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| 14:38.10 | ctooley | morning folks |
| 14:49.30 | jsmith | Morning ctooley! |
| 14:49.33 | jsmith | How's it going? |
| 14:58.52 | ctooley | blech |
| 14:58.56 | ctooley | and you? |
| 14:59.33 | jsmith | Super busy, but doing quite well |
| 14:59.38 | jsmith | Not enjoying the new gig? |
| 15:00.04 | ctooley | Yeah, enjoying it, not enjoying the lack of knowledge of stuff |
| 15:01.05 | ctooley | You know where I can find this "CHANNEL" function that I am reading about in the wiki? I need to know the Hangup status of a channel |
| 15:01.38 | ctooley | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+func+channel |
| 15:01.57 | ctooley | That seems to do what I want it to. "${CHANNEL(status)} |
| 15:02.12 | jsmith | exten => 123,n,Verbose(2,${CHANNEL(status)} |
| 15:02.13 | ctooley | eer :%s/status/state/g |
| 15:02.14 | jsmith | That should do it. |
| 15:02.26 | jsmith | Yeah, state. |
| 15:02.30 | jsmith | We both think alike |
| 15:02.41 | ctooley | yeah, but "show functions" on the CLI doesn't seem to think I have a function named CHANNEL |
| 15:02.47 | ctooley | hence why I'm curious |
| 15:02.57 | jsmith | What version? |
| 15:03.02 | jsmith | I think it new to 1.4 |
| 15:03.09 | ctooley | ugh |
| 15:03.09 | ctooley | ok |
| 15:03.17 | ctooley | Any idea how to get the same result out of 1.2? |
| 15:04.31 | jsmith | SIP channels? |
| 15:04.34 | jsmith | IAX channels? |
| 15:04.46 | ctooley | They're all SIP |
| 15:04.51 | ctooley | which is helpful |
| 15:05.00 | ctooley | but I don't see a "state" in SIPCHANINFO either |
| 15:05.01 | jsmith | SIPCHANINFO() might have it |
| 15:05.07 | jsmith | Yeah... looks like it doesn't |
| 15:05.47 | ctooley | :) See, I don't feel like a complete moron now |
| 15:07.01 | jsmith | Hmmmn... I can't think of a good way to do it on 1.2 |
| 15:07.06 | jsmith | Shouldn't be too hard to patch |
| 15:07.13 | ctooley | yay |
| 15:07.16 | ctooley | another patch |
| 15:07.22 | jsmith | patch SIPCHANINFO |
| 15:07.25 | ctooley | as if my build of 1.2.14 wasn't patched up enough already |
| 15:07.32 | jsmith | I can probably look at it this afternoon, if you want me to |
| 15:07.40 | ctooley | nah, it's fine. I'll figure it out. |
| 15:07.48 | ctooley | thank you though |
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| 16:26.22 | blitzrage | jsmith: can I ask you a stupid PHP question? |
| 16:28.20 | blitzrage | oh duh... $_POST[ ] |
| 17:47.30 | jsmith | blitzrage: No, because you're too quick on the draw. |
| 17:48.16 | blitzrage | heh :) |
| 18:24.15 | Alric-Ofce | Okay, audio problem day. |
| 18:24.36 | Alric-Ofce | Objective: Track down and blame the proper party for this one way audio issue in 1.4 :) |
| 18:25.19 | Alric-Ofce | Who's with me?! |
| 18:25.33 | jsmith | Gotta do some DCap tests first |
| 18:25.44 | Alric-Ofce | Frack. |
| 18:25.53 | Alric-Ofce | Looks like my laptop screen finally flaked. |
| 18:26.23 | Alric-Ofce | Dangit. |
| 18:27.24 | Alric-Ofce | Time to buy a new one, I guess :/ |
| 18:27.27 | ctooley | Alric-Ofce, what's the issue? |
| 18:27.34 | Alric-Ofce | The 1.4 audio issue? |
| 18:27.37 | ctooley | (with the one way audio that is) |
| 18:27.41 | Alric-Ofce | Okay. |
| 18:27.51 | ctooley | Or more specifically, what's the scenario in which it occurs |
| 18:27.52 | Alric-Ofce | I have a 1.2.x machine connected to a Metaswitch via SIP. |
| 18:28.02 | Alric-Ofce | The metaswitch calls it a SIP Binding. |
| 18:28.25 | Alric-Ofce | But anyway. Thats where all my "trunks" come from. |
| 18:28.32 | ctooley | ok |
| 18:28.36 | Alric-Ofce | Said machine has 2 interfaces. 1 public and 1 private. |
| 18:28.49 | Alric-Ofce | Polycom VoIP phones are on the private side, metaswitch is on the public. |
| 18:29.07 | Alric-Ofce | Using 1.2.x (forget exactly which, I think .8), audio works fine. |
| 18:29.23 | Alric-Ofce | On 1.4.0, if I call someone outbound, it works. If someone calls inbound to me, I cannot hear them. |
| 18:29.35 | Alric-Ofce | Happens on 100% of calls. |
| 18:30.28 | ctooley | hmm the SIP traffic isn't properly being nat'd for calls originated on metaswitch. Do you have low enough call volume that you could do a sip debug of a single call? |
| 18:30.43 | Alric-Ofce | Yeah. |
| 18:31.02 | Alric-Ofce | My call volume is like 10 calls a day on a busy day :) |
| 18:31.27 | ctooley | (also, do you have the Metaswitch softswitch or is that what some provider is running) |
| 18:31.44 | ctooley | Ok, can you turn on debug and do a call so we can get a trace. I'd like to see the call flow |
| 18:32.01 | Alric-Ofce | Give me a few minutes. |
| 18:32.19 | ctooley | also, do you know how to use tcpdump well enough to create a dump file of the actual traffic? |
| 18:32.33 | Alric-Ofce | Had to downgrade so things actually worked. Sucks when clients call their PBX vendor and get... a PBX that doesn't work. |
| 18:32.48 | Alric-Ofce | I think so. I usually use ethereal |
| 18:33.05 | ctooley | tcpdump -nvvv src or dst METASWITCH_IP > capture_file.pcap |
| 18:33.25 | ctooley | brb gotta check the rice cooker |
| 18:36.12 | blitzrage | I don't get the point of rice cookers... |
| 18:36.25 | Alric-Ofce | Cook rice? |
| 18:36.40 | Alric-Ofce | Seems simple enough :) |
| 18:37.31 | blitzrage | yah..... but why a whole appliance just to cook rice. My pots seem to do a fine job. |
| 18:37.33 | ctooley | blitzrage, sort of like a coffee pot. I can brew coffee the old fashioned way, but if I put it in the rice cooker with some veggies in the steamer tray, it cooks and when I remember to go get it, it's on warm and done. |
| 18:37.52 | ctooley | uhhhh |
| 18:37.57 | ctooley | I missed some of that sentenc |
| 18:37.58 | ctooley | :) |
| 18:38.02 | blitzrage | lol |
| 18:38.03 | ctooley | lemme try again |
| 18:38.36 | ctooley | I can brew coffee the old fashioned way, but I don't have to. I can cook rice the old fashioned way, but if I put it in the rice cooker with some veggies in the steamer tray, it cooks and when I remember to go get it, it's on warm and done. |
| 18:38.38 | ctooley | there |
| 18:38.40 | ctooley | much better |
| 18:39.00 | ctooley | It's a "set it and forget it" kind of thing. :) |
| 18:40.27 | ctooley | Alric-Ofce, I am tempted to have you use a trunk group of mine to see if the problem is the way the Metaswitch is setting up the calls or if it's actually an asterisk problem. Would hate to chase a rabbit for no reason. |
| 18:40.55 | Alric-Ofce | You have a Metaswitch? :) |
| 18:40.59 | ctooley | However, if you have to use the Metaswitch as your endpoint, you're likely going to need to just make asterisk work either way. |
| 18:41.00 | Alric-Ofce | Oh. |
| 18:41.01 | Alric-Ofce | Nevermind/ |
| 18:41.17 | ctooley | No, we run a Veraz network. |
| 18:41.24 | Alric-Ofce | Reading comprehension... :) |
| 18:41.35 | ctooley | But, our SBC's are AcmePacket |
| 18:41.45 | ctooley | and a few nCite' |
| 18:42.32 | ctooley | I am interested in your problem though because we have a lot of Asterisk boxes and I certainly don't need any 1 way audio problems on top of our volume issue.s |
| 18:42.58 | blitzrage | ctooley: actually your whole sentence came through the first time |
| 18:45.15 | blitzrage | ctooley: ahhh... see... I work and live in the living room which is open concept with the kitchen... so I can't really forget about it :) |
| 18:45.36 | Alric-Ofce | Wow, this is weird. |
| 18:45.59 | Alric-Ofce | I've got another PBX connected via PRI. I called it from my local machine here. Once. The PRI PBX says it received 8 calls from me :) |
| 18:46.12 | ctooley | Alric-Ofce, that's not so cool |
| 18:46.22 | Alric-Ofce | Its an old FC3 box though. |
| 18:46.41 | Alric-Ofce | Its not so cool. |
| 18:46.48 | Alric-Ofce | Anyway. Onward with the audio troubles... |
| 18:47.12 | Alric-Ofce | Hmmm. |
| 18:47.24 | Alric-Ofce | The Metaswitch's control traffic and rtp traffic go to different places. |
| 18:47.28 | Alric-Ofce | Won't that tcpdump miss that? |
| 18:48.07 | ctooley | we only really care about the signalling traffic for now |
| 18:48.47 | Alric-Ofce | Hmm. Its now a no audio call. |
| 18:48.54 | ctooley | I'm guessing that the traffic your box is responding with on inbound calls isn't using the proper "To:" field |
| 18:49.09 | ctooley | I'm not really all that shocked by that either. |
| 18:49.24 | Alric-Ofce | Well, it used to be 100% one way. Now its no way. |
| 18:49.34 | Alric-Ofce | Usually things don't degrade like that... |
| 18:49.38 | Alric-Ofce | Right? :) |
| 18:50.07 | Alric-Ofce | Well, I have that file. |
| 18:50.08 | ctooley | not usually |
| 18:50.13 | ctooley | ctooley@gmail.com |
| 18:50.15 | Alric-Ofce | Doesn't look too useful to me, but... |
| 18:50.26 | ctooley | you have the pcap file or sip debug log? |
| 18:50.38 | Alric-Ofce | pcap |
| 18:50.58 | Alric-Ofce | Lemme grab a debug/sip debug/rtp debug... |
| 18:51.15 | ctooley | we just need sip signalling for now. |
| 18:51.34 | Alric-Ofce | ok |
| 18:52.36 | Alric-Ofce | Sent the pcap |
| 18:52.58 | blitzrage | Alric-Ofce: might be relevant -- http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=8806 |
| 18:53.45 | ctooley | that pcap file should load into ethereal so you can read it easier |
| 18:55.11 | Alric-Ofce | With console debug too, for your viewing pleasure. |
| 18:55.47 | Alric-Ofce | Very strange. |
| 19:00.19 | ctooley | ok, that pcap file didn't record right. I think I missed an option. :) |
| 19:00.33 | ctooley | did you email the sip debug output? |
| 19:00.37 | Alric-Ofce | no |
| 19:00.38 | Alric-Ofce | not yet. |
| 19:00.43 | Alric-Ofce | Was looking over it |
| 19:01.03 | ctooley | oh |
| 19:01.04 | ctooley | ok |
| 19:01.54 | Alric-Ofce | Sent |
| 19:03.00 | Alric-Ofce | Yay |
| 19:05.02 | blitzrage | is there a way to check with SVN if in your checked out repo there are files that are not in the repo? |
| 19:05.53 | blitzrage | i.e. I "touch somefile.inc" and forget to 'svn add' it in, and want to check if there are any files I've forgotten to add |
| 19:06.21 | ctooley | <--- Transmitting (no NAT) to 64.6.32.130:5060 ---> |
| 19:06.21 | ctooley | SIP/2.0 404 Not Found |
| 19:06.26 | ctooley | generally not a good thing |
| 19:06.54 | Juggie | blitzrage, you could do a checkout and compare directories. |
| 19:07.08 | Juggie | but there might be an easier way |
| 19:07.14 | Juggie | i dont really know svn. |
| 19:07.19 | ctooley | blitzrage, "svn status" |
| 19:08.17 | ctooley | blitzrage, "svn status" is recursive too... you can run it at the top of your checkout and it'll find em all |
| 19:08.41 | blitzrage | aha |
| 19:08.43 | blitzrage | perfect, thx |
| 19:09.15 | blitzrage | yep, that's the one |
| 19:09.46 | ctooley | yep |
| 19:09.47 | ctooley | :) |
| 19:10.47 | blitzrage | not looking forward to the day where I have to go through all my Verbose() messages and add an ${IF()} wrapper around them all |
| 19:10.47 | Alric-Ofce | Hmm. |
| 19:10.52 | Alric-Ofce | It can see that IP... |
| 19:10.56 | blitzrage | actually... I guess I could use a GoSub for that.... |
| 19:11.22 | blitzrage | GoSub(verbose,s,1("My literal string I want to show up")) |
| 19:11.57 | blitzrage | then I can wrap the text there, and control output for only when a particular peer, or something is calling |
| 19:12.19 | blitzrage | because on a busy system, verbosity at the CLI is useless |
| 19:12.34 | blitzrage | I'm full of all sorts of useful ideas :) |
| 19:13.59 | ctooley | Alric-Ofce, are you sure that these RTP bridges are getting NAT'd because Got RTP packet from 10.10.15.195:2246 (type 00, seq 002498, ts 350081712, len 000160) looks like an audio packet coming from somewhere that the remote endpoint isn't going to accept audio from. |
| 19:14.28 | ctooley | ie. I think this may well be a bug and not a misconfiguration |
| 19:14.46 | Alric-Ofce | Well... |
| 19:15.17 | Alric-Ofce | There's not any nat involved really. canreinvite is off... |
| 19:15.43 | ctooley | uhhh |
| 19:16.00 | ctooley | isn't that sip phone nat'd? |
| 19:16.18 | ctooley | because 10.10.15.195 isn't a valid routable IP on most internet networks |
| 19:16.35 | Alric-Ofce | Well, it is NATed |
| 19:16.44 | Alric-Ofce | But the audio is getting piped through the PBX |
| 19:18.34 | ctooley | Asterisk 1.4 doesn't pass RTP through asterisk core in 1.4 for bridged calls. They get "hooked up" directly. |
| 19:19.10 | Alric-Ofce | So what does canreinvite=no do in 1.4? |
| 19:19.33 | ctooley | The audio still flows through asterisk threads. "Asterisk" still handles it. |
| 19:19.44 | ctooley | But it doesn't go through all the logic of "core" anymore |
| 19:20.01 | ctooley | so... there might have been a use case for nat'ing that didn't get fixed. |
| 19:20.14 | ctooley | I'm just not sure in that scenario |
| 19:26.17 | jsmith | There was a fix that went into the 1.4 branch for some NAT situations |
| 19:26.25 | jsmith | Alric-Ofce: You should try with the latest 1.4 branch from SVN |
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| 20:18.09 | blitzrage | w00t... another feature done via the DP |
| 20:24.33 | jsmith | w00t! |
| 20:30.51 | blitzrage | getting better at making a telephone voice :) |
| 20:30.56 | blitzrage | for prompts and such |
| 20:36.18 | jsmith | blitzrage: You need to find a girlfriend with a nice voice |
| 20:36.55 | Alric-Ofce | hehe |
| 20:37.03 | Alric-Ofce | Thats what I did... |
| 20:37.17 | blitzrage | meh |
| 20:37.20 | jsmith | Alric-Ofce: How's your g/f doing, anyway? |
| 20:37.26 | jsmith | Alric-Ofce: She still likes you, I take it |
| 20:37.37 | Alric-Ofce | Yep |
| 20:37.43 | blitzrage | nobody "likes" Alric-Ofce, they just tolerate him :) |
| 20:40.44 | blitzrage | grrrr... I seemed to have forgotten to check in my prompts for wakeup call to SVN... |
| 20:45.59 | blitzrage | don't you hate when you freak yourself out thinking that you lost some code you wrong? |
| 20:46.04 | blitzrage | s/wrong/wrote |
| 20:53.11 | ctooley | Almost as much as finding out that I actually _did_ lose it. |
| 20:53.41 | ctooley | It's when I'm kicking myself that I regret wearing boots all the time. |
| 20:54.00 | blitzrage | totally |
| 20:54.59 | blitzrage | the worst thing I ever did was work on a production GUI system with no backup in EditPlus, which decided to totally destroy the data (delete it). I then hopped on IRC and got some advice from some people and was able to recover about 98% of it |
| 20:55.10 | blitzrage | that was gonna be a really really bad day... |
| 20:55.19 | blitzrage | but ended up turning out ok :) |
| 21:00.13 | Alric-Ofce | svn instructions are gone from the website :( |
| 21:00.47 | jsmith | From what website? |
| 21:00.56 | jsmith | cd /usr/local/src |
| 21:01.05 | jsmith | svn co http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/branches/1.4 asterisk-1.4 |
| 21:01.11 | jsmith | Those SVN instructions? |
| 21:09.56 | Alric-Ofce | Yeah... |
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| 21:28.14 | CodeX | hi all |
| 21:36.31 | Alric-Ofce | Hello! |
| 21:45.12 | jsmith | Hello CodeX |
| 21:45.52 | CodeX | Hello |
| 21:53.30 | ctooley | asterisk was just _not_ designed to handle this kind of call volume |
| 21:53.47 | ctooley | at least not the 1.2 SIP channel driver |
| 21:55.10 | Alric-Ofce | What kind of call volume? |
| 21:55.25 | ctooley | between 250 and 450 bridges per server |
| 21:55.48 | Alric-Ofce | Okay, 1.4 svn doesn't fix the problem. |
| 21:56.03 | ctooley | but we're growing so fast. 2 weeks ago I had a total volume of about 1000 bridges. Last weekend was 2200. This weekend they're telling me 3500 |
| 21:56.20 | Alric-Ofce | Thats pretty fast... |
| 21:56.32 | Alric-Ofce | Guess you have the funds to order another couple servers then? :) |
| 21:58.03 | blitzrage | ctooley: yah..... then you start getting into the clustering thing |
| 21:58.22 | blitzrage | which I've been banging on for a few months now... getting close to testing phase... |
| 21:59.16 | Alric-Ofce | throw SER into the mix? |
| 21:59.22 | ctooley | The problem isn't the funding or desire for servers, it's the lead time from order placement to server in cabinet. Plus I have to have the electricity to power them |
| 21:59.31 | ctooley | blitzrage, we don't need cluster |
| 22:00.00 | blitzrage | really? seems like a lot of calls for one box :) |
| 22:00.02 | Alric-Ofce | Well... |
| 22:00.05 | ctooley | We have a very large cluster of Veraz ICE servers that handle the load balancing. It's just that for warning times and call limits, asterisk can't get out of the RTP stream |
| 22:00.15 | blitzrage | gotcha |
| 22:00.36 | ctooley | we've got the largest Veraz installation in North America. |
| 22:00.55 | ctooley | :) So, load balancing isn't my problem. My problem is getting boxes to put into the network. |
| 22:01.16 | Alric-Ofce | Seems like a good problem to have. |
| 22:01.36 | Alric-Ofce | I mean, of all the problems you could be having. |
| 22:02.08 | ctooley | Unless your problem all comes from one customer that gets upset and pulls the plug a few hundred grand worth of equipment into the deal |
| 22:02.16 | Alric-Ofce | All of that traffic is from one customer? |
| 22:03.03 | ctooley | yup. about 4 million minutes a day |
| 22:03.44 | Alric-Ofce | Perhaps take a tip from the stock market... diversify? :) |
| 22:04.02 | ctooley | Which, fortunately, isn't difficult for our network to handle, but the types of calls that this customer is doing are killing this one product. |
| 22:04.12 | Alric-Ofce | Or keep buying servers, I guess. |
| 22:04.29 | ctooley | Oh, we push 50 million minutes a day through our system |
| 22:04.36 | ctooley | it's just one product that we only have this one customer on. |
| 22:06.01 | ctooley | This is by far the biggest product I've ever worked on with Asterisk. |
| 22:06.07 | Alric-Ofce | Hmm |
| 22:06.09 | Alric-Ofce | Well... |
| 22:07.00 | Alric-Ofce | YOu have virtually two options, right? Buy more servers or don't. But don't assuredly means the customer goes away, right? Do, they might, but they might not. Or tell them this isn't going to work out. |
| 22:07.05 | ctooley | That's why I was saying I was going to give you a trunk group to test on earlier. Our network might "just work" for you. If it did, you'd have a comparison |
| 22:07.33 | ctooley | Nah, I'll make it work. We've got 15 more boxes expected over the next 2 weeks. |
| 22:07.45 | ctooley | I'm just grumpy |
| 22:07.55 | Alric-Ofce | Oh. Join jsmith over in that corner then... |
| 22:08.55 | blitzrage | and me |
| 22:09.02 | Alric-Ofce | Fine fine. |
| 22:09.09 | Alric-Ofce | I'll be the ray of sunshine for this channel then. |
| 22:09.21 | ctooley | :) Grumpy people work best when grumpy |
| 22:09.25 | blitzrage | oh god, we're d00med |
| 22:09.59 | Alric-Ofce | Wasn't it 15? Or was it 6? |
| 22:10.01 | blitzrage | 16th |
| 22:10.05 | Alric-Ofce | Even better. |
| 22:10.22 | blitzrage | time to start laundry so I have something to wear out tonight |
| 22:10.48 | Alric-Ofce | Almost as much as I like getting checks. |
| 22:13.10 | ctooley | checks... quoting... MAN! I forgot to give the CPA an invoice. Ugh. Consulting is such a pain. |
| 22:14.15 | blitzrage | ctooley: me too! |
| 22:20.58 | Alric-Ofce | So you think I should post a bug of this issue? |
| 22:21.45 | ctooley | I think you should try the mailing list first, but maybe |
| 22:21.47 | ctooley | I gotta go. |
| 22:21.53 | ctooley | Time to go see the kids. |
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| 22:26.02 | blitzrage | sounds like it's Friday and everyone is taking off :) |
| 22:26.07 | blitzrage | I think I might do the same.... |
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