| 00:05.37 | jsmith-teaching | Dinner time! |
| 00:51.42 | blitzrage | CLI appendix done! |
| 00:51.48 | blitzrage | I was pretty close to my 2 hour estimation |
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| 02:20.41 | file | jsmith_: ohai |
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| 02:21.15 | jsmith | file: iaho? |
| 02:21.23 | jsmith | blitzrage: Doc party! |
| 02:21.27 | file | how is jsmith tonight? |
| 02:21.34 | jsmith | Tired |
| 02:21.47 | jsmith | But the show must go on... so I must hack on docs 'til the wee hours |
| 02:21.53 | file | I feel the same! |
| 02:22.36 | jsmith | You feel like hacking on docs? |
| 02:22.48 | file | you should know the answer to that |
| 02:23.05 | jsmith | I know the answer |
| 02:23.10 | jsmith | I still had to ask though ;-) |
| 02:28.06 | blitzrage | jsmith: howdy! |
| 02:28.33 | blitzrage | just got back form the gym |
| 02:29.07 | blitzrage | and just turned the 3rd period of the Leafs game (didn't even know they were playing) |
| 02:31.59 | jsmith | I see... |
| 02:32.09 | jsmith | blitzrage: Time for me to hack on docs! (again) |
| 02:32.19 | blitzrage | I finished one of the appendices today... |
| 02:32.32 | blitzrage | I can't believe it's 9:30pm already |
| 02:32.46 | file | but it's 8:38PM |
| 02:32.50 | blitzrage | jsmith: I'd work on the apps app. with you, but I have a headache.... :( |
| 02:32.55 | blitzrage | maybe tomorrow night |
| 02:33.07 | blitzrage | we can jump on a conference call and bang out some verbiage |
| 02:33.14 | jsmith | OK... I'll get everything in place tonight |
| 02:33.53 | blitzrage | k coo |
| 02:57.27 | jsmith | Thanks... |
| 02:58.19 | file | where are you staying? |
| 02:59.52 | jsmith | Holiday Inn |
| 02:59.56 | file | ah |
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| 15:30.39 | blitzrage | morning all |
| 15:31.25 | file | ohai |
| 15:31.57 | blitzrage | well hello there |
| 15:32.49 | file | who let you in here? |
| 15:44.43 | blitzrage | I did! |
| 15:45.09 | file | oic |
| 15:46.02 | file | ...eep |
| 15:46.49 | blitzrage | ya... watch out! |
| 15:51.56 | file | blitzrage is so lame |
| 15:52.10 | blitzrage | I hadn't heard that. I heard he was a really cool fellow. |
| 15:52.17 | blitzrage | ~blitzrage |
| 15:52.18 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, blitzrage is a super cool fellow |
| 15:52.24 | blitzrage | oh... super cool! |
| 15:53.19 | jsmith | ~jsmith |
| 15:53.19 | jbot | you are, like, perpetually hungry, or the author of Asterisk: The Future of Telephony |
| 15:53.27 | jsmith | ~file |
| 15:53.52 | blitzrage | jbot: file is lame |
| 15:54.06 | jsmith | jbot: file is also one froopy dude |
| 15:54.14 | blitzrage | haha |
| 15:54.33 | blitzrage | hrmmm.... 'file' is a reserved word |
| 15:54.58 | jsmith | ~file libcurl.so |
| 15:55.11 | jsmith | ~file curl |
| 15:55.22 | jsmith | ~help file |
| 15:59.51 | jsmith | blitzrage: Did you see I got the app reference in last night? |
| 16:00.12 | jsmith | blitzrage: There are duplicates and the list of apps needs to be vetted against ABE, but it's a start |
| 16:01.23 | blitzrage | jsmith: sweet! I hadn't gotten that far. I've got an ABE setup, so I can compare that against the file and remove the dupes and things we don't need |
| 16:02.33 | jsmith | blitzrage: OK... FYI, the first 70 came from the old ABE documentation, and the other 160 came from my 1.4 box |
| 16:02.53 | jsmith | blitzrage: I'll work on it as time permits, but for right now I'm stuck teaching |
| 16:03.14 | jsmith | blitzrage: I think we should be OK to use the same syntax sections from ATFOT, so that'll save us some time. |
| 16:03.19 | blitzrage | ok.......... so that sounds like it needs to be redone against a real ABE box |
| 16:03.25 | jsmith | blitzrage: We'll just need to write new descriptions, etc. |
| 16:03.57 | jsmith | blitzrage: (Unless we talk Mike into letting us use all that stuff... which I was thinking about last night) |
| 16:04.39 | blitzrage | I think Digium and O'Reilly should have an agreement at least between the appendices... plus all this duplicating work is just stupid |
| 16:05.02 | blitzrage | Digium supports TFoT, and O'Reilly should in turn support Digium -- everyone wins |
| 16:05.06 | blitzrage | (in documentation) |
| 16:05.14 | blitzrage | but what the hell do I know... I'm just a documenteur |
| 16:31.38 | jsmith-busy | blitzrage: I'll query Mike about that right now |
| 16:34.51 | blitzrage | coolio -- keep me posted (maybe CC me on it?) |
| 16:48.53 | jsmith-busy | blitzrage: Done! |
| 16:49.11 | jsmith-busy | blitzrage: Your food show up yet? |
| 16:49.22 | blitzrage | nada yet :( |
| 16:49.27 | blitzrage | starting to get hungry... |
| 16:49.36 | blitzrage | I think I have enough milk for half a bowl of cereal and some pickles.... :) |
| 16:50.00 | blitzrage | think I have it scheduled for 12-2 |
| 16:52.55 | jsmith-busy | Ah, nice |
| 16:53.51 | blitzrage | its snowing out now |
| 16:54.17 | jsmith-busy | w00t! |
| 16:54.24 | jsmith-busy | Let it snow! Let it snow! LET IT SNOW! |
| 16:54.34 | jsmith-busy | Oh, did you see Steve Sokol's email? |
| 16:54.41 | blitzrage | nada |
| 16:54.48 | blitzrage | never got one |
| 16:56.27 | blitzrage | ya... I see no such email... ? |
| 16:56.29 | blitzrage | is this a new one? |
| 16:56.44 | jsmith-busy | Yes |
| 16:56.53 | blitzrage | guess I wasn't included in it |
| 16:56.59 | jsmith-busy | Basically, he's still without power from the ice storm, and will probably be 7 to 10 days without power. |
| 16:57.08 | blitzrage | jeebuz |
| 16:57.26 | blitzrage | that's a long time |
| 16:57.35 | blitzrage | sounds like you guys are having a way worse winter than us |
| 16:57.46 | blitzrage | freezing rain et al -- we've barely had snow |
| 16:57.50 | jsmith-busy | Copied |
| 16:57.52 | blitzrage | this is only the 2nd or 3rd time I've seen it snow |
| 16:58.05 | jsmith-busy | It's nice and warm here in Abalama |
| 17:00.12 | blitzrage | I bet :) |
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| 17:26.22 | blitzrage | heh |
| 17:26.43 | blitzrage | In my fridge, I now have some V8, some eggs, and a lime, and left over alcohol, heh |
| 17:26.59 | blitzrage | I'm tempted to order one last pizza |
| 17:27.06 | jsmith-busy | Mmmn... make yourself a V-8 omelette |
| 17:27.15 | jsmith-busy | Have any salsa to go on it? |
| 17:27.24 | blitzrage | heh... I made eggs and put them into a tortilla wrap last night |
| 17:27.57 | jsmith-busy | Ah... |
| 18:31.57 | blitzrage | well... groceries arrived, so I think I'll eat something |
| 18:34.21 | blitzrage | jsmith-busy: if you happen to have that pic of Paul in the sunglasses on your desktop, could you email it to me? thx! |
| 19:19.58 | jsmith-busy | blitzrage: I thought I already sent it |
| 19:20.04 | jsmith-busy | blitzrage: Hold please... |
| 19:20.14 | blitzrage | really? don't think I got it... |
| 19:26.20 | jsmith-busy | blitzrage: I don't have them here... they're on my box at home I think. |
| 19:26.26 | jsmith-busy | Unless... |
| 19:36.04 | blitzrage | it's no biggie -- just wanted to put a pic of Paul into the wiki |
| 19:36.15 | jsmith-busy | Nope, I don't have it |
| 19:36.18 | jsmith-busy | I'll get it this weekend |
| 19:36.22 | blitzrage | np, it's all good |
| 19:38.21 | blitzrage | jsmith-busy: you know you've got a bunch of sections commented out right? do those really need to be in there? |
| 20:03.48 | blitzrage | ugh.... things are out of order in this file :( |
| 20:11.50 | jsmith-busy | blitzrage: Yes, the commented-out sections are just an example of how to link in the See Also section |
| 20:12.04 | jsmith-busy | blitzrage: (Each one just basically links to itself, which is why it's commented out) |
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| 20:13.30 | blitzrage | also contains a </para>... although I guess it doesn't seem to affect anything |
| 20:14.23 | blitzrage | did you notice that some of the applications are kinda mixed? the top half doesn't match the bottom half... |
| 20:29.00 | jsmith-busy | blitzrage: I told you that... |
| 20:29.08 | blitzrage | I missed it |
| 20:29.09 | blitzrage | it happens |
| 20:29.11 | jsmith-busy | The first half is from the old ABE docs |
| 20:29.17 | jsmith-busy | (The first 70) |
| 20:29.20 | blitzrage | no no |
| 20:29.21 | jsmith-busy | The last 160 are from 1.4 |
| 20:29.27 | blitzrage | I mean within each application |
| 20:29.38 | blitzrage | the docs don't match |
| 20:29.51 | blitzrage | You'll be talking about one app, then showing examples and such for another one |
| 20:30.23 | jsmith-busy | blitzrage: Doh! |
| 20:30.27 | jsmith-busy | blitzrage: No, I didn't notice |
| 20:30.30 | jsmith-busy | It was late last night |
| 20:30.31 | blitzrage | ya... I'm just gonna stop |
| 20:30.37 | jsmith-busy | Is it so bad I should re-build the docs? |
| 20:30.44 | blitzrage | it took me nearly 30 mins to fix 2 apps |
| 20:30.46 | blitzrage | ya -- its bad |
| 20:30.47 | jsmith-busy | What application does it start with? |
| 20:30.53 | blitzrage | the frist one |
| 20:30.57 | blitzrage | errr, 2nd |
| 20:30.58 | jsmith-busy | Is it in the first 70, or the last 160? |
| 20:31.08 | blitzrage | not sure... haven't looked at all of them... seems to be a bit random |
| 20:32.48 | blitzrage | but at the rate I was going it wasn't gonna get done this month |
| 20:33.02 | jsmith-busy | OK... |
| 20:33.05 | blitzrage | sorry :( |
| 20:33.14 | jsmith-busy | I'll take a look as soon as possible... but may not be before midnight |
| 20:33.24 | blitzrage | thats fine, I've got other things to work on |
| 20:33.33 | blitzrage | I'll get you a list of the ABE applications though |
| 20:33.39 | blitzrage | there aren't as many -- a lot of old ones were removed |
| 20:33.47 | blitzrage | (as many as standard 1.4) |
| 20:33.58 | blitzrage | only 159 total.... |
| 20:34.27 | blitzrage | is there a script I can run to pull the apps out of my ABE build? Would that be useful? |
| 20:35.01 | jsmith-busy | Sure... hold please |
| 20:39.38 | jsmith-busy | blitzrage: Reference/ast_apps.php |
| 20:39.45 | jsmith-busy | blitzrage: It's rough, but it's what I got working late last night |
| 20:39.48 | blitzrage | *thumbs up* |
| 20:40.02 | jsmith-busy | Knock yourself out! |
| 20:43.01 | jsmith-busy | blitzrage: Oh, do something like "php -q ./ast_apps.php > blah.xml" |
| 20:43.13 | blitzrage | coolio -- just installing PHP et al now |
| 20:43.20 | jsmith-busy | Rock on with your bad self... |
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| 21:03.30 | blitzrage | jsmith-busy: it worked! :) |
| 21:03.38 | blitzrage | added as Reference/applications_abe.xml |
| 21:04.05 | jsmith-busy | blitzrage: OK... cool... I'll build a PDF |
| 21:04.23 | jsmith-busy | blitzrage: Did you see whether or not that output had the wrong examples for the wrong apps? |
| 21:04.33 | blitzrage | I looked, and it seemed to be ok |
| 21:04.55 | blitzrage | I'll look again more carefully to double check |
| 21:05.54 | blitzrage | ya, seems to be ok |
| 21:08.14 | jsmith-busy | OK, so it was that crummy HTML from the old docs that caused the problems |
| 21:08.28 | jsmith-busy | Sounds like it might not be worth the trouble to try to merge those in |
| 22:00.00 | jsmith-busy | "repetitively and redundantly rewrite everything all over again" |
| 22:03.20 | blitzrage | :D |
| 22:03.30 | blitzrage | that was humorous |
| 22:10.31 | jsmith-busy | You liked that? |
| 22:10.54 | jsmith-busy | I thought it proved my point |
| 22:11.07 | blitzrage | it was subtle.... maybe no one will get it :) |
| 22:11.22 | jsmith-busy | Subtle as a chainsaw... |
| 23:17.05 | jsmith | file: Come on down! |
| 23:17.50 | file | and why would I do that? |
| 23:17.58 | file | that's like asking me to sacrifice myself to the wolves! |
| 23:20.35 | file | but for you... |
| 23:23.13 | file | alas |
| 23:23.19 | file | Mr. Smith was not there |