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| 13:11.16 | blitzrage | jsmith: ! |
| 13:11.19 | blitzrage | you back home now? |
| 13:11.41 | jsmith | Yeah... |
| 13:11.49 | jsmith | And working on docs ;-) |
| 13:14.01 | blitzrage | nice :) |
| 13:14.05 | blitzrage | I'll be doing that soon again |
| 13:14.10 | blitzrage | gonna go get a run in first I think |
| 13:16.15 | blitzrage | back soon |
| 13:16.25 | blitzrage | just talking to mom on the phone, then I'm off for about 50 mins or so |
| 13:18.03 | jsmith | OK... ping me when you get back |
| 13:21.29 | file | moo |
| 13:25.40 | jsmith | Hey file... how's your Monday? |
| 13:25.43 | blitzrage | jsmith: will do |
| 13:25.54 | file | it's not toooo bad |
| 13:26.36 | jsmith | file: That's good to hear... |
| 13:30.33 | blitzrage | ok, finally off the phone |
| 13:30.57 | blitzrage | I'll try to be back soon... but if I don't get the run in now, then I'll be busy all day and won't get in before everyone gets back from work |
| 13:31.03 | blitzrage | then it'll be ridiculous in there |
| 13:31.17 | blitzrage | and I'm down 5 lbs since I got home! (which is still 5 lbs heavier than before I left :)) |
| 13:31.57 | jsmith | All that self-indulgence at AstriCon ;-) |
| 13:34.01 | blitzrage | haha... all that redbull and sitting for a month :) |
| 13:34.15 | blitzrage | astricon didn't help though either :) |
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| 14:52.25 | ctooley_ | what part of Asterisk uses port 2727? |
| 14:53.46 | file | MGCP |
| 14:54.24 | jsmith | ctooley_: What, your boxes have chan_mgcp loaded? |
| 14:54.39 | ctooley_ | yeah, guess they did. |
| 14:54.41 | ctooley_ | don't now. |
| 14:54.57 | file | my PBX has... 25 modules loaded |
| 15:00.37 | ctooley_ | there an easy way to change what the prompt in the CLI says? |
| 15:02.32 | jsmith | ctooley_: Yes |
| 15:03.41 | ctooley_ | and that would be.... ? |
| 15:04.43 | jsmith | ctooley_: Please hold while I take time out of my schedule to look it up ;-) |
| 15:05.32 | jsmith | Just kidding ;-) |
| 15:05.44 | jsmith | You set an environment variable named "ASTERISK_PROMPT" |
| 15:05.51 | jsmith | How's that for intuitive?!? |
| 15:06.35 | ctooley_ | oh, cool |
| 15:06.36 | ctooley_ | thank |
| 15:08.04 | jsmith | You can use %d for date, %s for system name (from asterisk.conf), %H and %h for hostname (long and short versions) |
| 15:08.10 | jsmith | Seems like there are a couple of others as well |
| 15:08.46 | jsmith | Oh yeah... %l1, %l2, and %l3 for 1,5, and 15 minute load averages :-) |
| 15:08.55 | ctooley_ | damn, can't make it persistent across reconnects |
| 15:09.08 | jsmith | Huh? |
| 15:09.50 | ctooley_ | whenever I change it at launch time and then reconnect to it, the prompt is back to what it used to be. |
| 15:10.17 | jsmith | I think you have to set it before you do "asterisk -r" |
| 15:10.43 | ctooley_ | yeah, I was hoping it would be set once |
| 15:10.57 | ctooley_ | I am trying to run several instances of asterisk on a single machine. |
| 15:11.16 | jsmith | Yeah... the whole "one console to rule them all" thing sucks... |
| 15:11.33 | ctooley_ | it's ok |
| 15:11.34 | jsmith | We need per-console verbosity, and per-console prompts |
| 15:11.41 | ctooley_ | yeh |
| 15:19.19 | ctooley_ | Well, we're seeing non-linear CPU utilization, so we're going to try concurrent instances of asterisk to see if we can get a more level growth model |
| 15:20.02 | ctooley_ | 200 bridged calls uses 100% of one CPU, 300 bridged calls uses 180%, 350 uses 270% |
| 15:23.04 | jsmith | ctooley_: That's normal... the more concurrent calls you have, the longer the channel lists, etc get. |
| 15:23.15 | jsmith | And the longer the linked-lists get, the more non-linearity you have ;-) |
| 15:24.04 | ctooley_ | right, so we're going to attempt to find the balance. |
| 15:24.31 | file | those lists aren't iterated really once the call is actually bridged |
| 15:24.46 | ctooley_ | file, well... something is. |
| 15:24.52 | file | I would throw oprofile on your system and profile it |
| 15:28.40 | Juggie | file, i'm on hold w/ rogers :( |
| 15:28.42 | Juggie | sigh |
| 15:29.32 | file | what did they do? |
| 15:29.56 | jsmith | Sill question for y'all... is G.722 8kHz or 16kHz? 8-bit samples or 16-bit? |
| 15:30.02 | jsmith | s/Sill/Silly/ |
| 15:30.13 | jsmith | I always get it wrong |
| 15:31.35 | wwalker | file it seems to be very much an N-squared thing with regards to open channels: 100 channels - 20%; 200 channels - 70%; 400 channels 270%. each doubling of channels almost quadruples the CPU usage |
| 15:32.01 | wwalker | note that we are handling the RTP stream. |
| 15:35.08 | file | in a generic bridge, or p2p? |
| 15:36.31 | Juggie | file, they are not showing leafs games in HD on nhl center ice |
| 15:36.33 | Juggie | but bell is |
| 15:36.46 | Juggie | (as i'm an out of region fan, since i live in ottawa) |
| 15:37.10 | Juggie | i have to buy nhl ci to see the regional games |
| 15:41.31 | Juggie | this on homd music sucks! :P |
| 15:41.34 | Juggie | *hold |
| 16:00.34 | ctooley_ | file, not sure, probably normal |
| 16:18.55 | blitzrage | Juggie: I still gotta complain about the crappy feed I got on Leafs TV the other day |
| 16:19.21 | blitzrage | but for now... I need to eat breakfast before my next call |
| 16:24.17 | Juggie | blitzrage, the guy denied rogers sportsnet was even doing the game in HD tonight |
| 16:24.26 | Juggie | and they are.. sigh, a 30min conversation was a waste of time |
| 16:26.29 | Juggie | blitzrage, can you take a peak for a sportsnetHD2 channel, or something that says where the game will be on in HD tonight. |
| 16:49.46 | blitzrage | Juggie: I can look -- they are talking about it on hockeycentral :) |
| 16:49.59 | blitzrage | they say channel 502 or 500... but 502 says baseball, and 500 is Leafs TV HD |
| 16:50.09 | blitzrage | let me go look in the sports section and see where the game is |
| 16:52.39 | blitzrage | Juggie: just looked... 822... but that doesn't look like HD |
| 16:52.45 | blitzrage | so I don't think it's on an HD channel at all tonight |
| 16:57.10 | Juggie | blitzrage, if you go to sportsnet.ca it is in hd on the schedule |
| 16:57.19 | Juggie | blitzrage, isnt 822 bev? |
| 16:57.19 | blitzrage | which channel? |
| 16:57.23 | Juggie | doesnt say |
| 16:57.27 | blitzrage | 822 is SnetO |
| 16:57.30 | Juggie | but i assume it will be an alternate HD channel |
| 16:57.35 | blitzrage | which I think is an alternate 022 channel |
| 16:57.38 | blitzrage | I don't think it's HD |
| 16:57.48 | Juggie | oh ya, 822 = Analog 22 |
| 16:57.49 | blitzrage | and my guide doesn't say (HD), like the other HD channels |
| 16:58.04 | blitzrage | its on like... 22, 422, and 822 |
| 16:58.31 | Juggie | what is the label on channel 500, leafstv hd? |
| 17:00.28 | blitzrage | yep |
| 17:00.37 | Juggie | hmmm |
| 17:00.58 | Juggie | check the 500 series see if they added a channel there or check 501 and see if its on there |
| 17:06.20 | blitzrage | 501 looks like a preview channel I think |
| 17:06.49 | Juggie | ya i know but they might stick the game on there rather then create a second channel |
| 17:07.01 | Juggie | if you look @ the sportsnet.ca schedule, it says the game is in HD |
| 17:07.17 | file | sports people. |
| 17:07.20 | blitzrage | gotcha... no idea what channel -- the guide doesn't say so |
| 17:07.53 | file | what am I looking for and at what time? |
| 17:08.06 | blitzrage | NHL Hockey |
| 17:08.10 | blitzrage | Leafs vs. Buffalo |
| 17:08.14 | blitzrage | in HD |
| 17:08.16 | blitzrage | on Rogers |
| 17:08.17 | blitzrage | :) |
| 17:09.15 | Juggie | you found it? |
| 17:09.33 | blitzrage | I did not -- I was telling file what to look for |
| 17:09.38 | blitzrage | I'm not in the living room |
| 17:09.53 | Juggie | blitzrage, http://www2.sportsnet.ca/tvschedule/franchise/mapleleafs_sked.xls |
| 17:12.04 | file | my guide does not have in HD |
| 17:12.10 | file | only in regular |
| 17:12.13 | blitzrage | same here |
| 17:13.01 | Juggie | oh you mean the guide isnt in HD? |
| 17:13.30 | blitzrage | I do not see it on any HD channels |
| 17:13.41 | file | I do not either |
| 17:13.56 | Juggie | its rogers first time doing regional HD |
| 17:13.58 | blitzrage | whether the schedule says it on the sportsnet site or not... |
| 17:14.00 | Juggie | so i'll be suprised if it works |
| 17:14.03 | blitzrage | it won't |
| 17:14.13 | Juggie | TSN is also doing regional HD this year as well blitzrage |
| 17:14.21 | Juggie | so you'll get TSN-HD leafs regional games |
| 17:14.28 | blitzrage | that'd be nice |
| 17:14.34 | blitzrage | the whole thing is dumb |
| 17:15.17 | Juggie | yes. |
| 17:15.23 | Juggie | i wonder if i could get bell express vu |
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| 18:32.35 | blitzrage | does anyone even use dialplan switches anymore... ? |
| 18:54.37 | ctooley_ | blitzrage, easiest way to use Realtime for the dialplan (and yes, there are still uses of Realtime that make sense) |
| 18:54.55 | blitzrage | I use realtime all the time, but don't use switches |
| 18:55.17 | blitzrage | and I'd love to know of an example of dialplan in realtime which makes sense |
| 18:56.50 | ctooley_ | autoprovisioned virtual hosting |
| 18:57.30 | ctooley_ | I think we're going to go a different route altogether though. |
| 18:58.07 | blitzrage | ewww |
| 18:58.10 | blitzrage | I use func_odbc instead |
| 18:58.12 | file | there are much better routes to go down then a realtime dialplan |
| 18:58.15 | blitzrage | then I don't have to reload the dialplan |
| 18:58.30 | blitzrage | I can't think of a single, practical example of dialplan in realtime |
| 18:58.53 | blitzrage | so back to my original question -- do people actually use dialplan switches at all anymore? |
| 18:58.58 | blitzrage | they seem so old |
| 19:00.24 | ctooley_ | Well, I'm not a big fan of the dialplan to begin with. It's clunky and cludgy so I'd rather have something to write the dialplan for me and then just write the whole thing to the database so I can just read it to change it. With Realtime static you don't have to read the database constantly but you get the advantage to putting your config in a database instead of a flat file. |
| 19:02.48 | blitzrage | see I tried that approach, and I found the dialplan a lot easier to write, than to write PHP code (or whatever) generate dialplan logic for me |
| 19:02.56 | blitzrage | I write some crazy dialplans though |
| 19:07.01 | wwalker | the problem with realtime is it's still the clunky dial plan language. |
| 19:07.05 | ctooley_ | The point of this thing isn't to write crazy dialplans, it's to provide the users the ability to write simple dialplans. Like the asterisk-ui |
| 19:07.31 | ctooley_ | Except scaling to a lot more customers than I want in flat files. |
| 19:08.02 | blitzrage | gotcha -- I don't let my customers write dialplan logic :) |
| 19:08.14 | blitzrage | and I guess I've written so much dialplan logic that I don't find it clunky anymore |
| 19:08.34 | ctooley_ | And I don't want to write dialplan logic for 4000 business customers |
| 19:10.58 | blitzrage | it all depends what you do I suppose |
| 19:11.26 | ctooley_ | I don't do dialplan config if I can get away with not doing it. :) |
| 19:12.56 | blitzrage | I see -- I love writing dialplan logic and solving things that way, so I try to get as much of it as I can :) |
| 19:13.15 | blitzrage | I like someone saying... "hey... create app_voicemail in dialplan logic", and then I go off and try to figure out how to do it :) |
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| 19:44.07 | blitzrage | hoi |
| 19:44.18 | Alric | You've used OpenSER right? |
| 19:47.57 | blitzrage | yes, I've used it |
| 19:48.21 | Alric | Does it have a console or anything where you can see whats happening? |
| 19:48.30 | blitzrage | ummmm... tail -f /var/log/messages :) |
| 19:48.30 | Alric | Or do you pretty much have to load up wireshark? |
| 19:48.38 | blitzrage | wireshark is the easiest |
| 19:48.43 | blitzrage | there is a console... but it's not what you think it is |
| 19:48.50 | blitzrage | openserctl I think |
| 19:49.01 | blitzrage | doesn't exist |
| 19:49.09 | blitzrage | openser is very raw |
| 19:49.13 | jsmith-away | openser + ngrep |
| 19:49.53 | Alric | My phone thinks its registered. I have no idea what SER thinks. The endpoint SER is supposed to be routing to says no registery. |
| 19:50.34 | blitzrage | look in the location table I think |
| 19:51.06 | Alric | I don't really have MySQL enabled. Just telling OpenSER to route all traffic it receives to another IP. |
| 19:54.48 | file | blitzrage: which OpenSER version are you using? |
| 19:54.57 | blitzrage | ummm... 1.1 I think... ? |
| 19:54.58 | blitzrage | ya... 1.1 |
| 19:55.04 | blitzrage | 1.2 was... not a simple upgrade :) |
| 19:55.14 | blitzrage | (in terms of how the openser.cfg was created) |
| 19:55.30 | file | erm 1.3 |
| 19:55.36 | blitzrage | o i c |
| 19:55.46 | blitzrage | I have so little experience with OpenSER really |
| 19:55.51 | Alric | I'm using 1.2.2 |
| 19:56.02 | blitzrage | I know how to install it and copy the configs into the /etc/openser dir :) |
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| 20:45.13 | Juggie | blitzrage, game is gonna be on the preview channel, 501 |
| 20:45.24 | blitzrage | ok, good to know |
| 20:45.29 | Juggie | well, 501 or 502 |
| 20:45.35 | blitzrage | I'm gonna have to record it since I'm going over to talk to my friend Amanda for a bit |
| 20:45.38 | blitzrage | lol |
| 20:45.42 | blitzrage | 502 is gonna be baseball |
| 20:45.50 | Juggie | http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=50576&page=3 |
| 20:46.17 | Juggie | (last post) |
| 20:47.44 | blitzrage | ugh.... so confusing |
| 20:47.49 | blitzrage | my cable box tells me 502 is baseball |
| 20:47.53 | blitzrage | which is not helpful at all |
| 20:48.18 | Juggie | well you have the HDPVR anyways |
| 20:48.19 | Juggie | record both |
| 20:48.54 | Juggie | blitzrage, if you expect amanda to be able to explain paula |
| 20:48.57 | Juggie | you would be sadly mistaken |
| 20:49.01 | Juggie | girls dont even understand girls |
| 20:49.11 | blitzrage | I know -- and I'd rather not talk about it in here |
| 20:51.45 | ctooley_ | is there no longer an inbound limit setting at all? |
| 20:51.48 | ctooley_ | for SIP? |
| 20:51.55 | blitzrage | no -- just call-limit |
| 20:52.04 | blitzrage | no separate outbound/inbound limits |
| 20:52.09 | blitzrage | unless you use GROUP() and GROUP_COUNT() |
| 20:52.37 | ctooley_ | damn |
| 20:52.43 | ctooley_ | I need an inbound only limiit |
| 20:52.45 | ctooley_ | limit |
| 20:54.46 | blitzrage | sorry :( |
| 20:55.26 | ctooley_ | not your fault. |
| 20:55.30 | ctooley_ | yet another thing to implement |
| 20:55.38 | ctooley_ | GROUP isn't going to work for us. |
| 20:58.16 | blitzrage | yay... I'm in a queue with no hold music :) |
| 21:10.12 | Alric | Hey, get out of my queue! |
| 21:10.55 | blitzrage | :) |
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| 21:36.07 | jsmith | Hey! |
| 22:16.07 | blitzrage | jsmith: wb |
| 22:17.15 | ctooley_ | blitzrage, there are worse things, I'm on hold with bad salsa music |
| 22:17.34 | blitzrage | ctooley_: say it ain't so! |
| 22:18.16 | blitzrage | I doubt that.... |
| 22:18.26 | blitzrage | I think you'd start doing that... then realize how bad an idea it was :) |
| 22:18.57 | blitzrage | my mom is funny... she is excited she got a new radial arm saw |
| 22:19.14 | file | lol |
| 22:23.21 | blitzrage | anyone in here know how to make asterisk get me free calls? |
| 22:23.39 | blitzrage | I wanna be a l33t h4x0r |
| 22:23.48 | file | I'll give you free calls, for the low price of $999.95/mth |
| 22:23.49 | blitzrage | like ma bell, I got the ill communication! |
| 22:24.09 | blitzrage | I'm a poor student... I need everything free! |
| 22:24.22 | blitzrage | file: you can make me the next Vonage, yes?! |
| 22:24.30 | file | I *could* but I choose not to |
| 22:24.46 | blitzrage | give me your IP address! |
| 22:24.48 | blitzrage | I hack you good! |
| 22:25.01 | file | I have many IPs! |
| 22:25.05 | file | I'm *that* elite. |
| 22:25.19 | blitzrage | I got your IP! |
| 22:25.24 | blitzrage | I hack 127.0.0.1 real good! |
| 22:25.30 | blitzrage | prepare to have your server hacked! |
| 22:25.46 | file | I even have a /64 |
| 22:25.48 | file | ... |
| 22:25.51 | blitzrage | oh snap |
| 22:25.53 | file | IPv6 that is |
| 22:26.07 | blitzrage | :) |
| 22:26.09 | file | and almost every computer in the apt is reachable over it too |
| 22:26.18 | blitzrage | hawt |
| 22:26.25 | blitzrage | you r l33t file |
| 22:26.30 | blitzrage | s/you/u/ |
| 22:26.38 | file | 2001:470:1f05:42:211:11ff:fecc:8fb7 if you want to hack my workstation :D |
| 22:26.47 | blitzrage | I do! |
| 22:26.59 | blitzrage | those IP addresses are gonna be impossible to say over the phone.... |
| 22:27.06 | file | thank god for DNS |
| 22:27.17 | blitzrage | until you're trying to fix the DNS :) |
| 22:28.40 | file | if I was *really* geeky I would allocate a few IPs from my server blocks to the apt |
| 22:29.19 | file | so how is blitzrage today? |
| 22:29.28 | blitzrage | meh... not too bad I suppose |
| 22:29.31 | blitzrage | went to the gym twice today |
| 22:29.45 | blitzrage | now the inside of my shins hurt |
| 22:29.51 | file | with whom? |
| 22:30.27 | blitzrage | just with me |
| 22:30.36 | file | eep |
| 22:30.53 | blitzrage | I have no room mate to go with |
| 22:33.11 | file | don't you have... friends? |
| 22:35.21 | blitzrage | not really |
| 22:35.28 | file | awww |
| 22:35.32 | file | I'm your friend! |
| 22:36.22 | blitzrage | but you're not here :) |
| 22:36.36 | file | I could be! |
| 22:37.13 | file | I might exist in both places at once |
| 22:38.29 | blitzrage | you might... but the probability is extremely low |