| 00:30.50 | blitzrage | no idea..... |
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| 15:44.52 | blitzrage | morning jsmith |
| 15:45.51 | jsmith | igualmente |
| 15:47.26 | blitzrage | salutations |
| 15:48.25 | blitzrage | ouch... I must have bit down on the inside of my cheek yesterday, or while I was sleeping, because there is just this one small spot that is killing me |
| 15:56.06 | jsmith | Right side or left? |
| 15:56.52 | blitzrage | right side |
| 16:34.08 | blitzrage | jsmith: do you think the 7970 would support the image application for sending background images? |
| 16:41.49 | jsmith | Nope, I don't think so. |
| 16:41.56 | jsmith | I don't think it can get a background image via SIP |
| 16:42.05 | jsmith | Only via the configs, as I understand it. |
| 16:42.17 | jsmith | You might be able to do something with the microbrowser, but I'm not really sure. |
| 16:42.42 | jsmith | (i.e. have the microbrowser get a new background image every X seconds, etc.) |
| 16:42.47 | jsmith | But I'm just guessing at this point. |
| 16:43.29 | blitzrage | oh ok, was just wondering, but I imagine you're right |
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| 18:49.13 | Alric-Ofce | Ugh. |
| 18:49.19 | Alric-Ofce | Hate it when company CEOs call me. |
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| 19:32.07 | jsmith | Alric-Ofce: What for? |
| 19:33.20 | jsmith | CPC? |
| 19:34.37 | Alric-Ofce | CPC disconnect? |
| 19:34.40 | Alric-Ofce | Calling Party Control? |
| 19:39.24 | Alric-Ofce | It was described to me as a tone reversal or something to signal disconnect from the calling entity to the called thing (in this case, a Viking CPA-7B) |
| 19:39.44 | blitzrage | jsmith: no idea |
| 19:40.56 | jsmith | Are you talking about far-end disconnect supervision? |
| 19:41.10 | jsmith | Where there's an open on the line to let you know the other end has hung up? |
| 19:43.03 | Alric-Ofce | Yeah, I think. |
| 19:44.00 | Alric-Ofce | http://www.vikingtelecomsolutions.com/catalog/model_CPC-1.htm |
| 19:52.30 | jsmith | Yuck. |
| 19:52.49 | jsmith | Looks like "progress detection" in zapata, only in hardware |
| 19:52.59 | Alric-Ofce | Yeah. |
| 19:53.01 | jsmith | Yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck |
| 19:53.07 | Alric-Ofce | So I wonder. |
| 19:53.07 | jsmith | Been there, done that... still have scars |
| 19:53.15 | Alric-Ofce | Is this in ms? |
| 19:53.29 | jsmith | What does Sipura have to do with this? |
| 19:53.31 | Alric-Ofce | Oh. Heh. |
| 19:53.45 | Alric-Ofce | Sipura is the device that has "CPC Duration" and "CPC Delay" in their config. |
| 19:53.55 | Alric-Ofce | a freaking 2 second CPC Delay. |
| 19:54.16 | jsmith | That's normal... regular telco is like 6 seconds |
| 19:54.27 | Alric-Ofce | Eh. |
| 19:54.34 | Alric-Ofce | All the stuff I'm reading about is in milliseconds. |
| 19:54.36 | Alric-Ofce | like 500ms |
| 19:55.57 | Alric-Ofce | yay back to Bill Engvall MoH. |
| 19:58.18 | Alric-Ofce | Woo. |
| 19:58.31 | Alric-Ofce | Hallelujah! Perhaps things will be going better today. |
| 20:01.57 | Alric-Ofce | Just in time for Friday. |
| 20:02.35 | blitzrage | jsmith: ping? |
| 20:03.02 | blitzrage | you didn't happen to make a Read() patch for multiple filename playback for 1.4 did you? |
| 20:03.30 | jsmith | blitzrage: Yeah, I think so. |
| 20:03.38 | blitzrage | ok, finding the bug now |
| 20:03.48 | jsmith | blitzrage: I made one for 1.2 and one for trunk, before 1.4 was branched |
| 20:03.57 | jsmith | blitzrage: So the one for "trunk" probably applies to 1.4, and not trunk |
| 20:03.59 | blitzrage | oh ok -- will try the trunk one |
| 20:04.04 | blitzrage | fair enough |
| 20:04.15 | blitzrage | we should really get those into svncommunity because it is so damn handy |
| 20:04.23 | jsmith | Yeah, we need to. |
| 20:04.35 | jsmith | I really need to dig up my crypto key for svncommunity and use it. |
| 20:04.52 | blitzrage | agreed |
| 20:05.07 | blitzrage | I have a key, but I never got it setup I don't think. I'm sure I still have the email from Kevin around here somewhere. |
| 20:05.39 | blitzrage | w00t, it applies |
| 20:06.18 | jsmith | w00t! |
| 20:06.26 | jsmith | Does the 1.2 one still apply to 1.2? |
| 20:06.31 | blitzrage | yep! |
| 20:06.35 | blitzrage | I've been using it for a while now |
| 20:06.42 | jsmith | killer |
| 20:06.43 | blitzrage | Read() I don't think has changed at all |
| 20:06.51 | blitzrage | in 1.4, offset by 4 lines, but that's it |
| 20:07.00 | jsmith | Yeah, I ought to fix those up and post them. |
| 20:07.25 | blitzrage | offsets are no biggie |
| 20:07.30 | blitzrage | but anyways, it still works in 1.4 |
| 20:07.38 | blitzrage | 7897 if you forgot |
| 20:07.57 | jsmith | Well, it wouldn't be hard to build a patch that applied without any fuzz too |
| 20:08.54 | blitzrage | true |
| 20:09.01 | blitzrage | just seems unnecessary :) |
| 20:10.59 | Alric-Ofce | my app_queue patches from 1.0.x still apply to 1.4.0 :) |
| 20:11.32 | jsmith | Alric-Ofce: App_queue patches? |
| 20:11.51 | Alric-Ofce | Yeah. |
| 20:11.52 | jsmith | My app_queue patches are part of 1.4 |
| 20:12.08 | Alric-Ofce | This patch makes like a mini hunt group |
| 20:12.29 | Alric-Ofce | Takes the order listed in queues.conf, the member section, and rings them top to bottom |
| 20:12.32 | Alric-Ofce | then starts over. |
| 20:12.38 | Alric-Ofce | each new call starts at the beginning |
| 20:13.15 | Alric-Ofce | Busy or No Answer = go on to the next one |
| 20:13.43 | Alric-Ofce | roundrobin and rr_memory don't do that, or didn't back in 1.0.x |
| 20:14.04 | jsmith | That's what was called roundrobin, but wasn't really roundrobin |
| 20:14.21 | Alric-Ofce | Roundrobin didn't do that. |
| 20:14.31 | jsmith | Sure it did |
| 20:14.32 | Alric-Ofce | roundrobin called #1 for a long time, and never went to #2. |
| 20:14.40 | jsmith | Huh? |
| 20:14.48 | Alric-Ofce | I messed with roundrobin for like a week and it never worked right. |
| 20:15.14 | jsmith | Where's blitzrage when I need him to tell me I'm not crazy?!? |
| 20:15.14 | Alric-Ofce | Why would I have made my own C changes when I don't even know C to do something that was already done? :) |
| 20:15.26 | jsmith | That's exactly the question *I'm* asking |
| 20:15.33 | Alric-Ofce | I wouldn't have! |
| 20:15.36 | Alric-Ofce | rr didn't work! :P |
| 20:15.41 | Alric-Ofce | rr_memory didn't work either |
| 20:15.48 | Alric-Ofce | You actually suggested those way back when :) |
| 20:20.59 | jsmith | Imagine that... at least I'm consistent |
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| 20:23.06 | Alric-Ofce | You are consistent. |
| 20:23.26 | Alric-Ofce | Consistently helping us who would be utterly lost and dismayed without your presence :) |
| 20:25.15 | blitzrage | Alric-Ofce: thanks, I appreciate that |
| 20:25.32 | Alric-Ofce | I was talking to jsmith... you're in the aforementioned group with me :P |
| 20:25.48 | blitzrage | I'm one step above that :) |
| 20:26.07 | blitzrage | I at least know how to use the Manager :) |
| 20:26.12 | Alric-Ofce | woah woah. |
| 20:26.15 | Alric-Ofce | I know how to use Manager. |
| 20:27.15 | Alric-Ofce | Had as in produced with the help of a co-worker back when 0.5.0 was new :) |
| 20:28.13 | Alric-Ofce | I used to skillfully find cell phone numbers of people I knew online and Originate tt-monkeys to them, hehe. |
| 20:30.07 | blitzrage | fun stuff :) |
| 20:31.41 | Alric-Ofce | But that manager documentation was put on an unlabeled floppy disk during a project transition and never found again. |
| 20:32.10 | Alric-Ofce | So now I have the only hardcopy of those docs in a binder. Fun fun. |
| 20:32.50 | Alric-Ofce | Anyone have a macro or something that a customer could use to do some Record()ing? |
| 20:33.02 | Alric-Ofce | record, playback, etc with some nice greetings and whatnot? |
| 20:40.22 | blitzrage | jsmith: I just realized the voicemessages table doesn't have the date/time of the voicemail |
| 20:40.46 | Alric-Ofce | See? Utterly lost and dismayed! |
| 20:43.54 | blitzrage | there's to be NO GOOD MOODS! |
| 20:45.58 | Alric-Ofce | ok bbl |
| 20:51.22 | jsmith | blitzrage: It doesn't?!? |
| 20:52.07 | blitzrage | jsmith: well... what column would contain the date/time? I see no date/time field. |
| 20:52.37 | jsmith | origtime maybe? |
| 20:53.42 | blitzrage | that's just the uniqueID |
| 20:53.51 | blitzrage | (time since 1970, whatever that is called) |
| 20:53.53 | jsmith | WHAT?!? |
| 20:54.01 | jsmith | Nope, not quite. |
| 20:54.13 | blitzrage | well anyways, that's what is populated in that column -- it's not a date/time |
| 20:54.17 | jsmith | the origtime is the number of seconds since 1970 |
| 20:54.24 | jsmith | Which is a unix timestamp |
| 20:54.32 | blitzrage | that's pretty much what I said :) |
| 20:54.34 | jsmith | Which means you can *trivially* turn it into the date and time |
| 20:54.40 | blitzrage | I guess.... |
| 20:54.48 | blitzrage | kinda annoying -- Paul isn't gonna like that ;) |
| 20:55.00 | jsmith | blitzrage: Even PgSQL can turn it into a date/time for you |
| 20:55.01 | blitzrage | unless there is a PHP function... which I'm sure there is |
| 20:55.21 | jsmith | Of course, but it's easier just to have Postgres do it as part of the query. |
| 20:56.43 | blitzrage | any idea how that would be done? |
| 20:57.10 | jsmith | http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.2/interactive/functions-datetime.html |
| 20:57.39 | jsmith | C'mon, it's not like it's in Julian date format or anything like that |
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| 21:15.25 | Alric | Alright. |
| 21:15.29 | Alric | This is a really, really stupid question. |
| 21:15.40 | Alric | But I cannot for the life of my make this darn thing work correctly. |
| 21:15.45 | Alric | I know ;) |
| 21:16.01 | Alric | When you're making an IVR, how do you make the menu pa... wait! |
| 21:16.14 | Alric | I want some time for the user to input a response, like dial a digit. |
| 21:16.30 | Alric | I set timeout(response) and timeout(digit), but Asterisk seems to ignore those. |
| 21:19.41 | Alric | Thats another thing. |
| 21:19.56 | Alric | I sent the call into a macro. That macro has some dial options. |
| 21:20.02 | Alric | Like an IVR macro |
| 21:20.14 | Juggie | depends on if you do it using menu's or Read() |
| 21:20.15 | Alric | but when I dial 1, it looks for 1 in my outbound calling context. |
| 21:20.29 | Alric | menus, haven't ever touched Read() |
| 21:21.14 | Alric | I'm doing like "Press 1 for Accounting, Press 2 for Service..." etc. |
| 21:21.17 | Juggie | AbsoluteTimeout is what you are looking for |
| 21:21.26 | Juggie | i tihnk |
| 21:21.28 | Juggie | *think |
| 21:21.30 | Alric | AbsoluteTimeout sets the timeout for the whole call. |
| 21:21.35 | Alric | And ends the whole call after that time has been reached. |
| 21:22.05 | Juggie | hmm |
| 21:23.00 | Juggie | when you did timeout(response) do you have a t, extension? |
| 21:23.16 | Alric | no |
| 21:23.24 | Juggie | well, it needs that to handle the timeout |
| 21:23.24 | Alric | but t was never called. |
| 21:23.34 | Juggie | also i dont know if autofallthrough= affects it. |
| 21:23.49 | Alric | autofallthrough seems to mess with things. |
| 21:23.53 | Alric | So I turned it off. |
| 21:23.54 | Juggie | indeed. |
| 21:24.01 | Alric | But now its seeking the extension in the wrong context. |
| 21:24.40 | Juggie | could you pastebin what you have done. |
| 21:25.20 | Alric | http://www.pastebin.ca/328515 |
| 21:26.08 | Juggie | hmmmm |
| 21:26.12 | Juggie | this seems famaliar |
| 21:26.25 | Juggie | i think i tried to do the same thing before and i discovered it does not work in macros |
| 21:26.32 | Juggie | use Read() |
| 21:26.36 | Juggie | that does work. |
| 21:26.51 | Alric | eh |
| 21:27.56 | Alric | This sucks. |
| 21:30.09 | Juggie | http://www.pastebin.ca/328520 |
| 21:30.11 | Juggie | like so. |
| 21:30.22 | Alric | made my macro into a context |
| 21:30.23 | Alric | works now |
| 21:31.04 | Juggie | cheater |
| 21:31.07 | Juggie | read is better :) |
| 21:31.09 | Alric | Nah |
| 21:31.14 | Alric | Read() = More complication |
| 21:32.05 | Alric | will multiple goto's lose channel variables? |
| 21:32.34 | jsmith | Alric: No, because they're *channel* variables |
| 21:33.10 | Alric | This is starting to be a nice little recording "macro" |
| 21:35.20 | Juggie | nah read is less complication |
| 21:35.20 | Juggie | less context's |
| 21:35.32 | Alric | mine has 1 context |
| 21:35.54 | Juggie | then you must only get input once. |
| 21:36.00 | Alric | nah |
| 21:36.05 | Alric | I get input multiple times. |
| 21:36.09 | Alric | But I loop back :) |
| 21:36.16 | Juggie | eugh |
| 21:37.03 | Juggie | its a brisk -18F here today |
| 21:37.22 | Juggie | with the windchill |
| 21:37.30 | Alric | brisk 50F here. |
| 21:38.13 | jsmith | It warmed up to 34F here today |
| 21:38.22 | jsmith | Got a little snow, but now it's mostly melted |
| 21:38.35 | jsmith | Did get to have a snowball fight with my daughter during my lunch break, though |
| 21:39.08 | Alric | You seem too young to have kids. |
| 21:39.16 | Alric | Especially kids that can have snowball fights with you. |
| 21:40.09 | jsmith | My son just turned 8 |
| 21:40.21 | jsmith | My daughter will turn 5 in April |
| 21:40.32 | Alric | Crazy |
| 21:40.42 | Alric | You're too young though! |
| 21:40.52 | jsmith | Just how old do you think I am? |
| 21:41.06 | jsmith | I swear... half the world thinks I'm 22, and the other half thinks I'm 50 |
| 21:41.10 | Alric | Well, you /look/ not much older than I am. |
| 21:41.45 | Alric | But you're probably knowledgeable enough to be mid/late 30s. |
| 21:42.00 | jsmith | 31 |
| 21:42.07 | Alric | So I guess thats good. Look younger than you are... |
| 21:42.16 | Alric | Whereas I just got asked if I had any kids. |
| 21:42.28 | Alric | By someone who expected I did. And I *am* 22. |
| 21:43.52 | jsmith | Well, you know what they say.... |
| 21:43.57 | jsmith | ... it's not the age, it's the mileage |
| 21:43.58 | Alric | ? |
| 21:46.02 | blitzrage | jsmith: my friend who is the same age as me (in fact a few months younger) has a 9 year old |
| 21:46.12 | blitzrage | so there ya go :) |
| 21:46.18 | jsmith | Oh yeah? |
| 21:46.21 | jsmith | That's nothing... |
| 21:46.21 | Alric | How old are you? |
| 21:46.42 | jsmith | My wife said that there was a girl in her graduating class (high school) who already had three kids when she graduated |
| 21:46.46 | blitzrage | I just turned 26 |
| 21:46.53 | blitzrage | jeebuz |
| 21:47.07 | Alric | There was a freshman in my HS who had a kid that year. |
| 22:12.44 | Juggie | heh |
| 22:12.52 | Juggie | it happens |
| 22:18.00 | Alric | Well. |
| 22:18.10 | Alric | Last I checked, it wouldn't happen as long as you don't screw around. |
| 22:18.51 | jsmith | I was gonna mention something about abstinance, but thankfully Alric stepped in and said it for me |
| 22:19.03 | Alric | But maybe the stork story really is true. |
| 22:19.06 | Alric | ;) |
| 22:19.11 | Juggie | thats crazy talk |
| 22:19.28 | Alric | Actually, I'd say thats "anti-screwed" talk. |
| 22:19.39 | Juggie | i would call it crazy ;) |
| 22:19.53 | Juggie | you woudnt buy a car without test driving it first would you :P |
| 22:20.00 | Alric | Hey, fine with me. |
| 22:20.12 | Alric | Just don't pawn off the consequences of your actions on welfare, the government, or any other entity but yourself. |
| 22:20.31 | Alric | Because then it becomes not fine for me. I dislike paying for other people's mistakes. |
| 22:20.38 | Juggie | heh |
| 22:20.52 | Juggie | i make too much money to get any benefits from the goverment |
| 22:22.12 | Juggie | yah well, i'm from canada |
| 22:22.16 | Alric | And go get federal/state funded medical care freely that I can't even get freely that, yes, again, is at my expense. |
| 22:22.17 | Juggie | we dont have your problems :) |
| 22:22.45 | Juggie | everyone gets health care |
| 22:22.48 | Juggie | its more fair that way |
| 22:23.04 | Alric | Life, liberty and /pursuit/ of happiness. That is fair. |
| 22:23.35 | jsmith | Juggie: Would you buy a "new" car that other other people had "had their fun" with before you bought it? |
| 22:24.05 | jsmith | Alric: That's so old-fashioned. Congress just changed it to read "Life, Liberty, and the Happiness of Pursuit" |
| 22:25.30 | Alric | "(Those) who are trying to read the Second Amendment out of the Constitution by claiming it's not an individual right (are) courting disaster by encouraging others to use the same means to eliminate portions of the Constitution they don't like." -- Alan Dershowitz, Harvard Law School |
| 22:26.24 | Juggie | jsmith, unless you get married to your high school sweetheart, there are no cars with 0km available. |
| 22:26.44 | Alric | Maybe in Canada thats the case. We still have new cars here in America. |
| 22:27.23 | Juggie | Canada is a little different :) |
| 22:27.45 | Alric | Different as in the "alternate" lifestyle the socially deviant live? |
| 22:28.28 | jsmith | Juggie: My wife had 0km ;-) |
| 22:28.56 | Juggie | well i'm 26 |
| 22:29.05 | Juggie | there are no 26 year old girls w/ 0km that are hot :) |
| 22:29.28 | Alric | There's probably more than you think. Just perhaps not in the places you're looking. |
| 22:31.00 | Juggie | plus, anyone who was would probally wish that i was a religious person |
| 22:31.05 | Juggie | and i am not, nor will i ever be |
| 22:31.33 | Alric | Or they could be extra tolerant? :) |
| 22:31.48 | blitzrage | even new cars need a break in period :) |
| 22:32.14 | Alric | Lets see... what is that word, that thing that follows a wedding usually. Oh, right.. honeymoon... |
| 22:32.36 | Alric | (Unless your name is jsmith. Then they call it "nightmare") |
| 22:33.03 | blitzrage | +ly |
| 22:33.33 | blitzrage | I won't change your mind, you won't change my mind, so it's a waste of time |
| 22:33.53 | blitzrage | I can even make it rhyme! |
| 22:33.59 | Alric | Never know... not all beliefs are set in stone, are they? |
| 22:34.37 | blitzrage | nope, but my experiences and your experiences are significantly different, and the chances of me agreeing with your political beliefs is gonna be inconsequencial :) |
| 22:34.44 | blitzrage | heck, we barely agree on Asterisk |
| 22:34.47 | blitzrage | :) |
| 22:36.20 | blitzrage | ok, I'm going out with friends for the night -- lates! |
| 22:36.35 | Alric | lata |
| 22:36.51 | Alric | So anyway. |
| 22:36.56 | Alric | I finally got those Vikings to work right. |
| 22:37.28 | Juggie | i'm going to go to the gym now for a run, and check out the girls in tight skimpy clothes, dunno if thats allowed, but i am gonna do it anyways :) |
| 22:42.44 | Alric | Hey, some of them might have 0km! |
| 22:44.50 | Juggie | yah i'll be sure to ask :) |
| 22:44.55 | Alric | :P |
| 22:45.05 | Alric | Yeah, you do that. |
| 22:45.08 | Alric | Report back the results. |
| 22:45.19 | Alric | blitzen here is anxious to know, I can tell. |
| 22:54.16 | Juggie | you know non 0km people are good people too, maybe they just made a bunch of mistakes, and you do forgive mistakes right? :P |
| 22:54.41 | Alric | Only if I don't have to pay for them. |
| 22:54.45 | Alric | ;) |
| 22:57.02 | Juggie | well off to the gym i go :) |
| 22:57.05 | Alric | Later |
| 22:57.51 | Alric | I can see Juggie now. Walks up to a woman. "Excuse me ma'am. I'd like to ask you out, but first I need to ask a few questions. We'll start with your mileage..." |
| 23:09.13 | Alric | Craap. |
| 23:16.43 | Alric | Hmmm. |