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| 13:57.04 | file | well hey blitzrage |
| 13:57.17 | blitzrage | well hello there file |
| 13:57.26 | file | how are you! |
| 13:57.42 | blitzrage | I just woke up |
| 13:57.55 | file | eep |
| 14:00.13 | blitzrage | tasty! |
| 14:00.35 | file | Mirabel airport is like a void for packages coming to here... they end up there and then no further tracking until delivery |
| 14:00.36 | file | so lame. |
| 14:00.39 | blitzrage | hrmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 14:00.46 | blitzrage | for some reason no websites will load.... |
| 14:01.01 | blitzrage | wait... not any.... just.... a bunch |
| 14:01.05 | blitzrage | slashdot loads fine |
| 14:01.43 | blitzrage | that is what seems like is happening |
| 14:01.45 | blitzrage | very annoying |
| 14:01.51 | file | use OpenDNS |
| 14:03.35 | blitzrage | FC8 is out finally |
| 14:03.47 | blitzrage | the funny thing is I think I'm using OpenDNS :) |
| 14:04.04 | file | 208.67.222.222? |
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| 14:14.46 | lmadsen | hrmmmmmmmmmm |
| 14:14.50 | lmadsen | I disconnected |
| 14:15.06 | file | you did. |
| 14:17.31 | lmadsen | which is probably why no one was talking to me :) |
| 14:17.38 | lmadsen | hrmmmmmmmmmmmm, what to work on today |
| 14:17.44 | lmadsen | I guess this Q&A tool thing |
| 14:17.49 | lmadsen | yay programming in PHP... |
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| 14:29.30 | file | o.o |
| 14:32.10 | blitz[bad] | wow... apparently my Internet connection is ... teh crap |
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| 14:58.27 | file | hey jsmith! |
| 14:58.40 | jsmith | hey file |
| 14:58.46 | jsmith | What's up? |
| 14:58.53 | file | contemplating food |
| 14:58.54 | file | u? |
| 14:59.15 | jsmith | How does "sip show channels concise" sound to you? |
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| 15:02.59 | lmadsen | ugh... the internet here SUCKS today |
| 15:03.53 | file | lmadsen: :( |
| 15:04.31 | lmadsen | welp, time to go make a bowl of cereal and see if the Internet drops by the time I get back |
| 15:05.23 | lmadsen | then I gotta figure out what to work on today... I got a project from CustDev, but it's programming in PHP (not exactly my forte), so I guess I should work on some documentation |
| 15:05.35 | lmadsen | we'll see... back in a bit |
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| 15:23.07 | lmadsen | hrmm... so far so good |
| 15:23.26 | jsmith | Oh? |
| 15:23.32 | lmadsen | it seems to drop when I download a lot of stuff... so maybe it's my VPN (although it seemed to be fine yesterday) |
| 15:23.48 | jsmith | I threatened to update my internet connection yesterday, and now it's working great |
| 15:24.01 | lmadsen | heh |
| 15:24.02 | jsmith | (Too bad Sprint was in the middle of a billing system upgrade, so they couldn't activate my new card) |
| 15:24.12 | jsmith | I'm almost done downloading Fedora 8 |
| 15:24.20 | jsmith | (which rocks, btw) |
| 15:24.41 | jsmith | Finally, it just works... no twiddling with a thousand stupid little settings |
| 15:26.20 | lmadsen | nice! |
| 15:27.47 | jsmith | Yeah, I've been running rawhide on my desktop for a week or two now |
| 15:27.52 | jsmith | And it's been *very* nice |
| 15:28.04 | jsmith | So now I'm gonna throw it on my PowerBook |
| 15:28.12 | file | jsmith: nw card? |
| 15:28.14 | file | erm new card |
| 15:29.31 | jsmith | file: EVDO Revision A -- faster speeds (mostly on the upload side), supposedly lower latency |
| 15:30.10 | jsmith | I've got the card, but it requires a Windows laptop to provision |
| 15:30.17 | jsmith | And I don't have a Windows laptop |
| 15:30.53 | jsmith | (My tower just got upgraded to Rev. A) |
| 15:46.58 | lmadsen | I'm downloading a big file... lets see how long until my Internet drops :) |
| 15:59.27 | lmadsen | wow, it didn't drop |
| 15:59.38 | lmadsen | must have something to do with the VPN since I'm not using it anymore |
| 15:59.39 | lmadsen | booo |
| 15:59.43 | file | lmadsen: O.O |
| 16:00.02 | lmadsen | o.O |
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| 16:37.01 | blitz[bad] | yay... Internet dropping |
| 16:38.58 | blitz[bad] | and why the heck can't I get to bugs.digium.com ? grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 16:38.58 | blitz[bad] | I'm having a bad Internet day |
| 16:40.27 | jsmith | Works for me... |
| 16:40.35 | jsmith | What IP does "host bugs.digium.com" give you? |
| 16:41.41 | blitz[bad] | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:41.45 | blitz[bad] | doesn't load for me on the VPN either |
| 16:42.18 | file | fine here over the VPN |
| 16:42.24 | blitz[bad] | ya, I don't know |
| 16:42.28 | blitz[bad] | my Internet is BS today |
| 16:42.31 | jsmith | Fine here over the VPN, or outside the VPN |
| 16:42.35 | file | blitz[bad]: some higher power does not wish you to work today |
| 16:42.40 | blitz[bad] | no kidding |
| 16:42.42 | jsmith | blitz[bad]: Traceroute to 216.27.40.102? |
| 16:42.48 | file | HA |
| 16:42.57 | jsmith | Did you manually add an entry for it in /etc/hosts? |
| 16:42.59 | file | my Sipura ATA made it to the local UPS depot |
| 16:43.21 | blitz[bad] | jsmith: nope |
| 16:43.21 | blitz[bad] | can someone msg me a link to the latest ABE beta? |
| 16:43.29 | blitz[bad] | hawt... traceroute does nothing |
| 16:43.38 | jsmith | blitz[bad]: Seriously? |
| 16:43.46 | blitz[bad] | jsmith: no, I'm lieing |
| 16:44.11 | file | jsmith: we seem to be losing him, let's try Microsoft therapy |
| 16:44.11 | jsmith | snarky ;-) |
| 16:44.20 | blitz[bad] | other websites load fine though |
| 16:44.25 | jsmith | blitz[bad]: Where would you like to bug today? |
| 16:44.34 | file | jsmith: meeting today, or no? |
| 16:45.01 | jsmith | file: Yeah... what time works best for you? |
| 16:45.09 | blitz[bad] | I was thinking of getting a copy of ABE beta and trying to write the installation instructions, but dwayne isn't around and I don't have the link memorized |
| 16:45.12 | jsmith | (I haven't heard back from said party, but I"m sure they're anxious) |
| 16:45.25 | jsmith | blitz[bad]: Just log into the portal |
| 16:45.33 | file | well I wanna sit in on the voip users conference... and play with T38 stuff... so pick a time |
| 16:45.34 | blitz[bad] | what portal? |
| 16:45.56 | jsmith | file: Let's say 2:30pm EDT, 3:30 your time? |
| 16:45.59 | jsmith | file: Does that work? |
| 16:46.24 | file | yes |
| 16:47.42 | blitz[bad] | where is this said mentioned portal? |
| 16:47.58 | file | digium.com? |
| 16:48.10 | blitz[bad] | I can't find it |
| 16:48.27 | file | you log in, and depending on your access can see different things |
| 16:48.38 | blitz[bad] | I see |
| 16:48.46 | blitz[bad] | stupid forgetting to login |
| 16:50.10 | blitz[bad] | thought there was a newer beta than '1' out.... |
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| 16:52.16 | lmadsen | gah! and a 404... handy :) |
| 16:52.21 | file | lmadsen: I am the higher power that keeps doing this to you btw |
| 16:53.18 | lmadsen | makes sense |
| 17:54.08 | file | jsmith: mutex processes! |
| 17:54.20 | jsmith | file: Oh? |
| 18:17.00 | jsmith | file: Channel-attached mutexes? |
| 18:17.12 | file | nope. |
| 18:17.32 | file | I'm counting how many times unixdog talks about this |
| 18:19.26 | file | jsmith: what conf we usink later? |
| 18:21.23 | jsmith | file: Not sure... how do I reserve one? |
| 18:21.28 | jsmith | file: Or we can use the Sokol one |
| 18:21.32 | file | I don't know |
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| 18:25.58 | file | blitzrage: wb |
| 18:26.19 | blitzrage | pffft |
| 18:30.29 | blitzrage | yay! |
| 18:30.29 | blitzrage | $250.00 CDN = $271.03 USD |
| 18:30.31 | blitzrage | :) |
| 18:30.36 | blitzrage | $1.00 USD = $0.9224 CDN |
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| 19:22.34 | file | blitzrage: I just want ... |
| 19:22.40 | blitzrage | ! ! ! |
| 19:35.03 | jsmith | file: What do you want? |
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| 19:36.35 | jsmith | file: You want blitzrage? |
| 19:36.43 | file | well, no |
| 19:37.39 | jsmith | I'd be happy to... I have analog cards, I've got a fax machine, and I've got a really crummy analog phone line (that lost dialtone for an hour or so today) |
| 19:38.05 | jsmith | So I've got the perfect test lab! |
| 19:38.15 | file | ... perfect ... |
| 19:38.38 | jsmith | If you build it, I'll test it |
| 19:39.05 | Alric | pcre_free mean anything to anyone? |
| 19:39.20 | file | sounds like a function from the pcre library... perl regular expression parser |
| 19:39.33 | file | I could be wrong |
| 19:39.38 | Alric | Well it worked yesterday. Today it does not :( |
| 19:40.14 | jsmith | In PHP code? |
| 19:40.32 | Alric | <?echo "test";?> no longer works :( |
| 19:41.04 | Alric | Its really weird. |
| 19:41.11 | Alric | Apache won't start, php won't execute any scripts |
| 19:41.19 | Alric | But there has been nothing installed since yesterday. |
| 19:41.35 | blitzrage | you have some of the strangest issues |
| 19:41.41 | Alric | Yep. |
| 19:41.44 | blitzrage | bad memory? |
| 19:41.51 | blitzrage | either that, or something was installed |
| 19:42.02 | Alric | How would bad memory affect a library loading? |
| 19:42.07 | blitzrage | it makes little sense for it to just stop working for no reason |
| 19:42.10 | Alric | Or its ability to load, over several shutdowns/startups? |
| 19:42.16 | jsmith | Alric: Why doesn't apache start? |
| 19:42.24 | jsmith | Alric: Does the cli version of PHP execute that code? |
| 19:42.27 | Alric | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:48.36 | jsmith | Alric: It looks like you've updated your PCRE libraries in a non-good way |
| 20:49.12 | jsmith | Alric: Check your version of the "pcre" RPM |
| 20:50.49 | Alric | Release: 4.el4_5.1 |
| 20:51.06 | Alric | Looks like there are two versions. |
| 20:51.19 | Alric | Or yum is messed up. |
| 20:51.34 | Alric | Comes back with 1 of that release #, and another with a release # of Release: 3.2.RHEL4 |
| 20:55.19 | jsmith | rpm -qa | grep pcre |
| 20:56.31 | Alric | pcre-4.5-3.2.RHEL4 |
| 20:56.31 | Alric | pcre-4.5-4.el4_5.1 |
| 20:57.12 | Alric | yum.log shows no activity since October. |
| 20:57.20 | jsmith | Yeah.... looks like some wiseguy installed an extra RPM |
| 20:57.35 | Alric | But my pcre library shows it was last updated on Nov 6. |
| 20:57.40 | jsmith | The RHEL4 is the official RH/CentOS version |
| 20:57.50 | jsmith | pcre-4.5-4.el4_5.1 is not |
| 20:57.57 | jsmith | So I'd axe that wone |
| 20:58.02 | jsmith | s/wone/one/ |
| 20:58.05 | Alric | Any idea how it got installed? |
| 20:58.17 | jsmith | grep pcre /var/log/messages |
| 20:59.07 | Alric | Just lots of http startup errors |
| 20:59.48 | Alric | Nada :/ |
| 20:59.57 | jsmith | Oh, wait! |
| 21:00.06 | Alric | ?? |
| 21:00.11 | jsmith | See http://www.linuxsecurity.com/content/view/130480/ |
| 21:00.15 | brac | [RedHat: Critical: pcre security update - The Community's Center for Security] |
| 21:00.42 | Alric | heh |
| 21:00.45 | Alric | The one I just removed. |
| 21:00.54 | jsmith | The el4_5.1 is a security update |
| 21:00.56 | Alric | Oh great. |
| 21:01.00 | Alric | yum doesn't work now. |
| 21:01.01 | jsmith | "yum update pcre" |
| 21:01.08 | jsmith | Yum doesn't work? |
| 21:01.10 | Alric | Nope |
| 21:01.15 | Alric | pâ¿python: Objects/stringobject.c:110: PyString_FromString: Assertion `str != ((void *)0)' failed. |
| 21:01.41 | jsmith | Manually download the updated pcre RPM, and apply it by hand |
| 21:02.35 | Juggie | rpm -ivH my.rpm |
| 21:02.54 | Alric | Yeah, gotta hunt it down |
| 21:03.08 | Alric | Everyone just says "yum for it" |
| 21:03.10 | Alric | Well... |
| 21:04.18 | Juggie | updating outside your package manager |
| 21:04.26 | Juggie | i'd shoot who ever did that to my servers |
| 21:04.52 | Alric | Thing is, no one even has access to this machine except me :/ |
| 21:06.06 | Alric | argh |
| 21:06.48 | Alric | Think removing pcre screwed up yum? |
| 21:06.48 | Juggie | what version of centos are you running? |
| 21:06.48 | Juggie | 4.5? |
| 21:06.53 | Alric | Yep |
| 21:07.29 | Juggie | [root@TRN-ASTX-GTW1 ~]# rpm -qa|grep pcre |
| 21:07.29 | Juggie | pcre-4.5-3.2.RHEL4 |
| 21:07.29 | Juggie | [root@TRN-ASTX-GTW1 ~]# |
| 21:07.32 | Juggie | thats all i have |
| 21:07.49 | Alric | the heck |
| 21:07.52 | Alric | rpm doesn't know -ivH |
| 21:07.57 | Juggie | er, ivh |
| 21:07.59 | Juggie | typo |
| 21:08.02 | Alric | ok, yeah. |
| 21:08.31 | Alric | well ffs |
| 21:08.42 | Juggie | error? |
| 21:08.47 | Alric | Yeah, conflicts |
| 21:08.52 | jsmith | Alric: Don't "ivh" it -- "Uvh" it |
| 21:08.52 | Juggie | paste |
| 21:09.06 | Alric | Uvh worked |
| 21:09.15 | Alric | Yum works again |
| 21:09.25 | Juggie | ah, the previous guy must of ivh'ed with a force |
| 21:09.31 | Alric | PHP works again. |
| 21:09.32 | Juggie | which is why you had two versions installed |
| 21:09.36 | Alric | Thats the thing, there is no previous guy :/ |
| 21:09.49 | Juggie | well someone installed the security update! :) |
| 21:10.02 | Alric | Are security updates not logged in yum.log? |
| 21:10.08 | Alric | If done through yum? |
| 21:10.21 | Alric | I found the rpm in yum's cache folder. |
| 21:11.25 | Juggie | odd |
| 21:12.17 | Alric | Yeah. |
| 21:12.36 | Alric | Well, least its fixed. |
| 21:13.37 | Juggie | indeed |
| 21:13.49 | Juggie | it looks like the original problem is two versions of the lib were installed |
| 21:13.53 | Alric | Yeah. |
| 21:14.02 | Alric | Now what caused this :( |
| 21:14.51 | Juggie | have you tried centos5 yet? |
| 21:14.56 | Juggie | i've been running it quite sucessfully |
| 21:15.06 | Juggie | probally going to roll it onto some dev servers soon |
| 22:08.49 | Alric | Seems to be working fine. Hrm. Maybe its only 1 machine. |
| 22:11.42 | jsmith | Juggie: Why, when RHEL 5.1 just came out ;-) |
| 22:11.59 | jsmith | Juggie: I'm waiting for CentOS 5.1 to really dive into CentOS 5 on production servers |
| 22:12.02 | Juggie | because rhel5 costs money :) |
| 22:12.10 | jsmith | (especially with the new version of Xen) |
| 22:12.17 | jsmith | Hence the reason I'm waiting for CentOS 5.1 |
| 22:12.25 | Juggie | centos wont necessairly follow redhats releases |
| 22:12.31 | jsmith | Sure they will |
| 22:12.34 | Juggie | there was no rhel4.1 .2 .3 .4 .5 |
| 22:12.38 | Juggie | that i am aware of |
| 22:12.43 | jsmith | Yes, there was |
| 22:12.49 | jsmith | They called them "updates" |
| 22:13.02 | Juggie | oh, well then :) |
| 22:13.03 | jsmith | RHEL 4 Update 4 was the same as CentOS 4.4 |
| 22:13.08 | Juggie | ah ic. |
| 22:13.11 | Juggie | well carry on then :) |
| 22:16.20 | Juggie | jsmith, do you still maintain a zillion centos boxes? |
| 22:16.49 | jsmith | Juggie: Nope... I maintain exactly one now... beats the 6600 I *was* maintaining |
| 22:17.05 | jsmith | (which has now grown to over 10,000) |
| 22:17.14 | Juggie | eugh, which company is this? |
| 22:18.50 | jsmith | Omniture |
| 22:18.54 | Juggie | i thought 20 was bad |
| 22:18.55 | jsmith | ~quote OMTR |
| 22:19.14 | jsmith | Wow... down to 28 from 36 a week or two ago |
| 22:19.36 | jsmith | I could have stuck around and made a grundle on the IPO ... but that's water under the bridge now I guess |
| 22:20.07 | Juggie | :( |
| 22:20.11 | file | ~quote VMW |
| 22:25.21 | Juggie | hmmm... too many centos updates, taking all afternoon to rsync |
| 22:27.07 | Juggie | 53gig centos mirror and all it has is centos 4.5 & 5 i386/64bit no isos |
| 22:29.04 | Juggie | nm it includes isos too |
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