| 00:44.08 | file | darn it |
| 00:44.20 | file | blitzrage is always MIA when I want to talk to him |
| 01:09.48 | Juggie | pish |
| 01:09.58 | Juggie | i'm @ work making the easiest 100$ ever. |
| 01:10.11 | Juggie | i have to make a code change for DST, 3hr OT min @ 1.5 |
| 05:59.47 | Juggie | tnx |
| 05:59.50 | Juggie | it was delicious |
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| 14:23.51 | file | blitzrage: I have a question! |
| 14:24.44 | blitzrage | file: I have an answer! |
| 14:25.02 | file | blitzrage: can I get from union station to the MTCC using the skywalk? |
| 14:25.41 | blitzrage | blitzrage: hrmmmmm..... I think so |
| 14:25.58 | blitzrage | you can get to the skydome from there... so I'd think so |
| 14:26.09 | file | k |
| 14:26.40 | file | I found a relatively inexpensive hotel on york street, not far from the airport express stop... and close to union station |
| 14:27.03 | blitzrage | nice! You can walk from there to MTCC even -- it should be reasonably nice out by then |
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| 14:30.07 | file | jsmith! |
| 14:31.08 | *** mode/#asterisk-doc [+o jsmith] by ChanServ |
| 14:31.15 | jsmith | file! |
| 14:31.33 | jsmith | How are we all this morning? |
| 14:32.28 | file | great! |
| 14:32.57 | blitzrage | not dead! |
| 14:33.15 | file | blitzrage: questionable. |
| 14:36.46 | file | come and get my love, take me in your arms, lift me up above! |
| 14:38.33 | jsmith | No thanks... I'm married |
| 14:40.07 | file | flight booked |
| 14:40.33 | blitzrage | w00t! |
| 14:40.37 | blitzrage | so is mine |
| 14:40.58 | file | lol |
| 14:41.07 | jsmith | blitzrage: Where you going? |
| 14:41.09 | blitzrage | you should see if Kristian wants to split the room with you |
| 14:41.13 | blitzrage | jsmith: Linuxworld! |
| 14:41.15 | blitzrage | in Toronto! |
| 14:41.21 | file | is he coming? |
| 14:41.24 | jsmith | blitzrage: Why do you need a flight? |
| 14:41.25 | blitzrage | I think so |
| 14:41.29 | blitzrage | jsmith: I obviously don't |
| 14:41.33 | file | jsmith: he was joking! |
| 14:41.44 | jsmith | Ah... too early for jokes... must have donuts |
| 14:41.58 | jsmith | brb |
| 14:42.01 | blitzrage | ewwwww |
| 14:43.52 | file | it's 67 cents cheaper to get a room with breakfast in the morning, then it is without |
| 14:43.55 | file | figure THAT out |
| 14:44.56 | blitzrage | strange... |
| 14:46.06 | blitzrage | you can't spy on a specific channel except in trunk right? |
| 14:46.20 | blitzrage | (might not even be in trunk... think I saw something on the bug tracker for that though) |
| 14:47.57 | blitzrage | grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.... res_odbc crashes Asterisk if you give it an invalid SQL statement |
| 14:48.17 | file | blitzrage: I have no sympathy for you! |
| 14:48.44 | file | blitzrage: are you already into the wine? |
| 14:48.54 | blitzrage | I wish |
| 14:53.16 | jsmith | OK, so the crullers were a little crunchy, but the chocolate cake donut was spot on |
| 14:54.10 | jsmith | Looks like it's time to dive back into my automon bug again |
| 14:54.28 | jsmith | Anybody feel like taking a stab at it with me? |
| 14:57.00 | brac | file files jsmith as a good number of people there taking notes |
| 14:57.27 | file | brac: absolutely correct |
| 14:57.37 | jsmith | -chat about the file |
| 14:57.38 | brac | the file read-only |
| 14:57.54 | jsmith | -chat about file for |
| 14:57.55 | brac | file for me, I'll start selling songs from two days ago, the guy takes jewel cases and puts it in class I'll probably buy the skype service, of course |
| 14:57.55 | file | can't write this! <cue music> |
| 14:58.30 | jsmith | -chat about can't touch |
| 14:58.30 | brac | can't touch me, and it's way with him instead of section 1, etc |
| 14:58.33 | file | Russell has today off! |
| 14:58.44 | file | double plus ungood |
| 14:59.13 | jsmith | What do you guys think.... should I file this as a bug, or keep fighting it for a little while first |
| 15:01.44 | blitzrage | when I do a Dial() to a SIP channel that is registered, why am I seeing Couldn't call <foo_channel> even though it is reg'd -- it's almost like Asterisk isn't even trying to send the invite? |
| 15:02.04 | jsmith | blitzrage: qualify=yes? |
| 15:02.12 | jsmith | blitzrage: What is the qualify status? |
| 15:02.31 | blitzrage | it's fine |
| 15:02.38 | blitzrage | 120ms |
| 15:02.55 | jsmith | Strange... then it should send the INVITE at least |
| 15:03.02 | jsmith | What's the exact error message you're seeing? |
| 15:03.31 | blitzrage | I just told you :) |
| 15:03.40 | blitzrage | Couldn't call <foo_channel> |
| 15:03.55 | blitzrage | this is 1.2.16 -- it was working in 1.2.12.1.... |
| 15:03.59 | blitzrage | via Local |
| 15:04.13 | file | my poor poor brother, he's living off $0 right now and the bank stuck him with service charges and NSF fees and junk... oh the madness |
| 15:04.15 | blitzrage | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:04.15 | blitzrage | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:04.15 | blitzrage | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:04.42 | jsmith | blitzrage: DIALSTATUS is "CHANUNVAIL"? |
| 15:04.47 | blitzrage | you don't loan friends money -- you give them money if they need it, and if they pay it back... then cool |
| 15:04.53 | jsmith | s/UNVAI/UNAVAI/ |
| 15:05.03 | file | my brother is my brother |
| 15:05.13 | jsmith | At least you get to choose your friends ;-) |
| 15:07.55 | blitzrage | returns CHANUNAVAIL for some reason |
| 15:08.31 | blitzrage | both are reg'd, with OK (120ms) |
| 15:09.00 | blitzrage | asterisk isn't sending an INVITE.... |
| 15:09.12 | file | turn up core debug and see if chan_sip enlightens you |
| 15:11.33 | blitzrage | what are the sip.conf options again? |
| 15:12.13 | blitzrage | sipdebug=yes... |
| 15:12.38 | file | debug in logger.conf for console, set debug 9 |
| 15:12.42 | file | plus perhaps sip debug |
| 15:13.29 | blitzrage | nevermind... |
| 15:13.32 | blitzrage | ysah |
| 15:13.40 | blitzrage | not what I wanted in sip -- guess history is only in 1.4+ |
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| 15:15.05 | blitzrage | fuckin' usage limit!!! |
| 15:15.20 | blitzrage | and of course I have notice turned off |
| 15:15.21 | blitzrage | grrrr |
| 15:15.43 | blitzrage | this is why I hate call limits in sip.conf and not using GROUP() |
| 15:15.48 | blitzrage | too many places checking for call limits |
| 15:15.54 | *** mode/#asterisk-doc [+o jsmith] by ChanServ |
| 15:16.27 | jsmith | -chat about stupid ISP |
| 15:16.27 | brac | stupid ISP |
| 15:16.35 | jsmith | -chat about my stupid |
| 15:16.36 | blitzrage | how do I check what the call limit usage on a channel is? |
| 15:16.36 | brac | my stupid music they listen to them was made radioactive. |
| 15:16.52 | jsmith | sip show peer <foo> |
| 15:17.06 | jsmith | sip show user <foo> |
| 15:17.32 | blitzrage | hrmmm.... well that shows me the max, not how many are in use... and how can I reset them? |
| 15:17.39 | file | sip show inuse |
| 15:17.46 | blitzrage | thx |
| 15:18.11 | blitzrage | anyway to reset for a peer? |
| 15:19.23 | file | Negative. |
| 15:19.26 | blitzrage | I think Asterisk is reporting this usage incorrectly |
| 15:19.52 | blitzrage | shit... |
| 15:23.48 | file | omg |
| 15:24.02 | file | 9203 |
| 15:25.37 | blitzrage | LOL!!!! |
| 15:26.46 | jsmith | file: I'd close this bug with "We've had this discussion on the asterisk-dev mailing list. Due to the extremely sensitive nature of this bug, what you see is what you get." |
| 15:27.17 | blitzrage | ok... so my issue is now fixed. |
| 15:27.32 | blitzrage | Have I mentioned how much I hate call-limit? :) |
| 15:27.44 | file | I agree |
| 15:27.48 | file | I hate it too |
| 15:27.59 | jsmith | blitzrage: Right... |
| 15:28.02 | jsmith | file: Me three! |
| 15:28.11 | blitzrage | GROUP() is where it's at |
| 15:28.28 | file | blitzrage: what GROUP do you belong to? |
| 15:28.43 | jsmith | Set(GROUP(toronto)) |
| 15:28.46 | blitzrage | Set(GROUP(cool)=leif) |
| 15:29.09 | blitzrage | Set(GROUP(newbie)=file) |
| 15:29.39 | file | no :( |
| 15:29.40 | blitzrage | they've got part of the highway closed off in Toronto... sucks to be people driving today |
| 15:31.03 | file | pesky Toronto |
| 15:32.16 | blitzrage | ok something is seriously wrong |
| 15:32.24 | blitzrage | call-limit is broke in 1.2.16 |
| 15:32.35 | blitzrage | I don't think it is decrementing when the call hangs up.... |
| 15:33.02 | blitzrage | I'm just removing call limits on phones all together |
| 15:33.10 | blitzrage | Louie can have call limits in the new system |
| 15:33.18 | jsmith | You probably want busylimit or limit-on-peers-only (whatever it's called) |
| 15:37.28 | file | go go snow snow |
| 15:37.40 | blitzrage | jsmith: this is 1.2 |
| 15:38.13 | jsmith | Ah... I think you're stuck with limitonpeers then -- no busylimit in 1.2 |
| 15:38.22 | blitzrage | I know :) |
| 15:38.41 | blitzrage | and I don't think it's called limitonpeers in 1.2 either |
| 15:38.51 | jsmith | Who knows... |
| 15:39.54 | blitzrage | maxincominglimit / maxoutgoinglimit |
| 15:40.51 | blitzrage | fuck I can't just remove the option as it doesn't get reset in sip |
| 15:41.21 | jsmith | That works |
| 15:42.21 | blitzrage | until someone takes 1000 calls |
| 15:42.24 | blitzrage | (not simultaneously) |
| 15:43.44 | file | 65536! |
| 15:44.29 | blitzrage | I'm curious to see how fast this climbs up to 1000 |
| 16:02.58 | file | darn it |
| 16:03.21 | jsmith | file: What now? |
| 16:03.24 | file | I Just stabbed myself trying to unpackage a Polycom headset |
| 16:04.59 | blitzrage | lol |
| 16:05.02 | blitzrage | I need a headset.... |
| 16:05.06 | blitzrage | wireless preferably |
| 16:05.41 | blitzrage | or I had bluetooth in my laptop and had a bluetooth headset so I could use chan_cellphone |
| 16:08.37 | file | yay success |
| 16:08.59 | file | input: Plantronics Plantronics Headset as /class/input/input2 |
| 16:08.59 | file | input: USB HID v1.00 Device [Plantronics Plantronics Headset] on usb-0000:00:13.0-3 |
| 16:09.36 | blitzrage | nice |
| 16:09.40 | blitzrage | which headset? |
| 16:09.41 | blitzrage | how much? |
| 16:10.13 | file | yes. |
| 16:18.17 | file | blitzrage: http://www.plantronics.com/north_america/en_US/products/cat640035/cat640035/prod5500015 |
| 16:18.23 | file | got it for less then that mind you off eBay |
| 16:19.26 | blitzrage | interesting... so I guess you use it for audio and chat? |
| 16:19.29 | blitzrage | (i.e. music) |
| 16:20.08 | file | and ... maybe ... a podcast! |
| 16:20.26 | jsmith | file: Is it supported under Linux? |
| 16:20.28 | blitzrage | neato |
| 16:20.33 | file | jsmith: yes |
| 16:20.35 | file | jsmith: it worked fine |
| 16:20.43 | jsmith | blitzrage: Buy me one too while you're at it |
| 16:20.44 | blitzrage | I have some wireless headphones that I should break out of storage |
| 16:20.58 | file | and the DSP capability seems to work great, it filtered out all the background noise |
| 16:21.15 | jsmith | Very nice... |
| 16:21.30 | file | (for reference there are 5 ticking clocks in this room) |
| 16:21.35 | brac | (for reference there are several shops around that though |
| 16:27.20 | jsmith | w00t! |
| 16:27.24 | jsmith | I killed it! |
| 16:27.26 | jsmith | It's dead |
| 16:27.43 | blitzrage | http://pastebin.ca/382391 |
| 16:27.50 | blitzrage | jsmith: what'd you do? |
| 16:28.57 | file | why do I always get the same guy whenever I have to call Swiss Chalet? have they assigned me my own person since I order so much?!? |
| 16:29.01 | jsmith | [unixODBC]Error while executing the query (non-fatal);\nERROR: function user_features() does not exist |
| 16:30.19 | jsmith | blitzrage: Blame Corydon |
| 16:30.35 | file | the Kristian can't make it |
| 16:30.36 | jsmith | blitzrage: It's calling libodbc with bad data, most likely |
| 16:30.51 | blitzrage | file: booooooooO! |
| 16:31.00 | file | something about Brazil |
| 16:31.08 | blitzrage | teh sux |
| 16:31.22 | file | Unfortunately I also signed on for a trip to Brazil and I have a |
| 16:31.22 | file | deadline on some projects here. I don't think that I could pull off |
| 16:31.22 | file | both trips (and I already bought the Brazil tickets)... |
| 16:31.30 | file | you should email and convince him |
| 16:36.21 | jsmith | blitzrage: Might not hurt to recompile unixODBC from the SRPM and make sure you install the -debuginfo RPM that's generated |
| 16:36.32 | jsmith | blitzrage: That way, you have debugging symbols for unixODBC as well |
| 16:37.06 | blitzrage | will have to do that at some other point... don't have the time this week probably -- just need to make sure I don't have any bad SQL statements I guess |
| 16:37.31 | jsmith | I thought you were going to take a sabattical? |
| 16:40.20 | blitzrage | one more week to go |
| 16:40.33 | blitzrage | gotta get this system implemented this week |
| 16:40.55 | blitzrage | very carefully |
| 16:41.07 | blitzrage | wouldn't be an issue if my invoices outstanding from November got paid |
| 16:41.33 | blitzrage | it's the fun stuff |
| 16:41.58 | file | I r waiting for expense report from HSV trip! |
| 16:49.24 | file | there needs to be a class on how to file a bug report |
| 16:50.38 | blitzrage | no kidding |
| 16:50.42 | blitzrage | i was planning on writing a small chapter / section on filing bugs, debugging, etc... |
| 16:50.45 | file | one bug lastnight... "Asterisk 1.2.16 Crashed" |
| 16:50.53 | jsmith | file: Or even better, how to be a good community member |
| 16:51.05 | jsmith | How to file bugs... how to ask for help... *where* to ask for help.... how to help yourself |
| 16:51.18 | jsmith | How to get someone else to scratch your itch |
| 16:51.46 | file | and yet another... |
| 16:51.52 | file | this is the title: "Version 1.4.1" |
| 16:52.08 | jsmith | file: Mantis needs a bunch of "stock response" buttons. |
| 16:52.30 | jsmith | file: Then you could just push the "Go to http://url and read how to file a proper bug report" button |
| 16:53.05 | file | Russell brought this up internally, and I think I might talk to him and we might both go to IT to ask... but we use Jira internally and it's pretty insanely cool... so might ask IT to set it up for a test and import Mantis bugs |
| 16:53.09 | file | to see what it would be like |
| 16:53.35 | jsmith | By the way, the people at Atlassian (that wrote Jira) use Asterisk |
| 16:53.36 | blitzrage | wow it's windy out |
| 16:53.49 | jsmith | I came *this* close to setting it up for them |
| 16:53.49 | file | and why frown? |
| 16:54.00 | jsmith | Because they went with a different consultant. |
| 16:54.10 | jsmith | It was right in the middle of my move from Utah to Virginia |
| 16:54.17 | jsmith | And they decided they wanted someone in Australia |
| 16:56.35 | file | ah |
| 16:57.31 | blitzrage | oh nice... the ctrl, shift, caps lock, and tab key all stopped working on my laptop |
| 16:57.40 | jsmith | w00t! |
| 16:57.42 | jsmith | Time to buy a new one! |
| 16:57.52 | blitzrage | not gonna help me today |
| 16:57.55 | jsmith | blitzrage: I'm guessing it's a "something dropped in the keyboard" problem |
| 16:58.01 | blitzrage | nope |
| 16:58.07 | blitzrage | just stopped working randomly |
| 16:58.18 | blitzrage | you guessed wrong |
| 16:58.25 | jsmith | ~smash the keyboard |
| 16:58.28 | jbot | ACTION flings an anvil in the keyboard's general direction |
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| 17:05.33 | blitzrage | phew... KB works again |
| 17:14.41 | jsmith | Lucky you... |
| 17:15.30 | file | this security issue is driving me crazy |
| 17:16.23 | jsmith | Well, me too |
| 17:17.02 | jsmith | Personally, I'd rather there was a little more communication regarding how serious the issue was, and that there weren't going to be any details released until ITSPs had a chance to patch their systems. |
| 17:17.28 | jsmith | But I agree that you shouldn't say "Here's how to crash any Asterisk system... have fun!" |
| 17:17.32 | file | it would have gone like that, had it been reported directly to us like every other issue... |
| 17:20.05 | jsmith | Thanks... |
| 17:20.17 | jsmith | I'd give you a donut, but they're all gone :-( |
| 17:20.26 | jsmith | How about a Worthers candy? |
| 17:20.29 | file | poor poor donuts |
| 17:20.34 | file | no thanks, I'm eating lunch |
| 17:20.52 | jsmith | I need some of that too |
| 17:21.07 | jsmith | Gotta get my automon-to-vm-to-email goodness perfected though |
| 17:22.45 | jsmith | automon-to-vm is easy... but then getting it emailed out (from app_voicemail) may just be tougher than I thought |
| 17:33.58 | file | wow |
| 17:34.14 | file | I'm playing music in the background and the mic on this headset did not pick it up *at all* |
| 17:41.05 | blitzrage | jsmith: using ODBC VM? |
| 17:41.09 | brac | using ODBC storage for VM |
| 18:05.52 | jsmith | blitzrage: Nope... |
| 18:05.59 | jsmith | But brac got it right |
| 18:06.04 | jsmith | See... he's getting smarter |
| 18:06.31 | blitzrage | slightly... :) |
| 18:06.43 | blitzrage | he's still non-sensical... |
| 18:06.58 | jsmith | of course... |
| 18:07.02 | jsmith | But he'll get better over time |
| 18:44.43 | file | jsmith: so... back to the chan_sip madness from last week... was it really the firewall? |
| 18:48.28 | jsmith | file: We're still not sure, but it's looking like it is |
| 18:48.47 | jsmith | file: The two firewall guys are arguing over it, so I'm letting them battle it out |
| 18:48.53 | file | there's no way my code could have bugs |
| 18:48.55 | file | :D |
| 18:49.05 | jsmith | I'm sorry I ever inferred that it did |
| 19:06.21 | blitzrage | file: obviously not |
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| 19:43.00 | jsmith | I'm such an idiot |
| 19:47.39 | blitzrage | gotta love those ones |
| 19:52.40 | jsmith | MONITOR_EXEC_ARGS was actually working, but had a < in it (thanks to the CALLER*ID) |
| 19:53.01 | jsmith | And of course, Asterisk escapes all the arguments except for the ones in MONITOR_EXEC_ARGS |
| 19:53.54 | blitzrage | oh joy |
| 20:00.27 | jsmith | Hopefully, I won't have to end up writing app_injectvm |
| 20:09.56 | blitzrage | jsmith: what could be wrong if when PXE installing, it can't find the image because it says something like http://64.251.x.x//install... is missing? |
| 20:10.00 | blitzrage | notice the 2 /'s |
| 20:10.04 | file | hrm |
| 20:10.08 | file | question! |
| 20:10.20 | file | would you two thing a zap command to show what zaptel version and echo canceller it's using would be helpful? |
| 20:10.30 | jsmith | file: Definitely |
| 20:10.48 | jsmith | file: "zap show channels inuse" would be helpful as well, while you're at it |
| 20:11.00 | jsmith | file: Also show whether the jitterbuffer is enabled |
| 20:11.08 | jsmith | blitzrage: The two slashes won't make a difference |
| 20:11.19 | blitzrage | jsmith: yah... it's so strange because it works fine from my browser |
| 20:11.29 | blitzrage | it was working, then it just stopped working |
| 20:11.38 | jsmith | Is there a problem with the kickstart file? |
| 20:11.43 | jsmith | Is the box getting a DHCP address? |
| 20:11.45 | blitzrage | probably |
| 20:11.49 | blitzrage | yes, it is getting DHCP |
| 20:11.54 | jsmith | Is the box getting DHCP on the wrong interface? |
| 20:12.00 | file | WELL! |
| 20:12.00 | blitzrage | no, i disabled the other one |
| 20:12.01 | file | *CLI> zap show version |
| 20:12.01 | file | Zaptel Version: SVN-branch-1.4-r2233M Echo Canceller: MG2 |
| 20:12.11 | jsmith | file: Nice! |
| 20:12.39 | file | jsmith: :P |
| 20:12.56 | jsmith | If zttool can see it, why not Asterisk? |
| 20:13.11 | brac | jsmith ducks and lobs another grenade.... "zap show channels inuse" would be a lot of people, when they're living in salt Lake City intl) |
| 20:14.21 | blitzrage | brac: nice try... |
| 20:24.11 | jsmith | Cool |
| 20:24.28 | jsmith | (the Spanish rock helps) |
| 20:24.53 | jsmith | It's so easier to program to music in another language... it keeps your brain from thinking of all the words |
| 20:30.11 | blitzrage | I just listen to ambient music for that |
| 20:30.38 | jsmith | Yeah, but most of the ambient music is junk |
| 20:30.43 | blitzrage | wow... that asterisk.org website is oogly |
| 20:31.01 | jsmith | blitzrage: Please join the crusade to have it fixed... email marketing@digium.com and complain |
| 20:31.10 | jsmith | blitzrage: You too can help us in this important cause! |
| 20:31.14 | blitzrage | :) |
| 20:31.21 | jsmith | You'd think I'd typed that a few times |
| 20:31.26 | jsmith | Oh wait, I have :-) |
| 20:31.28 | blitzrage | no kidding |
| 20:35.07 | blitzrage | Since these kinds of things only get changed when enough people |
| 20:35.07 | blitzrage | suggest it, I'm doing my part to suggest that the the Asterisk.org |
| 20:35.07 | blitzrage | website either have a face-lift done to it, or the layout be reverted |
| 20:35.07 | blitzrage | to what it looked like before. Purple and Orange is so 1994. Sorry to |
| 20:35.07 | blitzrage | say it, but it's really ugly. |
| 20:35.10 | blitzrage | Thanks for listening! |
| 20:35.24 | blitzrage | sent! |
| 20:35.30 | jsmith | w00t! |
| 20:35.36 | jsmith | Thanks for joining the cause! |
| 20:38.54 | blitzrage | weeeeeeeee! |
| 20:39.36 | jsmith | Oh no you didn't! |
| 20:39.47 | jsmith | You gave in and did more support, before you got your paycheck?!? |
| 20:40.59 | file | naughty blitzrage |
| 20:43.01 | jsmith | http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/mel.html |
| 20:43.07 | jsmith | file = Mel |
| 20:43.12 | Juggie | blitzrage, i complained about the design a long time ago |
| 20:43.24 | Juggie | i would like to slap who ever is responsible really. |
| 20:43.51 | blitzrage | Juggie: complain again! |
| 20:44.28 | Juggie | to who |
| 20:45.00 | file | marketing of cousre |
| 20:45.02 | file | erm |
| 20:45.02 | file | course |
| 20:45.15 | Juggie | it looks like something a 15 year old designed in 1998 |
| 20:45.26 | Juggie | i feel like i should be looking at it in mosaic |
| 20:46.10 | jsmith | "I have often felt that programming is an art form, whose real value can only be appreciated by another versed in the same arcane art; there are lovely gems and brilliant coups hidden from human view and admiration, sometimes forever, by the very nature of the process." |
| 20:46.31 | Juggie | blitzrage, did you use NCSA mosaic? |
| 20:46.32 | blitzrage | Juggie: exactly |
| 20:46.34 | Juggie | or you jsmith? |
| 20:46.38 | blitzrage | Juggie: I did -- it sucked ;) |
| 20:46.51 | jsmith | Juggie: Yup... been there, done that. |
| 20:47.15 | blitzrage | jsmith: Lisa said she sent a check last Monday... so I gotta go downstairs to see if it arrived yet |
| 20:47.16 | jsmith | Juggie: Over a 2400 baud modem, using the Winsock extensions to Windows 3.11 |
| 20:47.24 | jsmith | blitzrage: w00t! |
| 20:47.29 | jsmith | blitzrage: Money is good! |
| 20:47.30 | Juggie | winsock extensions, pffft. |
| 20:47.39 | blitzrage | jsmith: no kidding... I can pay rent next month! |
| 20:47.43 | Juggie | the cool kids used trumpet winsock w/ SLIP |
| 20:47.46 | jsmith | blitzrage: Mind come in handy |
| 20:47.48 | brac | the cool stuff is the xmission mirror |
| 20:48.07 | Juggie | trumpet winsock was clearly the way to go ;) |
| 20:48.52 | Juggie | blitzrage, http://bbslist.textfiles.com/709/ |
| 20:48.55 | Juggie | look for me :P |
| 20:49.15 | Juggie | the date is wrong though it just says 97 which is incorrect |
| 20:49.24 | Juggie | it was more like 94-98/99 |
| 20:49.55 | blitzrage | http://bbslist.textfiles.com/519/ |
| 20:50.00 | blitzrage | look for Leif :) |
| 20:50.28 | Juggie | hehe, you got quoted? :) |
| 20:50.47 | file | ...old people... |
| 20:51.04 | Juggie | you know what the crazy thing is, i got a cable modem in like 96 |
| 20:51.17 | blitzrage | Juggie: yah man... i'm l33t |
| 20:51.17 | Juggie | it was the size of a vcr |
| 20:51.23 | blitzrage | file: pffft! |
| 20:51.27 | blitzrage | bbs's we teh coolest |
| 20:51.33 | blitzrage | were* |
| 20:51.37 | blitzrage | ARE! |
| 20:52.57 | Juggie | i got it for my 16th bday i think |
| 20:54.35 | Juggie | either way it was originally capped @ 180kb/s when i got it |
| 20:54.39 | file | jsmith: I have an idea to make RTP reception scale better. |
| 20:54.40 | Juggie | but back in 96 that was hot |
| 20:55.28 | jsmith | file: Oh? |
| 20:55.43 | file | it involves some Linux specific kernel level stuff |
| 20:56.33 | Juggie | blitzrage, http://www.nsd.nf.ca/GIFS/Computer/cmodem.jpg |
| 20:57.57 | blitzrage | you had a Cisco 2900 too eh? |
| 20:58.02 | Juggie | nah |
| 20:58.04 | Juggie | just the zenith |
| 20:58.10 | blitzrage | ah |
| 20:58.15 | Juggie | they basically had to pry that cable modem from me |
| 20:58.25 | Juggie | it had no access control, they coudnt filter it, or throttle it etc |
| 20:58.34 | Juggie | it was like plug into the network and it would work |
| 20:58.45 | blitzrage | I hate so much that I formatted that computer with the BBS on it |
| 20:58.51 | blitzrage | so should have kept a copy around |
| 20:59.01 | Juggie | one of the only things they could control was make the cable modem only talk to a certain mac address. |
| 20:59.45 | Juggie | i ran a ftp site on it and i was hogging all the bw in the network, someone found me on irc and told me to stop :) |
| 21:16.29 | jsmith | blitzrage: What, you don't have that automated in the kickstart file yet? |
| 21:16.41 | jsmith | blitzrage: You're a glutton for punishment! |
| 21:16.47 | brac | You're a stupid movie... |
| 21:17.41 | blitzrage | jsmith-away: no because we're just doing it manually until we figure out exactly how we're gonna be setting these machines up, then we'll create a script to call from KS to do it all |
| 21:19.08 | blitzrage | man I wish I had some snacking food around here... |
| 21:50.04 | Juggie | blitzrage, i just ate a box of choc covered almonds |
| 21:50.10 | Juggie | and they were fantastic :P |
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| 23:06.04 | jsmith | Hello greegoro |
