| 01:18.24 | file | hola |
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| 03:40.16 | file | ugh |
| 03:40.21 | file | the glass that covers my desk is so messy |
| 03:41.47 | file | yay |
| 05:30.57 | jsmith | OK, so my spectacular SIP problem I solved today isn't *completely* solved :-( |
| 12:06.17 | blitzrage | file: what software would you use for your webcam? |
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| 14:28.12 | file | blitzrage: unknown |
| 14:28.29 | blitzrage | file: you suck |
| 14:29.29 | file | eep |
| 14:31.19 | file | la la la |
| 15:37.17 | blitzrage | al al al |
| 17:17.11 | Juggie | blitzrage: my head! |
| 17:17.13 | Juggie | ahhhhh |
| 17:17.42 | blitzrage | Juggie: hung over? |
| 17:19.49 | Juggie | yes |
| 17:19.55 | Juggie | i hosted a house warming party last night. |
| 17:20.04 | Juggie | watched hockey, played poker, etc. |
| 17:20.58 | Juggie | first time hosting a party, and it turned out great. |
| 17:23.48 | blitzrage | those are always fun |
| 17:36.43 | Juggie | yep. |
| 17:36.50 | Juggie | was fun playing host, providing food and snacks, etc. |
| 17:40.43 | file | my desk and server cabinet are moved over to my apartment :D |
| 17:51.57 | Juggie | it will be fun to reset everything up |
| 17:52.03 | Juggie | did you buy some cable ties to organize stuff |
| 17:54.59 | file | not yet |
| 17:55.03 | file | there's no cables there yet to organize ^_^ |
| 17:55.12 | Juggie | today is april 1st isnt it? |
| 17:55.15 | Juggie | shoudnt you be moving in? |
| 17:55.26 | file | there's no internet access there |
| 17:55.43 | Juggie | no open wifi even? |
| 17:55.56 | file | not usable |
| 17:56.37 | Juggie | icic |
| 17:56.43 | Juggie | when are you getting your internet installed |
| 17:57.05 | Juggie | usually apartment cable drops are left active. |
| 17:57.14 | Juggie | so you can just get a cable modem and plug it in. |
| 17:57.26 | Juggie | they would only not be active if the person before you didnt have cable. |
| 17:57.48 | file | I didn't buy cable internet. |
| 17:59.06 | Juggie | who'd you go with? |
| 17:59.13 | file | Aliant |
| 17:59.26 | Juggie | what about for tv? |
| 17:59.33 | file | Rogers is the only choice |
| 18:00.44 | Juggie | thats silly |
| 18:00.51 | Juggie | why would you take dsl internet over rogers. |
| 18:01.00 | Juggie | when going w/ rogers would let you bundle and save money |
| 18:01.00 | file | because I like Aliant better? |
| 18:01.11 | file | I bundled with Aliant and saved :P |
| 18:01.21 | Juggie | you must have an aliant cell then. |
| 18:01.27 | file | no |
| 18:01.41 | file | anyway, that's the way I have my stuff setup - so :P |
| 18:01.44 | Juggie | oh, phone and internet right. |
| 18:01.56 | Juggie | rogers is like 2x faster though! :) |
| 18:02.10 | Juggie | anyways when are you going to be provisioned on the DSLAM? |
| 18:02.23 | file | I already am, they just screwed up and sent my equipment to the wrong place |
| 18:03.12 | Juggie | oic, nice. |
| 18:03.21 | Juggie | can you get it from there, or will they have to resend? |
| 18:03.31 | file | perhaps Monday... at worst Tuesday |
| 18:03.32 | Juggie | i have two dsl modems belonging to bell |
| 18:03.36 | Juggie | and they wont take them back |
| 18:03.47 | file | I have my own DSL modem, I just need my line settings and PPPoE info |
| 18:04.35 | Juggie | they wont give that out over support? |
| 18:04.44 | file | ha no |
| 18:05.35 | Juggie | thats why i dispise DSL. |
| 18:05.37 | Juggie | pppoe. |
| 18:05.50 | Juggie | all the modems they give out in ontario now have the pppoe client built in. |
| 18:08.33 | Juggie | i guess they figured people are going to leave their pc's on pretty much all the time so why bother them with their stupid client. |
| 18:08.50 | Juggie | i dont think isp's can really have a much lower number of ip's then they have customers. |
| 18:09.06 | Juggie | broadband anyways. |
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| 20:41.25 | file | ut roh |
| 20:41.40 | blitzrage | oh snap |
| 20:42.52 | russellb | yay |
| 20:46.33 | blitzrage | I can't |
| 20:46.34 | blitzrage | but this calculator can! |
| 20:46.48 | blitzrage | I suck at math soooooooooooo badly |
| 20:47.03 | blitzrage | me and math are mortal enemies |
| 20:48.24 | russellb | blitzrage: rough draft ... http://clemsonlinux.org/~russell/Contributing.pdf |
| 20:49.09 | blitzrage | double spaced?! lol |
| 20:49.16 | blitzrage | you're still in school mode :) |
| 20:50.27 | russellb | :( |
| 20:51.10 | russellb | i sux0r .. |
| 20:52.00 | russellb | i could go into a lot more detail about things like details on how to get backtraces, how to get other types of debug information like SIP debug ... |
| 20:52.00 | blitzrage | heh |
| 20:52.30 | russellb | but to cover things at that depth thoroughly would go on for a lot longer |
| 20:53.17 | blitzrage | totally |
| 20:53.22 | blitzrage | this is great though |
| 20:53.57 | blitzrage | I'd say you submit this to Mike et al and see if they even want anything more in depth |
| 20:54.22 | russellb | ok, cool, thanks for taking a look |
| 20:54.26 | blitzrage | np! |
| 20:54.29 | blitzrage | thanks for writing it |
| 20:54.39 | blitzrage | had a chance to check out the PDF of the 2nd edition yet? |
| 20:54.40 | russellb | np .. |
| 20:54.51 | russellb | just a little bit |
| 20:54.57 | russellb | i'm extremely impressed by the length! |
| 20:55.23 | russellb | anything else you need help with? :) |
| 20:55.36 | blitzrage | haha, well, its not really that many pages... you'll notice at the end the appencies are like 1 page for each reference |
| 20:55.46 | russellb | yeah, i did see that |
| 20:55.51 | russellb | wasn't sure if you were going to collapse them or not |
| 20:55.54 | russellb | SLA? :) |
| 20:55.56 | blitzrage | russellb: see chapter 4 if you know any configuration of phones off the top of your head |
| 20:56.02 | blitzrage | russellb: SLA would be AWESOME |
| 20:56.12 | blitzrage | you'll know it so well, and it'll help me out too! :) |
| 20:56.13 | russellb | yay! |
| 20:56.21 | blitzrage | and I think you'd have more fun writing it |
| 20:56.34 | blitzrage | I wrote a HUGE section on func_odbc :) |
| 20:56.44 | russellb | I have already written a couple things on it ... the PDF and the blog from a couple days ago |
| 20:56.47 | blitzrage | that'll come out in the next revision of the PDF |
| 20:57.05 | blitzrage | wicked, so you have a great start on it -- would just need some examples and such showing how to set it all up |
| 20:57.12 | russellb | right |
| 20:57.34 | russellb | that may be enough to where I should do docbook ... |
| 20:58.32 | blitzrage | possibly -- learning XXE will make things way easier, although Jared just uses vim, but it seems to be that waste a lot of time typing out tags and such, but to each their own |
| 20:58.56 | russellb | have you tried saving openoffice docs in docbook format? |
| 21:06.09 | blitzrage | can't say I have |
| 21:06.57 | russellb | k |
| 21:07.37 | russellb | well ... it seems to have frozen openoffice |
| 21:07.40 | russellb | so i don't recommend it :-p |
| 21:08.56 | blitzrage | lol |
| 21:10.43 | blitzrage | http://mail.google.com/mail/help/paper/more.html |
| 21:10.44 | brac | [About Gmail Paper] |
| 21:10.44 | blitzrage | too funny |
| 21:42.30 | blitzrage | russellb: thanks for the email! |
| 21:46.10 | russellb | noooo problem |
| 21:46.23 | russellb | i'll try to get on doing some review this week, too ... |
| 22:12.31 | russellb | blitzrage: btw, is this book going to be under the same license as the 1st edition? |
| 22:15.09 | blitzrage | russellb: yes, exact same license |
| 22:16.14 | blitzrage | russellb: and ya, some review would be awesome -- I'm going to get another PDF cut tomorrow I think |
| 22:16.21 | blitzrage | I understand you're busy though, so whatever you can contribute is greatly appreciated |
| 22:18.39 | russellb | and you rock for using that license ... very generous ... |
| 22:19.06 | blitzrage | thanks! :) |
| 22:19.17 | blitzrage | apparently it hasn't hurt sales at all, so O'Reilly is cool with it too |
| 22:19.22 | russellb | heh, sweet |
| 22:19.32 | blitzrage | in fact, it may have even helped for all I know |
| 22:20.08 | russellb | and it helps you in other ways ... I bet it gets you mad props for your consulting business |
| 22:20.17 | blitzrage | yah exactly |
| 22:20.31 | blitzrage | and public speaking things |
| 22:21.56 | russellb | We are hiring a guy out of college to come work in the dev team, he'll start when he graduates in May |
| 22:22.01 | blitzrage | nice! |
| 22:22.02 | russellb | he is working on learning Asterisk now as a head start |
| 22:22.12 | russellb | and he said your book has been his best reference for learning |
| 22:22.16 | blitzrage | apparently Digium is contributing a couple of chapters for AsteriskNOW and such too |
| 22:22.22 | blitzrage | really? that's fantastic |
| 22:22.29 | russellb | yup, I have been on some emails about that |
| 22:22.33 | blitzrage | I think this book should be quite a bit better in some of the areas we were weak in before |
| 22:22.53 | blitzrage | I still have some things in chapter 4 I need to update though |
| 22:23.07 | russellb | it's a ton of material, for sure ... |
| 22:23.32 | blitzrage | need to come up with some more examples of setting up connections with sip phones, service providers, and iax setups |
| 22:23.38 | brac | need to figure out what the jitterbuffer stats on a nuclear reactor |
| 22:23.40 | blitzrage | I also want to update the DUNDi stuff.... but not sure that is gonna happen :( |
| 22:24.19 | blitzrage | there's a ton of stuff to do :) |
| 22:24.58 | russellb | I'll do it!!!! |
| 22:25.00 | russellb | hehe |
| 22:25.01 | blitzrage | lol |
| 22:25.23 | blitzrage | I'd rather you made me dundi-multi, lol |
| 22:25.27 | russellb | lol |
| 22:25.29 | russellb | ok |
| 22:25.43 | russellb | i don't know what is taking me so long |
| 22:25.43 | blitzrage | I thought about another use for DUNDi today in my network |
| 22:25.50 | russellb | it's not going to be that hard |
| 22:25.52 | blitzrage | russellb: ummm... the 300 projects you have on the go? |
| 22:25.59 | russellb | oh, right, that's it |
| 22:26.01 | blitzrage | lol |
| 22:26.18 | blitzrage | did you see my question re: SUBSCRIBE and MWI the other day? |
| 22:26.19 | russellb | eh, I like it that way, though |
| 22:26.25 | blitzrage | foe sheezy -- you're a mad man |
| 22:26.26 | russellb | if i only did 1 at a time, i'd be bored out of my mind |
| 22:26.35 | blitzrage | yep, that's totally true |
| 22:26.40 | blitzrage | I'm kinda the same way |
| 22:26.42 | russellb | yeah, I did see that |
| 22:26.52 | blitzrage | I can't do the same thing all the time, which is why I've been doing book stuff this weekend instead of Mix stuff |
| 22:27.05 | blitzrage | I can't figure out why Asterisk won't reply to a SUBSCRIBE basically |
| 22:27.11 | blitzrage | it seems to be because the phone isn't registered |
| 22:27.16 | blitzrage | (to Asterisk) |
| 22:27.21 | russellb | yeah ... |
| 22:27.37 | russellb | if there isn't a matching peer for the subscribe, it won't reply |
| 22:27.45 | russellb | or won't accept |
| 22:28.14 | russellb | i'm not sure what the right answer is |
| 22:28.24 | blitzrage | I even "faked" a registration by putting in the host IP in the view for the sippeers in realtime, but because it didn't exist in the SIP/Registry in AstDB, it didn't want to have anything to do with it |
| 22:28.27 | russellb | because this seems like a SIP specific problem, and I"m not a SIP expert |
| 22:28.31 | blitzrage | fair enough |
| 22:28.45 | blitzrage | I think I gotta talk to oej about it and see why this doesn't work |
| 22:28.49 | russellb | cool |
| 22:29.08 | russellb | well, if I could understand the correct expected behavior, I could code it, heh |
| 22:29.28 | russellb | what if you define a peer for it that isn't dynamic? |
| 22:29.36 | blitzrage | I think I tried that too |
| 22:29.45 | russellb | seems like that should work .. |
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| 22:29.57 | blitzrage | seems like it, but the DEBUG seemed to be telling me it was looking for something in astdb |
| 22:30.02 | blitzrage | SIP/Registry specifically |
| 22:30.07 | russellb | hm |
| 22:30.30 | russellb | SIP proxies are weird ... |
| 22:30.32 | blitzrage | so I got Juggie to code "persistant MWI" which basically just sends a NOTIFY to all peers every checkmwi interval (obviously not ideal) |
| 22:30.36 | blitzrage | they sure are |
| 22:31.05 | russellb | well, I would think it would do that already |
| 22:31.14 | russellb | send the NOTIFY to all peers registered, and static peers |
| 22:31.21 | blitzrage | you'd think so... :) |
| 22:31.24 | russellb | if not ... then that's lame |
| 22:31.29 | blitzrage | only registered peers |
| 22:31.31 | blitzrage | not static |
| 22:31.34 | russellb | ugh, lame |
| 22:31.37 | blitzrage | here is the issue |
| 22:32.02 | blitzrage | it sends them when something changes in the VM -- but since it doesn't know when a peer registers, it can't send it then, thus, when a phone reboots, it gets no MWI until something changes in the mailbox |
| 22:32.59 | russellb | but if the SUBSCRIBE the phone sent made it to Asterisk when it boots, then it should ... |
| 22:32.59 | blitzrage | so I tried to get around it by making the phone send a SUBSCRIBE, which it does, but Asterisk replies with a 404 Not Found |
| 22:33.04 | brac | so I really think about it. |
| 22:33.09 | russellb | i see |
| 22:33.28 | blitzrage | which seems to be because the phone isn't reg'd directly to Asterisk |
| 22:35.14 | russellb | well let me look at the SUBSCRIBE handling code ... |
| 22:37.03 | blitzrage | basically what I did was in the view I am pointing extconfig.conf->sippeers to a view in my database, which then pulls the IP address from the location table (SER registration table), and takes the IP address the phone registered from and put it into the 'host' column for the sippeers so the peer appears as a static peer to Asterisk |
| 22:37.13 | blitzrage | which after all that, still replied with 404 Not Found, lol |
| 22:37.45 | russellb | ha, damn |
| 22:37.47 | russellb | well nice try :) |
| 22:37.50 | blitzrage | yah :) |
| 22:38.03 | blitzrage | so thus far, persistantmwi=yes is the only thing I seem to be able to do :) |
| 22:38.34 | russellb | i have thought about adding persistant subscriptions ... where subscriptions survive a restart of Asterisk |
| 22:38.43 | russellb | that has annoyed me far too many times while working on SLA |
| 22:39.06 | blitzrage | for sure... I haven't had a chance to play with SLA (yet) |
| 22:39.12 | russellb | it's all good |
| 22:39.25 | blitzrage | I will once I get this system up and running for Mix -- its a low priority feature for now |
| 22:39.29 | russellb | it's silly to use it unless you have a customer that requires it, heh |
| 22:39.56 | blitzrage | yah, I do have customers that can use it (vPBX system), but its low priority until the main system is up and running -- it'll be an addon feature we add after the fact |
| 22:40.17 | russellb | sweet |
| 22:40.28 | blitzrage | I got thinking today about setting up a pair of servers that are going to only run DUNDi for the most part and become my "routers" and direct calls to multiple clusters of computers |
| 22:40.29 | russellb | i have helped a lot of people by answering config questions |
| 22:40.35 | russellb | but haven't heard much feedback aside from that |
| 22:40.45 | blitzrage | must mean it works :) |
| 22:40.49 | russellb | i hope ... |
| 22:41.02 | blitzrage | well, when I get that far (a month I hope) you'll be the first to know :) |
| 22:41.09 | russellb | heh, cool |
| 23:11.52 | jsmith | Hey all... |
| 23:11.57 | blitzrage | jsmith: y0! |
| 23:16.49 | *** topic/#asterisk-doc by blitzrage -> ! |
| 23:16.54 | blitzrage | grrrrr |
| 23:17.01 | blitzrage | how the heck did I do that?! |
| 23:17.32 | blitzrage | does someone have the topic handy to change it back? |
| 23:18.35 | file | nosir |
| 23:25.53 | *** topic/#asterisk-doc by jsmith -> Welcome to the Asterisk Documentation Project / Idle Chat! --=-- Will work for money --==-- ISBN13: 9780596514051 --==-- http://digg.com/software/Asterisk_Users_Weekly_Friday_Conference_Podcast_at_12_30_PM_EDT --==-- Leif is a n00b |
| 23:26.30 | blitzrage | n00b? pffft... nub |
| 23:41.44 | jsmith | configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check |
| 23:41.44 | jsmith | See `config.log' for more details. |
| 23:44.29 | jsmith | Any idea what I'm doing wrong? |
| 23:44.43 | jsmith | I get that output from ./configure for Asterisk 1.4 branch from SVN |
| 23:47.25 | Juggie | exactally what it says |
| 23:47.32 | Juggie | i ran into the same problem. |
| 23:48.50 | Juggie | what was it for you? |
| 23:49.18 | jsmith | I thought gcc-g++ was installed, but it appears that it isn't. |
| 23:49.39 | Juggie | asterisk uses g++ now? :P j/k |
| 23:50.02 | jsmith | Yeah, the new Service Provider Edition was rewritten in C++ |
| 23:50.23 | jsmith | (because the garbage collector was in C++) |
| 23:50.33 | Juggie | well you said g++ |
| 23:50.40 | Juggie | which was the my joke |
| 23:50.44 | Juggie | isnt the package gcc-c++ |
| 23:51.18 | jsmith | Oh... yeah... just a typo on my part |
| 23:52.13 | blitzrage | Juggie: 2-2... we're lucky it's tied |
| 23:52.54 | blitzrage | I can't believe the 'Canes pulled out a win |
| 23:53.10 | blitzrage | although if we don't win our games, the 'canes aren't gonna matter any |
| 23:53.23 | blitzrage | it's basically down to the Leafs and Habs now |
| 23:55.25 | blitzrage | raptors up 82-71 with 11mins left... nice |
| 23:56.59 | Juggie | blitzrage, yah i know they were down 2-0 or 3-0 last i saw |
| 23:57.23 | blitzrage | 3-1 when I saw at first, then 3-2, then 3-3, then they won 3-4 in OT |
| 23:57.57 | Juggie | i fell asleep on the couch |
| 23:58.01 | Juggie | for like 2 hours |
| 23:58.07 | blitzrage | nice |
| 23:58.10 | blitzrage | Sunday naps are nice |
| 23:58.20 | Juggie | tired, hung over, etc. |
| 23:58.21 | blitzrage | I was on the couch earlier... didn't sleep though |
| 23:58.24 | blitzrage | yeppers |
| 23:58.39 | blitzrage | I had a beer around lunchtime, and just finished another now... that'll probably be it for the night |
| 23:59.32 | Juggie | i was just cleaning bottles, have like 10 dozen empties here |
| 23:59.42 | blitzrage | yah, that'll happen :) |