| 00:25.03 | Juggie | go w/ the stella |
| 02:48.10 | blitzrage | Juggie: that's what I did :) |
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| 13:03.41 | file | blitzrage: !!! |
| 13:03.56 | blitzrage | gooooood morning, gooooooooood mooooooooooooooooorning. Good mooooooning. To you! |
| 13:04.18 | blitzrage | s/mooooooning/mooooooorning/ |
| 13:04.22 | blitzrage | :) |
| 13:04.27 | file | feeling... good? |
| 13:04.56 | *** join/#asterisk-doc Alric (n=nbowyer@masq.hyperusa.com) |
| 13:12.42 | Alric | Freedom!!!! |
| 13:33.47 | Alric | Finally off "oncall" :D |
| 13:38.03 | blitzrage | being on-call sucks |
| 13:40.43 | Alric | Yeah |
| 13:40.58 | Alric | AT&T called the on-call number at 4:44am the other day. I was annoyed :D |
| 14:23.03 | *** join/#asterisk-doc jsmith (n=jsmith@000-202-515.area3.spcsdns.net) |
| 14:23.03 | *** mode/#asterisk-doc [+o jsmith] by ChanServ |
| 14:23.56 | file | well well |
| 14:23.58 | file | look who it is |
| 14:24.00 | jsmith | :-) |
| 14:24.13 | file | how are we Mr. Smith? |
| 14:24.46 | jsmith | Oh, just recovering |
| 14:25.08 | jsmith | 789 emails |
| 14:25.16 | jsmith | (work email, not counting personal email) |
| 14:27.18 | Alric | Mr. Smith! |
| 14:27.36 | Alric | And celebrating today. |
| 14:27.48 | jsmith | Alric: What's this... like your two month anniversary? |
| 14:28.14 | file | jsmith: you haven't seen MuffinMan's brother yet! |
| 14:28.22 | jsmith | Nope... |
| 14:28.27 | file | join #asterisk-commits |
| 14:29.42 | Alric | Yeah, two-month or so. Like 2 weeks ago |
| 14:29.46 | Alric | So going on three-month :D |
| 14:30.48 | jsmith | yipee! |
| 14:34.05 | Juggie | jsmith, welcome back. |
| 14:36.00 | jsmith | Thanks Juggie... it's good to be back |
| 14:36.10 | file | jsmith: did you miss us all? |
| 14:36.51 | jsmith | Of course I did... being stranding in strange countries without internet access and without a working phone... |
| 14:41.42 | Juggie | jsmith, o well... the hotel stuff got announced but the reservation stuff is still no clearer, i've talked to lisa about it though |
| 14:41.45 | Juggie | i just went ahead and booked again |
| 14:45.51 | Alric | Does anyone else find that app_queue spits out tons of CDRs when used with chan_agent or chan_local? |
| 15:10.43 | Alric | Whee, and my Local/ queue members are disappearing. |
| 15:11.55 | jsmith | Local/blah@foo or Local/blah@foo/n |
| 15:12.02 | jsmith | There's a subtle but important difference |
| 15:12.04 | Alric | Local/blaf@foo/n |
| 15:12.18 | jsmith | What do you mean by "disappearing"? |
| 15:12.54 | Alric | Well, they're getting removed. |
| 15:13.42 | Alric | I think it has something to do with: [Aug 23 10:10:11] NOTICE[9593]: app_queue.c:1954 wait_for_answer: No one is answering queue 'sales' (2/0/0) |
| 15:13.55 | Alric | Because before that message I have members, after I do not. |
| 15:15.58 | Alric | I can get "No one is answering" via a combination of DND usage and someone physically not answering their phone. |
| 15:19.53 | ctooley | jsmith!! |
| 15:19.56 | ctooley | You're alive |
| 15:21.18 | jsmith | ctooley: Yes, but just barely... |
| 15:23.32 | blitzrage | jsmith: so you missed it -- I proposed to Paula, and we're getting married next week then taking a honeymoon by driving across Canada, then down to Phoenix for AstriCon! |
| 15:24.02 | jsmith | blitzrage: Awesome! When's the due date? |
| 15:24.08 | blitzrage | LOL |
| 15:24.19 | blitzrage | hahaha |
| 15:24.25 | blitzrage | only you can prevent wild fires |
| 15:24.25 | file | jsmith: also I'm married now btw |
| 15:24.50 | jsmith | file: Yeah... I saw the black baloons from the plane as I flew over last night... |
| 15:25.03 | blitzrage | hehe |
| 15:25.06 | file | I thought that was you! |
| 15:25.26 | blitzrage | jsmith: although I am leaving next week for a drive across Canada to BC, and Paula and I are actually planning on coming to AstriCon together |
| 15:25.40 | jsmith | Yeah... the one in the Airbus 330 watching the onboard entertainment system (running Linux!) crash repeatedly |
| 15:25.47 | jsmith | blitzrage: w00t! |
| 15:25.56 | Juggie | blitzrage, your going to use her to smuggle you across the border? :) |
| 15:26.02 | Juggie | going to hide in her chest? :) |
| 15:26.02 | jsmith | blitzrage: Best time of the year for B.C. |
| 15:26.06 | blitzrage | Juggie: possibly... then I can just say we're on vacation :) |
| 15:26.08 | file | jsmith: I got crashing that thing down to a science last time |
| 15:26.16 | file | just had to hit the down button 8 times |
| 15:26.41 | blitzrage | Juggie: although the border doesn't like either of us.... so we might still not get in |
| 15:26.47 | jsmith | file: It made me cringe every time I saw the little penguin in the corner of the framebuffer |
| 15:26.54 | Juggie | blitzrage, ask her to flash |
| 15:26.56 | blitzrage | lol |
| 15:27.04 | blitzrage | she only flashes me |
| 15:27.11 | Juggie | hah |
| 15:27.12 | file | ooooh |
| 15:27.15 | Juggie | she only flashes you, this week |
| 15:27.26 | blitzrage | good enough for this ol' boy |
| 15:27.35 | jsmith | blitzrage: Yeah... you're *soooo* old |
| 15:28.00 | blitzrage | jsmith: I act old.... I think that counts |
| 15:28.10 | Alric | Huh married? |
| 15:28.19 | blitzrage | Alric: not yet |
| 15:28.22 | jsmith | blitzrage: It's not the age, it's the mileage! |
| 15:28.33 | blitzrage | hrmmmm.... then my statement still stands I guess |
| 15:28.41 | blitzrage | although I've been sitting on a parking lot for a while now |
| 15:30.51 | blitzrage | would anyone else think it inappropriate if someone you consulted for used the paging system you developed to intercom your Polycom sitting in your living room? |
| 15:31.15 | blitzrage | because that has happened to me about 4 times now... twice 2 days ago |
| 15:31.36 | Alric | Where is the dilemma there? |
| 15:32.01 | Alric | We are talking a moral issue right? :D |
| 15:32.08 | blitzrage | the first time I was nice enough and mentioned that he shouldn't do that.... then the 2nd time I was quite adament that this is my living room, and I find it inappropriate for him to be intercoming my living room -- where I live |
| 15:32.15 | blitzrage | yes -- it actually works :) |
| 15:32.46 | blitzrage | maybe it's just me -- but I was not impressed |
| 15:33.07 | Alric | Oh. |
| 15:33.23 | Alric | So someone is intercoming you in your living room? |
| 15:33.26 | blitzrage | yes |
| 15:33.28 | blitzrage | I work from home |
| 15:33.49 | blitzrage | auto-answer on the Polycom because I didn't answer immediately |
| 15:34.04 | blitzrage | (I was on the couch with back spasms and couldn't reach the phone) |
| 15:34.21 | blitzrage | ...I'm just ranting so I can feel better :) |
| 15:37.14 | Alric | I suspect that was a 1.2 change, because I'm quite sure 1.0 didn't do this. |
| 15:39.12 | Alric | I also want to kick chan_agent to the curb, but I need to figure out why my Local/ members are getting removed before that happens |
| 15:47.53 | jsmith | blitzrage: back spasms... is that what you call it? |
| 15:48.19 | jsmith | Alric: You should really be looking at the queue_log and not the CDR records... |
| 15:48.26 | blitzrage | jsmith: hehe... well I actually tweaked my back by lifting something I think... it was sore in the morning, then Paula and I went walking around downtown, and I thought it'd get better.... but it just got worse and worse |
| 15:48.50 | ctooley | jsmith, seems to have returned full of wit |
| 15:49.00 | jsmith | ctooley: You'd better believe it! |
| 15:49.59 | blitzrage | he's been building it up for 2 weeks! |
| 15:51.20 | Alric | jsmith: I'm looking at overall system CDRs. queue_log won't have that will it? |
| 15:51.26 | ctooley | Damn, I have to do a port of all of our patches to 1.4.10.1 now. (Unless 1.4.11 gets released before I get the port done). We've got memory leaks that are killing us. |
| 15:51.52 | Alric | 1.4.11 is released. |
| 15:52.06 | ctooley | well, there you go. |
| 15:52.12 | jsmith | ctooley: That's the joy of living with out-of-tree patches |
| 15:52.14 | blitzrage | ok, pizza is here -- time to eat! |
| 15:52.19 | jsmith | blitzrage: I'm jealous! |
| 15:52.22 | file | blitzrage: no grocery shopping? :P |
| 15:52.46 | ctooley | jsmith, I'd be really thrilled if they were integrated in 1.4 :) |
| 15:53.02 | jsmith | ctooley: Are they bug-fixes, or features? |
| 15:53.11 | ctooley | file keeps telling me that they aren't going in though. :) |
| 15:53.17 | ctooley | jsmith, features, they belong in trunk. |
| 15:54.24 | Alric | But that still leaves me with the problem of disappearing queue members. |
| 15:54.26 | jsmith | ctooley: You should have written them a year ago! |
| 15:54.48 | jsmith | Alric: How do you know they're "disappearing"? Maybe they're just busy... or paused... |
| 15:55.03 | Alric | Because when I queue show <queue> it says "No members" |
| 15:55.30 | Alric | Which would seem to indicate that the queue has no members, and thusly that my members are disappearing. |
| 15:55.32 | jsmith | Do you have Asterisk set to automatically log them out if they don't answer? |
| 15:55.39 | Alric | You mean pause them? |
| 15:55.45 | jsmith | Alric: No, remove them. |
| 15:56.09 | Alric | I thought one existed, but my lookings through queue.conf.sample didn't reveal anything. |
| 16:01.51 | Alric | Still don't see any option like that. |
| 16:06.13 | blitzrage | file: maybe later -- I gotta do some consulting at 12:30pm |
| 16:06.39 | file | WAIT! |
| 16:06.43 | file | some of you use FC |
| 16:06.54 | Juggie | eugh |
| 16:06.59 | Juggie | i woudn't admit it if i did |
| 16:07.15 | file | does any of you have a 32-bit FC7 install with latest updates that I could ... use for a bit? |
| 16:07.17 | file | does? do |
| 16:07.39 | Juggie | blitzrage might |
| 16:08.08 | blitzrage | file: just my laptop |
| 16:08.31 | blitzrage | file: I could try and let you SSH into it if you want |
| 16:09.01 | file | hrm |
| 16:09.35 | file | maybe I'll just do a minimal install in a VM |
| 16:09.53 | Alric | Anyone know where ast_call() is defined perchance? :) |
| 16:10.58 | Juggie | file, i could setup FC7 in a xen vm |
| 16:11.01 | Juggie | but probally no faster then you |
| 16:11.34 | file | nah a VM here is fine... |
| 16:12.00 | Juggie | okay |
| 16:12.08 | file | network minimal install |
| 16:12.12 | file | will? hopefully? work? |
| 16:12.33 | Juggie | file, wanna write a fgets wrapper, me or russell cant, we've seen the solution and its not gpl so i dunno about russ but i'll just end up copying it. |
| 16:12.34 | file | plus I can use the internal Lumenvox server... |
| 16:12.41 | Juggie | its needed for fastagi |
| 16:13.09 | file | meh |
| 16:15.11 | Juggie | just need to loop around fgets, the return of fgets is useless so ignore it, return the string you build, and if you get EINTR or EAGAIN loop again while buffering what fgets returned the previous time. |
| 16:16.41 | Juggie | and break if you get no error, or \n or feof |
| 16:25.55 | ctooley | jsmith, Most of it was written almost a year ago, unfortunately it wasn't in any shape to be released. |
| 16:27.03 | jsmith | file: I've got a PPC install of F7 on my laptop, if that helps you |
| 16:27.11 | file | has to be i386 |
| 16:27.14 | jsmith | ctooley: ACK... I understand |
| 16:27.18 | file | this is the annoying Lumenvox hanging issue |
| 16:27.28 | file | that I said was their fault, then they said it was mine, and yeah |
| 16:27.39 | jsmith | file: I can probably set you up a box by tomorrow |
| 16:27.51 | file | tomorrow is too late |
| 16:36.36 | ctooley | file, I've got my laptop, it's 32bit FC7 |
| 16:36.49 | ctooley | no asterisk or software installed on it currently though. |
| 16:36.52 | file | install already in progress, thanks anyway though |
| 16:36.56 | blitzrage | file: if a call comes in via SIP, and goes back out via SIP, and the call is native bridged, I have someone asking me if the sequence number stays the same (i.e. is asking just taking the packet and passing it out to the other channel without modification) ? |
| 16:37.01 | blitzrage | my guess is that is the case |
| 16:37.08 | file | blitzrage: in the RTP stream? |
| 16:37.11 | blitzrage | yes |
| 16:37.18 | file | did a reinvite happen? |
| 16:37.28 | blitzrage | no reinvite |
| 16:37.35 | file | then it wasn't native bridged |
| 16:37.41 | file | do you mean p2p? |
| 16:38.01 | file | (if so, then yes) |
| 16:38.09 | blitzrage | this is 1.2 |
| 16:38.14 | file | then no |
| 16:38.55 | blitzrage | same codec.... |
| 16:39.23 | blitzrage | console says "attempting native bridge", same codec, no reinvite... media going through Asterisk |
| 16:39.42 | blitzrage | no transcoding, but asterisk is definitely in the RTP stream |
| 16:41.21 | blitzrage | I was under the impression that meant a native bridge........... |
| 16:41.42 | file | in 1.2 a native bridge is a reinvite |
| 16:42.11 | blitzrage | hrmmm... so what is a non-reinvite? |
| 16:42.34 | blitzrage | what kind of a bridge is that? |
| 16:42.45 | file | in 1.2 land? a generic bridge |
| 16:42.55 | blitzrage | but the console always says native bridge? |
| 16:43.23 | file | then it should be reinviting, and if not... then it's still a generic bridge, just a generic bridge in rtp.c |
| 16:44.34 | file | in which case the sequence number changes |
| 16:45.01 | blitzrage | so with no reinvite, RTP via Asterisk, means the sequence number changes? |
| 16:45.06 | file | yes |
| 16:45.07 | file | on 1.2 |
| 16:45.36 | file | on 1.4, P2P will minimally change the packet... which means the sequence number stays the same as received |
| 16:46.42 | blitzrage | this guy is saying that you are contradictory to what Kevin Fleming has told him in the past :) |
| 16:49.12 | blitzrage | I have never heard the term generic bridge... so I'm confused :) |
| 16:49.37 | blitzrage | and I've always been under the impression a native bridge meant that packets came in and sent back out without transcoding |
| 16:49.46 | Alric | jsmith! |
| 16:50.27 | file | generic bridge is when frames come in from an Asterisk channel and are sent to another Asterisk channel |
| 16:50.29 | jsmith | Alric: Yes? |
| 16:50.30 | blitzrage | file: not that I'm trying to say you're wrong, I'm just saying I've never heard that explained to me like that, and this guy is telling me Kevin told him something opposite of what you just told me..... |
| 16:50.43 | file | it's easy to test/show |
| 16:50.47 | blitzrage | file: ok -- that's what I thought native bridge was, but ok, I'm sold :) |
| 16:50.49 | Alric | jsmith: You happen to remember that queue remove member option thingy? |
| 16:51.30 | blitzrage | file: is there anything you can show me that proves that the sequence number is changed in a native bridge? |
| 16:51.37 | blitzrage | just so I can tell this guy that is true |
| 16:51.43 | blitzrage | or rather, prove to him that is true |
| 16:51.56 | blitzrage | only because he's gotten two different answers now that contradict each other :D |
| 16:52.03 | jsmith | Alric: It's not an option in queues.conf... it's something you have to do with creative dialplan magic |
| 16:52.14 | blitzrage | and I hate that this these are questions I can't answer.... |
| 16:52.16 | Alric | jsmith: I still have disappearing members then :( |
| 16:52.28 | file | rtp debug |
| 16:52.38 | file | it will show you the incoming sequence number, and the outgoing sequence number |
| 16:52.44 | file | if they differ... you know what I say is true |
| 16:52.44 | blitzrage | aha! |
| 16:52.52 | blitzrage | file: you are genius :) |
| 16:53.24 | jsmith | Alric: The CLI should tell you if members are being added/removed (in yellow, if I remember correctly) |
| 16:53.32 | Alric | Its not with 4 verbosity. |
| 16:56.31 | Alric | Nothing on verbose 100 either. Allow me to pastebin :D |
| 16:58.48 | Alric | http://www.pastebin.ca/668160 |
| 16:59.17 | Alric | Two "members" (Polycom 501, one set to DND, the other busy via the 'Reject' button.). Another 501 calls into the queue. |
| 17:01.02 | file | FC7 does not amuse me. |
| 17:01.15 | Juggie | FC sux |
| 17:01.36 | jsmith | file: Dare I ask why not? |
| 17:02.11 | Juggie | because it sucks! |
| 17:02.15 | blitzrage | it doesn't suck |
| 17:02.22 | blitzrage | it's just a bad server platform |
| 17:02.29 | blitzrage | but it's great for my laptop as a desktop platform |
| 17:02.39 | Juggie | centos! :) |
| 17:02.45 | blitzrage | most things "just work" without compiling, tweaking, configuring, etc.... |
| 17:03.08 | blitzrage | I love centos for a server platform, but I like having the new toys for my desktop because I don't care if I have to reboot every once in a while |
| 17:03.09 | jsmith | I agree... it's a *desktop* platform, not a server platform. |
| 17:03.13 | file | it decided I have no hard drive after waiting awhile for it to download stuff |
| 17:06.53 | blitzrage | lol |
| 17:08.37 | jsmith | file: This is inside a VM? |
| 17:09.50 | file | yes |
| 17:13.07 | file | better. |
| 17:20.47 | Alric | Hmmm |
| 17:21.36 | Alric | Any time it reaches "No one is answering queue 'x'" it removes all members from that queue. Just tested with another queue that has static interfaces assigned as members "SIP/1045a", for example, and its doing the same thing. |
| 17:25.23 | Alric | Hmmm |
| 17:25.40 | Alric | Lunch time. Think I found something though :D |
| 17:27.25 | jsmith | Oh? |
| 17:43.09 | Alric | I see a few likely candidates. |
| 17:45.04 | Alric | Ok, time for some work here. |
| 17:58.07 | Alric | Yay, now I'm getting somewhere. |
| 17:58.20 | Alric | The disappearing members problem does not exist in 1.4.6, same configuration. |
| 18:11.17 | Alric | Interesting. |
| 18:20.17 | blitzrage | file: thanks so much for the information! |
| 18:20.23 | Alric | Up to 1.4.9, twiddle. |
| 18:21.00 | blitzrage | isn't there an option to remove queue members automatically if they don't answer? like autopause or something? |
| 18:21.26 | file | blitzrage: you are unwelcome |
| 18:21.40 | Alric | blitzrage: My configuration files aren't changing. |
| 18:21.54 | Alric | blitzrage: 1.4.9 is working fine. 1.4.10.1 does not. |
| 18:22.06 | blitzrage | I see |
| 18:22.10 | blitzrage | hrmmmm |
| 18:22.23 | blitzrage | might want to check with putnopvut about that.... |
| 18:22.32 | Alric | Huh? |
| 18:22.52 | blitzrage | about your issue -- he has been making changes to queues for me lately |
| 18:22.55 | blitzrage | (and other bugs) |
| 18:22.57 | blitzrage | file: thanks :D |
| 18:23.07 | Alric | Is that a person? :D |
| 18:23.16 | blitzrage | yes :) |
| 18:23.18 | Alric | Ok |
| 18:27.26 | blitzrage | nice! no more errors loading my TDM400p |
| 18:27.32 | blitzrage | must have been an FC5 issue |
| 18:27.38 | file | s/5// |
| 18:28.02 | blitzrage | true :) |
| 18:28.36 | Alric | A HA! |
| 18:28.47 | Alric | 1.4.9 works. 1.4.10 doesn't! |
| 18:29.19 | blitzrage | w00t |
| 18:29.58 | Alric | heh |
| 18:30.08 | Alric | The change I originally suspected might be it happened within that timeframe. |
| 18:30.45 | Alric | Issue 10346, reported and tested by blitzrage. |
| 18:30.49 | blitzrage | uh oh :) |
| 18:30.54 | blitzrage | A10346 |
| 18:31.03 | MuffinMan | [10346] Committed by root on 2006-02-16 19:01:12: automerge commit |
| 18:31.11 | blitzrage | oh issue |
| 18:31.12 | blitzrage | duh |
| 18:31.15 | blitzrage | M10346 |
| 18:31.16 | MuffinMan | [closed] [Asterisk] Applications/app_queue 0010346: Using dynamic realtime members of a queue can cause callers to wait forever reported by blitzrage http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=10346 |
| 18:31.44 | Alric | So is this Michelson person on IRC? |
| 18:32.04 | Alric | A ha. |
| 18:32.18 | blitzrage | putnopvut |
| 18:40.45 | Alric | He's not responding :( |
| 18:40.56 | Alric | Oh heh, its only been 10 minutes. |
| 19:07.06 | Alric | M10541 |
| 19:07.06 | MuffinMan | [new] [Asterisk] Applications/app_queue 0010541: Queue members "disappear" when none are available. reported by Alric http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=10541 |
| 19:07.31 | Alric | Hrm, I guess I need to add some more clarification. |
| 19:07.41 | Alric | Or maybe not. Hmm. |
| 19:08.26 | Alric | blitzrage: Ping? |
| 19:08.48 | blitzrage | Alric: pong |
| 19:11.22 | Alric | blitzrage: You have any awesome docs written on FUNC_ODBC? |
| 19:11.38 | blitzrage | I do! but they are in the book which isn't out yet |
| 19:11.43 | blitzrage | but I could probably forward you QC2 |
| 19:11.50 | blitzrage | give me your email, and I'll send it |
| 19:12.35 | Alric | nbowyer@1stel.com |
| 19:13.12 | blitzrage | sent |
| 19:13.58 | Alric | Thanks |
| 19:13.59 | Alric | Got it |
| 19:22.03 | blitzrage | codefreeze: another question... can I JUST use AEL, and not use extensions.conf at all, or do I need it for the [general] stuff? |
| 19:22.23 | blitzrage | I just got reading the comments in extensions.conf, and looks like I need to use at least a minimal extensions.conf for the [general] stuff |
| 19:22.59 | codefreeze | yes, and you can even mix. SOme code in extensions.conf, some in ael. |
| 19:23.12 | blitzrage | right, I knew I could mix, but I was wondering if I could *just* use AEL |
| 19:23.26 | blitzrage | but looks like I need extensions.conf file at least the [general] stuff |
| 19:23.47 | codefreeze | Pretty much, specially if all your [general] stuff is default anyway. |
| 19:24.04 | blitzrage | just trying to learn so when I document this stuff.... :) |
| 19:24.05 | codefreeze | Or, can it be? Hmmm |
| 19:24.15 | blitzrage | I'm going to try and JUST use an AEL file here... :) |
| 19:24.17 | blitzrage | I'm curious |
| 19:24.32 | blitzrage | and I already found a bug in the sample extensions.ael file :) |
| 19:26.22 | codefreeze | blitzrage: good; make a bug report on it; I see lots of grumbling on irc about the dis-necessity of having both extensions.conf and extensions.ael, and they really grumble if extensions.ael gives errors... |
| 19:26.41 | blitzrage | people complain because they don't like new things |
| 19:26.52 | blitzrage | /CONSOLE=Zap/1 |
| 19:26.56 | codefreeze | you've noticed that, have you? |
| 19:26.56 | blitzrage | doesn't have a trailing ; |
| 19:27.04 | blitzrage | codefreeze: ya... I've been around long enough :) |
| 19:27.14 | blitzrage | I'm just going to clean up the formatting of this file I think and use multiline comments |
| 19:27.18 | blitzrage | tooooooo many //'s |
| 19:27.27 | blitzrage | but I'm gonna write a dialplan first and see what I can learn :) |
| 19:27.33 | blitzrage | it's been a LONG time since I used AEL |
| 19:29.40 | codefreeze | Have fun. Any suggestions for improvement are always welcome. I may ignore them, but they are nonetheless welcome! |
| 19:29.48 | blitzrage | :) |
| 19:30.49 | blitzrage | check chapter 12 I think |
| 19:30.49 | Alric | Oh rofl. |
| 19:30.54 | blitzrage | Relational Database |
| 19:30.57 | blitzrage | Integration |
| 19:31.05 | Alric | Appendix G. An example of func_odbc. |
| 19:31.09 | blitzrage | that too |
| 19:31.15 | blitzrage | it goes along with chapter 12 |
| 19:31.19 | Alric | ah |
| 19:31.30 | blitzrage | when you look at it, you'll probably swear :) |
| 19:31.58 | Alric | This doesn't make sense to me. |
| 19:32.09 | Alric | Are you defining your own dialplan functions? :D |
| 19:32.27 | blitzrage | yes |
| 19:32.30 | Alric | Ok |
| 19:32.31 | blitzrage | in func_odbc.conf |
| 19:32.56 | blitzrage | ya... read chapter 12, it'll make more sense... but it's fun to look at the dialplan stuff to kinda get an overview |
| 19:32.58 | Alric | Whats this postgres stuff! |
| 19:33.32 | Alric | So CentOS frustrated me recently. |
| 19:33.41 | Alric | Used to be you needed unixODBC, unixODBC-devel and MyODBC. |
| 19:33.56 | Alric | Now you need both unixODBC packages, and odbc-connector-mysql or somesuch. |
| 19:34.05 | blitzrage | I wouldn't know... I don't use MySQL :) |
| 19:34.30 | Alric | and the libraries don't match up anymore. the default config files for odbc don't "just work" with the new connector libraries. Grr. |
| 19:41.16 | Alric | I have no idea what a Dagwood sandwich is. |
| 19:41.57 | blitzrage | lol |
| 19:42.03 | blitzrage | me either :) |
| 19:42.44 | Alric | Who wrote this chapter? :D |
| 19:43.05 | blitzrage | I did |
| 19:43.10 | blitzrage | but Jim interjected some stuff |
| 19:43.13 | Alric | ah |
| 19:43.15 | blitzrage | like that part :) |
| 19:45.00 | ctooley | file, any idea what the max number of people is in app_meetme. Functional limit anyway. Reasonable hardware, 2-4 procs, 4GB RAM, etc. |
| 19:45.13 | file | I can't answer that. |
| 19:45.28 | ctooley | can't or aren't supposed to? |
| 19:45.30 | ctooley | :) |
| 19:46.15 | file | I won't justify that with a response, you should know scaling questions like that can't be answered |
| 19:46.48 | file | well, can't be answered with certainty... |
| 19:47.04 | file | all depends on codecs involved, technologies involved, whether the optimization mode is enabled, what sort of timing source you have |
| 19:47.07 | blitzrage | can I run SS7 on my analog line? |
| 19:47.47 | file | I will say that it will do at least 2 people |
| 19:47.49 | ctooley | sorry, I should qualify it. Everything is SIP, ulaw, and whatever is going to provide us the best timing source (ie: if we have to buy a card, we will.) |
| 19:48.18 | file | I still can't answer that as I've never done testing of meetme :P |
| 19:48.27 | ctooley | And i'm not really looking for certainty anyway, looking for numbers like 40-60, 100+, etc. |
| 19:49.58 | ctooley | They're trying to tell us we need to support 200 users in one conference on our conference server. |
| 19:50.16 | ctooley | Of course the biggest conference we've ever had was about 25, but "well, we might someday..." |
| 19:51.16 | blitzrage | I like to use SIPp to generate the call, then have a call connected to Milliwatt() to listen to loss of audio quality |
| 19:51.23 | blitzrage | (via my Polycom) |
| 19:51.34 | blitzrage | then I can audibly here when the box gets overloaded |
| 19:55.36 | Alric | Oooo |
| 19:55.37 | Alric | array() |
| 19:55.41 | blitzrage | :) |
| 20:00.07 | Alric | I thought you didn't like GotoIf()? |
| 20:01.50 | blitzrage | I didn't say that |
| 20:01.56 | blitzrage | someone else did |
| 20:01.59 | blitzrage | I like GotoIf() |
| 20:08.48 | Alric | Oh |
| 20:09.35 | blitzrage | I don't even know what else you'd use :) |
| 20:11.34 | blitzrage | codefreeze: WARNING[6341]: pbx.c:3985 ast_merge_contexts_and_delete: Requested contexts didn't get merged |
| 20:11.40 | blitzrage | but I have no contexts in extensions.conf.... |
| 20:11.43 | blitzrage | just [general] |
| 20:11.50 | blitzrage | what other typo might I have I wonder.... |
| 20:15.10 | blitzrage | wow... I still get that even when I remove extensions.ael |
| 20:20.09 | blitzrage | codefreeze: wow... you *need* a default context to not get that WARNING -- I think it should be updated to say specifically that you need to define a [default] context in extensions.conf |
| 20:20.31 | blitzrage | and context default { _X. => { NoOp(); } }; didn't work either |
| 20:20.32 | blitzrage | same error |
| 20:23.30 | ctooley | later folks. I am heading back to the northern hemisphere. |
| 20:41.12 | blitzrage | codefreeze: http://pastebin.ca/668398 |
| 20:45.53 | Alric | Wow |
| 20:46.00 | Alric | func_odbc can eliminate so much agi stuff I do :D |
| 20:46.06 | blitzrage | yep :D |
| 20:46.28 | blitzrage | if you're just using AGI's to write to the DB, you can eliminate those |
| 20:46.41 | Alric | Or read from the DB |
| 20:46.47 | blitzrage | right |
| 20:46.58 | blitzrage | s/write/read\/write/ |
| 20:47.13 | Alric | A lot of the AGIs I have just read stuff from the DB based upon dialplan variables, then spit out other variables with the info I need in them. |
| 20:47.16 | codefreeze | blitzrage: I'll look at your pb |
| 20:47.29 | blitzrage | no rush |
| 20:47.33 | blitzrage | just found it :) |
| 20:47.37 | blitzrage | this isn't for work |
| 20:47.49 | Alric | blitzrage: Disappearing queue members got bug confirmation status :D |
| 20:47.51 | blitzrage | so I'm going back to extensions.conf because I can't quite figure out switch() and a few other things.... :( |
| 20:47.55 | blitzrage | Alric: nice! |
| 20:48.19 | blitzrage | but I'll get back on it later |
| 20:51.39 | codefreeze | blitzrage: this is a 64bit machine, eh? |
| 20:51.43 | blitzrage | ya |
| 20:52.19 | codefreeze | blitzrage: you can't figure out switch? |
| 20:52.25 | blitzrage | funny enough... no |
| 20:52.31 | blitzrage | it didn't like whatever I did with catch |
| 20:52.44 | blitzrage | kept throwing me an error |
| 20:52.51 | blitzrage | but I might have had an error somewhere else |
| 20:53.02 | codefreeze | you don't use catch in a switch, catch is used in macro |
| 20:53.03 | blitzrage | I was going through and commenting out blocks to find it, then ran into the segfault |
| 20:53.07 | blitzrage | oooooh |
| 20:53.15 | blitzrage | I thought it was used to catch the 'a' extension |
| 20:53.22 | blitzrage | I misinterpreted then |
| 20:53.32 | blitzrage | so it was giving me an error just like it should have :) |
| 20:55.16 | codefreeze | lessee, you use case x: and pattern x: and default: in a switch. in macros, you use catch for 'i' and 'a' and 'h' and others you want to 'catch' if they get triggered in the macro |
| 20:55.45 | blitzrage | aha! |
| 20:55.48 | blitzrage | ok, I got it now |
| 20:55.52 | blitzrage | my bad :) |
| 20:56.25 | blitzrage | pattern is to catch a dialplan pattern match? |
| 20:56.26 | blitzrage | pattern _NXX: foo(); ? |
| 20:56.46 | codefreeze | yep. I think you can leave out the _; it should put it back for you in the generated code. |
| 20:56.52 | blitzrage | gotcha |
| 20:56.57 | blitzrage | it's all making sense now :) |
| 20:57.26 | Alric | blitzen, AEL is easy! Come on ;) |
| 20:57.31 | blitzrage | :) |
| 20:57.36 | codefreeze | well if you say switch(${RETVAL}) {...} |
| 20:57.41 | Alric | (Cough never touched AEL cough) |
| 20:58.48 | codefreeze | you can use pattern B.: to handle all the vals starting with B. It ends up becoming an extension in the current context. |
| 21:00.22 | codefreeze | blitzrage: for the crash, I'm going to need the extensions.ael that caused the probs. |
| 21:00.27 | blitzrage | sure |
| 21:00.31 | blitzrage | let me pastebin it |
| 21:01.08 | blitzrage | codefreeze: I think it has to do with a goto() with no matching context (i.e. not existing) |
| 21:01.42 | codefreeze | possible, but it shouldn't crash. |
| 21:01.45 | Alric | I hate windows :/ |
| 21:02.01 | blitzrage | http://pastebin.ca/668426 |
| 21:36.26 | blitzrage | Alric: you have a patch ready |
| 21:38.24 | codefreeze | blitzrage: this ael file caused the crashed? Hmmmm |
| 21:39.23 | blitzrage | indeed it did |
| 21:39.40 | blitzrage | with just [general] and [default] setup in extensions.conf |
| 21:40.54 | codefreeze | doesn't here, neither aelparse nor asterisk; must be a 64bit thing. It does have a syntax error, tho. That could be a factor |
| 21:41.33 | blitzrage | possible |
| 21:41.34 | codefreeze | Wait, pb me your gen/def extensions.conf, too. Maybe that's a factor |
| 21:41.39 | blitzrage | I know it has a few errors |
| 21:42.10 | blitzrage | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:42.10 | blitzrage | [general] |
| 21:42.10 | blitzrage | static=yes |
| 21:42.10 | blitzrage | writeprotect=no |
| 21:42.10 | blitzrage | clearglobalvars=no |
| 21:42.10 | blitzrage | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:42.17 | blitzrage | [default] |
| 21:42.17 | blitzrage | exten => s,1,NoOp() |
| 21:42.18 | blitzrage | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:42.21 | blitzrage | that's it |
| 21:44.39 | codefreeze | dang. still runs. I need a 64 test machine!!! |
| 21:44.50 | blitzrage | totally :) |
| 21:44.56 | codefreeze | uh, 64 bit test machine |
| 21:45.20 | codefreeze | and no, I will not settle for 64 1-bit machines! |
| 21:46.08 | codefreeze | uh, just for kicks, is it an intel or an AMD processor? |
| 21:48.06 | blitzrage | AMD |
| 21:48.09 | blitzrage | AMD Sempron |
| 21:49.16 | codefreeze | The only 64-bit machine I've got is my laptop; and I haven't got asterisk on it.... ugh |
| 21:49.40 | file | codefreeze: don't worry |
| 21:50.09 | file | move swiftly on now |
| 21:50.32 | codefreeze | file: can ya give me a login to a 64 bit machine I can play with for a few hours? |
| 21:51.52 | file | you can use my box, sure |
| 21:51.57 | file | do you still remember the login info? |
| 21:52.09 | codefreeze | nope |
| 21:55.11 | codefreeze | blitzrage: try one thing out for me.... run utils/aelparse with the offensive .ael file |
| 21:55.39 | codefreeze | Actually, make sure the offensive .ael file is in /etc/asterisk, then run utils/aelparse with no args |
| 21:56.08 | blitzrage | /usr/sbin/utils... ? |
| 21:56.16 | blitzrage | or in /usr/src/asterisk/ |
| 21:56.20 | blitzrage | probably the latter |
| 21:56.24 | codefreeze | asterisk/utils/aelparse |
| 21:57.00 | blitzrage | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:57.01 | blitzrage | (You can use the -w option to dump extensions.conf format to extensions.conf.aeldump) |
| 21:57.01 | blitzrage | LOG: lev:2 file:pbx_ael.c line:1680 func: pbx_load_module Starting AEL load process. |
| 21:57.01 | blitzrage | LOG: lev:2 file:pbx_ael.c line:1687 func: pbx_load_module AEL load process: calculated config file name '/etc/asterisk/extensions.ael'. |
| 21:57.01 | blitzrage | LOG: lev:4 file:ael.y line:764 func: ael_yyerror ==== File: /etc/asterisk/extensions.ael, Line 5, Cols: 20-20: Error: syntax error, unexpected '(', expecting 'default' or word |
| 21:57.03 | blitzrage | LOG: lev:3 file:ael.y line:206 func: ael_yyparse ==== File: /etc/asterisk/extensions.ael, Line 1, Cols: 22-22: Warning! The empty context incoming_pstn will be IGNORED! |
| 21:57.06 | blitzrage | LOG: lev:2 file:pbx_ael.c line:1695 func: pbx_load_module AEL load process: parsed config file name '/etc/asterisk/extensions.ael'. |
| 21:57.09 | blitzrage | LOG: lev:4 file:pbx_ael.c line:1708 func: pbx_load_module Sorry, but 1 syntax errors and 0 semantic errors were detected. It doesn't make sense to compile. |
| 21:57.12 | blitzrage | LOG: lev:4 file:ael2_parse line:523 func: main 0 contexts, 0 extensions, 0 priorities |
| 21:57.14 | blitzrage | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:57.33 | codefreeze | If I'm really, really lucky, it'll crash, and I won't have to muck with a running asterisk. It doesn't look like I'm lucky |
| 21:58.03 | codefreeze | okthx |
| 21:59.29 | blitzrage | np |
| 22:03.58 | codefreeze | yay! coredump! |
| 22:04.24 | blitzrage | yay indeed! :) |
| 22:04.42 | codefreeze | Even better! aelparse coredumps!!!!! |
| 22:05.15 | blitzrage | hot |
| 22:14.04 | codefreeze | blitzrage: hmmm. looks like the syntax error got the parser lost.. why it crashes on a 64-bit, and not on 32, is anyone's guess. Longer ptrs to hose, I guess. |
| 22:14.36 | blitzrage | ya..... ya! |
| 22:41.58 | codefreeze | blitzrage: ok, if you change those two goto(x,y,z) statements to be goto x,y,z; instead, you won't crash. I'm still tinkering in the guts of the parser to see why.... |
| 22:43.34 | blitzrage | codefreeze: sorry to find a bug :( |
| 22:44.41 | codefreeze | SUuuuuure, suuuuurrrre you are! I believe you! ;) |
| 22:44.49 | blitzrage | I am! :) |
| 22:45.14 | codefreeze | I knew it! you couldn't say that and keep a straight face! |
| 22:46.03 | blitzrage | :D |
| 22:46.09 | blitzrage | ya, I'm pretty evil |
| 22:48.15 | blitzrage | and now I'm going to test 1.4 to see if I get the same "zaptel port won't hang up" issue |
| 22:49.13 | blitzrage | hrmmm.... works fine in 1.4 |
| 22:49.16 | blitzrage | so I found a bug in trunk |
| 22:49.16 | blitzrage | yay |
| 23:31.30 | codefreeze | blitzrage: this was in trunk, right? |
| 23:31.43 | codefreeze | the ael stuff |
| 23:31.45 | blitzrage | yes sir |
| 23:44.28 | codefreeze | blitzrage: I committed some goodies to trunk. Try an update and a make and see if you still crash. |