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| 14:14.29 | blitzrage | jsmith: ping |
| 14:18.11 | jsmith | Pong |
| 14:29.39 | blitzrage | hey! |
| 15:11.59 | blitzrage | jsmith: get lost? :) |
| 15:12.09 | blitzrage | must be busy with your emergency situation |
| 15:13.25 | jsmith | Yeah, I just finished up. |
| 15:13.31 | jsmith | They have an Asterisk system up and running |
| 15:13.38 | jsmith | And 10 phones, believe it or not |
| 15:13.38 | blitzrage | sweet! |
| 15:13.46 | blitzrage | I'm just about to setup an SVN repo locally on my laptop |
| 15:13.50 | jsmith | They can call customers -- customers can call them. |
| 15:14.02 | jsmith | I'll bet you want your SVN repo from my server, right? |
| 15:14.09 | blitzrage | well, I'm gonna build a new one here |
| 15:14.19 | jsmith | OK. |
| 15:14.32 | blitzrage | although at some point I'll probably want to "mirror" them so I can commit things locally, then send the changes over to the off-site repo too |
| 15:14.47 | blitzrage | that way I can commit stuff on my laptop when I have no network |
| 15:14.48 | jsmith | Yeah, we ought to figure out how to do that... |
| 15:15.05 | jsmith | Yup... talk Kevin into explaining his svn mirroring magic. |
| 15:16.20 | blitzrage | yah... but for now, I'm just gonna set it up locally and then grab the GUI and PBX stuff from MIX, load it up locally here, do some testing and feature adding. Gotta get that DUNDi stuff implemented, but I think building a loop like you said makes the most sense |
| 15:16.27 | blitzrage | would be really nice to have that 'm' option though :) |
| 15:18.19 | blitzrage | just sent mark and IM about it |
| 15:18.25 | blitzrage | s/and/an |
| 15:18.45 | jsmith | I did earlier today -- boy is he gonna feel the pressure! |
| 15:19.08 | blitzrage | jsmith: oh hey... I no longer have a Windows partition on my laptop (still one in VMware for Quickbooks), but I blew away the WinXP partition and integrated the space back into LVM |
| 15:19.13 | blitzrage | so I'm Linux only! |
| 15:19.21 | jsmith | Woo hoo! |
| 15:19.24 | blitzrage | I'm not running a desktop right now either |
| 15:19.25 | jsmith | I KNEW YOU COULD DO IT! |
| 15:19.26 | blitzrage | just the laptop |
| 15:19.40 | jsmith | Now I owe you two beers! |
| 16:18.19 | blitzrage | lol |
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| 16:19.27 | blitzrage | guh... no audio coming from my mic for some reason... |
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| 17:14.56 | blitzrage | Alric: welcome! |
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| 18:16.28 | blitzrage | jsmith: PING |
| 18:16.43 | jsmith | POOOONG! |
| 18:17.06 | Alric | PONG (dup!) |
| 18:17.26 | jsmith | Alien packets! |
| 18:17.32 | blitzrage | lol |
| 18:17.52 | jsmith | Martians, to be technically correct |
| 18:18.06 | jsmith | blitzrage: So, what are you pinging me about? |
| 18:18.07 | blitzrage | jsmith: any tips / apps I should use to console into my soekris using a network->serial cable? |
| 18:18.20 | jsmith | Yes. |
| 18:18.28 | blitzrage | never consoled from Linux before |
| 18:18.30 | jsmith | minicom -o |
| 18:18.39 | blitzrage | oh jeebuz... I've used minicom :) |
| 18:18.41 | blitzrage | stupid me :) |
| 18:18.55 | jsmith | CTRL-A -Z |
| 18:19.02 | jsmith | o |
| 18:19.07 | Alric | hehe |
| 18:19.09 | jsmith | serial port setup |
| 18:19.11 | Alric | I hate minicom |
| 18:19.13 | jsmith | A |
| 18:19.17 | jsmith | Change to ttyS0 |
| 18:19.24 | jsmith | (assuming you're using COM1) |
| 18:19.28 | jsmith | F |
| 18:19.36 | Alric | ... |
| 18:19.37 | blitzrage | the serial port is on the soekris, not the laptop |
| 18:19.39 | jsmith | Turn of hardware flow control, unless you know the Soekris wil handle it |
| 18:19.40 | blitzrage | does that matter? |
| 18:19.50 | jsmith | Oh, wait a minute... |
| 18:19.54 | blitzrage | network port on laptop |
| 18:19.57 | blitzrage | to serial port on soekris |
| 18:20.01 | jsmith | Can't do it. |
| 18:20.05 | blitzrage | really? |
| 18:20.08 | jsmith | Has to be serial to serial |
| 18:20.22 | blitzrage | hrmmmmmmm............. |
| 18:20.24 | jsmith | How in Canada do you plan on converting tcp/ip to RS232? |
| 18:20.45 | blitzrage | not tcp/ip -- just using my unused network port (I'm on wireless) |
| 18:20.53 | blitzrage | as a physical layer connection |
| 18:20.59 | blitzrage | and layer 2 |
| 18:21.24 | jsmith | blitzrage: Nope... try again. |
| 18:21.32 | blitzrage | stupid laptop with no serial port |
| 18:21.39 | blitzrage | I need to use one of those damn usb adapters |
| 18:21.41 | jsmith | blitzrage: If your lappy doesn't have a serial port, go buy yourself a USB-Serial adapter. |
| 18:21.49 | jsmith | And make sure it works under Linux. |
| 18:25.46 | blitzrage | darn |
| 18:26.58 | jsmith | C'mon, they're a handy thing to have, and they're not that expensive. |
| 18:27.28 | Alric | Then you can buy a Mac, because Macs rock, and the lack of serial is the only thing to give pause to a network minded person! :) |
| 18:28.15 | jsmith | "the only thing"? |
| 18:28.22 | jsmith | Whew... that's scary |
| 18:28.54 | jsmith | You'd think the lack of a native version of Etherea^H^H^HWireshark would give pause... |
| 18:29.13 | jsmith | Or, the lack of high-quality network drivers that work *well* at high traffic at gigabit speeds |
| 18:29.48 | jsmith | Eye candy does not make a network-minded box. |
| 18:29.53 | blitzrage | I'll just stick to my HP laptop and Linux thankyouverymuch |
| 18:29.58 | blitzrage | jsmith: yah, but then I have to leave the house :) |
| 18:30.04 | jsmith | Shoot -- ever wonder why nobody builds a network appliance based on the mac? |
| 18:30.12 | blitzrage | jsmith: not really :) |
| 18:30.23 | Alric | Eh. |
| 18:30.28 | Alric | I've never had network-related issues. |
| 18:33.06 | jsmith | Yeah, and you've never really done much network stuff on the PC either. |
| 18:33.47 | Alric | I've seen Macs at high network load. Didn't seem to have any problems. |
| 18:34.01 | Alric | I wasn't subjecting the thing to a microscope, though. |
| 18:34.25 | jsmith | What's your definition of "high network load"? |
| 18:34.43 | jsmith | Ever plugged a true gigabit connection into a Mac to see how Apache would hold up? |
| 18:35.14 | Alric | Simultaneous gigabyte file transfers to and from other Macs via a gigabit switch? |
| 18:35.47 | Alric | What do you mean by "true gigabit connection"? |
| 18:36.01 | jsmith | Well, file transfers aren't a good test -- they're maintaining a single connection. |
| 18:36.12 | jsmith | true gigabit *internet* connection. |
| 18:36.20 | jsmith | As in a gig pipe directly to the internet |
| 18:36.33 | jsmith | Apple couldn't keep up with the number of new connections, etc. |
| 18:36.34 | Alric | I don't even have anything like that. |
| 18:37.14 | Alric | Jury: We like pretty things because we have no mind of our own. Mac wins. |
| 18:38.24 | Alric | But when I start subjecting my personal Mac to gigabit internet Apache traffic... I'll let you know. |
| 18:38.44 | Alric | So far I've lived a perfectly fine life without such things :) |
| 18:39.40 | Alric | Were I recommending a server, my statements would likely be different. But as a personal computer, I'm staying right where I am. |
| 18:42.11 | blitzrage | lunch is overrated |
| 18:43.49 | jsmith | Alric: Oh yeah? I didn't know you were a DB guy |
| 18:44.15 | jsmith | Using OpenBase? MySQL? PostgreSQL? Oracle? MSSQL? DB2? Informix? Paradox? dBase III+? |
| 18:44.22 | Alric | Of all the parts of designing an intranet PHP/Apache/MySQL application, I like designing the Database the most. |
| 18:44.38 | jsmith | Alric: Are you enforcing foreign keys? |
| 18:44.40 | blitzrage | MySQL?! |
| 18:44.42 | blitzrage | phewy |
| 18:44.47 | blitzrage | pgSQL ownz |
| 18:44.54 | jsmith | Alric: Are you using stored procedures? |
| 18:44.56 | jsmith | Views? |
| 18:44.58 | jsmith | Triggers? |
| 18:45.02 | Alric | ffs. For once I was hoping to avoid a debate :P |
| 18:45.02 | jsmith | Transactions? |
| 18:45.10 | Alric | I don't even know what half that stuff is :) |
| 18:45.38 | Alric | I guess I'll go back to my Organizational Behavior text book then :P |
| 18:45.57 | blitzrage | just use active directory :) |
| 18:46.02 | jsmith | Alric: Go learn about two things: foreign keys and transactions. Once you know what they are, come back and I'll explain why MySQL is a database for sissies |
| 18:46.17 | blitzrage | darn... my soekris didn't get an IP address first try... guess I need to console into it to see what it doesn't like |
| 18:46.40 | blitzrage | I think my mic died on my laptop |
| 18:46.45 | blitzrage | errr... headset |
| 18:46.45 | Alric | heh |
| 18:47.04 | blitzrage | or I have something screwed up in my audio settings |
| 18:47.34 | blitzrage | idefisk isn't picking up the mic... |
| 18:47.36 | blitzrage | grrrrr |
| 18:47.41 | blitzrage | been working fine for weeks |
| 18:47.53 | Alric | Works fine on my Mac. |
| 18:48.37 | blitzrage | which means I'm gonna have to stand in the closet on my phone for the conference call in 12 mins :) |
| 18:49.04 | jsmith | blitzrage: Yeah.... that sucks. |
| 18:49.17 | Alric | Wonder if anyone made any progress on the bug I reported. |
| 18:49.35 | Alric | Nope :( |
| 18:49.37 | jsmith | Nope. |
| 18:49.43 | jsmith | If they had, you'd have been emailed. |
| 18:49.47 | jsmith | What's the bug number? |
| 18:49.51 | Alric | 7783 |
| 18:50.04 | Alric | Well, the email mantis has is one I don't have setup to check |
| 18:50.12 | Alric | Or forward anywhere. Its like a black hole email. |
| 18:50.36 | Alric | Stuff goes in, and every so often I 'rm -rf nbowyer' in /var/spool/mail ... |
| 18:51.17 | jsmith | Try again with 1.2.11 -- they fixed some vm stuff |
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| 18:54.00 | Alric | Corydon said it would be very hard to track down, that it had to do with memory corruption somewhere. |
| 18:54.18 | jsmith | 64-bit? |
| 18:54.22 | Alric | No |
| 18:59.09 | blitzrage | anyone know how to "invite" someone into an IRC chat window? |
| 18:59.27 | Alric | It only works on DCC chat, which is between two people. |
| 18:59.31 | blitzrage | right |
| 18:59.35 | Alric | Wait, sorry. |
| 18:59.35 | blitzrage | and how do you do that? |
| 18:59.44 | Alric | Uhh, depends on their client. |
| 18:59.49 | Alric | depends on yours, even. |
| 18:59.50 | Alric | What client? |
| 18:59.58 | blitzrage | there's gotta be a standard IRC command |
| 19:00.01 | blitzrage | like /invite |
| 19:00.03 | Alric | I imagine there is. |
| 19:00.08 | Alric | I don't know it though :) |
| 19:00.13 | Alric | Wait |
| 19:00.35 | Alric | Not working for me. |
| 19:03.05 | blitzrage | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:03.31 | Alric | That doesn't work for me, for whatever reason. |
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| 19:16.46 | Alric | wb |
| 19:17.03 | jsmith | Thanks... |
| 19:17.12 | jsmith | Stupid apple anyway |
| 19:18.10 | Alric | Wha?!? |
| 19:18.12 | Alric | Stupid Apple?!? |
| 19:19.29 | jsmith-lunch | Yeah... can't keep any kind of dialup connection more than 8 hours. |
| 19:19.36 | Alric | Thats odd. |
| 19:19.48 | Alric | Tried surfing the support forums? |
| 19:19.50 | blitzrage | probably automatically cuts off |
| 19:19.53 | jsmith-lunch | Whether it's really dialup, or bluetooth connection through my cell phone, or EVDO card in the PCMCIA slot |
| 19:19.56 | blitzrage | jsmith-lunch: still on dialup?! |
| 19:20.13 | jsmith-lunch | Alric: Yeah, right -- have you actually tried their forums? Forums are for bottom-feeders |
| 19:20.23 | Alric | Yeah, I did try them :) |
| 19:20.29 | jsmith-lunch | blitzrage: Technically, yes -- I'm dialing up to EVDO over the cell network |
| 19:20.45 | blitzrage | ewwww |
| 19:20.48 | jsmith-lunch | I'd rather have a root canal |
| 19:21.05 | blitzrage | my buddy just had one... I doubt it :) |
| 19:21.06 | jsmith-lunch | blitzrage: Actually, it works *really really* well... |
| 19:21.14 | blitzrage | well that's handy then |
| 19:21.32 | jsmith-lunch | blitzrage: Almost DSL speeds, anywhere I go. (And since I can't get DSL here, it's a godsend) |
| 19:21.32 | Alric | Cool |
| 19:21.54 | jsmith-lunch | I don't get a static IP, and the latency is a little high, but it's very usable. |
| 19:22.04 | blitzrage | well better than a kick in the teeth |
| 19:22.25 | jsmith-lunch | Speaking of teeth -- I think I'll go get my teeth dirty eating some lunch -- I'm starving! |
| 19:24.50 | blitzrage | do it! |
| 21:36.10 | blitzrage | jsmith: ping |
| 21:36.38 | Alric | blitzrage: PONG (dupe!) |
| 21:37.03 | blitzrage | that would imply an original pong :) |
| 21:37.15 | Alric | He's lagging. Mine got there first. |
| 21:37.19 | blitzrage | oh I see |
| 21:37.35 | jsmith | I'm here. |
| 21:37.38 | jsmith | I'm here... |
| 21:37.40 | jsmith | What's up? |
| 21:37.48 | Alric | See? About 60 seconds lagged ;) |
| 21:38.07 | blitzrage | hey, I got console access to the soekris via my room mates laptop... but I get strange characters (unreadable) any ideas? Using 19200 8-N-1 |
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| 21:40.00 | blitzrage | wb! |
| 21:40.09 | blitzrage | hey, I got console access to the soekris via my room mates laptop... but I get strange characters (unreadable) any ideas? Using 19200 8-N-1 |
| 21:40.22 | jsmith_ | Try using 9600 baud instead |
| 21:40.24 | jsmith_ | most things don't like 192. |
| 21:40.27 | jsmith_ | 19.2, that is |
| 21:40.35 | blitzrage | oh ok, lets give that a shot |
| 21:40.53 | jsmith_ | Did you turn off hardware flow control? |
| 21:41.00 | blitzrage | yeppers |
| 21:41.12 | blitzrage | didn't work at all with that on :) |
| 21:41.25 | jsmith_ | Alric: Don't talk to me about tar and feathers -- my ancestors know more about being tarred and feathered than anyone you know |
| 21:41.36 | blitzrage | jsmith_: that was it! |
| 21:41.40 | blitzrage | jsmith_: what DON'T you know :) |
| 21:41.40 | Alric | woot |
| 21:42.04 | jsmith_ | blitzrage: I don't know how I'm ever gonna stay sane. |
| 21:42.16 | Alric | With people like us around... |
| 21:42.28 | blitzrage | stay sane? |
| 21:42.37 | jsmith_ | No, with people (in general) around |
| 21:42.40 | blitzrage | ah |
| 21:42.43 | jsmith_ | Yeah. |
| 21:42.50 | blitzrage | get rid of Alric and you'll be fine :) |
| 21:42.51 | jsmith_ | I'm sane, as long as I'm not around people... |
| 21:43.18 | jsmith_ | Let's just say I had to spend my lunch break mowing weeds over 5' tall just to keep from exploding. |
| 21:43.25 | blitzrage | oh no! |
| 21:43.28 | blitzrage | who's to blame? |
| 21:43.36 | jsmith_ | People are to blame... |
| 21:43.37 | blitzrage | what kind of people? |
| 21:43.43 | jsmith_ | Ordinary people |
| 21:43.45 | blitzrage | people in your area, or people on the phone? |
| 21:43.53 | jsmith_ | People on the phone. |
| 21:44.17 | blitzrage | ah I see |
| 21:44.24 | Alric | I hate people on the phone. |
| 21:44.33 | Alric | Jared, I have this Wall Street Journal article just for you. |
| 21:44.55 | Alric | It talks about how customer service and other people that deal with people on the phone get so emotionally drained during the day that they're practically zombies when they get home. |
| 21:45.01 | blitzrage | doh... now I just get a lot of **************************'s across the screen |
| 21:45.05 | Alric | Totally alienated from their families and everything! |
| 21:45.11 | blitzrage | Alric: I could see that |
| 21:45.21 | blitzrage | last thing you want to do when you get home is "be on" |
| 21:45.26 | blitzrage | entertaining, etc... |
| 21:45.27 | Alric | Its in the WSJ. Must be true. |
| 21:45.29 | blitzrage | just wanna sit and not think |
| 21:45.31 | blitzrage | lol |
| 21:45.33 | blitzrage | must be |
| 21:48.50 | jsmith_ | Ah... that phone call was better. |
| 21:49.06 | jsmith_ | Just a client calling to thank me for putting their backsides out of a scorching fire |
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| 21:50.00 | jsmith | Ah, I'm me again! |
| 21:50.36 | jsmith | Time to rebuild my server from the ashes! |
| 21:54.14 | blitzrage | good call |
| 21:54.28 | blitzrage | jsmith: w00t |
| 21:55.35 | jsmith | 148 revisions in your mix svn repo, eh? |
| 21:56.20 | jsmith | Would you like the output of "svnadmin dump"? |
| 21:56.27 | jsmith | Or can you wait until it's back online |
| 21:58.00 | blitzrage | I can wait |
| 21:58.09 | blitzrage | don't waste time with that |
| 21:58.15 | blitzrage | yah.. i have quite a few revisions in there |
| 21:59.57 | jsmith | OK... just making sure. |
| 22:04.16 | jsmith | Oh, and for what it's worth -- people with fat fingers shouldn't be allowed to dial phones |
| 22:04.32 | blitzrage | lol |
| 22:17.09 | jsmith | Well, let's hope my backup is good... |