| 04:49.24 | blitzrage | jsmith: ! :) |
| 05:12.26 | jsmith | blitzrage! |
| 05:12.29 | jsmith | What's up? |
| 05:14.08 | blitzrage | SLIDES!!! |
| 05:14.10 | blitzrage | :) |
| 05:14.20 | blitzrage | I'm up to conditional branching |
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| 19:03.19 | Alric | Wow, this CentOS server is really hosed. |
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| 19:52.19 | jsmith | Alric: What happened to it? |
| 19:54.09 | Alric | The upgrade failed, and totally hosed the rpm database. |
| 19:54.14 | Alric | rpm --rebuilddb didn't help too much. |
| 19:54.58 | jsmith | What were you upgrading? |
| 19:55.32 | Alric | Everything? |
| 19:55.36 | Alric | 'yum update' |
| 19:57.03 | jsmith | Oh... |
| 19:57.17 | Alric | Errr. I know what that means :P |
| 19:57.30 | Alric | "Alric, you really screwed up this time. Why would you ever do that?!?" :) |
| 20:02.14 | jsmith | Hold on. |
| 20:02.55 | Alric | Take your time :) I have plenty of it today to fix this. |
| 20:02.55 | jsmith | Go to /var/lib/rpm |
| 20:02.57 | Alric | Or reinstall. |
| 20:03.18 | Alric | ok |
| 20:03.29 | jsmith | Delete all the files that start with 2 underscores + db + dot + a number |
| 20:03.58 | Alric | Done |
| 20:04.12 | jsmith | Now do something that would ordinarily give you an error |
| 20:04.17 | Alric | There were 3 of them. |
| 20:04.23 | jsmith | Yes |
| 20:04.33 | Alric | Well, thats part of the problem... |
| 20:04.36 | jsmith | .001, .002, and .003 |
| 20:04.44 | Alric | I can't get to anything that gives an error. |
| 20:04.56 | Alric | Wait, lets see |
| 20:05.07 | jsmith | rpm -e something, then "yum install something" back |
| 20:05.18 | jsmith | make it something benign, like "pico" |
| 20:05.31 | Alric | or joe |
| 20:05.36 | jsmith | Sure |
| 20:05.41 | jsmith | Oh, wait -- you use pico! |
| 20:05.41 | Alric | Got it |
| 20:05.53 | Alric | I use joe, and pico where joe isn't available! :) |
| 20:06.23 | jsmith | Well, it's a good thing not everyone is like me -- this world would be a crazy place if everyone was like me. |
| 20:06.26 | blitzrage | vim! |
| 20:06.31 | blitzrage | everything else sucks |
| 20:06.35 | blitzrage | :) |
| 20:06.37 | jsmith | Alric: See -- blitzrage is coming around... |
| 20:06.47 | blitzrage | jsmith: I've only EVER used vim :) |
| 20:06.54 | blitzrage | since day one |
| 20:07.49 | Alric | hrm |
| 20:08.20 | Alric | Well, everything looks good again... |
| 20:31.43 | jsmith | Alric: See -- that's an education money can't buy... |
| 20:35.25 | Alric | ... for everything else, there's Mastercard. |
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| 22:56.28 | jsmith | Fedora has for a while now... |
| 22:56.38 | jsmith | As does Ubuntu, I think. |
| 22:56.52 | jsmith | Just because Apple doesn't -- it doesn't mean nobody does. |
| 22:57.47 | Alric | What does this have to do with Apple? |
| 22:58.54 | jsmith | Do you understand the relationship between RHEL and Fedora? |
| 22:59.08 | jsmith | If so, you'd understand why CentOS doesn't have PHP5. |
| 23:02.08 | Alric | Fedora -> RHEL -> CentOS? |
| 23:02.16 | Alric | Fedora being the test dummy. |
| 23:02.32 | jsmith | Yes... Fedora is the testbed, with releases every 4 to 6 months. |
| 23:03.05 | jsmith | RHEL is the slow old reliable tank -- new releases every 18-24 months. Between releases, the only changes are related to bug-fixes. |
| 23:03.23 | jsmith | And CentOS is just a respin of RHEL, so it's the free slow old reliable tank. |
| 23:03.24 | Alric | Releases as in RHEL3 to RHEL4? |
| 23:03.31 | jsmith | Exactly. |
| 23:11.56 | Alric | Heh. Guy calls in wanting to create an account because his wife just left and the old acct was in her name. |
| 23:12.07 | Alric | Funny thing is, I just accepted payment for the wife's account last night from her... |
| 23:52.31 | Alric | Hrm. What are these BLFs people keep talking about in Asterisk? |
| 23:52.38 | Alric | Isn't BLF = SLA, which Asterisk doesn't do? |
| 23:55.13 | blitzrage | PHP5 doesn't come with CentOS because it isn't "stable" |
| 23:55.32 | blitzrage | Its too new |
| 23:55.38 | blitzrage | 4.x is "reliable" |
| 23:55.48 | blitzrage | PHP5 is untested -- thus its in FC |
| 23:56.02 | blitzrage | although I wish PHP5 was in CentOS -- would make my deployments much easier :) |
| 23:56.13 | Alric | CentOS5! |
| 23:56.52 | Alric | GUI |
| 23:57.58 | jsmith | blitzrage: I'm half-tempted to roll some PHP5 RPMs for CentOS 4.3 -- but I'm lazy |
| 23:58.42 | blitzrage | jsmith: I was considering that too |
| 23:59.04 | jsmith | Uh, funding? What's that? |
| 23:59.12 | Alric | Surely there's someone that wants that functionality, has the money, and is willing to fork it out :) |