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| 14:55.16 | blitzrage | Alric: ping? |
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| 18:13.39 | Alric | blitzrage: Ping? |
| 18:13.46 | blitzrage | Alric: pong |
| 18:14.14 | Alric | So I'm recording all calls in and out of a PBX. |
| 18:14.59 | Alric | Storing the filename as uniqueid, then looking at the CDRs to attribute that call to different parties (like Sammy at 101 called Jim at 102 at 1:39pm) kind of thing. |
| 18:17.08 | Alric | Usually things work fine, but there are some cases where the CDRs can't help me track every step of the call, so I'm coming back to the dialplan to look for my answers. Done anything like this before? |
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| 18:41.17 | blitzrage | Alric: ya..... and it was a bitch... |
| 18:41.27 | blitzrage | I had to create an AGI that executed in the 'h' exten |
| 18:41.34 | Alric | Wow. |
| 18:42.09 | Alric | I have 3 polycoms. 1 calls 2, 2 attended transfers to 3, speaks, then transfers. 1 and 3 talk, hang up. I get 4 CDR records :D |
| 18:42.09 | blitzrage | did you get spandsp working? were you using it for faxing? |
| 18:42.57 | Alric | I was using it for faxing though. Still sitting on a 1.2 box that I want to upgrade. |
| 18:43.04 | blitzrage | gotcha -- yours might not be as much of a pain because I was doing more than just associating it with a CDR -- I was mixing the files, and putting them into a DB too |
| 18:43.14 | Alric | Well, thats not all. |
| 18:43.42 | Alric | Say 101 calls 102, 102 does an attended transfer to 103, speaks, then transfers. |
| 18:44.03 | Alric | Ideally that should produce 3 recording files. 101->102, 102->103 while attended, and then 101->103. |
| 18:44.13 | blitzrage | oh ya -- I haven't even tested that part out of the recording part yet -- I think it stops recording after the transfer because the first leg was hung up... but I have no idea.... |
| 18:44.30 | blitzrage | ya... that's not a simply thing for you to be working on... :) |
| 18:45.13 | Alric | Pretty much. |
| 18:45.52 | blitzrage | simple* |
| 18:46.33 | blitzrage | I need to figure out why this TDM400P won't get detected in my desktop. I wanna plug my home line into it to screen calls and add some logic (plus I have no voicemail :)) |
| 18:46.41 | file | PCI 2.2? |
| 18:46.41 | blitzrage | SIT tone... try out faxing for fun, etc... |
| 18:46.51 | blitzrage | should be -- it's an AMD Sempron |
| 18:46.56 | blitzrage | so it's reasonably new |
| 18:47.03 | blitzrage | I think I have too many cards in that machine |
| 18:47.09 | blitzrage | or maybe it slipped out |
| 18:47.17 | blitzrage | might not be seated correctly for all I know |
| 18:47.26 | file | are YOU seated correctly? |
| 18:47.26 | blitzrage | ya, I use MixMonitor() too |
| 18:47.34 | blitzrage | file: not really.. but I never sit correctly |
| 18:47.46 | Alric | This is odd. |
| 18:48.01 | file | I'm contemplating a basic app_dial replacement... HRM! |
| 18:48.02 | Alric | http://www.pastebin.ca/667124 |
| 18:48.06 | Alric | blitzen: check that out |
| 18:48.35 | Alric | That is the CDR output from 1046 calling 1047, 1047 attended transfer to 1048, talking, then transfer 1046 to 1048. |
| 18:49.35 | Alric | (Well, condensed a little bit. Didn't select all of the fields) |
| 18:50.14 | ctooley | Alric, that looks... wrong. |
| 18:50.38 | Alric | :) |
| 18:51.05 | ctooley | I especially like the incorrect src/dst fields. At least with that many CDRs I would expect those to be correct. |
| 18:51.13 | Alric | Yeah :( |
| 18:52.56 | Alric | hehe |
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| 19:02.16 | blitzrage | codefreeze is da CDR man |
| 19:08.21 | ctooley | You guys done anything at all with the SIP Servlet Containers? I'm mostly interested in finding an alternative to WeSIP |
| 19:12.44 | Alric | Ok, so Monitor() works from the point of view of the channel rather than the ambiguous term "call" :D |
| 19:25.12 | codefreeze | anyone need help with cdrs? |
| 19:26.35 | ctooley | I am so happy that our CDRs are in a nice universal format. 1 format for each of our 12 different CDR generating systems gets munged into a single UCDR format which is thankfully... completely worthless. |
| 19:27.11 | codefreeze | It's nice to meet a man who appreciates CDR's. |
| 19:27.17 | Alric | codefreeze: Just poking around at CDRs. |
| 19:29.31 | ctooley | If we had CDR problems like the Asterisk CDR problems I think I would laugh. We have a team of 4 people writing applications merge our CDR formats. It's going miserably. Especially the part where individual CDRs from different platforms overlap and have to be merged into a unified CDR. |
| 19:29.58 | ctooley | I'm not saying the CDR problems in Asterisk are easy by any means, I wouldn't want to take on that job you've taken on. |
| 19:30.33 | ctooley | At least there's a way to fix the generation of those CDRs though, our problem is that we have to take what we're given and "figure it out". |
| 19:31.44 | Alric | I was originally just working on a method of making sure call recordings got properly marked, etc based upon what was actually being recorded, which led into the problem I pastebin'ed about the CDR transfer thing. |
| 19:32.36 | codefreeze | ctooley: before I say anything more, I'd like to first mention that I respect your position, and I fully feel and understand the difficult tasks you face. And I really, really hate making them worse. |
| 19:33.27 | ctooley | codefreeze, I completely respect yours as well. I wasn't trying to detract from the level of difficult of fixing said problems, just that, hopefully, it's possible. |
| 19:34.39 | codefreeze | ctooley: I'm really just trying to butter you up, and see if maybe you'll give me some feedback on my CDRfix5 branch... because I fully intend to merge it into trunk before 1.6 gets released. |
| 19:35.42 | codefreeze | ctooley: ... which will undoubtely get your 4 guys cussing and cursing and in foul moods, to be sure. |
| 19:36.51 | ctooley | codefreeze, Ok. I'll be happy to look at it. |
| 19:37.05 | ctooley | though, none of the 12 platforms I speak of, are asterisk. :) |
| 19:37.24 | ctooley | If any of them were.... we'd simply write the CDRs in the UCDR format to begin with. |
| 19:37.39 | codefreeze | ctooley: many, many, thanks! none of the 12? Even so...! |
| 19:37.59 | ctooley | Unfortunately, at this very moment I have to have a powwow about SIP Servlet container development. |
| 19:38.20 | codefreeze | Now, Alric.... an xfer, and the CDR's are weird? what version of Asterisk? |
| 19:38.25 | Alric | Realtime is still in 1.6 right? |
| 19:38.31 | codefreeze | ctooley: best of luck, there! |
| 19:38.35 | ctooley | But, shoot me an email with checkout instructions for your branch. I'll check it out and we'll walk through what you need. |
| 19:38.41 | Alric | This is 1.4.10.1 |
| 19:38.46 | ctooley | chris.tooley@excel.com |
| 19:39.10 | codefreeze | Alric, as far as I know. Hasn't been retooled majorly yet. |
| 19:39.38 | codefreeze | Alric: ok, late model 1.4. Yes, you will have probs with xfers, but not as bad as 1.2 |
| 19:40.07 | Alric | Retooled yet? As in may receive changes in the future? |
| 19:40.36 | codefreeze | Alric: In this life, only 3 things are certain: death, taxes, and software updates |
| 19:41.27 | codefreeze | ctooley: OK, will generate that.... now. |
| 19:41.33 | Alric | The case I'm talking about is pastebin'ed at http://www.pastebin.ca/667124 <- in that example 1046 originates the call to 1047, talks, 1047 consultative transfers to 1048 (and consults) and then 1046 and 1048 talk. Those 4 CDR entries are created. |
| 19:42.00 | Alric | Not complete entries, and this is also through cdr_odbc. |
| 19:42.51 | codefreeze | Alric: I'll look at it. give me a sec. gotta write up stuff for ctooley b4 I forget. And I forget quick. |
| 19:43.56 | Alric | I know how that goes... |
| 19:51.14 | codefreeze | OK, Alric -- I'm looking at it. I see one empty dstchannel field. |
| 19:51.51 | Alric | Yeah, that puzzles me too. |
| 19:52.09 | Alric | Let me grab the whole records. |
| 19:52.53 | Juggie | codefreeze, ping, you there? |
| 19:53.07 | codefreeze | Juggie-- I'm here |
| 19:53.15 | Alric | http://www.pastebin.ca/667190 |
| 19:53.21 | Alric | Full CDR output |
| 19:53.33 | Alric | (Less pretty) |
| 20:51.35 | codefreeze | Alric: OK, I've charted out the CDRs on timelines, and it does look like that CDR with the blank dstchannel is some kind of artifact. How was the 3-way entered into? What actions on the sip phones? |
| 20:56.11 | Alric | All Polycom 501s. 1046 calls 1047. They talk. 1047 Begins a Consultative transfer with 1048 and they talk. Then 1047 transfers 1046 to 1048, and they talk. Then hang up. I believe 1046 hangs up first. |
| 20:58.08 | codefreeze | Alric-- you can't tell who hung up. not from channel or cdr data (so far as I can tell) |
| 20:59.45 | Alric | I just added that in case it was important for some reason in your analysis. |
| 21:11.28 | codefreeze | Alric-- my first thought, is to suppress CDR w/o a dstchannel |
| 21:28.55 | Alric | Well yeah, thats not that hard. |
| 21:40.52 | codefreeze | Alric-- Hmmmm. I wonder if you tried my CDRfix5 branch for the same situation, if you have time, if you have the will, the courage, the stamina, the chutzpah, the ... you get my drift....? |
| 21:43.42 | Alric | Yeah, will check it out when I get a chance. |
| 21:44.25 | codefreeze | Alric-- if you get the chance, I'd appreciate it. It's the future. Hopefully, it's a BETTER future. |
| 21:46.20 | Alric | With all of the supervisor controls requested. |
| 22:15.38 | ctooley | BAH! Finally done with meeting, that only took.... too long. Will have to look at CDRfix5 tomorrow, too little time until coordinated beer strike today. |
| 22:19.12 | blitzrage | ctooley: oooo... beer is a great idea |
| 22:19.16 | blitzrage | I have 3 tall boys in the fridge |
| 22:19.55 | blitzrage | Stella Artois, Lowenbrau, and Warsteiner... mmmm |
| 22:19.59 | ctooley | blitzrage, Are you still talking about beer? |
| 22:20.11 | blitzrage | I believe I am |