | Going *home* |
| 02:16.32 | Alric | Might even test some new 8.2 sip firmware. |
| 02:16.36 | Alric | Or watch 24... |
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| 16:26.08 | jsmith | MacBook Pro? |
| 16:26.16 | jsmith | Oh yeah -- Polycom phones. |
| 16:26.19 | Alric | Nah |
| 16:26.22 | Alric | Tuition loan repayment. |
| 16:26.30 | jsmith | School. |
| 16:26.38 | jsmith | On a credit-card? |
| 16:26.41 | Alric | Yeah |
| 16:26.59 | Alric | Lovely AAdvantage... |
| 16:27.54 | jsmith | Here, I'll give you all my AAdvantage miles... they're of no AAdvantage to me... |
| 16:28.40 | Alric | I'll have around 20k miles after this statement. |
| 16:30.35 | jsmith | You want me to send you another 4000? |
| 16:32.09 | Alric | You can do that? |
| 16:34.24 | jsmith | Probably... |
| 16:34.26 | jsmith | Let me look |
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| 17:17.18 | blitzrage | hey oh |
| 17:18.43 | Alric | yo |
| 17:32.04 | jsmith | blitzrage! |
| 17:32.14 | jsmith | blitzrage: When do you fly down this direction? |
| 17:33.36 | blitzrage | jsmith: Tuesday |
| 17:33.47 | blitzrage | jsmith: do you know where our hotel is? I don't have any info on it... |
| 17:33.59 | blitzrage | and I need to send the info over to O'Reilly so we have some books to give away |
| 17:34.30 | Alric | give away? |
| 17:34.35 | Alric | Where? :) |
| 17:34.58 | jsmith | blitzrage: Yeah, hold please |
| 17:35.00 | blitzrage | VON |
| 17:35.03 | blitzrage | jsmith: coolio |
| 17:35.10 | jsmith | Alric: Your AAdvantage number? |
| 17:36.03 | blitzrage | jsmith: to secure a SVN for login and for allowing public read access, that is done via Apache or in SVN itself? (I need to go and load the SVN book up I guess :)) |
| 17:36.25 | jsmith | Sleep Inn Silicon Valley >> |
| 17:36.25 | jsmith | 2390 Harris Way |
| 17:36.25 | jsmith | San Jose, CA, US |
| 17:36.34 | jsmith | blitzrage: Through Apache. |
| 17:36.35 | blitzrage | how do I not have this info? :D |
| 17:36.44 | jsmith | blitzrage: Go ask Lisa! |
| 17:36.47 | blitzrage | jsmith: ok, thats what I thought -- which file again? .htaccess right? |
| 17:37.10 | blitzrage | got a ZIP for that place? |
| 17:37.11 | jsmith | blitzrage: /etc/httpd/conf.d/<virtual host>.conf |
| 17:37.43 | jsmith | 95131 |
| 17:37.46 | Alric | jsmith: Gotta look it up. |
| 17:37.55 | Alric | haha |
| 17:37.59 | Alric | Skynet you mean |
| 17:38.21 | blitzrage | google.jsmith.com :) |
| 17:38.23 | Alric | Google is Skynet. |
| 17:40.48 | Alric | ugh |
| 17:40.51 | Alric | Can't find my # online. |
| 17:43.25 | jsmith | Alric: How am I supposed to send you free miles if you don't know your number? |
| 17:45.14 | Alric | 9X773E0 |
| 17:47.23 | jsmith | Alric: Confirmation on the spelling of your last name, plus your email addr please. |
| 17:48.10 | jsmith | Wait, never mind. |
| 17:48.20 | jsmith | They wanna charge me $50 to transfer the miles to you... |
| 17:48.30 | jsmith | I'll sell you 4000 miles for $50... |
| 17:51.49 | jsmith | blitzrage: We're meeting at the Dollar rental car counter. |
| 17:51.53 | blitzrage | I see :) |
| 17:52.01 | blitzrage | I didn't know VON was 4 days long |
| 17:52.08 | jsmith | blitzrage: Walk out the front of the terminal, and catch the big blue bus that says "Rental Car Center" |
| 17:52.24 | blitzrage | well, you land apparently 5 minutes after me |
| 17:52.32 | jsmith | blitzrage: Get on the bus, it'll go past Terminal C, then make a U-turn, go back past your terminal, take a right, go over a bridge, drive all the way past the rental cars, go around the corner, and come back behind the rental car buildings. |
| 17:52.54 | jsmith | blitzrage: Get off at the *second* rental car stop. The first is for Hertz and Avis. |
| 17:53.05 | Alric | Take notes. |
| 17:53.08 | jsmith | blitzrage: Oh, and Lisa gets in within 5 minutes of you too. |
| 17:53.31 | blitzrage | cool -- I think I'll just follow yu since you seem to know where yo're going :) |
| 17:53.46 | blitzrage | wierd -- I leave the day after you guys :) |
| 17:54.19 | Alric | Lisa? |
| 17:55.05 | blitzrage | yah, Jared's other wife |
| 17:55.26 | blitzrage | :) |
| 17:55.34 | blitzrage | no way! |
| 17:55.47 | blitzrage | Lisa is the person who makes sure everyone gets where they should be going :) |
| 17:56.34 | Alric | So you're in the states Leif? |
| 17:56.48 | blitzrage | no |
| 17:56.50 | blitzrage | I'm in Canada |
| 17:56.54 | Alric | Oh |
| 17:56.55 | Alric | Too bad. |
| 17:57.06 | blitzrage | depends on your perspective :) |
| 17:57.47 | jsmith | Alric: Lisa isn't my wife -- she's another person that works for our company. |
| 17:57.59 | Alric | What do you guys do? |
| 17:58.08 | Alric | And I kinda figured... |
| 17:58.11 | jsmith | Alric: Asterisk consulting and training... |
| 17:58.22 | jsmith | Alric: Oh, and Astricon -- dont' forget Astricon |
| 17:58.24 | Alric | Keeping busy with that? |
| 17:58.30 | blitzrage | oh yah |
| 17:58.31 | jsmith | Alric: How can you not know this? |
| 17:58.56 | jsmith | Well, he is in Texas... |
| 17:59.50 | Alric | Meh. |
| 18:01.25 | jsmith | blitzrage: http://www.bananaleaf-usa.com/ <-- we're eating here one night |
| 18:01.25 | blitzrage | :D |
| 18:01.51 | blitzrage | nice! |
| 18:02.03 | blitzrage | I always get to eat good when I'm on the road at least |
| 18:07.54 | jsmith | I won't let you starve, I promise... |
| 18:08.30 | blitzrage | :) |
| 18:09.51 | blitzrage | anyone know where the <virtual>.conf files should go on FreeBSD? |
| 18:10.09 | blitzrage | /usr/local/etc/apache2/ seems to be the path for httpd.conf |
| 18:10.13 | jsmith | You may just have to manually add them to httpd.conf |
| 18:10.26 | blitzrage | ok cool |
| 18:10.34 | jsmith | Under most modern Linux distros, Apache will read all the .conf files out of conf.d/ |
| 18:10.44 | jsmith | But old-school is to put everything in httpd.conf |
| 18:11.00 | blitzrage | gotcha -- never used FreeBSD before :) |
| 18:16.06 | Alric | Weird. |
| 18:16.14 | Alric | Cisco 7970s allow SSH? |
| 18:17.18 | jsmith | Alric: Not surprising... Cisco is finally moving away from telnet |
| 19:05.10 | Alric | Excellent.. |
| 19:07.09 | Alric | meh |
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| 19:12.53 | jsmith | Alric: They're sharp as marbles, eh? |
| 19:15.14 | Alric | Phone ringing, I've disabled DND |
| 19:15.27 | Alric | So to stop it ringing, they tear up my cubicle to unplug the phone. |
| 19:15.43 | jsmith | Nice! |
| 19:15.48 | Alric | Yeah. |
| 19:16.02 | jsmith | I'd shoot somebody if they did that. |
| 19:16.18 | Alric | Hmmm... 9mm or .40? |
| 19:16.22 | Alric | ... or .50 :) |
| 19:18.00 | blitzrage | .44 |
| 19:18.03 | blitzrage | or .45 :) |
| 19:18.24 | Alric | hehe |
| 19:19.21 | Alric | Expensive to actually fire though. |
| 19:19.40 | blitzrage | nothing is expensive to fire if you can reload your own shells |
| 19:19.49 | Alric | $1 buys me about 5-7 .40 bullets. $1 buys me 1 .308 shell. |
| 19:19.56 | Alric | Well, you still have to buy the stuff. |
| 19:20.06 | Alric | and spend time reloading |
| 19:20.12 | Alric | Nothing is free. There is no free lunch! |
| 19:21.15 | jsmith | blitzrage: Free lunch? |
| 20:20.14 | DarkFlib | There's no such thing as a free luch |
| 20:20.25 | DarkFlib | or even a free lunch |
| 20:21.38 | DarkFlib | does it need to be an actual polycom branded wall wart? |
| 20:22.06 | Alric | Just need it to work |
| 20:22.14 | Alric | A company that was demoing some polycom 301s lost the power cube. |
| 20:22.27 | Alric | So I need to know how much they cost so I can bill them for it and then replace it. |
| 20:22.43 | DarkFlib | then find the power cube that is the same voltage and can deliver the same current or slightly greater |
| 20:23.06 | DarkFlib | one sec... |
| 20:23.17 | Alric | you happen to be a reseller? :) |
| 20:24.44 | DarkFlib | no |
| 20:25.24 | DarkFlib | I knew a british company that sold voip stuff... but unfortunately they only had grandstream power cubes |
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| 20:56.38 | blitzrage | Alric: I had priced it out... and it was going to be around $50+ |
| 20:56.50 | Alric | ?? |
| 20:56.52 | Alric | Power cube? |
| 20:57.21 | jsmith | Alric: Did they lose the whole PoE injection cable, or just the wall wart? |
| 20:57.29 | Alric | wall wart |
| 20:57.35 | jsmith | Alric: I found a wall-wart that was the same voltage, and it works just great! |
| 20:57.37 | Alric | Its a 301, not a 501 |
| 20:57.54 | Alric | 501 has the PoE injection cable. |
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| 21:03.03 | jsmith | cypromis! |
| 21:03.07 | jsmith | Welcome back! |
| 21:34.53 | cypromis | :) |
| 22:07.07 | Alric | Mhmmm. T.38 support... |
| 22:09.28 | jsmith | Well, sort of. |
| 22:11.54 | Alric | Yeah |
| 22:16.08 | Alric | meh |
| 22:16.14 | Alric | Spotlight might be great for finding things... |
| 22:16.22 | Alric | But its not so great about actually telling you where they are. |
| 22:22.25 | jsmith | Alric: It's a Mac -- you don't need to be bothered by paths / folders / directories / locations on the disk |
| 22:22.30 | jsmith | Alric: Everything "just works" |
| 22:23.21 | Alric | I realize that :P |
| 22:25.35 | jsmith | Alric: I know someone who can get you a good deal... |
| 22:25.41 | Alric | Oh yeah? |
| 22:25.51 | jsmith | Yeah... I can sell them to you for Amazon prices |
| 22:26.03 | Alric | Was going to use them for training. |
| 22:26.11 | jsmith | And even guarantee they'll get there later than Amazon's fast shipping. |
| 22:26.24 | Alric | later? |
| 22:27.48 | jsmith | Uh, well -- let's just say that me getting books on time from O'Reilly is a hit or miss proposition... |
| 22:28.07 | Alric | I'm on no time crunch. |
| 22:28.15 | Alric | Take CC? ;) |
| 22:28.29 | jsmith | No, but Amazon does... do you get the hint yet? |
| 22:32.23 | Alric | jipped, whatever |
| 22:38.19 | blitzrage | not really... its not like we're getting rich :) |
| 22:39.14 | jsmith | Alric: We get underpaid, no matter where you buy them from. |
| 22:39.20 | jsmith | Alric: In other words, it's the same either way |
| 22:40.06 | Alric | Wow, Ed Guy posted a review on Amazon. |
| 22:40.29 | blitzrage | yep -- he did |
| 22:40.31 | Alric | woah. |
| 22:40.35 | Alric | Amazon has a wedding registry. |
| 22:40.45 | blitzrage | heh |
| 22:41.06 | jsmith | You registered at Walmart? |
| 22:41.09 | Alric | No... |
| 22:41.16 | Alric | So far, JcPenney and Target. |
| 22:41.30 | jsmith | Oooh -- cheap like Walmart, but with better taste! |
| 22:41.34 | Alric | Well, Target may be pending, but I know we did at the other |
| 22:41.51 | jsmith | That's too bad -- I have a new Target that's super-close. |
| 22:42.14 | Alric | Don't you worry, Target will be there :) |
| 22:42.36 | Alric | She didn't believe me :( |
| 22:43.18 | jsmith | It does? |
| 22:43.23 | Alric | No |
| 22:43.32 | jsmith | So when I get divorced and remarried, you'll buy me a macbook pro? |
| 22:43.45 | Alric | ... |
| 22:43.48 | jsmith | Bah... |
| 22:44.31 | jsmith | FWIW, I might be getting a Powerbook |
| 22:44.39 | Alric | Oh? |
| 22:44.42 | Alric | What model ? |
| 22:44.45 | jsmith | No clue. |
| 22:45.48 | Alric | I picked up a 21" Apple CRT the other day. |
| 22:46.12 | Alric | Its a huge thing, from the era of the G4. |
| 22:46.29 | jsmith | CRT? |
| 22:46.35 | jsmith | Youch... |
| 22:46.42 | jsmith | Must weigh like 300 lbs |
| 22:46.55 | Alric | Nah |
| 22:47.08 | jsmith | blitzrage: That's like 80 kilos for you sissy metric folks |
| 22:47.09 | Alric | I carried it up a flight of stairs.. |
| 22:47.24 | jsmith | Ah, where'd blitzen go? |
| 22:49.24 | Alric | No idea. |
| 22:50.07 | Alric | Need something that covers basic Linux stuff, that I can print out. |
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| 22:50.37 | jsmith | Alric: Tux Magazine? |
| 22:50.55 | Alric | Tux Magazine. Hmm. |
| 22:51.16 | Alric | Wonder what ever happened to the Linux Documentation Project. |
| 22:51.20 | Alric | Back on sunsite.unc.edu :) |
| 22:52.36 | jsmith | linuxdoc.org, or something like that |
| 22:52.38 | jsmith | It changed names |
| 22:52.43 | Alric | tldp.org atm |
| 22:57.34 | Alric | Gotta take newbies and convert them into Linux/Asterisk Gurus! |
| 23:03.40 | jsmith | Alric: Why not just send them to our trainings! |
| 23:05.32 | Alric | Too expensive. |
| 23:05.49 | DarkFlib | why not drill a hole in their head and push a manual in? |
| 23:06.28 | Alric | I was thinking of hitting them over the head with the manual... |
| 23:06.41 | Alric | It'll be a 3" 3-ring binder full of print-outs, and the TFOT book :) |
| 23:07.09 | DarkFlib | UK doesn't use 3 ring binders much unless its an imported US course |
| 23:08.39 | DarkFlib | so?!? |
| 23:08.45 | DarkFlib | did I say you were? |
| 23:08.46 | DarkFlib | :P |
| 23:09.14 | DarkFlib | generally 2 or 4 ring binders here |
| 23:09.45 | DarkFlib | but then the paper sizes are also different |
| 23:10.14 | DarkFlib | A4 is most common here.... no letter in sight... |
| 23:11.59 | Alric | hmmm |
| 23:12.01 | Alric | Interestin |
| 23:12.05 | Alric | g |
| 23:12.17 | jsmith | Alric: You really ought to get out more... |
| 23:12.26 | Alric | ?? |
| 23:12.43 | DarkFlib | I could even give you the sizes of the paper and hole positions if you want... |
| 23:27.42 | jsmith | DarkFlib: Yeah, you too... |
| 23:28.43 | Alric | Why do I need to get out more again? |
| 23:30.34 | jsmith | Alric: Because you don't know about A4-sized paper and 2-hole binders. |
| 23:34.23 | Alric | Haven't seen 2-hole paper though. |
| 23:34.47 | DarkFlib | got loads here |
| 23:34.59 | Alric | well, I know the distinction, anyway. |