IRC log for #asterisk-doc on 20070607

00:44.50blitzrageyes sir
00:44.56blitzragethank you sir
00:44.59blitzragemay I have another
00:45.00file418!
00:45.03blitzrageholy crap
00:45.04blitzragenice moves
01:31.17jsmithYes?
01:31.58jsmithbe right back... gotta reboot the entire internet
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01:34.43jsmithfile: I'm back... did you need anything before I log off and crash?
01:35.22fileno, just checking
01:35.41filebe gone!
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13:01.42Juggieyay
13:01.51Juggiei got approved for another astricon trip, almost.
13:01.58Juggieone more person needs to approve because its US travel.
13:05.09jsmithw00t!
13:06.30Juggiei got 2hrs sleep last night
13:06.33Juggiei need a coffee IV today
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13:39.18blitzrageanyone know of a good image that'll do load balancing for the Soekris 4801?
13:41.07blitzragehrmmm... pfSense.org seems to have an image
13:41.11blitzragemight give that a try
13:43.44jsmithpfSense rocks
13:43.54blitzragegood to hear
13:44.08blitzragetrying to figure out how to get it on my soekris now :)
13:45.33Juggiecompact flash?  :)
13:45.45blitzragewell ya
13:46.01blitzrageI don't know if it's at easy as just "copying" it though
13:50.35Juggieof course not, its an image
13:50.41Juggieyou have to write it like you would write an image
13:53.00blitzrageright
14:12.50blitzrageyay, pfSense running on the soekris
14:12.51fileblitzrage: oh noes!
14:13.11blitzragewhich means I'm gonna bring my Internet down soon and plug Rogers into the Soekris instead of this linksys wifi router
14:36.15AlricWeird
14:36.24Alric09:38:29 (190.55 KB/s) - Read error at byte 12602385/17081631 (Invalid argument). Retrying.
14:36.39AlricGetting that via wget with downloading asterisk 1.4.4
14:39.14jsmithYouch
14:44.06Juggie07:43:39 (820 KB/s) - `asterisk-1.4.4.tar.gz.1' saved [17081631/17081631]
14:44.10Juggiesuggest new isp? :)
14:44.29AlricEverything else works fine :P
14:45.46Juggieerror between the user and keyboard? :)
14:45.49AlricWeird.
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14:46.06AlricIf I do a make clean on zaptel 1.4.2.1, make menuconfig and make install no longer work.
14:46.09jsmithWelcome back blitzrage
14:46.18jsmithAlric: Try a "make distclean" first
14:46.29AlricThought about that, but just nuked the whole folder.
14:46.36blitzragejsmith: thanks!
14:46.49jsmithw00t!
14:47.01blitzragenow I don't need to rely on my stupid Linksys WRT54G to do all my routing and DNS
14:47.45jsmithw00t!
14:47.56blitzrageaye aye!
14:47.59jsmithfile: You're awfully quiet this morning
14:48.04blitzragejust waiting for all my stuff to come back up on the network now
14:48.23blitzragenow I gotta test to see if I've screwed myself over for the conference call at 11am :)
14:49.47blitzragejsmith: mind if I call you to check bi-directional audio?
14:49.55blitzrageor you can jump onto 863 868 0202
14:49.59blitzragewhatever works for you
14:50.08jsmithYeah, I'll jump in
14:50.23blitzragecoolio
14:54.03fileI'm fighting with my Vista machine
14:54.13fileit refuses to install the driver for this USB flash drive
14:54.30AlricVista needs drivers for USB flash drives?
14:54.38AlricThat seems like a step in the wrong direction :(
14:54.55fileeverything requires drivers, it's just they are built in so you don't actually have to do anything
14:54.57blitzragedrivers? uhhhh.....
14:55.18AlricYes, but XP did all that invisibly to the end user.
14:55.23Alric(As does OS X...)
14:55.25filecorrect
14:55.30fileas does Vista, when it works
14:57.05Alricjsmith: What is that package thing that make menuselect requires to detect ODBC?
14:57.08Alricfor 1.4.x
14:57.44blitzrage"when it works" :)
14:57.51jsmithlibtool-ltdl-devel
14:57.55blitzragelibtools-lt...
14:58.00blitzragejsmith beat me :)
14:58.24Alricno match
14:58.35blitzragethis is on Fedora?
14:58.41AlricCentOS 4.5
14:59.29jsmithyum install libtool-\*
14:59.29Alricjust libtool got it.
14:59.49jsmithYeah, it's different on RHEL/Cent for some reason
15:03.10Juggiethere is something very satisfying about having your own 53gig centos 4.x/5.x mirror.
15:07.34blitzrageheh
15:08.42Juggie53158868        /var/www/html/centos
15:18.30blitzragejsmith: when the prompt in a queue is playing, (ex. "your estimated hold time is..."), if the member answers the call while that is playing, then both ends hear the recording, and it doesn't cut off. Any ideas?
15:18.42blitzrageCarrie just complained about that yesterday
15:18.47jsmithHuh?
15:19.08jsmithThe queue member should never hear that.  In fact, it won't send the call to the member until the prompt is done playing.
15:19.30jsmith(It's one of my pet peeves about the current app_queue)
15:20.31blitzrageya.... somehow Carrie was hearing the prompt when she answered....
15:20.34blitzrageI have no idea how
15:20.51blitzrageit seems like I've somehow figured out how though.... :)
15:21.02blitzrageit may be a feature... not a bug :D
15:22.54jsmithOh?
15:23.01jsmithEnlighten me, please :-)
15:23.04blitzrageya, I need to reproduce it
15:23.32blitzrageonce I do that, I'll let you know what is happening
15:26.52blitzrageok, I'm skipping breakfast and going right to lunch
15:26.54blitzrageback in a bit!
15:37.21fileaha
15:37.36fileit caches driver information and stuff... but the cache is corrupted...
15:39.34jsmithWhat caches?
15:40.19fileWindows Vista
15:40.49fileit was looking up the proper driver for my USB Flash drive in the cache, but the cache is corrupt so it failed
15:43.41jsmithAh...
16:15.01jsmith-lunchblitzrage: Did my test account on the new system get deleted again?
16:15.19blitzragejsmith-lunch: uhhh.... not sure
16:15.26blitzragejsmith-lunch: will check in just a second (nature calls)
16:16.06jsmith-lunchGot it
16:20.28blitzragejsmith-lunch: still looks setup...
16:20.42blitzrageand registered
16:20.47jsmith-lunchI'll try it again here in a minute then.
16:20.55jsmith-lunchThe client just tried to call it, and got a funny message.
16:21.05blitzragewhat msg?
16:23.10jsmith-lunch"The number or code you have dialed is incorrect...."  
16:23.21blitzragesounds like a telic issue
16:23.26blitzragedo you have Noel on your MSN ?
16:23.43jsmith-lunchNope.
16:23.56jsmith-lunchI've gotta run... be back in a few minutes
16:24.03blitzragenp -- msg'd it to you
16:45.49blitzrage[Jun  7 12:44:47] WARNING[498]: app_voicemail.c:1280 delete_file: SQL Execute error!
16:45.50blitzrage[DELETE FROM voicemessages WHERE dir=? AND msgnum=?]
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16:45.54blitzragewonder why I'm getting those....
16:55.08Juggiebecause app voicemail sucks
17:00.25blitzragesomething is wrong
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17:01.16blitzragejsmith-lunch: check this out....
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17:02.12jsmith-lunchOK, so far so good.
17:02.36blitzragelook again
17:02.45blitzragewhy would I get this:
17:02.50blitzrage<PROTECTED>
17:02.50blitzrage<blitzrage>     -- <Local/44-SIP-cturner#telcel@queue_members-89c8,1> Playing 'queue-less-than' (language 'en')
17:02.50blitzrage<blitzrage>     -- <Local/44-SIP-cturner#telcel@queue_members-89c8,1> Playing 'digits/2' (language 'en')
17:02.51blitzrage<blitzrage>     -- <Local/44-SIP-cturner#telcel@queue_members-89c8,1> Playing 'queue-minutes' (language 'en')
17:03.01blitzragethat is playing prompts to the member upon answering
17:03.04blitzragethat is not playing to the caller
17:03.20jsmith-lunchOK, here's what we have
17:04.10blitzrageQueue calls Local channel. Local channel calls Member (SIP/cturner#telcel)
17:04.17jsmith-lunchRight
17:04.32blitzrageUpon answer, a Macro(member_status) is called
17:04.52jsmith-lunchRight.
17:05.01blitzragebut why would the Queue think it should play those files to the Member upon answer?
17:05.45jsmith-lunchWell, there are two local channels in play here.
17:05.56jsmith-lunchOne ends in ,1 and the other in ,2
17:06.13jsmith-lunchSIP/cturner#blah is answering the ,2 call
17:06.21jsmith-lunchAsterisk is playing the prompts to the ,1 call
17:06.39blitzragehrmmm
17:06.48jsmith-lunchbe right back... lunch is done cooking
17:06.48blitzragewhich is probably the Queue->Local side of the conversation
17:06.56blitzrageand ,2 is the Local->SIP side
17:06.56jsmith-lunchProbably
17:07.23blitzrageso it's like the Queue() doesn't know the SIP channel answered
17:07.35blitzragebut why it would ever attempt to play a file to a Member boggles me still
17:07.43blitzrageon either side of the channel
17:08.11jsmith-lunchI'll bet it's the Macro that's messing it up.
17:08.32blitzragegrrrr
17:08.34jsmith-lunchWhich is probably why you should be using GROUP() and OUTBOUND_GROUP_ONCE
17:08.46jsmith-lunchInstead of messing with the macro and global variables
17:08.56jsmith-lunchbe right back
17:09.24blitzrageno, I need to set it in the DB for next time around
17:10.53blitzragemaybe it'll work if I put an Answer() in there or something....
17:26.06jsmithfile: Yes?
17:26.21filehave you (under 1.2) ever had regcontext work with realtime peers in SIP?
17:26.48blitzragenope
17:26.57blitzrageoh... i never tried it in 1.2
17:31.11jsmithWith realtime peers?  I've never tried
17:32.30fileand now they are telling me that qualify works without caching
17:37.49blitzrageseems slightly impossible... ?
17:38.22filejust a wee bitr
17:45.26blitzragecan you guys get to this page?   https://msors.mssociety.ca/bike2007/Sponsor.aspx?L=2&PID=967499
17:46.07blitzrageok cool -- pledge me $10 :)
17:47.50fileI need fooz
17:47.52fileand foodz
17:48.19blitzragejsmith: ping
17:48.26blitzragewanna call that DID to see if it hits Miami?
17:48.26fileis it... tax deductable?
17:48.31blitzragefile: yes it is!
17:48.36fileexcellent
17:48.41blitzrageso I've been told
17:48.55filenext time I go to the living room I will acquire my wallet
17:49.16blitzragemost excellent
17:49.19blitzragethx!
17:49.33jsmithblitzrage: Pong
17:49.38blitzragecalling now?
17:49.39jsmithJust called it twice, but I'll call again
17:49.46blitzrageok, pelase do
17:49.58jsmithring
17:50.02jsmithS.I.T.
17:50.09blitzrageok... it's a telic issue
17:50.09jsmith"We're sorry... this call cannot be completed as dialed"
17:50.14blitzrageget a hold of Stefan first please
17:50.17blitzrageNoel is annoying sometimes
17:50.22jsmithNoel says that DID isn't under the Sokol brand
17:50.24blitzrageStefan can look at the call records
17:50.27blitzragewtf
17:50.29blitzrageit was setup FINE
17:50.40blitzrageI hate, hate, hate, hate telic sometimes
17:51.11jsmithOh, and I pledged 20 dollars of that funny-money you guys use for your little bike tour
17:52.43blitzragejsmith: wooooooooooooohooooooooooooOOOOO!
17:52.50blitzrageI just got the email and was about to type out a THANK YOU!
17:54.17blitzrageback up to 1.0420
17:56.08jsmithWould I get larted if I said that a nice round 1.0 would be nice?
17:56.41fileblitzrage: there, money
17:57.00blitzrage~lart jsmith
17:57.00jbotfrags jsmith with his BFG9000
17:57.07blitzragefile: w000000t!
17:57.20filenow I can't afford lunch!
17:57.22filethe stuff I do for you...
17:57.42blitzragelol
17:57.50blitzragethanks file! I appreciate the sacrafice :)
17:57.59blitzrageAlric: pledge! :)
17:58.05Alricpledge?
17:58.11blitzrageactually don't, or I'll think I need to get you a wedding gift :)
17:58.23AlricOh, where do I pledge?
17:58.35AlricAnd where should I send your invitation?
17:58.53blitzrage1609-231 Fort York Blvd., Toronto, ON, Canada    M5V1B2 :)
17:59.06AlricIs that real? :P
17:59.11fileit is.
17:59.12AlricIt won't even get to you in time :(
17:59.21fileI've been there!
17:59.22fileit's horrible
18:00.12blitzragefile: shut it
18:00.14blitzrage:)
18:00.21blitzrageAlric: I don't think I can make it to Texas :)
18:00.23AlricApple needs to write an iMarry and iThankYou program :D
18:00.28blitzragehaha
18:00.34blitzrageI have 2 wedding to go to
18:00.44blitzrageoh shoot! that reminds me I gotta send those RSVPs back
18:00.45AlricAutomated invitations, and canned thank you cards :P
18:01.17blitzragewould be handy for RSVPs
18:01.22blitzrageand cheaper for you too :)
18:01.49AlricITs been a month since I graduated :D
18:02.42blitzragejsmith: what number were you calling from?
18:03.07blitzrageAlric: heh
18:03.11jsmithblitzrage: 5402862227
18:03.23blitzragethx
18:03.40Alricjsmith: Yeah :(
18:04.32blitzragejsmith: I think the Queue is doing what it should be doing
18:04.44blitzrage<PROTECTED>
18:04.44blitzragethat is checked
18:04.54blitzragemaybe the prompt it plays is just a bit confusing
18:05.13jsmithblitzrage: Oh!
18:05.29blitzragejsmith: ya, I just noticed that
18:05.31jsmithblitzrage: You have it telling the queue member how long the caller was on hold... gotcha
18:05.39blitzrageyep, I think that is the "issue"
18:05.45jsmithblitzrage: I always turn that off, because my clients use a wallboard to watch that
18:05.57blitzragebecause I was like.... how the hell can a member hear the prompt?
18:06.20filemagic.
18:06.58blitzragefile: woh! $30?!  you kick ass
18:07.14blitzrage25% raised!
18:08.20blitzragejsmith: www.opensourcesip.org  (Solegy/Telic softswitch is now opensource)
18:08.26fileI have two new UPSes, but I only know where I want to put one
18:08.29filewhat to do with the other...
18:08.38blitzragesend to me!
18:08.45fileyou can get your own
18:08.49blitzrageboooo
18:08.53file$59 with free shipping for a 750VA one
18:08.55jsmithblitzrage: License?
18:08.56blitzragelink/
18:09.05blitzragejsmith: no license required anymore apparently
18:09.26filehttp://accessories.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=ca&l=en&s=dhs&cs=cadhs1&sku=A0379660
18:09.42blitzragehow long does that last for a standard 400w power supply?
18:09.46blitzrage(i.e. desktop computer)
18:10.01jsmithblitzrage: No, is it under the GPL, BSD license, or what?
18:10.02file30 mins probably
18:10.17blitzragejsmith: oh, sorry, not too sure to be honest
18:10.20blitzragefile: that's not too shabby
18:10.24blitzrageya, says up to 38mins
18:10.45blitzragehrmmmmm
18:10.45fileI run my core networking off a 550VA one right now, rated for not that long... but it has kept a few things up for over an hour
18:10.49jsmithOpenSIPStack is released under the MPL 1.0 License.
18:11.05jsmithAre you running nut?
18:11.07jsmithIf so...
18:11.16jsmithfile: Is the MPL something we can link against?
18:11.21blitzragethey probably can't use GPL because they probably want to be able to link some proprietary stuff back into it
18:11.24fileI doubt it
18:11.34blitzragelike the SOAP interface
18:11.40filealthough asking me is dangerous
18:12.19blitzragenice!
18:12.23blitzragewhen is that being rolled out?
18:12.38filedunno yet
18:13.56jsmithblitzrage: So, about this DID...
18:14.14blitzrageworking on it with Stefan
18:14.26blitzragegetting anything new?
18:14.52jsmithring
18:15.01jsmithS.I.T.
18:15.07jsmithSame as before
18:15.43blitzragehrmmm
18:15.45blitzrageSIT?
18:16.00jsmith"Special Information Tone"
18:16.08blitzragelike... fast busy?
18:16.16jsmithi.e. the three toned "do-dee-dah" sound that the number has been disconnected
18:16.23blitzrageoh joy
18:16.33blitzragesounds like a provider issue almost then
18:16.41blitzragemight not even be hitting telic
18:16.51jsmithThat's what I've been trying to explain to Noel
18:17.41blitzrageugh
18:17.54blitzrageI'll talk to Stefan about it in a second
18:25.31blitzrageok, sounds like somehow a prefix got added to the front of the DID (how the hell this happens, is beyond me)
18:25.43blitzrageso Stefan told Noel about it, and I've asked for an update
18:25.49ctooleyblitzrage, are you a Toothpaste For Dinner reader?
18:26.08blitzragecan't say I am
18:26.31blitzragehow goes your wifes(?) paper?
18:26.39ctooleyhttp://www.toothpastefordinner.com
18:26.51ctooleytoday's is especially good for her paper.
18:27.08ctooleyI think I might have her insert it as a graphic in the powerpoint that accompanies the business plan.
18:27.37blitzragehehehe
18:27.47blitzrageI agree :)
18:42.09ctooleyfile, how far away do you think 1.4.5 is?
18:42.35ctooleyblitzrage, don't start reading the archives, they'll end up sucking away your day.
18:43.03fileyes.
18:43.24ctooleyfile, that was directed at me?
18:43.25jsmithctooley: Less than 6 months...
18:43.29fileyes.
18:43.42ctooleyjsmith, Well, that's good news, I can relay that to my boss. :)
18:44.48jsmithctooley: Sorry, I'm just being silly.... just ignore me
18:45.10blitzragectooley: probably once 9235 gets resolved
18:45.24fileI can't give you a time or date or how long
18:45.27jsmithAnd once the SIP hanging bugs are all fixed
18:45.28filenobody can, it depends
18:45.59blitzragejsmith: that's what the bug number was :)
18:46.27jsmithOh... great minds think alike...
18:46.28ctooleyfile, yeah, but you could probably give a better estimate (it's frozen, maybe a month out, 4-6 months) than me.
18:46.29blitzragejsmith: routing issue in telic it looks like... still waiting on Noel to fix it... sorry :(
18:46.34blitzragejsmith: indubitably!
18:46.50blitzrage4-6 weeks :)
18:47.07blitzragethat's usually Russell's job
18:47.19blitzragehe was gonna release one last week until I told him about that bug
18:47.34blitzrageI told him it'd probably be in his best interest to not release until that bug was resolved :)
18:47.41Alricbug? What bug!
18:47.49blitzragebugs are only in your mind
18:48.37ctooleyand in the jar that my kids put them in.
18:48.47jsmithfireflies!
18:48.50jsmithbutterflies!
18:48.54jsmithand cockroaches!
18:49.11filehrm...
18:49.17ctooley"wightning bugs"
20:31.33blitzragejsmith: try your DID again pls
20:33.21jsmithw00t!
20:33.26jsmithSo, what was the hangup?
20:33.52jsmithThe client isn't inclined to use them for their actual service if it takes that long to fix silly problems :-(
20:34.25blitzrageyep -- seriously... call Louie up and bitch at him that Noel is screwing up the routing in the SS
20:34.27blitzragebecause that is 3 times now
20:34.50blitzragewhich is why I almost wanna setup my own softswitch and be in control of the routing there myself
20:34.57blitzrageat least I know I can fix it myself, and that it won't get screwed up
20:35.06filethese are times I'm glad I don't deal with that stuff anymore
20:35.12blitzrageI mean... he's been doing it for 3 years... I don't understand how you still screw that up
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22:59.21fileI hate AVS credit card checks that are too...
22:59.24filestrict
23:01.10filejsmith: :(

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