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| 13:17.07 | blitzrage | jsmith-away: I'm alive now :) |
| 13:53.16 | jsmith | blitzrage: So am I... |
| 13:54.35 | blitzrage | weee! |
| 13:54.53 | blitzrage | suppose you've never used res_odbc? |
| 13:55.14 | blitzrage | I don't think it tries to reconnect if your DB server restarts |
| 13:56.58 | blitzrage | the problem with taking holidays, is you come back to 50+ emails and need to do something to deal with each one! |
| 14:01.56 | jsmith | Yup. |
| 14:02.14 | jsmith | Same thing happens when you spend a week at a customer's site doing training/consulting. |
| 14:13.51 | blitzrage | :D |
| 14:13.57 | blitzrage | oh joys upon joys! |
| 14:14.01 | blitzrage | going to make it to the dev call? |
| 14:14.22 | jsmith | Unfortunately, no. |
| 14:14.34 | jsmith | Gotta be on a different call with a paying client :-( |
| 14:16.18 | jsmith | Two questions for you -- |
| 14:16.45 | jsmith | I've already forgotten the first, but the second is this: Do you know if Steve has that cell terminal hooked up to PBX? |
| 14:19.30 | blitzrage | not 100% sure, but thought he did... |
| 14:24.28 | jsmith | OK. |
| 14:24.33 | jsmith | First question then: |
| 14:24.46 | jsmith | How hard would it be to create a redundant voicemail solution using DUNDi? |
| 14:25.02 | jsmith | Let's assume that Bob's extension is 302. |
| 14:25.35 | jsmith | If I make an extension 7302 that goes to his voicemail, and the standard macro calls that extension to send the caller to his voicemail, is there any reason why DUNDi can't handle that? |
| 14:25.39 | jsmith | Actually, there is. |
| 14:25.54 | jsmith | He might have VM messages on several different VM boxen. |
| 14:25.56 | jsmith | Shoot... |
| 14:30.12 | jsmith | Hmmmmn... I guess in the case the primary VM box goes down I could route all calls to one mailbox, with a message stating that "Voicemail is undergoing system maintenance. Your voicemail will be left in a general mailbox, so please specify the name of the person for whom you are leaving a message." |
| 14:35.13 | blitzrage | jsmith: !!! |
| 14:35.22 | blitzrage | I have been thinking about this as well |
| 14:35.36 | jsmith | Good. |
| 14:35.44 | blitzrage | however, what I want to do is use DUNDi simply to find teh VM server, so if you dial 8500, it goes to one certain VM box |
| 14:35.44 | jsmith | I need an answer yesterday... |
| 14:35.52 | blitzrage | now, for the redundency aspect |
| 14:35.56 | jsmith | OK... |
| 14:36.15 | jsmith | So step one is finding the voicemail server -- that should be simple. |
| 14:36.25 | blitzrage | I think (although not confirmed), that you may be able to do it by using res_odbc and placing the VM stuff into a DB, that way, you should be able to access the same VM information from multiple boxes |
| 14:36.37 | jsmith | Step two is what to do if the primary VM server gets hit by a bus |
| 14:36.43 | blitzrage | so you can build a cluster of VM boxen |
| 14:36.48 | jsmith | Sure, but then you're just moving the single point of failure to the database box. |
| 14:37.01 | blitzrage | unless you use Slon-y or something |
| 14:37.15 | jsmith | Will Slon-y do Master-Master replication? |
| 14:37.44 | jsmith | If so, problem solved. If not, it means the failover requires someone to physically promote the slave to a Master. |
| 14:37.59 | blitzrage | Slony-I, no -- but you can have a standby box that you can switch over to to act as a Master if the main one goes down (i.e. promotion) |
| 14:38.22 | blitzrage | exactly -- but you could do it automatically with a script which performs a lookup or something every few mins |
| 14:38.46 | jsmith | OK. |
| 14:38.47 | blitzrage | if it doesn't work, then the script drops the main Master, and promotes the primary slave to Master |
| 14:38.56 | jsmith | So make it work in the lab :-) |
| 14:39.22 | blitzrage | I'm already trying to build this functionality into Louie's boxes, but Slony isn't getting implemented until after I get the first phase done :) |
| 14:39.51 | jsmith | OK. |
| 14:40.11 | jsmith | If we get this deal w/ that clinic, we'll need it in a hurry... |
| 14:40.44 | blitzrage | eeeesh |
| 14:40.54 | jsmith | (I'm quoting a "when the primary vm box dies, vm goes to one central mailbox" approach, but I told them we could do redundant vm if necessary for additional cost0 |
| 14:40.57 | blitzrage | ok, well Louie needs it anyways, so you and me can spend time working on it |
| 14:41.05 | jsmith | You assume I have time. |
| 14:41.12 | blitzrage | you assume I also have time :) |
| 14:41.16 | jsmith | I'm up to my eyeballs in consulting... |
| 14:41.19 | blitzrage | same |
| 14:41.24 | blitzrage | we need more people :) |
| 14:41.29 | jsmith | I concur. |
| 14:41.40 | jsmith | Time to twist Steve's arm. |
| 14:41.59 | blitzrage | aye |
| 14:42.08 | blitzrage | I can't take on any more than I already have :D |
| 14:42.08 | jsmith | I have two friends who would love to work with us -- one isn't qualified, and the other is *sort of* qualified, but would get up to speed in a hurry. |
| 14:42.11 | blitzrage | and either can you |
| 14:42.37 | blitzrage | cool -- he'd be good to have support Louie's daily stuff while I work on bigger tasks |
| 14:46.36 | jsmith | Exactly. |
| 14:46.54 | jsmith | Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to convince Steve to hire us a lackey... |
| 14:47.46 | jsmith | blitzrage: One more quick thing... sanity check on my price quote. |
| 14:49.53 | blitzrage | what's a mission impossible? |
| 14:50.43 | blitzrage | good idea (lackey) |
| 14:50.44 | jsmith | Hardware on this project comes to around $25,000. I'm adding another $25,000 for labor, plus an extra $9000 for misc. parts. |
| 14:51.03 | blitzrage | just like a mechanic, labour is usually twice the cost of the hardware |
| 14:51.09 | blitzrage | so it seems sane to me |
| 14:51.31 | jsmith | Oh, plus reasonable travel expenses for the setup and deployment. |
| 14:51.43 | blitzrage | agreed |
| 15:13.14 | jsmith-away | blitzrage: Conf. call fell through... connection info for the developers conference? |
| 15:17.48 | blitzrage | jsmith: you found it already :) |
| 15:17.53 | jsmith | Yup... |
| 15:38.51 | jsmith | blitzrage: How do I turn off mute on my channel in the conf call? |
| 15:38.57 | blitzrage | *1 |
| 15:39.00 | blitzrage | same for re-muting |
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| 18:10.17 | jsmith | Alric! |
| 18:10.39 | Alric | jsmith! |
| 18:11.00 | Alric | My co-worker got a MacBook Pro! |
| 18:11.27 | Alric | So far, foiled! |
| 18:13.52 | jsmith | Alric: Why, when linux runs just fine on ppc hardware |
| 18:13.56 | Alric | :P |
| 18:22.30 | Alric | Good. |
| 18:22.38 | Alric | You can keep your Linux. |
| 18:22.49 | jsmith | I've tried really hard to use OS X -- really I have. I still hate it. |
| 18:23.12 | Alric | allegedly unusable! |
| 18:25.16 | jsmith | I guess I"m too much of a power user, but things just don't make sense. |
| 18:25.26 | jsmith | I have a hard time finding my way around. |
| 18:25.36 | jsmith | I don't like the way apps hang around even if all their windows have been closed. |
| 18:25.45 | jsmith | It's hung about 5 times on me now. |
| 18:27.31 | Alric | I have no idea. |
| 18:27.41 | Alric | I use a variety of apps all the time, and have never seen a hang. |
| 18:27.57 | Alric | I've got 7 open right now, and this is normal. |
| 18:30.32 | jsmith | Alric: Hey, something is wrong with the button under the trackpad -- any idea how hard it would be to take off the cover and clean it? |
| 18:34.18 | Alric | the mouse button? |
| 18:34.24 | jsmith | Yeah. |
| 18:34.28 | Alric | I have no idea. |
| 18:34.30 | Alric | Hold on |
| 18:34.40 | Alric | I have a website that shows a ton of things you can do to your Powerbook |
| 18:34.46 | Alric | Step by step instructions for disassembly, etc. |
| 18:34.51 | jsmith | Point me at it... |
| 18:35.11 | Alric | http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/54.0.0.html |
| 18:36.27 | Alric | Hrm. Looks like that button is built into the upper case. |
| 18:44.08 | jsmith | I think so... Thanks... |
| 19:17.05 | jsmith | What? |
| 19:17.17 | jsmith | Your not doing an "rpm -e kernel-source" |
| 19:17.18 | Alric | in the /usr/src directory, I just wiped out everything :) |
| 19:17.19 | jsmith | How evil! |
| 19:17.27 | Alric | No, I was removing asterisk and zaptel |
| 19:17.28 | jsmith | But why not do it the correct way? |
| 19:17.29 | Alric | to upgrade versions |
| 19:17.40 | jsmith | Oh, you said "kernel sources" |
| 19:17.43 | Alric | Yes, I know |
| 19:17.49 | Alric | Kernels happen to be in /usr/src :P |
| 19:18.18 | Alric | so when I did an rm -rf * in /usr/src, it took my kernel sources with it. |
| 19:18.44 | jsmith | Oh, I get it... |
| 19:19.22 | Alric | FAX development :) |
| 19:19.31 | Alric | *and* dimensioning testing. |
| 19:34.17 | Alric | err |
| 19:34.24 | Alric | whats the nt-command that resynvs zaptel? |
| 19:36.45 | Alric | ah, ztcfg |
| 19:38.33 | jsmith | What? You don't have that memorized? |
| 19:38.37 | Alric | Its been forever. |
| 19:38.43 | Alric | ZT_SPANCONFIG failed on span 1: Invalid argument (22) |
| 19:38.53 | Alric | Such lack of verbosity :( |
| 19:39.43 | jsmith | Well, it means you messed up -- what more do you need to know? |
| 19:40.11 | Alric | Like, where? |
| 19:40.17 | Alric | There is no obvious error in the zaptel.conf |
| 19:40.27 | jsmith | Pastebin? |
| 19:40.34 | Alric | Its the default zaptel.conf |
| 19:40.39 | Alric | With the first span line uncommented. |
| 19:41.06 | jsmith | Well, depending on what version you're running, the default could be different. |
| 19:41.14 | jsmith | Paste the relevant line in here then. |
| 19:41.24 | Alric | Its hard to tell which line it actually is. |
| 19:41.32 | Alric | span=1,1,0,esf,b8zs |
| 19:41.35 | Alric | But thats it... |
| 19:42.01 | jsmith | OK... |
| 19:42.07 | Alric | Exactly. |
| 19:42.13 | jsmith | What does zttool show? |
| 19:42.19 | jsmith | Can I ssh in a poke around? |
| 19:42.25 | Alric | hold on |
| 19:42.35 | Alric | put in a fresh zaptel.conf from the current version, just to be sure. |
| 19:43.14 | Alric | zttool didn't get installed. |
| 19:43.28 | jsmith | What, no newt-devel and newt installed? |
| 19:43.31 | Alric | right |
| 19:44.36 | Alric | zttool shows an unconfigured T100P |
| 19:45.55 | jsmith | Uh, you defined channels in zaptel.conf besides the span, right? |
| 19:46.59 | Alric | I had |
| 19:47.29 | Alric | same thing |
| 19:48.37 | Alric | whats the NMI mean under /proc/interrupts? |
| 19:48.50 | jsmith | Non-maskable Interrupts |
| 19:49.07 | Alric | Bad/ |
| 19:49.08 | Alric | ? |
| 19:50.03 | Alric | heh |
| 19:50.05 | Alric | this is nutty. |
| 19:55.30 | jsmith | Well, I think you don't have any channels defined in zaptel.conf |
| 19:55.30 | Alric | Yep |
| 19:55.31 | Alric | Worked. |
| 19:55.53 | Alric | Reboot fixed little ztcfg |
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