IRC log for #asterisk-doc on 20070717

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00:27.03AlricWeird.
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13:57.19fileblitzrage: ??!??
13:57.26blitzragefile: !!?!!
13:59.49AlricThats what I get for skimming UPGRADES.txt
14:01.50filewhat t'was it?
14:12.24blitzrageoh joy... I don't think queue members are going to be able to do a transfer because it uses a Local channel, and not chan_agent or anything
14:12.27blitzragefuck
14:13.22AlricCLID and ANI don't match anymore.
14:13.34AlricAnd boss grilled me about his call reports not working.
14:13.45Alric(Which want CLID and ANI to be, you guessed it, matching)
15:02.01Juggiesigh
15:02.06Juggie#asterisk gets dumber every day
15:30.25blitzrageno kidding
15:30.45blitzrageI have to get out of that room sometimes or else I'd end up yelling at people to stop being so dumb and start thinking
15:31.09Juggiei need you to link 10213 & 10210
15:32.03blitzragesure
15:32.07Juggiethanks
15:32.08blitzrageyou can't do that?
15:32.14Juggieno
15:32.16Juggiei'm not a bug marshall
15:32.21blitzrageah
15:32.25blitzrageI thought everyone could do that :)
15:32.29blitzragejust set them related?
15:33.43blitzragedone
15:35.33Juggieyeah, thanks.
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17:03.45fileI'm almost done something you'll probably like...
17:03.49blitzragehoi hoi
17:03.49fileand perhaps you blitzrage
17:03.57blitzrageo.O
17:04.22jsmithfile: Oh?
17:23.34Juggiehow about me?
17:25.39filesoon...
17:25.45fileit's nothing really big
17:25.59Juggiefile is it connection threading for chan_sip, like chan_iax? :)
17:26.01blitzrageI'm just curious :)
17:26.06Juggiecuz that would be hawt
17:26.29fileit is not.
17:27.04Juggiedamn :(
17:28.24filethat should do it...
17:29.21fileit's not immensely exciting
17:29.44Juggieyou've got us all worked up here josh
17:29.49blitzragemaybe you shouldn't have built up all this excitement then
17:29.55fileI just created the branch...
17:30.06filemaybe you should all be in #asterisk-commits
17:30.38file(CIA already spit out the commit, so you are too late now for that...)
17:30.48blitzrageboo
17:30.55fileindeed
17:30.55fileimmense boo
17:31.05blitzrageI can see it there
17:31.14blitzrageyes... I use gnome, but I like kmail as a client
17:31.30Juggieblitzrage, that patch in 10209 might actually help with alot of things
17:31.40blitzragea lot* :)
17:31.41Juggieanywhere that used ast_check_hangup was not working 100%
17:31.49blitzragevery nice
17:31.50Juggienow it is, so it may fix some hung channels, etc.
17:31.55blitzragewicked
17:31.58blitzragegood to know
17:32.26Juggiepossibly, i havnt looked @ every call to ast_check_hangup obviously, but it could solve a number of problems :()
17:33.07Juggieastdb-sqllite is that what your talking about? :P
17:33.11fileyes :P
17:33.37Juggienice, i suggest you just remove the old one in trnk :)
17:34.16Juggieit would be even cooler if astdb could use any sql database :)
17:35.45Juggieblitzrage, hehe, check out my bug note :)
17:36.01blitzrage:)
17:36.22blitzrageJuggie: lol
17:37.36Juggie:)
17:37.53blitzragecool... looks like Asterisk is getting STUN support
17:38.42Juggiestun sucks
17:42.44blitzrageheh
17:42.45blitzrageaye
17:43.03fileI found it sort of cool you can turn the sqlite3 source into a single C file
17:45.59Juggiei can say i've never ever used it
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18:02.35jsmithblitzrage, file, Juggie: What's up with all this common sense breaking out in Canadia? http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/07/canadians_are_a.html
18:02.39brac[Schneier on Security: Canadians Are Allowed to Say "Bomb" in Airports]
18:03.03Juggiejsmith, we've allways had common sense
18:03.27Juggiecanada surely isnt on threat level orange!!!!!
18:03.34jsmithThen why do you still have the queen on your money?
18:03.37Juggieand the goverment doesnt spread fear :)
18:04.31Juggiethe queen is still officially the head of state
18:05.25jsmithSo you guys acknowledge that you still belong to the British empire, but they don't admit to owning you?
18:05.43jsmithSounds like lots of common sense to me ;-)
18:06.10Juggiewe are former members of the british Commonwealth :)
18:07.14Juggieshe is head of the commonwealth and Queen of every country in it
18:08.04Juggiehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Nations#Current_members
18:10.42Juggiejsmith, how many kids do you have?
18:11.13Juggietheres a follow up question :)
18:11.17jsmithJuggie: I have two kids... an eight-year-old son and a five-year-old daughter
18:11.36Juggiehow much does going to the hospital to have a kid cost? presuming its not covered under insurance?
18:11.49jsmithInteresting... what did Canadians have on their money before 1931?
18:12.11jsmithJuggie: It's covered under insurance... but if it weren't, it depends on any complications, etc.
18:12.34jsmithJuggie: My son was pretty cheap... my daughter was *very* expensive
18:13.32Juggiecan you ballpark it, i'm just curious
18:13.41Juggiegiven that we never have to pay a cent up here, you know in the queens land.
18:14.20jsmithMy son probably cost around $2500 altogether... my daugher (and the associated care for my wife) was probably in the range of $200,000.
18:14.33fileeep
18:14.51Juggiewell its a good thing you have insurance... but consider many unfortunate people who dont.
18:15.04Juggiethey should be given the same care :)
18:15.10jsmithThey are.
18:15.12Juggieregardless lets not make this channel political.
18:15.27jsmithHospitals are required to give the same care, regardless of the abililty to pay
18:15.41jsmithIn the case of my daughter, I didn't have insurance
18:15.55jsmithAnd I was out of work at the time
18:15.56Juggiebut they obviously want their money back
18:16.09jsmithThe hospital wrote the whole thing off
18:16.57Juggiehrmf, intreasting
18:17.43jsmithYeah... in my case, it ended up being better *not* to have insurance.
18:17.52jsmithNow, I realize that mine was a special case...
18:18.46jsmithSo, to get away from the political mess I've gotten myself into... I'm asking in all seriousness -- what did Canada do before it joined the commonwealth?
18:19.37Juggiecanada has been its own country since 1967
18:19.39Juggieer, 1867
18:20.00jsmithInteresting...
18:20.20Juggiebefore that, there were around 100 years of being part of britan
18:20.31Juggiewell, at least under british control
18:20.35jsmithSo until 1867 it was a British colony, then it was independent until 1931, then it became semi-independent
18:20.49jsmithI never knew... see, you learn something new every day]
18:20.54filelies
18:20.59jsmithOh?
18:21.03Juggiecanada has been independant since 1867
18:21.29Juggie1931 is when the term the commonwealth was coined and hence created
18:21.48Juggieit is made up of countries which were formerly under british control
18:21.57jsmithRight...
18:22.17jsmithBut if the British monarch is officially the leader of your country, how can you say you're independent?
18:22.43Juggiebecause its just done for historical reasons
18:22.45Juggieit has no meaning
18:23.04Juggieshe is the queen yes
18:23.13Juggiebut that doesnt give her any power over the country.
18:23.46jsmithI see... so the worst she can do is suspend your status in the Commonwealth?
18:23.57Juggieyes
18:24.05Juggiewhich is a volontary organization
18:24.10jsmithShe can't do anything official like change the color of the Mounty uniforms?
18:24.17Juggiehah, no :)
18:25.49Juggieit is purely symbolic
18:25.53Juggiethats the word i was looking for :)
18:26.29Juggieof you are really curious, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debate_on_the_Canadian_monarchy
18:29.10Juggiejsmith, i guess you got very lucky with the 200,000 bill being forgotten.
18:31.05jsmithYes, very lucky
18:36.44blitzrageJuggie: we didn't actually have our own official passports until around 1952 though. Before that we still traveled as British subjects
18:38.32Juggiethats ok, my grandparents wernt even canadian citizens until they were like 20-30
18:38.59Juggieactually, probally 15-20
18:39.20blitzrageya exactly
18:39.43Juggiewell, thats because newfoundland wasnt a province until 1949
18:39.48Juggiebefore that it was just the country of newfoundland
18:40.26Juggieblitzrage, could you change 10210 to ready for testing plz.
18:40.54blitzragedone
18:41.07Juggieoh, assign it to russel too :)
18:41.24Juggieer, russell
18:41.25blitzrage:)
18:41.54blitzragethere we go
18:42.00Juggiesweet, i know he'll appreciate that :)
18:42.03blitzrage:)
18:51.57blitzrageno way
19:05.24blitzrageget outta my personal space! :)
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19:41.01blitzragebastard
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20:13.20blitzrageSo the Queue() application won't fall through to the next priority if it decides there is no one available to answer (it just hangs up), but with the 'n' option, the behaviour has changed in that with round-robin it exits the Queue() after the first caller doesn't answer
20:19.32jsmithHuh?
20:19.36jsmithQueue() should never just hang up.
20:19.48jsmithAt least, I don't remember there being a case where it simply hangs up
20:22.44blitzrageit just did
20:22.58blitzragewithout the 'n' option
20:23.10blitzrageafter the first member didn't answer (timeout value), it just dropped my call
20:23.29blitzragesorry... WITH the 'n' option
20:23.37blitzrageM10127
20:23.39MuffinMan[closed] [Asterisk] Applications/app_queue 0010127: Queue timeouts are considerably higher than expected reported by bcnit  http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=10127
20:23.41blitzragethis changed the behaviour I think
20:24.18blitzragewait I was wrong (again)
20:24.28blitzragelet me figure out how I did that again
20:25.09blitzrageya... with 'n', it returns from the Queue() after the first member doesn't answer
20:25.14blitzragewhich isn't how it worked before...
20:25.20blitzrageit should go through all the members at least once
20:25.29blitzrageat least that's expected behaviour
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20:28.20blitzrageno kidding
20:28.56AlricUnless that got deprecated too :D
20:30.04blitzragejsmith: yep... it does just drop the call
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20:30.25blitzragetampa15*CLI> show queues
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20:31.09blitzragewithout the 'n' option... the Queue() just drops... fun stuff
20:31.41jsmithStrange...
20:31.48jsmithAnd you have a priority 12?
20:31.57Juggieblitzrage, is this with any of todays patches?
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20:32.20blitzrageexten => new,n,Queue(${MY_QUEUE})
20:32.20blitzrageexten => new,n,Verbose(1|Queue is FULL or we returned from Queue)
20:32.20blitzrageexten => new,n,GoSub(sub-no_answer,s,1(QUEUE,${Q_ID}))
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20:32.45blitzrageJuggie: with todays patches... but don't know that they are really the issue... I think someone changed app_queue on me
20:32.52blitzrageI know M10127 probably changed the way 'n' works
20:34.23Juggieya true
20:34.32Juggiebecause queue should never exit until it hit all agents onnce
20:34.35blitzragewith 'n' it just exits after the first peer doesn't exit
20:34.38blitzrageya...
20:34.46Juggieand my patches woudnt affect anything until queue exited anyways
20:34.48Juggieso its un-related
20:34.52blitzrageya that's what I figured
20:35.51jsmithDo you have "joinempty" or "leavewhenempty" set?
20:36.22jsmithObviously you don't have a timeout on your queue...
20:36.40jsmithI'd be interested to see the SIP traffic when it says SIP/u302#xfertest-blah is ringing
20:41.50blitzrageprobably leavewhenempty... but the queue isn't empty
20:42.53jsmithCan you do a SIP debug and see what's happening between the time u302 starts ringing and the call gets hung up?
20:44.54blitzragesure
20:46.56blitzrage...
20:46.57blitzrage[Jul 17 16:46:13] WARNING[22669]: channel.c:2732 ast_prod: Prodding channel 'SIP/ss1tampa.mixnetworks.com-0992c720' failed
20:47.11blitzragejsmith: you wanna jump on tampa15 into the screen session?
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20:47.23blitzragethen you can see what it did... but I don't see anything really wrong with the SIP msgs
20:47.36jsmithblitzrage: I can't right now, but maybe later.
20:47.37blitzrageseems to just be random almost that Asterisk cuts off the audio and drops the incoming call
20:47.40blitzrageok cool
20:47.45jsmithblitzrage: I'm on a call, plus trying to fix two other fires
20:47.51blitzragethat's fine
22:26.01fileblitzrage: what did you do!
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