IRC log for #asterisk-doc on 20070703

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13:07.45ctooleymorning
13:08.12filemoo
13:22.12ctooleymoo back at you
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14:05.58jsmithSo, I'm online again... finally
14:06.31filewhat was the issue?
14:06.35jsmithIt only took three Sprint stores, 4 phone calls, and a two-hour drive (followed by a 2-1/2 hour wait) to get it working again
14:06.39jsmithMy stupid EVDO connection
14:06.47fileeep
14:06.49filewhat was wrong with it?
14:06.56ctooleyjsmith, probably plugged his EVDO card into 220V power
14:06.57ctooley:)
14:07.22jsmithctooley: 220, 221, whatever it takes...
14:07.26fileoverusage probably
14:08.02jsmithNope.
14:08.13jsmithProblem with my EVDO router not downloading the PRL updates
14:09.10jsmithSo yesterday morning, my card decided that the PRL list was too far out of date, and just stopped working.
14:10.19fileO.o
14:11.08jsmithIt's working again, but I may go get them to replace the card with something newer... try to get a little bit more speed out of the system
14:11.14ctooleyjsmith, well... quit ignoring the update requests. :)
14:11.48jsmithctooley: Here's the thing... the updates only get pulled if you're running the card in Windows, and using their Windows driver.  I refuse.
14:11.58jsmith(Besides, Windows won't run on my PowerBook anyway)
14:12.16ctooleyjsmith, well, then you're probably violating their ToS
14:12.18jsmithSo it just means I've gotta pop the card in somebody's Windows box every few months
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14:12.27jsmithctooley: Nope, I'm not... I asked.
14:12.41ctooleyjsmith, :)
14:12.55jsmithctooley: They fully support what I'm doing... with the caveat that I have to manually upgrade the PRL list on a Windows box every few months
14:16.14ctooleyjsmith, Verizon supports Linux too.  Their cards pull the updates in the background into the firmware.
14:16.57jsmithctooley: Yeah, and Verizon has awful bandwidth limits, and completely blocks VoIP
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14:19.14filehaylo blitzrage
14:19.24blitzrageohio file!
14:20.15blitzrageheh
14:28.30Alricjsmith: I run XP on my Macbook Pro since Saturday.
14:28.47AlricSince then, 1 Blue Screen of Death, and plenty of crapatistical problems and stuff OS X never has.
14:29.09AlricI know.
14:30.14jsmithIf only....
14:31.51AlricI love my Macbook Pro.
14:32.15AlricExcept when its running XP and spontaneously screws up.  But thats more a Windows thing than a Mac thing.  Its not the Mac's fault I have to run a crap OS.
14:41.00blitzrageAlric: XP never crashes for me
14:41.04blitzragemust be your hardware
14:41.11Alricroflmao
14:41.18AlricYep, thats gotta be it *roll*
14:41.39blitzrageor maybe it's a layer 8 problem
14:41.47AlricIt crashed while I was asleep.
14:41.53AlricSo I don't see how I could have done it.
14:42.05blitzrage*shrugs*
14:42.18blitzragedoesn't crash for me on my PC when using Quickbooks
14:42.41blitzrageanyways, off to make green tea and enter my copy edit into an email
14:44.09AlricSome people are blessed I guess.
14:44.14AlricNo XP has ever worked well for m.
14:44.15Alricme*
14:52.12blitzrageI've never had a problem with it... to each their own
14:54.19filethere he is...
15:17.10JuggieAlric, not to defend windows or anything
15:17.23Juggiebut i cant remember when i last saw xp crash
15:17.38AlricYou aren't around XP much are you? ;)
15:17.48Juggiethats where your wrong
15:17.53Juggiei have 3 dif xp machines @ work
15:18.14Juggieso, i would blame some crappy driver you have on your system most likely.
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15:24.12HENIINFOsalut tous le monde
15:24.44blitzragebonjour!
15:25.11HENIINFOje suis nv sur mirc
15:25.24blitzragesorry, never used mirc... I use xchat
15:25.33blitzrage(well, I've used mirc... but ya :))
15:25.50HENIINFOet je cherche à me connecter à salon de arsterisk
15:26.04blitzrageahhh, you need to register your name
15:26.14blitzrage<PROTECTED>
15:26.42blitzragethen when you connect next time, just type: /msg nickserv identify <password>
15:26.44HENIINFOcomment
15:26.46blitzrage<PROTECTED>
15:26.54blitzrageor /msg nickserv help register
15:29.42HENIINFOsi tu peux me donner la ligne exacte
15:31.18Juggiefile, you around?
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15:31.26fileyes
15:31.50Juggiethat READ() problem on the bug tracker, did you solve that?
15:31.55fileno
15:32.07Juggiestill waiting for the dtmf debug?
15:32.15fileI added extra debugging information to 1.4 and trunk when dtmf emulation occurs
15:32.19filewhich is what is causing the issue
15:32.41Juggieic, in what scenario does DTMF emulation occur?
15:32.53fileif you enable it in sip.conf, rfc2833compensate=yes
15:33.02Juggieis it enabled by default?
15:33.04fileor use a technology that doesn't have begin/end events for DTMF
15:33.05fileno
15:33.10filemost situations does not require it
15:33.21Juggieok, so, pri for example should not be affected at all.
15:33.42Juggie(a call pri<->sip
15:33.43Juggie)
15:34.00filethe inband detector does begin/end events
15:34.11Juggieah, ok.
15:34.20Juggieso, depends on if you use inband or out of band signaling.
15:34.21Juggiegotcha.
15:34.47Juggiedid you get your subway card yet?
15:34.55fileyes, I have one
15:35.08Juggiethats the one i can refil online right?
15:35.09jsmithfile: You haven't sent me the number
15:36.09Juggiejsmith, it would appear you need to create a account
15:36.40Juggieso file should change his pw to something dumb and then give it to me me and jsmith
15:36.43fileI have an account, I'm just tweaking it
15:37.24Juggiethe only way to load it is to let us login i guess.
15:37.53fileEmail: jcolp@joshua-colp.com Pass: asterisk
15:38.00Juggiejsmith, me first.
15:38.27jsmithJuggie: Be my guest
15:38.43filefight fight fight
15:39.05Juggieyou havnt had subway in 7days!
15:39.07Juggieegad.
15:39.43fileI haven't used the card yet
15:39.45fileI keep forgetting it
15:44.14Juggiegrr
15:44.16Juggiehad to load it twice
15:44.27Juggiepage refreshed because imissed something, and then i accidentally put 5$ on
15:44.35Juggieanyways, i added some $$..
15:44.53file$$ = good
15:45.19Juggienext time i ask a question no matter how stupid it is, be sure to answer nicely :)
15:45.33Juggieo ya, wtf is going on with my bug tracker license.
15:45.57filethe person who does that is gone till Thursday
15:46.28Juggiegrrr
15:46.30Juggieits annoying
15:46.37Juggiei posted a patch but it cant be seen
15:46.46filenothing we can do
15:47.06Juggiedid i just waste my question w/ a nice answer? :P
15:47.20fileyes :P
15:47.25Juggiedammit
15:47.27Juggie:>
15:48.03fileYour current question balance: 9
15:48.29Juggiehahah
15:48.33Juggiethats a good value
15:48.43Juggie25$ for 10 questions is fair.
15:52.08Juggiefile, google purchasing 'grand central' makes me cry
15:52.16filewhyso?
15:52.20Juggieany of us could of done that service w/ asterisk
15:52.34Juggieof course, the only problem is the up front capital to get the did's.
15:55.56fileDonald!
16:04.32blitzragesomeone give me an address that'll actually work on this subway card reload (apparently I'm not in their DB or something)
16:04.36blitzrageI keep getting errors!
16:05.38blitzrageoh there we go
16:05.45blitzrageapparently putting 1609-231 doesn't work
16:08.19Juggieya, it needs to match exactaly
16:08.50Juggiefile will get a call soon asking if he is using stolen credit cards to refil his subway card :)
16:10.48fileI was just thinking that
16:14.56blitzrage:D
16:41.48blitzrageregistertimeout is in milliseconds, right?
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16:48.05filejsmith_: wb
17:02.45blitzrageSRV just means Service right?
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17:48.08blitzrageoh joy... I love when they test the fire alarm....
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18:26.07Juggie#asterisk is worse and worse lately
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18:33.29blitzrageno kidding
18:33.49blitzragepeople go in asking for answers, you give them the answer, then they basically tell you you're stupid and they CAN do it
18:34.01blitzragein which case I wonder why they even asked the question in the first place
18:48.53Juggietoday i tried to help someone, he didnt even listen
18:49.02Juggiejust talked to someone else who had no idea what they were talking about either
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19:01.48AlricAh.
19:02.03Alric30 minutes later, XP is done installing updates so it won't be compromised in 8 minutes.
19:04.49Juggiewell, its not usually wise to connect any os un-firewalled to the internet
19:05.05Juggieif you have any kind of router at all you should be protected from most stuff
19:05.44AlricYeah, I'm not too terribly worried.
19:05.48AlricBut updates are annoying.
19:07.07Juggieosx doesnt get updates>?
19:08.11Juggiei just ran yum update on a box i updated like 1-2 months ago
19:08.14Juggieand it had 185 updates.
19:08.20AlricNot high-priority-do-this-or-your-machine-will-get-compromised-by-the-newest-exploit updates.
19:08.30AlricHAsn't there been a minor revision release since then though?
19:08.36Juggieyeah
19:08.38Juggie4.4 -> 4.5
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20:54.31blitzragejsmith: ping?!
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